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= May 31 =

== How to write article about a software ==

Hello,
I'm trying to a write an article about a software product in Wikipedia (this product is a popular product and need to have a page here to provide more information) but can not find a proper link/page for that.
Would you please tell me where can I write that article?
(I understand it needs to be approved by experienced editors)

Looking forward to hear from you.

Regards,
Fernando  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fernandobrown81|Fernandobrown81]] ([[User talk:Fernandobrown81|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fernandobrown81|contribs]]) 00:23, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hello, Fernando. Please read [[WP:Your first article]]. As it says there, the first thing you must do is to find several places where [[WP:IRS|reliable sources, independent of the subject]], have written substantial text about it: if there are no such sources, then it is not [[WP:GNG|notable]] (in the special sense we use that word in Wikipedia), and may not have an article. I am guessing that your first language is not English ("software" is a [[mass noun]] in English): that does not mean that you may not write an article in the English Wikipedia, but you will probably want to get somebody to review the English. Finally, the product does not ''need'' an article here: if your purpose here is to [[WP:PROMOTION|promote]] the product, then please don't write one.  --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 07:29, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== School named after Crispus Attucks ==
you left out a school name after Crispus Attucks. located in Ponca city, Oklahoma I went to elementary school there in 1962.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.22.147.163|99.22.147.163]] ([[User talk:99.22.147.163|talk]]) 00:41, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:It appears to be no more, either closed or renamed. [[Ponca City, Oklahoma#Education]] and the [http://ponca.ok.schoolwebpages.com/education/components/scrapbook/default.php?sectionid=1 official school district site] list seven elementary schools, none named after Attucks. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 02:10, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Commas in large South Asian numbers ==

[[MOS:NUM]] indicates ([[MOS:NUM#Delimiting (grouping of digits)|here]]) that the digits in large numbers should be delimited, usually by inserting a comma every three digits, or, in scientific articles, by using {{tl|gaps}} or {{tl|val}} to insert thin spaces.  But [[MOS:TIES]] indicates that in articles with a strong tie to a particular English-speaking country, the WP style should follow the local variety of English.  This is spelled out specifically with respect to dates at [[WP:STRONGNAT]], but no mention is made of formatting large numbers.

The question here is related to articles about the Subcontinent, where in the local style, large numbers have commas inserted to indicate thousands, [[lakh]]s and [[crore]]s, thus: 1,00,00,000.  With money, this problem is easily resolved by spelling out lakh or crore, as Rs 12 lakh (for Rs 12,00,000) or Rs 5 crore (for Rs 5,00,00,000).  But what about population?  Should the population of Indian cities be punctuated with commas for thousands and millions or with commas for thousands and lakhs? [[User:YBG|YBG]] ([[User talk:YBG|talk]]) 00:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:[[MOS:NUM]] already has mention of this. I did a {{keypress|Ctrl|F}} browser search on "crore" to find it in a second. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

::Yes, [[WP:NUMERAL]] says:
::*Sometimes, the [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English|variety of English]] used in an article may call for the use of a numbering system other than the Western thousands-based system. For example, the [[South Asian numbering system]] is conventionally used in [[South Asian English]]. In those situations, link the first spelled-out instance of each quantity (e.g. <code><nowiki>[[crore]]</nowiki></code>, which yields [[crore]]). (If no instances are spelled out, provide a note after the first instance directing the reader to the article about the numbering system.) Also, provide a conversion to Western numbers for the first instance of each quantity, and provide conversions for subsequent instances if they do not overwhelm the content of the article. For example, write {{xt|three [[crore]] (thirty million)}}. Similarly, if you write {{xt|3,00,00,000}}, also write {{xt|(30,000,000)}} or {{xt|{{gaps|(30|000|000)}}}}. (Note that the variety of English does not uniquely determine the method of numbering in an article. Other considerations, such as conventions used in mathematics, science and engineering, may also apply, and the choice and order of formats and conversions is a matter of editorial discretion and consensus.)
::This seems to me to suggest that if a non-Western form is used, the first instance must include the Western form in parenthesis.  But in tables and infoboxes, this seems unreasonable.  I think that there should be a clearer statement of style.  Perhaps I should inquire at [[WP:India]], [[WP:Pakistan]], &c.  Perhaps there is already a convention established in these local projects that merely needs to be stated in the MOS.  Or perhaps those projects should try to reach a consensus on this topic.  [[User:YBG|YBG]] ([[User talk:YBG|talk]]) 23:18, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Yep, inquiring at the relevant WikiProjects is a good idea. '''[[User:Theopolisme|<span style="color:#232323;">Theopolisme</span>]] <span style="color:#4F4F4F;">([[User talk:Theopolisme|<span style="color:#4F4F4F;">talk</span>]])</span>''' 23:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==

