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= January 6 =

== Page Name amon martin-preston should be changed to zero the kidd ==

the page about amon martin-preston should be chnaged to zero the kidd as it depicts his artist name better than his birth name  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Amonmartin23|Amonmartin23]] ([[User talk:Amonmartin23#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Amonmartin23|contribs]]) 01:46, 6 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*'''Note:''' The page has been moved by {{U|Futballbmo}}. [[User:Eagleash|Eagleash]] ([[User talk:Eagleash|talk]]) 04:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
:Link: [[Zero The Kidd]] <span style="color:red">—[</span>[[User:AlanM1|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:green">Alan</span><span style="color:blue">M</span><span style="color:purple">1</span>]]([[User talk:AlanM1#top|talk]])<span style="color:red">]—</span> 06:13, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== [[Yonge Street]] ==

The Hockey Hall of Fame is actually located on Front street 2 blocks east of Yonge street.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.162.159.88|108.162.159.88]] ([[User talk:108.162.159.88#top|talk]]) 03:15, 6 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hello, IP user. Our article [[Hockey Hall of Fame]] gives the address as 30 Yonge St, as does [https://www.hhof.com/htmlGeneralInfo/gi100.shtml its own website]. If you have information to the contrary, please start a discussion on the talk page [[Talk:Hockey Hall of Fame]], citing a reliably published source. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:17, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== Possible multiple copy-vios on B-class article ==

[[Diamond clarity]] has possible vios on it, but I can't tell which came first. [https://www.redmonddiamondcenter.com/diamond-clarity first] and [https://b2b.partcommunity.com/community/knowledge/en/browse/page/9/letter/D second] page the Earwig picks up on. In the case of the first, I think they pulled from Wikipedia, in which case they may be in violation. [[User:Jerodlycett|Jerod Lycett]] ([[User talk:Jerodlycett|talk]]) 07:44, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
:{{hidden ping|Jerodlycett}}The first post is dated 2019, but our article already included this info in [[Special:Permalink/793362189|at least 2017]]. The second one includes a "This article uses material from the Wikipedia article". So this is just a case of other sites copying from us. – '''[[User:Þjarkur|Thjarkur]]''' [[User talk:Þjarkur|(talk)]] 12:11, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== Kitty Gordon ==

In the article on stage/silent film actress Kitty Gordon, it mentions she had an on-stage gun accident in Chicago with her "husband", Jack Wilson, in 1920, 
but later in her Personal Life section, you have her married to Captain Henry Beresford from 1904 - 1924.
Can someone straighten this out for me? I'm researching her career.
Thank you,
DBY  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dbaylesyeager|Dbaylesyeager]] ([[User talk:Dbaylesyeager#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dbaylesyeager|contribs]]) 08:31, 6 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{re|Dbaylesyeager}} the [[Kitty Gordon]] article, like the other 6 million articles on this Wikipedia, was written by unpaid volunteers. There are about 120,000 volunteer editors active in the last 30 days, and each of us does whatever we want to do, with no guidance or direction. You are one of us and you have equal rights and responsibilities with the rest of us. Statements in articles are supposed to be referenced to reliable sources ([[WP:RS]]), and the article has several, which you can read. I nominate you as the editor to research this. Feel free to change the article with the results of your research. Just edit the article, or if you prefer, put a note on the articles talk page reporting your research and perhaps another editor will come along and update the article. Come back ere if you need additional help. -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 17:22, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

:{{ec}} Hello, {{U|Dbaylesyeager}}. It is unlikely anybody monitoring this page has any knowledge about her: this is a page about editing Wikipedia, not about general questions. You could ask at the [[Wikipedia:Reference Desk]]: probably the "Entertainment" section.
:The source cited in the article [[Kitty Gordon]], (from the New York Times) does indeed describe Jack Wilson as "her husband and vaudeville partner." If you pick "View History", you can see all the editors who have edited the article; and could ask some of them on their User Talk pages if they have any further information (but they may not all still be active on Wikipedia).  But I suspect that if you're researching her career, you may already know more about her than anybody else here! --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:30, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
::@{{U|Dbaylesyeager}}: The section was added [[Special:Diff/324698507|in 2009]] by a user who hasn’t been active since – and it doesn’t look like there was anything else behind it than the [https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1920/06/26/97759648.pdf NYT article]. Considering there’s apparently no other source for the marriage claim, maybe it was an error on the NYT’s part (or, and this is completely speculative, perhaps a contemporary euphemism)? Cheers [[User:Torana|<span style="color:black"><big>⌘</big></span>]]&nbsp;<sub>[[User Talk:Torana|<span style="color:grey">hugarheimur</span>]]</sub> 12:27, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