I put userboxes on my user page, including {{Template:User TooManyUserboxes}}.  Now the userboxes are sitting on top of my text about on-line communities.  I tried putting in a section break, and it didn't help.  Is there any sort of markup that I can use to push the text down so that the userboxes are not eclipsing the text?    [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 01:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:I'm no expert, but using templates Userboxtop and Userboxbottom above and below your userboxes sticks them in a single column on the right. In the preview, the column extended beyond your text though. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 02:03, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:I added {{Tl|Clear}} at the end of your userboxes and it seems to have fixed the issue. '''[[User:The Anonymouse|The&nbsp;Anonymouse]]'''&nbsp;([[User talk:The Anonymouse|talk]]) 02:31, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Thank you.   [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 12:10, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Dead link that should work ==

The 5th reference in [[William Castle]] should work, but doesn't. [http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article/253053|0/Directed-By-William-Castle.html The article] is where the reference specifies, but when I click on it, I don't get there. Any ideas? [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 01:58, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:{{done}} Thanks. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 02:37, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Why does it look like the angelscript entry was deleted for wrong reasons? ==

I say this because, how can a scripting language wikipedia entry violate copyright, along with the other reasons, it is a language that deserves a entry as it is somewhat used.

Considering I wanted to know more about the language I was going to be coding in, it was for some reason not on wikipedia, and it looks like the past entry was deleted whilas it exists in foreign languages. HMMM?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:184.14.169.149|184.14.169.149]] ([[User talk:184.14.169.149|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/184.14.169.149|contribs]]) 08:49, 31 May 2013‎ (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

: I don't know why you say it was deleted for the wrong reasons.  The deletion log is at http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=Angelscript

: The copyright violation was recorded at [[Wikipedia:Suspected_copyright_violations/2012-08-15]], and the article was discussed at [[User talk:Amatulic/Archives/2012#Angelscript]].  A userspace draft exists at [[User:Saejox/AngelScript]], so you may want to discuss with the user the prospects of getting the article into a fit state for publishing (though the user concerned doesn't seem to have edited since then). - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 09:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

::The article exists at [[AngelScript]] though FWIW I am not convinced about notability.--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 14:03, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Is there a template for... ==

Is there currently a template that displays the month and the year, for example May 2013 or a ~ shortcut? Thanks, [[User:Jcc|jcc]] ([[User talk:Jcc#top|tea and biscuits]]) 13:36, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:Yes, <nowiki>{{currentdate}}</nowiki> should do it. — '''''[[User:Richard BB|<span style="color:#8000FF;">Richard</span>]] [[User talk:Richard BB|<span style="color:#8000FF;">BB</span>]]''''' 13:59, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks Richard. However, after trying it out in the sandbox, it displays something like this 14:13, Friday May 31, 2013 (UTC). Then I discovered that typing in <nowiki>{{currentdate|June 2006}}</nowiki> does the trick. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, [[User:Jcc|jcc]] ([[User talk:Jcc#top|tea and biscuits]]) 14:16, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:::For just a month and year, remaining true as of whenever you look at it, you can use the [[Help:Magic words|magic words]]: <nowiki>{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}</nowiki>--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 14:23, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== copy a logo.svg file from German to English wikipedia ==

I would like to copy a logo.svg file available in the German wikipedia to the English wikipedia in order to use it in the corresponding English article. How do I achieve this? [[User:Lavoulte|Lavoulte]] ([[User talk:Lavoulte|talk]]) 13:40, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:Assuming it is actually on De Wikipedia and not on Commons, download it from De Wikipedia to your computer then upload it to En Wikipedia, using [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&uselang=en-nonfree-logo&wpUploadDescription={{logo%20fur%0A%3C!--%20REQUIRED%20--%3E%0A+|Article+++++++++++=+%0A+|Use+++++++++++++++=+Org%0A%3C!--%20HIGHLY%20RECOMMENDED%20--%3E%0A+|Source++++++++++++=+%0A%3C!--%20ADDITIONAL%20INFORMATION%20--%3E%0A+|Used%20for++++++++++=+%0A+|Owner+++++++++++++=+%0A+|Website+++++++++++=+%0A+|History+++++++++++=+%0A+|Commentary++++++++=+%0A%3C!--%20OVERRIDE%20FIELDS%20--%3E%0A+|Description+++++++=+%0A+|Portion+++++++++++=+%0A+|Low_resolution++++=+%0A+|Purpose+++++++++++=+%0A+|Replaceability++++=+%0A+|other_information+=+%0A}}%0A{{non-free%20logo}} this form], making sure you complete as many of the parameters in the {{tl|logo fur}} template as possible.--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 14:09, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

::Thanks, that was helpful. [[User:Lavoulte|Lavoulte]] ([[User talk:Lavoulte|talk]]) 20:42, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

==What the f***==

What the f*** is wrong with this. [[La Guaira Bank]]

Why is html not working

Why are my "<head>" tags not working!

:Hi there. We don't actually use HTML, we use wiki markup. For more information, please see [[WP:MARKUP]]. Thanks. — '''''[[User:Richard BB|<span style="color:#8000FF;">Richard</span>]] [[User talk:Richard BB|<span style="color:#8000FF;">BB</span>]]''''' 13:50, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
::We do use a subset of HTML5- see [[Help:HTML in wikitext]] for allowed markup.

:::HTML markup is typically done on pages ''other than'' articles, such as talk pages (or this page, a project page, for example). We really don't want people adding naked HTML to articles (with the possible exception of line breaks; I've seen a couple cases where that seemed unavoidable). 

:::If you can't figure out how to do something with existing wikitext markup, please tell us here, specifically, what you're trying to do, and we'll be happy to tell you how to do it IF it's appropriate. -- <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:John Broughton|John Broughton]] </span>  [[User talk:John Broughton |(♫♫)]] 20:30, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

== Ivor Ichikowitz Image == 
I have uploaded an image of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ivor_Ichikowitz_Portrait_Photograph.jpg Ivor Ichikowitz] and had the copyright holder email permission to WP:OTRS. I have done this in order to replace the current portrait photo on the [[Ivor Ichikowitz]] Wikipedia article. I have been informed that the image needs to be cropped in order to be used, what is the best way of me doing this? Should I reupload a cropped version? Thanks [[User:Vivj2012|Vivj2012]] ([[User talk:Vivj2012|talk]]) 14:14, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

: Yes.  Use picture editing software of your choice, & upload a new version. It's not something that can be done inside Wikipedia. - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 14:23, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

::Should the cropped version be uploaded as a new separate File or should it replace the existing one? [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 14:32, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

::: I can't see any need for the existing one, so a replacement seems sensible - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 14:46, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

::::@David Biddulph, I'm sorry I'm not making this very clear. It's a question about procedure, not merely for an opinion if cropping should be done. If I take ImageABC.jpg and crop it, do I upload the cropped image to the existing File:ImageABC.jpg page or do I need to upload it to an entirely new title? Another issue is - does the photographer's permission transfer to the cropped version or must a new permission be sought? (In spite of having seven years of editing WP under my belt I'm a total noob at handling images! The OP originally came to me for help.) [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 16:11, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:::::I upload images that I crop or otherwise process as new images. The original permission should be broad enough to cover derivative works, but it's worth checking the licensing of the original image.--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 16:16, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
::::::Thanks. So we'll have to wait for OTRS to get the permission processed before editing it. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 16:37, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:::::::That's what I would do.--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 16:43, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

::::::::David & Dodger, thanks for your help with this. It looks like permission has been received by OTRS for the image. Do you want me to go ahead and reupload a cropped version of the image? [[User:Vivj2012|Vivj2012]] ([[User talk:Vivj2012|talk]]) 10:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

== Translation from French to English ==

I am trying to update the  article [[Michael Mastro]] and found some information that needs to be [[Talk:Michael_Mastro#French_media_reports|translated]]. I posted about it on the talk page but it seems no one goes there. Where on Wikipedia can I find translators? Thanks in advance, X[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 14:44, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
: Check out the project at [[WP:TRANSLATE]].  I don't know how active it is, but you might find some help there.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 15:58, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== CC NonCommercial ==

I don't understand what's stopping someone from uploading a NonCommercial-licensed (creative commons) image onto the English Wikipedia, thereby keeping it unfree and not stored on Commons. –&nbsp;<span style="color:#06266f;">Kerαu</span><span style="color:#1240AB;">noςco</span><span style="color:#4671DS;">pia</span><sup style="color:#A60000;">◁</sup><i><sub>[[User:Keraunoscopia|<span style="color:#5E1FFF;">gala</span>]][[User talk:Keraunoscopia|<span style="color:#5E1FFF;">xies</span>]]</sub></i> 16:53, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:"Non-commercial" means that it is not freely licensed and therefore can only be uploaded to Wikipedia pursuant to the [[WP:NFCC|non-free content criteria]].--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 17:19, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:A Creative Commons image must be [[WP:COMPLIC|compatibly licensed]]. Thus, if a Creative Commons image was uploaded under a NC license we would treat it no differently than any other non-free copyrighted image: it can only remain on Wikipedia if it is used under a proper claim of fair use, and our fair use requirements are [[WP:NFCC|very strict]]. (Note that if the image is described as the uploader's own work and not suitably-licensed, we don't allow that at all [even under fair use]). Images that fail to meet our requirements are tagged for deletion and deleted. There are users who spend their time making sure images meet our requirements, if they don't, they tag them with a deletion template as unsuitably licensed and related, such as: <small>{{tl|db-noncom}}, {{tl|nsd}}, {{tl|nld}}, {{tl|nsdnld}}, {{{tl|orfud}}, {{{tl|Non-free logo}}, {{{tl|rfu}}, {{{tl|db-badfairuse}}, {{{tl|rfu}} {{{tl|dfu}} and {{tl|npd}}</small> This adds the images to [[:Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as files with unacceptable licenses]] and they are subsequently reviewed by administrators and deleted.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 17:19, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

::Thanks. Is there some reason fuhgettaboutits comments were [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AHelp_desk&diff=557710961&oldid=557710903 removed]? –&nbsp;<span style="color:#06266f;">Kerαu</span><span style="color:#1240AB;">noςco</span><span style="color:#4671DS;">pia</span><sup style="color:#A60000;">◁</sup><i><sub>[[User:Keraunoscopia|<span style="color:#5E1FFF;">gala</span>]][[User talk:Keraunoscopia|<span style="color:#5E1FFF;">xies</span>]]</sub></i> 17:32, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:::I'm 100% certain that was an edit conflict issue:-) I've restored.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 17:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

::::That was probably my fault - I was getting all kinds of e/cs. Is the e/c detection malfunctioning?--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 17:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::See {{phab|13922}}.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 18:01, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Disambiguating two pages - no clear primary ==

[[Lydia Bailey]] is an article about a movie, [[Lydia Bailey (printer)]] is a biography - what is the correct hatnote to disambiguate them? [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 17:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:Move [[Lydia Bailey]] to [[Lydia Bailey (film)]] and turn the post-move redirect into a disambiguation page. Then I guess you could use {{tl|Other uses}} for the hatnote.--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 17:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:Alternatively, put an {{tl|About}} template at the top of each page.  I was under the impression that we didn't use a disambiguation page if it was just for two articles. [[User:Rojomoke|Rojomoke]] ([[User talk:Rojomoke|talk]]) 17:31, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

::Per [[WP:TWODABS]], a disambiguation page is OK when there is no primary topic.--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 17:42, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:::OK, my mistake. [[User:Rojomoke|Rojomoke]] ([[User talk:Rojomoke|talk]]) 19:22, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:If the movie is the [[WP:PTOPIC|primary topic]], however, I would keep it where it is and use <nowiki>{{this|the 1952 film|the printer|Lydia Bailey (printer)}}</nowiki> for the film article, and no hatnote for the printer (no dab page needed)--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 17:35, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Books ==

How can I delete books that I create? I read your help article suggesting that I place <nowiki>{{db-u1}}</nowiki> at the top of the page, however, I am confused how I am supposed to do that.

Further, how can I work on several books at one time? 