== change of title  ==

I am an employee at Rutherford Health Plc who manages the information and content for the company on the world wide web. I am trying to change the article title for the following page:
[[Proton Partners International]]

The company is no longer called 'Proton Partners International' it is now 'Rutherford Health Plc' - so the article title needs changing to reflect this.
I have tried changing it to other page settings but it hasn't worked, I also can't find how to 'move the page'. Any help would be appreciated.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Nsykestherutherford2020|Nsykestherutherford2020]] ([[User talk:Nsykestherutherford2020#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nsykestherutherford2020|contribs]]) 10:49, 6 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{u|Nsykestherutherford2020}} You can visit [[WP:RM|requested moves]] to request that the article be moved- but first you will need to formally comply with the [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] and [[WP:PAID|paid editing]] policies(the latter is a Wikipedia Terms of Use requirement and mandatory).  You should also read about how [[WP:ER|to make edit requests]] as you should avoid directly editing the article about your company. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:52, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== Publishing ==

How can I speed up the process of getting [[Draft:Saltwives |my page]] published?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DakHov|DakHov]] ([[User talk:DakHov#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DakHov|contribs]]) 12:52, 6 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{u|DakHov}} There is nothing that you can do to speed things up.  As noted in the yellow box at the bottom of your page, there are over 3700 drafts awaiting review, and that it could take 3 months or more.  Reviews are conducted by volunteers, who do them in no particular order. It could be done sooner than 3 months, but it will probably take longer. Users who try to 'jump the line' don't usually succeed. You can spend the time continuing to improve the draft; I notice that you have very few independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage in your draft.  I'm also not clear on how this group meets the Wikipedia definition of [[WP:BAND|a notable musical group]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

:And, {{U|DakHov}}, if your statement on your User talk page "I'm trying to make a page for the Producers called Saltwives" means that you have some relationship with the group or their producers, then you need to study Wikipedia's policies on editing with a [[WP:conflict of interest|conflict of interest]]. Furthermore, if you are in any way paid for doing this (eg it is part of your job) then you must make the ''mandatory'' declaration of [[WP:paid editing|paid editing]]. Bear in mind too that Wikipedia may never be used for any kind of [[WP:promotion|promotion]], and that [[WP:there is no deadline|there is no deadline]]. (Incidentally your User Talk page is primarily for other editors to communicate with you. Unless you [[WP:ping|ping]] them, it is unlikely that any other editors will even see any messages you put there, unless they are looking for other reasons, as I did.) --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:42, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== New Article Publish Regards ==

I am completely new to the Wikipedia. I want to publish an article about a person who have created schools and college in my home town. What is the procedure?  
With Regards,
Azarudeen S
<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2409:4072:29F:EF45:4B32:F3D:1BFE:C2B0|2409:4072:29F:EF45:4B32:F3D:1BFE:C2B0]] ([[User talk:2409:4072:29F:EF45:4B32:F3D:1BFE:C2B0#top|talk]]) 13:12, 6 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:See [[WP:HOW]]. [[User:Wtmitchell|Wtmitchell]]  [[User talk:Wtmitchell|(talk)]] <small>(earlier ''Boracay Bill'')</small> 13:21, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== [[:Draft:Mashood Alam Malik]]==

Hi! My draft of mashood alam malik which is submitted for review in november recieved a notification on november 13 that it has been reviewed. It did recieve some changes as well. Nothing after that. Can i know what is the proceedure next. As it is neither declined nor created. Help or guide will be really appreciated. 
([[User:HinaBB|HinaBB]] ([[User talk:HinaBB|talk]]) 13:49, 6 January 2020 (UTC))
:{{u|HinaBB}} Your draft is pending review.  As the review notice indicates, it will likely be several months before it is reviewed, as there are thousands of drafts awaiting review by volunteers, who do what they can, when they can, in no particular order.  You will need to be patient.  You can use the time to continue to improve your draft, or make other edits to other articles. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:51, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

ThankYOu!!♥♥ ([[User:HinaBB|HinaBB]] ([[User talk:HinaBB|talk]]) 13:54, 6 January 2020 (UTC))
:{{ping|HinaBB}} One thing that might be causing an issue with the draft is that, although it is supposedly about the actor Mashood Alam Malik, a fair amount of the content is about the film ''The Cure'' which appears to be an upcoming production and may or may not ultimately attain [[:WP:NFILM|notability]]. There does not seem to be enough, at first glance, in respect of Malik himself to support an article. Please see [[:WP:NACTOR]] for other appropriate guidelines. Thank you. [[User:Eagleash|Eagleash]] ([[User talk:Eagleash|talk]]) 15:50, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== jak usunąć konto? ==

jak usunąć konto?  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/213.76.58.126|213.76.58.126]] ([[User talk:213.76.58.126#top|talk]]) 15:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hello, do you have a question related to using or editing Wikipedia. If so please feel free to post it here. {{please}} Thank you. [[User:Eagleash|Eagleash]] ([[User talk:Eagleash|talk]]) 15:40, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