Thank you.

:You do just that.  You type <nowiki>{{db-u1}}</nowiki> at the top of the page, and you leave a remark in the "Edit summary" box explaining why you want it deleted.  That's all there is to it.  An administrator will be along shortly afterwards to delete the page.  --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#000099;">Jayron</span>]]'''''[[User talk:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009900;">32</span>]]''''' 18:48, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:I think that the Book Creator can only operate on one book at a time. The books you have worked on are listed at [[Special:Contributions/JProto]]. If you click one of the links there, you'll see a page [[User:JProto/Books/MCAT Prep|like this one]]. One of the links there is an option to re-open the book with the Book Creator so that you can continue to work on it. But if you want to delete a saved book, you have to ignore the Book Creator links and instead click the "Edit" link at the top. You will then be able to insert the <nowiki>{{db-u1}}</nowiki> deletion request. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 21:27, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Mary Collins Ammirato ==

I started a page which got dumped. I've tried to add references,but something isn't working.
Please help a newby.
[[User:Artisticmanatee|Artisticmanatee]] ([[User talk:Artisticmanatee|talk]]) 18:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)artisticmanatee
:Link for those who are looking to help: [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mary Collins Ammirato]].  <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
::I made some edits but I can find very little using Google books and News Archive searches and Credo.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 20:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Nothing in JSTOR, nothing in LoC. Did she always use this name? [[User:Justlettersandnumbers|Justlettersandnumbers]] ([[User talk:Justlettersandnumbers|talk]]) 20:50, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Deleted Wikipedia Page ==

Looking for some help to get this page restored: [[Travis Doucette]]

User, "Explicit" deleted my Wiki page back in January 2013, citing the following: 

00:26, 11 January 2013 Explicit (talk | contribs) deleted page Travis Doucette (Expired PROD, concern was: Only wrote a couple marginally notable songs. No non-trivial sourcing found about Doucette himself.)

I pursued this user and left him the following message on his 'Talk' page:

Hello -

I hope I am typing this in the correct space. I am new to the wiki world. I just wanted to drop a quick note first to say thanks for all your hard work on wiki maintaining a level of excellence and accuracy, specifically within the realm of music entries. A number of months ago you deleted my wiki page which had been set up (as I understand) from one of my fans. I noticed today that you cited that I had only written a few 'marginally known songs'. I think that statement could be indicative of your lack of knowledge of Christian Worship Music and the its subculture. One of the songs I wrote was a #1 on Billboard for two weeks on the Christian Inspirational charts and a handful of them are sung in thousands of churches across the world every weekend. I appreciate all that you are doing, but I just wanted to challenge you on your reasoning. Perhaps if you feel like your deletion of my page was indeed the result of being misinformed in this specific sub-culture of Christian music you can get in touch. My assumption is that there is no way to restore the page but hopefully by expressing myself, I may help prevent future deletions from happening for misinformed reasons. If there is way to restore my page, even if it's under certain conditions, that would be very helpful as the media and other Christian organizations frequently refer to it. Many of the citations supporting my biography came from media outlets and news outlets at Liberty University where I worked as Adjuct Instructor of Songwriting and Music Theory. Again, I do appreciate all your hard work and empathize with you as music tends to be a very subjective topic. I encourage you to google my name if you need to learn more about me or the career I've been fortunate enough to have so far. All the best, and thanks for reading this.

Travis (email deleted as per instructions above) wiki name: travisdoucette — Preceding unsigned comment added by Travisdoucette (talk • contribs) 19:42, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

I am yet to hear from him.  Am I at the mercy of his availability to respond to my message or is there more I can do to petition the revival of my wiki page.

I am grateful for any help.

Wiki user and donar, 

Travis  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Travisdoucette|Travisdoucette]] ([[User talk:Travisdoucette|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Travisdoucette|contribs]]) 19:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The page can be both restored or recreated. However, I suggest you wait for the article to be recreated by someone else, because if a topic is truly noteworthy, an article for the topic will inevitably exist. "Many of the citations supporting my biography came from media outlets and news outlets at Liberty University where I worked as Adjuct Instructor of Songwriting and Music Theory", unfortunately these are not enough to support the article because [[WP:PRIMARY|you were directly involved in the creation of them]]. These types of sources should only accompany non-affiliated sources. "I think that statement could be indicative of your lack of knowledge of Christian Worship Music and the its subculture", it's best that administrators do not allow their knowledge of something's notability within a certain confine bias their judgement of its notability in general.

:In short, just wait it out. Also, consider checking out [[WP:COI]]. [[User:Scarce2|Scarce2]] ([[User talk:Scarce2|talk]]) 19:53, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:I think you can get your page recreated through [[WP:REFUND]].  Be warned though, if the article doesn't meet our criteria it may be deleted again in another manner which does not allow you to undelete it at will. '''[[User:Themfromspace|<span style="color:blue;">Them</span>]][[User talk:Themfromspace|<span style="color:red;">From</span>]][[Special:Contributions/themfromspace|<span style="color:black;">Space</span>]]''' 19:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:This was ''not'' "your Wiki page".  It was an article ''about'' you.  It was deleted in routine housekeeping after beng tagged for a week as failing sufficiently to comply with our  rules on notability and reliable sources, during which time nobody challenged the tag or addressed the concerns it cited.  If you were a contributor to it, please read [[WP:BIO]] as well as [[WP:COI]].  You can follow Themfromspace!'s suggestion and request undeletion, but if successful the restored article will still be open to deletion while notability and sourcing issues remain. Take a look at [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:PERSON]], which contain the relevant notability criteria. If you satisfy one or the other of these, then you are a suitable subject for a Wikipedia article. If you don't, then you are not.  An article must assert how you satisfy the criteria, supported by links to reliable independent sources.  If you want an article about yourself here that anyone can edit (and it may not be a good idea - see our [[WP:LUC|law of unintended consequences]]) then gather together information and citations to support it.  If the article is restored via REFUND, add your information to the article's talk page and request that someone else include it in the article.  If the article is not restored, you can post your information and sources at [[WP:Articles for creation]] and let someone else write a replacement.
: Editors' personal knowledge and understanding of any subject, including subcultures, has no relevance to decisions about whether something qualifies for an article or not, or whether an existing article should be deleted or retained. What counts is whether the article clearly asserts how the subject is notable according to Wikipedia's criteria, and the quality of the published sources supporting the assertion.  Hope this helps. - [[User:Karenjc|<span style="color:red;">Ka</span>]][[User_talk:Karenjc|renjc]] 09:51, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

== Begin a new Article  ==

How do I do this?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Suzycue1234|Suzycue1234]] ([[User talk:Suzycue1234|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Suzycue1234|contribs]]) 20:18, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Look at [[WP:YFA]], it explains how to create an article.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 20:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

: {{ec}} Among the links in the Welcome message on your user talk page are [[Wikipedia:Starting an article]] and [[Wikipedia:Your first article]]. - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 20:23, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:{{ec}} There's some pretty good guidance at [[Wikipedia:Your first article]], but if I have anything to add, or rather emphasize, to the guidance there it would be to '''get your source material together first'''.  The secret to Wikipedia is source material.  Everything that "sticks" at Wikipedia does so because it is based on high quality, [[WP:RS|reliable]] and independent references.  Everything that gets deleted does so because it isn't.  It's really not more complex than that.  So if there is a topic that Wikipedia doesn't have an article about, but should, your first job should be to get your material together you will use to help you write the article first, so that when you do write it, you have good sources to back up what is being written.  It would be good to read [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] to understand why Wikipedia insists on this.  [[Wikipedia:Your first article]] is still a pretty good walk though on how to create an article from scratch too.  --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#000099;">Jayron</span>]]'''''[[User talk:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009900;">32</span>]]''''' 20:24, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Category :Pages with incorrect translation tags ==

hello. I get this message about my contribution page.it says it`s in ,,page with incorrect translation tags `` or something like that.Can you please help me ? the page is http://ro.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Inhibi%C8%9Bie_latent%C4%83&oldid=7857463 . thanks!  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Nedelea Andrei|Nedelea Andrei]] ([[User talk:Nedelea Andrei|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nedelea Andrei|contribs]]) 21:36, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I'm afraid that we can only help you with problems relating to the English Wikipedia.  The Romanian site is separately administered and run under its own rules.  You'll have to find the equivalent help facility there.  [[User:Rojomoke|Rojomoke]] ([[User talk:Rojomoke|talk]]) 21:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:Try moving the "Pagină tradusă" template from the bottom of the article onto the "talk page", [[:ro:Discuție:Inhibiție latentă]]. Disclaimer - I know no Romanian! -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 21:50, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

:Templates have their own page. It often shows documentation. A Google translation of [[:ro:Format:Pagină tradusă]] does indeed sound like the template belongs on the talk page. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:07, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

== Affliation to the individual written about ==

If it is necessary to indicate to Wikipedia my affiliation with Servando Cabrera Moreno (of whom I recently submitted an updated biography of his achievements to hopefully be approved, I have not found wherein it must be indicated to Wikipedia my affiliation to him.  For the record, Cabrera Moreno is my paternal first cousin, the son of one of my father's brothers. If the knowledge is required, I merely want to indicate the connection and reason for its submittal.  

Thank You,

User:  CMCabrera [[User:CMCabrera|CMCabrera]] ([[User talk:CMCabrera|talk]])  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 22:04, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Does the article exist in article space (main space), or is it in Articles for Creation?  If, as I assume, it is in Articles for Creation, I suggest that you add your affiliation on the talk page, and the final editor can take that into account.   [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 01:40, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

::: It looks as if the draft article currently exists as the user's user page: [[User:CMCabrera]]. It ought, perhaps, to be moved initially to a user subpage: [[User:CMCabrera/Servando Cabrera Moreno]] and then submitted through the AFC process.  - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 05:38, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

==Francis Cunningham==
I submitted an entry about the American painter Francis Cunningham (born 1931) last week and am not sure how I find out if it was accepted. How do I log on? What is my username? And how can I chack the status of that entry?

Many thanks!
Sasha Anawalt  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/207.151.95.1|207.151.95.1]] ([[User talk:207.151.95.1|talk]]) 22:28, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::It appears that you are using an IP address rather than a registered account.  There are several advantages to creating a registered account, and I suggest that you do that.   [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 01:40, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

::Your article is at [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Francis Cunningham]], but it hasn't been submitted for review. If you want to submit it, click the link in the box at the top of the article, where it says "If this submission is ready to be reviewed, click here". Your user name is [[Special:Contributions/Wanawalt|Wanawalt]]; to log in, click on "log in" at the top right corner of any Wikipedia page, then enter your user name and password on the log-in screen and click "log in". [[User:Deor|Deor]] ([[User talk:Deor|talk]]) 08:18, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Update: Since neither Wanawalt nor an IP has submitted the article for review, I've gone ahead and done so. [[User:Deor|Deor]] ([[User talk:Deor|talk]]) 11:56, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

== Southaven High School [[Southaven High School]] ==

This article is inaccurate.  This portion, has some truth however is still incorrect: Southaven High and Horn Lake High were to be replaced with the new Desoto County High facility. Ground was broken during the summer of 2005 on a plot of land directly east of the original High School. The facility was completed fall of 2006. It did not open until January 2007, to allow for a smoother student transition. The former Southaven High was transformed into Southaven Middle School, serving 6th through 8th grades. The former middle school building now houses Southaven Intermediate School, serving 3rd through 5th grades.

First of all, there is no school called DeSoto County High in the DeSoto County School District.  A new high school did open in the Desoto County School District in 2004.  It is in Southaven called DeSoto CENTRAL High.  DeSoto Central High School is several miles from Southaven High School and originally served students from Southaven, Olive Branch, and Hernando.  Southaven High School remained in the same building until 2008 when the changes to the Southaven schools mentioned were made. The new Southaven High is adjacent to the now Southaven Middle School. Horn Lake High School also exists but also has moved to a new building not far from what is now Horn Lake Middle School. 

You can verify the information I have given you by going to <ref> desotocountyschools.org </ref> to see a map of the district, which schools serve in the individual schools district, as well as a list of the schools and their webpages. I am an employee of DeSoto County Schools as well as the wife and mother of 3 graduates of Southaven High School.  My husband graduated in 1974, my son in 1980, and my daughter in 2012.  

Denise Clements
[[Special:Contributions/75.66.219.65|75.66.219.65]] ([[User talk:75.66.219.65|talk]]) 23:04, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:Edit the article with citations to the [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], or discuss on the article's talk page.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 23:32, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
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