:This is the English Wikipedia. To jest <del>anglicky</del> angielska Wikipedia. You might prefer to ask your question at [[:pl:Pomoc:Pytania nowicjuszy]]. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:47, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

:{{in lang|pl}} To jest angielska Wikipedia i na tej stronie nie odpowiadamy na pytania w innych językach (w tym w polskim). Proszę pytać w Wikipedii polskiej, na stronie [[:pl:Pomoc:Pytania nowicjuszy]]. Jeśli pytanie dotyczy konkretnie Wikipedii angielskiej, można je zadać na stronie dyskusji naszej "ambasady" [[Wikipedia talk:Local Embassy]].
: {{in lang|en}} This is an English Wikipedia and we don't answer questions in other languages (Polish among them) at this page. Please ask your questions in Polish Wikipedia at [[:pl:Pomoc:Pytania nowicjuszy]]. If the question concerns specifically English Wikipedia, please ask it at our [[Wikipedia talk:Local Embassy]] page.
: [[User:CiaPan|CiaPan]] ([[User talk:CiaPan|talk]]) 10:37, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

== [[Mansi people#References]] ==

Since I have no technical skill, why are there two random closed curly brackets at the bottom of that page? Didn't see anything in the wikitext causing it. [[User:The Blade of the Northern Lights|The Blade of the Northern Lights]] ([[User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights#top|<span style="font-family: MS Mincho; color: black;">話して下さい</span>]]) 17:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

:There were extra brackets in {{txl|Indigenous peoples of Russia}}. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#00FF00">MB</b>]] 18:02, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
::Ah, thanks. Looks better now. [[User:The Blade of the Northern Lights|The Blade of the Northern Lights]] ([[User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights#top|<span style="font-family: MS Mincho; color: black;">話して下さい</span>]]) 18:13, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== Changes to my Wikipage ==

I have discovered that major changes where made to my wiki page Robert Edwards Hunter, on October 19, 2019, without my knowledge or permission.  The note says that his is a blurb for a speakers bureau.  Not so.  I do not even have a speakers bureau.  I must ask that you revert to the version of my wiki age that I approved, and make no further changes without my aprroval  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Topoli21|Topoli21]] ([[User talk:Topoli21#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Topoli21|contribs]]) 18:05, 6 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{u|Topoli21}} It's not "your Wiki page", but a '''Wikipedia article about you'''. You have no special rights to it as the subject, you are no different than any other editor. As Wikipedia summarizes what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] state, your permission is not required to edit the article- and as long as content appears in an independent reliable source it can be in the article about you. If there is incorrect information in the article, you should make an [[WP:ER| edit request]] on the article talk page, not edit the article directly. See [[WP:OWN]] for more information. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:15, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
:If you are Robert Hunter, you should confirm your identity with Wikipedia by following the instructions at [[WP:REALNAME]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:16, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
::The article was reformatted with an infobox and proper sections in October, and the reorganization was subsequently reverted, likely by Mr. Hunter.  I restored the reedited version, and removed the maintenance tags that the revision addressed. It would be welcome if another set of eyes reviewed to ensure that nothing important was changed. And {{u|Topoli21}}, please take 331dot's advice about making an [[WP:ER| edit request]] on the article talk page. [[User:Timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 20:38, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|:Topoli21}} the subject of an article has less rights to edit the article than do other editors, not more, because the subject is supposed to follow the rules regarding conflict of interest and refrain from editing the article directly. See [[WP:COI]]. (Exception: you, and any other editor, may remove unsourced assertions about any living person from any article immediately and without discussion. See [[WP:BLP]].) -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 21:02, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== Trying to find the relevant guideline/policy article ==

Hi, can someone tell me where is that guideline or policy that says something like, in Arabic names we should always use "al" with small letter (a) except when it is at the beginning, so for example it is "Ali al-Yamani" not "Ali Al-Yamani" or "Ali Al-yamani". I want to see if I can request renaming a lot of articles titles that I see  violates this guideline or policy and I am not able to find where this policy or guideline is located but I remember that I have seen it before. Thanks in advance.--[[User:SharabSalam|SharʿabSalam▼]] ([[User talk:SharabSalam|talk]]) 19:13, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|SharabSalam}} I couldn't find a formal guideline, but there's a [[Arabic name#Indexing|section]] in the Arabic Name article, referencing the Chicago Manual of Style, which may be relevant. [[User:Timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 20:23, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks for the link. What I am talking about is in the same page but in the section called "[[Arabic name#Dynastic or family name|Dynastic or family name]]". However, this isn't a guideline or policy in naming titles of Wikipedia articles? Also the article doesn't talk about names of places or regions but only talks about family names. I feel like I have seen a policy in Wikipedia about this. Maybe it got deleted for some reason or maybe I am wrong. I will see if I can propose a guideline for naming Arabic articles with "al-".--[[User:SharabSalam|SharʿabSalam▼]] ([[User talk:SharabSalam|talk]]) 21:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
::: I know it's been discussed somewhere (by me), but I don't think we came to a solid conclusion, as it seems to have different uses and capitalizations depending on country and other factors. I'll see what I can find. <span style="color:red">—[</span>[[User:AlanM1|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:green">Alan</span><span style="color:blue">M</span><span style="color:purple">1</span>]]([[User talk:AlanM1#top|talk]])<span style="color:red">]—</span> 03:10, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
::: {{Re|SharabSalam}} Here's a start: [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Arabic/Archive 5#The the %D8%A7%D9%84 vs family %D8%A2%D9%84 issue]] and [[Talk:Al-Qasimi#Inconsistency in spelling]]. I'm sure there are more, and more recent, out there. <span style="color:red">—[</span>[[User:AlanM1|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:green">Alan</span><span style="color:blue">M</span><span style="color:purple">1</span>]]([[User talk:AlanM1#top|talk]])<span style="color:red">]—</span> 03:52, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

== Trying to find an acceptable image of a person ==

There seem to be many articles about which images are allowed on Wikipedia, and I'm not sure how to determine if an image is allowed or not. When I look on Google images with "labeled for reuse" there are no images which seem to meet the criteria, but on Bing images, there are many images that come up under both "Free to modify, share, and use commercially" and "public domain". ([https://www.bing.com/images/search?sp=-1&pq=peggy+siegal&sc=8-12&sk=&cvid=421F131016CA47F8A3E5B5044A744D5D&q=Peggy+Siegal&qft=+filterui:license-L2_L3&FORM=IRFLTR Peggy Siegal - Bing Images]) What should I check to make sure they meet Wikipedia's standards?
—[[User:Naddruf|<u>Naddruf</u>]] ([[User talk:Naddruf|''talk'']] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Naddruf|'''contribs''']]) 22:39, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|Naddruf}} We are required to obey the law, in this case copyright law. To use an image in a Wikipedia article, we first upload that that image to Wikimedia commons. You are free to place an image there if it has a compatible copyright license or if it is in the public domain. If you find an image on the Internet, it must be explicitly licensed with a compatable license. If it is not explicitly licensed, then by copyright law, it is not legal to copy it. I have no idea how Bing or Google make this determination, but we depend on the uploader to find the license on the web site that hosts the image before they upload it. -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 23:11, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
::{{ping|Arch dude}} Do you happen to know whether Getty Images will be acceptable? They have this license agreement: https://www.gettyimages.com/eula —[[User:Naddruf|<u>Naddruf</u>]] ([[User talk:Naddruf|''talk'']] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Naddruf|'''contribs''']]) 23:18, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
::: No. In fact, Getty Images is [[WP:F9|explicitly listed]] as an unacceptable image source in the policy for speedy deletions. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 23:21, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== Flag icons in infoboxes ==

I understood that one could hover over a flag icon and see the flag's country/entity name displayed. In the infobox of the article [[Lebanese Civil War]] there are many flags, but hovering does not identify them, and one must go into edit mode to find out what they signify. Is there a way to turn on the "hover-identify" function for this infobox? Many flags look superficially alike, and readers are not likely to learn to distinguish the flags of Sudan, UAE, Libya, South Yemen, let alone Mourabitoun or the Lebanese Communist Party.--[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 23:50, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
: {{Re|Quisqualis}} It's using {{Tl|Flagicon image}} and {{Tl|Flagdeco}} instead of {{Tl|Flagicon}} that's used at [[World War II]]. The latter links the flag to the relevant article so if you hover over it, you see a preview of the article if you have the Navigation Popups gadget enabled (or maybe there's a replacement previewer now if you're not logged in or don't enable the gadget{{Snd}} I forget). <span style="color:red">—[</span>[[User:AlanM1|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:green">Alan</span><span style="color:blue">M</span><span style="color:purple">1</span>]]([[User talk:AlanM1#top|talk]])<span style="color:red">]—</span> 09:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC)