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== IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes ==

I often edit Wikipedia movie pages, usually to add sources or detail. In the "reception" section of every article, I always see Wikipedians writing about what score the movie achieved on Rotten Tomatoes, but I never see what score the said movie received on IMDb? Why is it like this? And would I be at fault for adding an IMDb score?&nbsp;Ram P. ([[User talk:VirusesSuck44|talk]]) 22:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|VirusesSuck44|label=Ram P.}} Please do not add IMDb scores - see [[Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Film#Audience response]].  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 22:51, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|VirusesSuck44}} Welcome to Wikipedia.  Information in articles must come from reliable sources.  There is currently consensus that IMDB is not a reliable source due to being user generated content, but that Rotten Tomatoes is reliable for movie score aggregation.  So that is why articles use Rotten Tomatoes scores and not IMDB.  See [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources]] for more info on those two sources.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 22:54, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hi {{U|VirusesSuck44}}. ('''e/c''') Rotten Tomatoes' default score for a film aggregates professional published reviews, which is what we use. It also has an "audience score", i.e., unreliable, [[WP:UGC|user generated content]]. IMDb by contrast only provides audience ratings of films, and so it's essentially the equivalent of RT's audience score, which we ''don't use''. See also [[Wikipedia:Review aggregators]]. Best regards--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 22:57, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

== Who wrote this? ==

Not enough traffic on the Talk Page, so bringing it here. 

While pondering the term: "Character actor" for an article I am writing on a BLP, I happened upon this article the page: [[Character actor]] at WP and was really quite shocked at its rather "personal opinion" style of writing. It seemed more like something I would read in The New Yorker rather than an encyclopedia. Statements such as: "Others, like Sir Laurence Olivier, submerge themselves in any role they play", has nothing to do with the term "character actor" but simply the fact that Olivier was a very good actor; and (Character actors tend to play the same type of role throughout their careers) "Abe Vigoda as an aging criminal", even thought he is best remembered for the lovable detective Sgt. Fish on the TV series [[Barney Miller]] and roles such as Grandpa Vincent Ubriacco in [[Look Who's Talking]]. These statements, along with: "Some character actors are known as "chameleons" ..." which the source provided doesn't even back the claim: "Someone could be deemed a character actor but still seem the same in every role he or she pursues. Chameleon actor has more of a feel, because when they inhibit a character, they become it, blending in like a chameleon. In turn the viewer loses themselves in the actor’s performance." It's as if the editor simply made things up as they went along. Clearly a "chameleon" actor is not a character actor; they are a separate talent and art. The lede definition: "In a literal sense, all actors can be considered character actors since they all play "characters", but in the usual sense it is an actor who plays a distinctive and important supporting role" once again simply states an interpretation on a quote from an interview by actor John Jarratt: “I don’t know. I played the lead in Wolf Creek 2 recently, so what is a ‘character actor?’ If you’re always getting co-leads and cameos, I think they call those people character actors. But every part plays a character." Certainly not an authority on the craft of acting or the historical definition of the term: "character actor." 

Merriam Webster defines "Character Actor" as: "An actor who is known for playing many different and unusual characters" which immediately disqualifies nearly half of the article's claim and content: "Character actors tend to play the same type of role throughout their careers, like Harvey Keitel as tough and determined." The lede definition found online: "An actor who specializes in playing eccentric or unusual people rather than leading roles", which contradicts itself throughout the article: "A character actor can also be the leading man in his films, such as Wallace Beery." Absolutely no source to back this very strong claim. And this: "While a leading actor often has physical beauty needed to play the love interest, a character actor typically does not." According to whom? and this: "A character actor's roles are often substantially different from their real-life persona." Isn't that the very definition of an actor ... period? 

I find this article to be one of the worst written at WP. It reads like a school paper; filled with subjective - often contradicting - thought, re-interpreted, inconsistent definitions, made-up content and entirely without substantial sources for an article that should be more definitive in its term and encyclopedic in its examples. [[User:Maineartists|Maineartists]] ([[User talk:Maineartists|talk]]) 22:49, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Maineartists}} You can be [[WP:BOLD|BOLD]] and improve the article yourself.  If not, you can post on the article's talk page, and then post on the WikiProject's talk pages to invite them to help.  You can also add {{tl|citation needed}} for sentences unsupported by a reference.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 22:57, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

== Article Space ==

Hi, When an article is reviwed an accepted it will go in the article space. Please could you let me know what the article space is. 
After the review is accepted will it be on public wikipedia?[[User:MasterD.D. Patel|MasterD.D. Patel]] ([[User talk:MasterD.D. Patel|talk]]) 17:44, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|MasterD.D. Patel}}, welcome to the Teahouse -- It goes into the so called [[WP:MAINSPACE]] - "The main namespace, article namespace, or mainspace is the namespace of Wikipedia that contains the encyclopedia proper—that is, where "live" Wikipedia articles reside". [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 17:56, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
::FYI - there is a lag of up to 90 days before it will show up in response to a Google or Bing search. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 18:17, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:You notice how some pages have words before a colon in page titles (like this one, '''Wikipedia''':Teahouse)? Articles don't have that. <u><small>Well, they can be part of the subject's name, but those are usually understood from context provided in the body of the article.</small></u> —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 19:27, 23 February 2021 (UTC) <small>(Addendum added 02:47, 24 February 2021 (UTC))</small>

== How do I reply directly to comments by a specific editor? ==
{{courtesy link|Draft:Tobey C. Moss}}

&nbsp;[[User:DavidJMoss|DavidJMoss]] ([[User talk:DavidJMoss|talk]]) 18:50, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

My first attempt at a page [Tobey C. Moss]‎ I made many mistakes and corrected them in a draft that I re-published in February.  I heard concern about conflict of interest. That is why I re-published the December 28th page in February to only use wording from established sources like the Getty Research Institute and the Los Angeles Times and the University of California Los Angeles(UCLA) Special Collections.  I included many inline citations from those venerable sources. And, as the son of retired 92-year-old Tobey C. Moss, I would have much preferred waiting until The Getty Research Institute posted this page, but they don't do that. I wanted to see her contribution to the art world in print, especially women artists and Latino artists and Southern California artists, available to Wikipedia users, before she dies, not 10 years afterwards. There was a concern about the word, International, as in "international art dealer", I cite her 47 contributions to the collection of the British Museum, as an example. Can you tell me how I can improve that latest version from February. [[User:DavidJMoss|DavidJMoss]] ([[User talk:DavidJMoss|talk]]) 18:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:DavidJMoss|DavidJMoss]] ([[User talk:DavidJMoss|talk]]) 18:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

{{ping|DavidJMoss}} Some suggestions:

*Create an infobox about her
*Use more citations, especially when talking about things like birth date
*Break up the article, have more sections such as "Early Life", "Career", etc. 

Hopefully this is helpful. [[User:DestinationFearFan|DestinationFearFan]] ([[User talk:DestinationFearFan|talk]]) 19:54, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:Is the article about her or the gallery? If her, then remove a lot of what the gallery does? [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 19:58, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:I renamed it [[Draft:Tobey C. Moss Gallery]], as that was the correct subject, and did some work on it. I left some advice on User:DavidJMoss's talk page. [[User:Possibly|Possibly]] ([[User talk:Possibly|talk]]) 21:12, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|DavidJMoss}} Based on the renaming, I took the liberty of updating the template on your user page to reflect the new name.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 22:26, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

I really appreciate all your suggestions, and the updates done by [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] that removed Tobey's early life and focused on the gallery's history and importance to the Southern California art world, and I went further and took out the remaining line that had citation needed. I tried very hard to take out any conflict of interest bias and stick to what was written elsewhere. Please let me know if there is anything more I can do. I do not think we need to add an infobox about her, as one editor suggested. Thanks you all. [[User:DavidJMoss|DavidJMoss]] ([[User talk:DavidJMoss|talk]]) 00:23, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|DavidJMoss}} {{diff2|1008555033|My only edit}} was to move the big yellow template to the top of the page.  I believe {{U|Possibly}} was the kind editor who made the updates you mentioned.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 02:48, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== Help needed with finding a free image ==

Hi, I've been on WP for a while now and I've always had troubles finding free images. Recently, I worked extensively with article [[Yu Wensheng]], and I hope to one day nominate it for GA status. Can someone please help me find a photo of him? Thanks.&nbsp;[[User:Thomas Meng|Thomas Meng]] ([[User talk:Thomas Meng|talk]]) 03:40, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Thomas Meng}} I added some parameters to the WikiProjects on [[Talk:Yu Wensheng]] indicating your desire for a photo.  There are some links in the {{tl|WikiProject Biography}} banner that might be helpful.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 04:55, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== Potential Subarticles ==

Hi there. I have been working on [[2008 Beijing Wushu Tournament]] over the last few days. As you can see, it has sections that follow a similar format to an article about a sport at a multi-sport event: some background info, schedule, qualification, medal table, and medal results, but in addition to this, there are sections on detailed results and match brackets for each specific event. As a result, the single page article is quite long as the medal tables are redundant with the detailed results. I was also going to create a list of participating nations and numbers of athletes sent, but that would also be somewhat redundant with the amount of information already listed on that single page. Do you think it is a good idea to create subarticles for each event? Thank you.&nbsp;[[User:Yinglong999|Yinglong999]] ([[User talk:Yinglong999|talk]]) 03:54, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Yinglong999}} I wonder if you are going to have enough independent references for each subarticle.  I suggest you ask your question on the article talk page: [[Talk:2008 Beijing Wushu Tournament]].  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 05:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== What is this? ==

I reverted an edit which is [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Takapuna_Grammar_School&type=revision&diff=1008613390&oldid=1008613253 this] because it was vandalsim, but after some time the editor ( user:Hellothisismyaccount10) who made that edit leaved a [[User_talk:ExclusiveEditor#Hey|message]] on my talkpage stating his edit was right and he also wrote on his [[User talk:Hellothisismyaccount10|talkpage]] that I have did wrong edit. What does he mean by so?&nbsp;[[User:ExclusiveEditor|ExclusiveEditor]] ([[User talk:ExclusiveEditor|talk]]) 06:11, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Looks like the ususal student vandalism. I have checked Google Maps and [https://takapuna.school.nz/ the official website], both use your version. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 06:29, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

What is student Vandalism? and what should I do now? --[[User:ExclusiveEditor|ExclusiveEditor]] ([[User talk:ExclusiveEditor|talk]]) 06:52, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|ExclusiveEditor}} Basically a student vandalizing their school's Wikipedia article; it happens quite often. If they do it again, feel free to revert, but you don't have to do anything right now. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 07:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== Deleting something ==

I posted the following at Frederick Crews' Talk page, and no one has replied; I hope that it's ok to try here. I did not mention at the Talk page that the deletion I want to make, which is little better than gibberish, is at Frederick Crews' request.

In the first paragraph under the heading "Literary criticism," I would like to change the comma after "(1904)" to a period and delete the rest of the sentence, which reads, "analyzing the function and tensions within a system of manners, the interaction between an individual's ethics and their reflection within the values of a community.[12][14]."

My problem is that, when I delete it, a problem with another footnote arises. The problem, which I see when I click "Show preview," is in fn.16, concerning Kreisler, even though the footnote containing Kreisler is #3. In fn.16, I get the message: "Cite warning: <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tag with name Kreisler 1999 cannot be previewed because it is defined outside the current section or not defined in this article at all."

I don't know what that means. This problem occurred even when, as an experiment, I deleted the text after "(1904)" but retained footnotes 12 and 14. I don't need to understand what is going on; I would just be grateful if someone would make the change I describe in the first paragraph of this comment. Thank you.Maurice Magnus (talk) 20:41, 21 February 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Maurice Magnus|Maurice Magnus]] ([[User talk:Maurice Magnus|talk]]) 00:48, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

{{courtesy link|Talk:Frederick_Crews}}
: {{re|Maurice Magnus}} Welcome to Wikipedia.  Are you connected in some way to Frederick Crews?  If so, it is better that you not edit articles about him.  If you want to proceed, then please read [[Wikipedia:Plain_and_simple_conflict_of_interest_guide]], there are disclosures you need to make.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 01:05, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::I know Frederick Crews only slightly, through a mutual friend; we've met in person only once, about 25 years ago, and we exchange emails every couple of years. I happened to looked at his Wikipedia entry the other day and emailed him a comment about it. When I told him that I was a Wikipedia editor, he asked me to delete the phrase I quoted above, because, as I said, it is little better than gibberish. I have no conflict of interest; he's not paying me for this trivial favor. I just don't have the editing skills to deal with the "Cite warning" that comes up.<!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Maurice Magnus|Maurice Magnus]] ([[User talk:Maurice Magnus#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Maurice Magnus|contribs]]) 10:18, 24 February 2021 (UTC)</span>
:::{{ping|Maurice Magnus}} I assume you're using "edit section": the "warning" really just means that the reference is defined outside of the section you're editing and reused inside the section, so you can't see a preview. Since all the references are not broken, you could safely delete that sentence with no problem. That being said, the fact that Crews told you to delete that sentence is a conflict of interest. Wikipedia does not care about what the subject wants to say about itself. The only reason to remove a sentence is if it were not in those sources, but the Carlson reference does seem to support it. You could elaborate more on Crews' works, but be prepared to provide secondary sources to back up your claims. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 02:18, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ec}} Hi {{u|Maurice Magnus}}. The problem you're having most likely has to do with the fact that the same citation is being used to support multiple statements in the article (see [[:WP:REFNAME]] for more on this); so, the edit you want to make is either removing a citation from the article where it was defined or the defined citation is located in some other section of the article than the one you're trying to edit. Look at [[:Frederick Crews#cite_note-Fuchs2006-3]] for an example of what I'm referring to above. That particular source is cited eight times (indicated by the letters "a" to "h"). Each letter is linked to the location in the article where the source is cited in which the letter "a" represents the first time the source is cited and "h" the last time the source is cited. The fully formated citation is usually (but not always) found (i.e. "defined") where the source is first cited; so, if you remove that citation, then the error "not defined in this article at all" will show for the other times the source is cited. Similarly, if you edit a section that doesn't contain the fully defined citation, then the software won't show the citation because it's "not defined" in the section you're editing.{{pb}} As for whether you should be the one to make the edit on behalf of Crews, I suggest you follow the advice given in [[:WP:COIADVICE]] or [[:WP:PSCOI#Steps for engagement]]. If you feel you can make the edit yourself, then you might want to clarify your reasons for doing in an [[:WP:ES|edit summary]] and on the article's talk page. If another editor reverts the changes you make, you should then try to resolve things per [[:WP:DR]]. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 02:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{u|Maurice Magnus}}, the sentence in question is cited to two, presumably [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable, sources]] who are other scholars discussing Crews' work: one of them is hyperlinked, and to my limited understanding of critical terminology (''much'' of which seems like gibberish to me) appears to corroborate the passage. Since a basic principle of Wikipedia is to summarise what ''other'' sources say about a subject, ''not'' what the subject wants said about themselves, Crews' own opinion is not our concern. The only reason for deleting the passage would be if it does not, in fact, accurately summarise (''without'' [[Wikipedia:Synthesis|synthesis]]) what the sources say. If yet further sources (''un''connected with Crews) assert something contradictory, then that too should be added (cited to those further sources) to show that different interpretations exist. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/2.125.75.168|2.125.75.168]] ([[User talk:2.125.75.168|talk]]) 08:27, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== Regarding Page Deletion ==

I would like to tell you that, My wikipedia page content has been deleted, someone mention me that, article is not allowed on this page. I am creating  a famous person in West Bengal, India. I created Atanu Raychaudhuri Wiki Page, he is one of the most successful film presenter & advocate in Kolkata High Court, Wb, India. I want to ask you why my page has been deleted and how to recover this.&nbsp;[[User:Souvik4296|Souvik4296]] ([[User talk:Souvik4296|talk]]) 10:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:I've responded to you at the help desk, please only seek help in one location. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:48, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

==Semi protection of [[Khajwa, Chhatarpur]]==
I'm [[D7869]], can I remove the semi protection article from [[Khajwa, Chhatarpur]] will you allow me.&nbsp;[[User:D7869|D7869]] ([[User talk:D7869|talk]]) 10:18, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{yo|D7869}} welcome to the Teahouse. The article is currently semi-protected due to a high level of disruptive edits from new and unregistered users. Your account is autoconfirmed so you should be able to edit the article yourself, but please take care not to add any unsourced or poorly sourced information. Regards, --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 10:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::(I'm D7869), Thanks for responce  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:D7869|D7869]] ([[User talk:D7869#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/D7869|contribs]]) 10:53, 24 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Draft Declines ==

Hi, I have made a draft for a character and it was declined as it 'was not notible enought', however there are many other characters of the sort, so i was wondering why mine was declined. I added references aswell. Thanks&nbsp;[[User:MasterD.D. Patel|MasterD.D. Patel]] ([[User talk:MasterD.D. Patel|talk]]) 09:35, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|MasterD.D. Patel}}, you need to add more reliable sources to the article. Fandom is user-generated content, and is not considered reliable. The fact that pages about other characters exist is not a valid rationale for trying to get the page you wrote published. <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 09:55, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I will add more reliable sources, thank you [[User:MasterD.D. Patel|MasterD.D. Patel]] ([[User talk:MasterD.D. Patel|talk]]) 09:57, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Welcome back to the Teahouse, {{u|MasterD.D. Patel}}. [[Draft:Beru Lars]] doesn't currently cite any reliable sources that are independent of the subject, which is a fundamental requirement to demonstrate notability. See [[WP:GOLDENRULE]] for a simple explanation of what's required. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 10:08, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I have added a reliable source, how many reliable sources are needed?. I have added the official source from the star wars database. [[User:MasterD.D. Patel|MasterD.D. Patel]] ([[User talk:MasterD.D. Patel|talk]]) 10:14, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{U|MasterD.D. Patel}}, the Star wars site is reliable for things relating to Star Wars, but is it is not [[WP:IS|independent]], which is equally important for establishing notability. Wikipedia basically doesn't care what Lucasfilm say about the character, only what people who have no connection with them have chosen to publish. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:40, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== Use of Alternate Language Wikimedia files ==

Hello!

How do I insert a file from another wikimedia language page? Some images are absent from the English wikimedia category page, but are present in another language. For instance, in English it's easy as the files start with "File:". If I link the image name from Italian or Russian, for example, I place this [[Файл:Пётр Петрович Глебов.jpeg]] and no image is inserted (page does not exist). Thanks in advance, I am trying to flesh out a page for a Russian film which is becoming popular in English~~&nbsp;[[User:Knightoften|Knightoften]] ([[User talk:Knightoften|talk]]) 01:54, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Knightoften}} Well, there are two ways. First, you could just upload it to the English Wikimedia Commons. Also, you could save it to your Hard Drive, and click on the image icon when editing the page. Click on upload, and choose the file. This *should* work. </br> <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 8px red; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b>[[User:EGL1234|<span style="color:orange">EGL</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:EGL1234|<span style="color: red">1234</span>]]</sup></b></span> 04:26, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|EGL1234}} Thank you for your reply! I decided to just upload it on the English commons, but I'll keep in mind that I can upload something directly as well. Cheers! [[User:Knightoften|Knightoften]] ([[User talk:Knightoften|talk]])

::I'd like to add a couple of caveats to {{U|EGL1234}}'s reply. ''If'' the file is freely licensed as required by Commons, then you can upload it to Commons. (There is no "English Wikimedia Commons"). I believe there is a tool to help with this, but I don't recall whether it's in Commons itself or in English Wikipedia - if the latter, it may not be available in other editions. 
::If the file does not meet Commons' requirements, then it ''may '' be possible to upload it to English Wikipedia, but ''only'' if it and its use meet ''all'' the [[WP:Non-free Content Criteria|Non-free Content Criteria]]. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:01, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|ColinFine}} I assumed there were different wikimedia sites per language, since like I said, [[Файл:Пётр Петрович Глебов.jpeg]] exists on the Russian page in a category, but on the English page the category is blank (and also the file itself does nothing here in English when I try to link it). I am not well versed in these matters, so I thank you for your response as well. My belief was since it exists in one place, why not another? [[User:Knightoften|Knightoften]] ([[User talk:Knightoften|talk]]) 16:08, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
::::{{U|Knightoften}}, there is one [[WP:Wikimedia Commons|Wikimedia Commons]], and the files stored in it may each have descriptions in many languages. Commons accepts only freely licensed material - either [[WP:public domain|public domain]], or material that has been explicitly released by its own on a suitable licence. In addition, each edition of Wikipedia may allow files to be uploaded, but their policies vary: I believe the de-wiki does not accept non-free material at all. English Wikipedia does, but only if it meets all of the [[WP:NFCC]]. I don't know ru-wiki's policy, but I suspect that it is less restrictive than en-wiki: if so, a file that is accepted at ru-wiki may or may not be accepted at en-wiki. When you link to a file, it will pick up that file from the local Wikipedia if it exists, and if not, from Commons: it will not pick up the file from any other Wikipedia.  --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 18:57, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|ColinFine}} Ah I see now! I've been around for 7 months, but most of my edits are from the last 2 months, so it takes some getting used to! [[User:Knightoften|Knightoften]] ([[User talk:Knightoften|talk]]) 12:49, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::Hi {{u|Knightoften}}. I'm afraid that the screenshot you uploaded to Commons is likely going to need to be deleted per [[:c:Commons:Screenshots]], unless you can verify that either (1) you [[:c:COM:OTRS#Licensing images: when do I contact OTRS?|hold the copyright]] of the film ''[[:And Quiet Flows the Don (1958 film)]]'' or (2) the copyright holder of the film has given you their [[:c:COM:OTRS#If you are NOT the copyright holder|consent]] to upload the screenshot to Commons. So, if unable to provide evidence of either of those two things, I think it would be best for you to follow the instructions given in [[:c:Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion#G7]] and request that the file be speedily deleted. It's OK if you just made a mistake, but you might want to carefully read through [[:c:Commons:Licensing]] before trying to upload anymore files to Commons for reference. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 12:45, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Marchjuly}} I am not well versed in these matters, so I thank you for your response as well. I had read them, but my belief was that since it exists in one place, why not another? This is why I reached out in the first place. What I will do is as [[user:EGL1234]] secondarily suggested, and upload it directly without using Wikimedia Commons, and then ask for it to be speedily deleted from the Commons. [[User:Knightoften|Knightoften]] ([[User talk:Knightoften|talk]]) 16:13, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Knightoften}} While I appreciate that you uploaded the file in good faith, as {{u|ColinFine}} explained above, each language Wikipedia project has its own rules and policies when it comes to the image use; so, what they do at Russian Wikipedia has no impact on English Wikipedia. [[:WP:NFCC|Wikipedia's non-free content use policy]] is quite strict as explained [[:WP:NFC#Background|here]] and it is this policy which needs to be satisfied. Since I think [[:WP:JUSTONE|the file's non-free use currently doesn't satisfy that policy]], I've tagged it for speedy deletion; if you disagree with this assessment, please follow the instructions given in the deletion template I added to the file's page or in the notification template I added to your user talk page. Finally, while I think {{u|EGL1234}} answer to your question was somewhat helpful in explaining some technical aspects about uploading a file, their answer didn't touch on the [[:WP:COPY#Guidelines for images and other media files|copyright aspects]] of doing so, which is something that is much more important per [[:WP:IUP#COPYRIGHT]]. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 22:16, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Marchjuly}} Thank you for your additional responses. I would have preferred it if you didn't tag it for speedy deletion since now I have to scramble to ensure everything within a short period of time; I marked the commons image for speedy deletion myself as you suggested, but here I think I have a case. I do think that it's non-free use satisfies the policy; perhaps I wasn't thorough enough in my reasoning which I listed on the image page. Most of all my edits have been in the last two months, so I haven't been doing this for very long, so thank you for bearing with me. It is slightly disconcerning that the deletion windows are narrower than even on the Commons page, only 2 days to contest a deletion assessment, my my. I will try to do as you instructed, leaving a (Di-replaceable fair use disputed|<your reason>), and filling it out. The original justification posted to the Russian wikipedia was the same as that required by the English, but perhaps I missed writing something out additionally or didn't write it in the correct place. Please bear with me. Cheers! [[User:Knightoften|Knightoften]] ([[User talk:Knightoften|talk]]) 12:47, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== Define a inappropriate discussion for the relava topic ==

I what is a inappropriate discussion&nbsp;[[User:3DPrintingTimPostma|3DPrintingTimPostma]] ([[User talk:3DPrintingTimPostma|talk]]) 11:37, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|3DPrintingTimPostma}}, welcome to the Teahouse - out of context your question is not responsable. To what kind of discussion are you referring? [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 11:40, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::<small>{{U|CommanderWaterford}}: please note that in English "responsible" (note the spelling) does not mean "capable of being answered". Your reply is likely to be misunderstood by English speakers who do not know French or Spanish.--[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)</small>

The context is Wikipedia is not a message board <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:3DPrintingTimPostma|3DPrintingTimPostma]] ([[User talk:3DPrintingTimPostma#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/3DPrintingTimPostma|contribs]]) 11:57, 24 February 2021 (UTC)</span>

asking to help a friend [[User:3DPrintingTimPostma|3DPrintingTimPostma]] ([[User talk:3DPrintingTimPostma|talk]]) 11:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC) 
:I looked at some of your editing history. Appears that the issue is that on Talk pages of articles, you have been adding your own personal observations on the topic, hence relevant to the topic but not appropriate due to policy of Wikipedia Talk pages. Talk pages are not a forum for editors to exchange information with each other. Instead, content is supposed to be specifically for disputes about content in the article. I hope this explanation makes sense. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 13:13, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== 3rr and counter-vandalism ==

Sorry for asking (I'm fairly new to the counter-vandalism side of Wikipedia and don't want to get myself into any hot water), but if an editor insists on repeat obvious and blatant  vandalism of a page, does the 3rr apply to me when reverting back to an accepted version of the page? Should I stop reverting at 3rd edit and allow someone else to revert (if anyone notices) or is it ok to continue reverting? Obviously, I will have left warnings on the user page and possibly reported to ARV. thank you for your time :) [[User:Tommi1986|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Tommi1986</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tommi1986|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 12:19, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Tommi1986}} 3RR does not apply to reverting obvious vandalism, see [[WP:3RRNO]] for the list of exceptions to the rule. [[User:Iffy|Iffy]]★[[User Talk:Iffy|Chat]] -- 12:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::Thank you {{ping|Iffy}} [[User:Tommi1986|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Tommi1986</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tommi1986|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 12:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|Tommi1986}} Yes, apart from with obvious vandalism. You should just report it to an admin [http://Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring here]. But remeber to put the tag subst:An3-notice on the person you are reporting's talk page. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 8px red; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b>[[User:EGL1234|<span style="color:orange">EGL</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:EGL1234|<span style="color: red">1234</span>]]</sup></b></span> 12:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Looks like you handled it properly. An IP address vandalized the same article eleven times in a two hour period (!!). You and other editors reverted all edits. You posted progressive vandalism warnings on the IPs Talk page. And then you filed the Admin report. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 13:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

:Thank you {{ping|David notMD}}. Good to know I'm doing things right 😃. [[User:Tommi1986|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Tommi1986</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tommi1986|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 13:28, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== How do I know? ==

If I find an editor with username violating username policy then how do I get to know that the user has already changed his name or he does not know about it?&nbsp;[[User:ExclusiveEditor|ExclusiveEditor]] ([[User talk:ExclusiveEditor|talk]]) 15:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|ExclusiveEditor}} You could look at the user page and user talk page to see if they've been notified or blocked.  If notified, you could look at the user's contributions to see if they're still editing after being notified.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 15:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== What happens if a review is inactive? ==

I am currently reviewing a GA-article but the nominator last edited on February 20, 2021. What happens if the nominator continues to remain inactive? If they remain inactive by the end of February, do I then mark the review as a failing grade? --[[User:AlabamaFan101|AlabamaFan101]] ([[User talk:AlabamaFan101|talk]]) 00:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:AlabamaFan101|AlabamaFan101]] ([[User talk:AlabamaFan101|talk]]) 00:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hi {{ul|AlabamaFan101}}, I'm a little concerned about you doing GA reviews, as (unless you've had prior accounts) you are a very new editor and are unlikely to be familiar with a lot of writing requirements and norms here. Usually GARs are done by editors who have gone through the process themselves and are quite familiar with the process. In regards to the [[Saquon Barkley]] review, that appears to be a bit of a drive-by nomination by another (relatively) inexperienced editor who has only made 9 edits to the page. A quick read by me found a number of issues that I would have flagged in a GAR and which you may not be familiar enough with yet to bring up. I would perhaps hold off on further reviews until you're more familiar with Wikipedia's manual of style and sourcing requirements. [[User:Alyo|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Alyo</span>]] ''([[User talk:Alyo|<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>]]·[[Special:Contributions/Alyo|<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>]])'' 00:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ec}} Hi {{u|AlabamaFan101}}. Since articles aren't really [[:WP:OWN]]ed by any one particular contributor, I don't see why it would matter that the editor who nominated the article for a GA review is no longer around if the article otherwise meets the standards for GA status. You might want to ask about this at [[:WT:GAN]] since that's where you're going to find other GA reviewers who probably can help clarify what needs to be done in a case like this. Finally, just a personal observation: your account is only about a week old, but perhaps you've been editing for much longer than that. While I don't think that means you cannot carry out a GA-review of an article per [[:WP:GAI#Reviewing]], I think that GA reviewers are generally expected to have a proven track record when it comes to article creation, even perhaps a history of creating GA articles themselves. The fact that you're asking a question like this at the Teahouse might be seen as not a good sign for someone reviewing articles GA status. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 01:01, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::You asked earlier if your doing GA reviews would speed the process of getting reviewers for articles you nominated for GA. The answer is still "No."  [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 01:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::: Mea culpa.  I may have been the one to suggest the editor do GA reviews, since there is a large backlog.  I should have been more careful with that comment.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 01:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::::Actually, bamafan volunteered to take up GA reviewing - which is great - because the backlog is huge. I am just hoping that bamafan understands all the criteria to consider. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 01:19, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::Hi [[User:Alyo|Alyo]] and [[User:David notMD|David notMD]], I have two articles that are waiting for review (and yes, I will be patient waiting). I am familiar with the GA-criteria. I am aware that articles aren't owned by people. I apologize for asking anything like this at the teahouse. Is there anyway I can withdraw from the [[Saquon Barkley]] review and let someone else review it instead? Also, [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] you did suggested that I would take up a GA reviewing. I eventually took one but I'm not going to continue with anymore reviews regardless of what happens with the Saquan Barkley review. --[[User:AlabamaFan101|AlabamaFan101]] ([[User talk:AlabamaFan101|talk]]) 01:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::{{ping|AlabamaFan101}} You don't need to apologize for asking for assistance at the Teahouse. If what I posted above gave you that impression, then my apologies to you. I was just trying to say in a clumsy sort of way is that GA status is a fairly substanital upgrade in article status when it comes to article [[:WP:ASSESSMENT]]s; so, I'd imagine that such reviews are not really a good way for new or newish editors to try and establish themselves as an editor since they might not be familiar with the process or other things related to Wikipedia. If you feel up to the task, then be [[:WP:BOLD]] and best of luck to you. You can always ask a more established GA reviewer to look over your reviews if you want or are stuck on something since asking for help is probably the way most editors learn how to do things on Wikipedia. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 01:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|Marchjuly}} {{re|David notMD}} {{re|Alyo}} This will be the last thing (or question6 I say on this section. I’m just going to go ahead and either put the Saquan Barkley article review on hold or withdraw from the review and ask another reviewer to review the Saquan Barkley article. In the mean time, I will either find another article to review (if necessary), find new articles to work on, or find articles to both work on and nominate it to GA-status. I am familiar with the GA-criteria. I will return to this page if I have any questions. —[[User:AlabamaFan101|AlabamaFan101]] ([[User talk:AlabamaFan101|talk]]) 05:54, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ul|AlabamaFan101}} I just want to second what Marchjuly said above--this isn't meant at all to be a personal criticism and we're very happy that you came here to ask questions. GAR is a backlogged process and working there is a perfectly admirable goal. While I would encourage you to perhaps go through the GAR process with your own article first, I don't say any of this to mean that you can't learn very quickly: there's just a lot of components that go into a well-crafted Wikipedia article, and it's unlikely you've seen them ''all'' in a week (again, assuming you haven't had a prior account). I've been editing for over a decade and the one GA I have took months to bring up to snuff--and I still wouldn't review another person's GA without having a more experienced reviewer look over my comments to see if I'd missed anything. If you would like to chat more about the Barkley page just as an exercise in article quality review, just let me know. :) [[User:Alyo|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Alyo</span>]] ''([[User talk:Alyo|<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>]]·[[Special:Contributions/Alyo|<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>]])'' 16:16, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== BFDI ==
{{FYI|created section header  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:08, 24 February 2021 (UTC)}}
why is BFDI Not an article?&nbsp;[[User:Bondstunic|Bondstunic]] ([[User talk:Bondstunic|talk]]) 16:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Bondstunic}} Either because BFDI does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "[[WP:Notability|notability]]", and/or no one has chosen to create an article.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:10, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::Courtesy link to [[Draft:BFDI (Web Series)]] which has no sources and has not yet been submitted for review. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 16:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::See [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island]] - recreation? Tagged for G4. [[User:Pahunkat|Pahunkat]] ([[User talk:Pahunkat|talk]]) 17:01, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== Deleting page ==

Hey there! I was practicing editing and accidentally published a page prematurely. I took out the text but still need to delete the page. Could someone help me? Thank you. [[Jonathan_Strauss|Here is the page]].&nbsp;[[User:Grimothy29|Grimothy29]] ([[User talk:Grimothy29|talk]]) 18:48, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Nevermind - I figured out how to move it back into the draft space! [[User:Grimothy29|Grimothy29]] ([[User talk:Grimothy29|talk]]) 18:51, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== What to do? ==

Now that i am extended confirmed and pretty experienced with Wikipedia, What should i do?&nbsp;[[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377|talk]]) 16:39, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Starman2377}} You can visit [[Wikipedia:Task Center]] for ideas, or join a [[WP:WikiProjects|WikiProject]] to collaborate with other editors with similar interests.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:42, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Would it be a good idea to become a teahouse host? [[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377|talk]]) 16:52, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Starman2377}}, if you have experience dealing with new users and providing help, then sure. You're not a new user, but see if [[User:Giraffer/TFNUTD|my guide on things to do for new users]] helps. <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 17:49, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::That's an excellent guide, {{u|Giraffer}}. Well done! [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 19:06, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{u|Cullen328}}, thank you! If you have any improvements, feel free to make them - they would be greatly appreciated. <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 19:16, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== Celliant Page edits reverted and is now incorrect and out of date ==

Hello, I recently made substantial changes to the Celliant Wikipedia page. I did this because what is currently there is badly out of date and incorrect in many instances and the creators of Celliant would like their wiki page to accurately reflect their product. My changes included numerous references and sources and notes about what I had changed. Today I learned that the edits were reverted. How can we get them changed back to the edits I made so Celliant's Wiki page can be accurate?  Here is a link to the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celliant 

thanks!&nbsp;[[User:BayekOsiris|BayekOsiris]] ([[User talk:BayekOsiris|talk]]) 01:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|BayekOsiris}} Wikipedia is an enyclopedia, not a venue for promotion.  Your edits were highly promotional, and in my opinion rightfully reverted.  If you are connected to Celliant, you need to disclose that.  See [[Wikipedia:Plain_and_simple_conflict_of_interest_guide]], and [[WP:PAID]].  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 01:11, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::@rudolphred Ok, I read about disclosing that I'm associated with Celliant. But it's not clear what I need to do differently. I registered as independent user. I also don't agree that they was 'highly promotional' edits. I worked to put only facts that were clearly backed with sources as I put at least 27 links to outside sources. What can I do to make changes to the page? To put it plainly, if this is an encyclopedia, the entry on Celliant is currently incorrect and out of date.<!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:BayekOsiris|BayekOsiris]] ([[User talk:BayekOsiris#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BayekOsiris|contribs]]) 10:21, 24 February 2021 (UTC)</span>
:::Failed ping: {{u|RudolfRed}}
:::If you are "associated with Celliant", you need to disclose your relationship: please read [[WP:COI]] and make any relevant disclosures. I also agree that your edits were highly promotional because it reads like an advertisement. In fact, you've copied text from Celliant's website, which is a [[WP:COPYVIO|copyright violation]]. Please familiarize yourself with [[WP:NPOV]] before you edit further. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 02:28, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

:Another point, {{U|BayekOsiris}}. You've been keen to add "<sup>®</sup>" or "™". Perhaps you haven't noticed that Wikipedia doesn't bother with either. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 02:52, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|BayekOsiris}} Building on {{U|Hoary}}'s note, you might be interested in [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks#General rules]].  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 02:55, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|BayekOsiris}} (cc: {{u|Hoary}} {{u|GoingBatty}} {{u|RudolfRed}}) Due to [[Celliant]] seemingly lacking [[WP:GNG|general notability]], I have nominated the article for deletion. You may be interested in the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Celliant]]. [[User:RoxySaunders|RoxySaunders]] ([[User talk:RoxySaunders|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/RoxySaunders|contribs]]) 04:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

:You can "not agree" all you want but the content you added was so profoundly promotional that it read like it was lifted directly from the company's website, where they hawk their products—and indeed ''it was''. The history has now been revision deleted to remove this copyright violation.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 05:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)


@Hoary @GoingBatty Hi all, thanks for the input. Yes language will seems similar/same as Celliant's website as there really is only a few acceptable ways to talk about the product, its benefits, and how it works in order to be accurate and for legal reasons. But I have tried to put only factual language and completely respect the wiki ethos. Really, I just want the Celliant entry to be accurate and up to date. But there may be no way around the language issue as, I said, there are only certain ways, phrases and words that are to be used in describing Celliant. Regarding external links to back up the claims, there were links to independent studies done at highly reputable institutions that are used to show Celliant's efficacy. And then any external links that were relevent to any other claim being made, which we tried to put as many as possible. Finally, apologies for the Registered mark and TM, that's my error I didn't realize that note about not needing them here, I actually the opposite idea for some reason.

Just to follow up, I'll try editing the page again soon, incorporating everything I've learned here to get it right. Thanks all!<!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:BayekOsiris|BayekOsiris]] ([[User talk:BayekOsiris#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BayekOsiris|contribs]]) </span>
:{{u|BayekOsiris}} Wikipedia cares not at all about what Hologenix wants to say about its product, Celliant. Even if you manage to paraphrase it rather than copy off the Celliant website, that will add nothing to the notability. That goes the same for the clinical trials, either published in journals (one? two?) or all the unpublished studies. WP:MEDRS applies, which means that individual clinical trials are not valid references, even if published. Only what entirely independent, reliable sources have written about the product can count. The article has been nominated for deletion. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 21:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Per your Talk page, there is now a required request that you describe your connection to the company on your User page. MAKE NO EDITS prior to being in compliance. If you are in fact compensated by Hologenix, you are prohibited from directly editing the article. Your only path is to describe changes you what to be made on the Talk page of the article. You are allowed to comment at the deletion page. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 21:27, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

==List of genealogy databases ==

[[:List of genealogy databases]]  Ifeel it is miss-labeled - it should be labeled "Repositories of databases "&nbsp;[[User:ROPulse|ROPulse]] ([[User talk:ROPulse|talk]]) 19:05, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@[[User talk:ROPulse|ROPulse]] Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Do you think it should be relabeled to "List of repositories of data bases?" [[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377|talk]]) 20:02, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|ROPulse}} The best place to post a suggestion about an article is its corresponding talk page: [[Talk:List of genealogy databases]].  In this case, be sure to explain why you think it should be labelled differently.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 21:28, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== What makes a GREAT Wikipedia page?  ==

What makes a GREAT Wikipedia page? 
Hey guys, there are obviously technicalities that make a page great but, personally, from your experiences, what ultimately makes a GREAT Wikipedia page?

Thanks!&nbsp;[[User:Nicolasnudo|Nicolasnudo]] ([[User talk:Nicolasnudo|talk]]) 21:54, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Quality and popularity (the latter confirmed by page views). A small percentage of articles are either GA or FA and get more than one million views per year. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 22:12, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Welcome to the Teahouse, {{u|Nicolasnudo}}! If you're thinking about drafting an article, I want to let you know that it's [[WP:TASKS|one of the most difficult tasks for a new editor]]. However, of course, that difficulty makes it fulfilling to do correctly, and I'm sure there would be editors (myself included) who would be willing to help out. Like [[User:David notMD|David]] noted, [[WP:FA|featured articles]] and [[WP:GA|good articles]] are what we've decided are the best Wikipedia has to offer, so finding two or three of them on a topic you're interested in and reading them could give you a better idea of what really makes a great article. If you are thinking about creating an article, we encourage you to read through [[WP:YFA|'Your first article']]. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 22:28, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

== How to add a wiki article about someone in my family. ==

I would like to publish an article about a notable member of my immediate family, but according the wiki help page, that is discouraged.  Is there a way to ask some third-party wiki expert about publishing this article instead?  I can help by gathering references and sources and such...&nbsp;[[User:Brownray8309|Brownray8309]] ([[User talk:Brownray8309|talk]]) 23:49, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Brownray8309}}. There's really no such thing as a wiki expert, but you're definitely right that creating it yourself would be discouraged. What would probably happen in this case is that we'd ask you to read [[WP:YFA|'Your first article']] (YFA) if you haven't already. If you earnestly believe your family member meets our notability criteria outlined in YFA, you could try to track down an editor who's willing to research the subject and see if they agree that they meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. That same editor or someone else could then create a draft of the article. So long as you give a [[WP:DISCLOSE|disclosure]] on your User page, you could be involved by discussing possible additions to the draft on its associated talk page. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 00:06, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::I believe that TT27's reply is not correct. [[WP:COI]] addresses how to create a draft of an article if you have a connection to the person. Therefore, disclose and use YFA to create a draft. Be as complete as possible, but do know that only what can be verified by reliable source citations can be included. Only after an article exists are people with a COI advised to request further changes on the  Talk page of the article rather than editing directly. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 00:15, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Need guidance on copied text ==

Hi all,
I have been making minor fixes to the [[William Perry]] page. I was going to try to fix the major issue it's marked for, which is lack of citations, so I went back through the page history. If you go to the page history and go to oldest, you can see
"23:13, 7 June 2004‎ Jiang talk contribs‎  32,229 bytes +31,250‎  PD text from http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/secdef_histories/bios/perry.htm"

This edit summary appears to imply that all the text was copied over from this source? The link to the source no longer works so I am unable to check; however a search of exact phrases from the text reveals [https://history.defense.gov/Multimedia/Biographies/Article-View/Article/571282/william-j-perry this link]. 

Based on this, '''it seems to me that large sections, possibly the majority, of this wikipedia article are not only unsourced but completely copied''' from the US defense government website. 

I'm not sure how to proceed from here and was hoping some more experienced editors might know what to do.&nbsp;[[User:Apathyash|Apathyash]] ([[User talk:Apathyash|talk]]) 00:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Apathyash}} You can see what the link looked like on 3 June 2004 at the [http://web.archive.org/web/20040603194052/http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/secdef_histories/bios/perry.htm Wayback Machine].  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Apathyash}} Text from the US federal government is considered public domain. See [[Wikipedia:Public_domain#US_government_works]]. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 00:38, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ganbaruby}} Thank you for linking, I didn't know. Does that mean it's okay to have copied the text into an article? I don't have much experience in this- I know on TV show pages, you can't copy over the episode descriptions, you have to write it in your own words, etc. But since it's under public domain, is Wikipedia policy fine with copying it for the article? [[User:Apathyash|Apathyash]] ([[User talk:Apathyash|talk]]) 00:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Apathyash}} It is fine to copy public domain text as long as it's edited for Wikipedia's style. I've added some more attribution notices to make this clearer. See [[Help:Adding open license text to Wikipedia]]. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 01:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Ganbaruby}} Thank you for clearing that up! Can the lack of citations banner now be removed? The rest of the article has citations, the largely un-cited section is from that government site. [[User:Apathyash|Apathyash]] ([[User talk:Apathyash|talk]]) 01:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Apathyash}} We would still like an inline citation for all those unsourced paragraphs though. The source is named <code>Historical Office William J. Perry</code>; just place that reference at the end of paragraphs that cite it. If the source doesn't cite it, try to find another source, and if you can't find one, put [[Template:citation needed]]. You'll have to go through the entire article, but then it would be safe to remove the banner. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 01:22, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::This might help you identify very similar paragraphs: [https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&oldid=1008780886&action=compare&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhistory.defense.gov%2FMultimedia%2FBiographies%2FArticle-View%2FArticle%2F571282%2Fwilliam-j-perry%2F]. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 01:24, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== File: Advertisement for Johnson Arms Inc conversion of US Military M1 Carbines to the Johnson MMJ 5.7mm Spitfire Cartridge.jpg ==

I am having issues trying to figure out if something is free or fair use.  An advertisement originally published in 1963 for a company long since defunct, whose owner passed away in 1965.  There is no copyright notice on the ad which was originally published in Shotgun News in either 1963 or 1964.  Retrieved from a website http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/carbine-ads-in-shotgun-news-19601975_topic2550.html.  The item would be used on Wikipedia to demonstrate one of the adaptations commonly advertised at that time, specifically referenced to the Wikipedia article on the "M1 carbine" heading "Commercial copies"  How could this be used to illustrate that portion of the article?&nbsp;[[User:Smaugmra|Smaugmra]] ([[User talk:Smaugmra|talk]]) 01:07, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Smaugmra}} There's two aspects to consider here. The first is the obvious one of whether or not the ad itself is free. The second is if the ''person that took the picture'' made that picture free. Unless you took those pictures or the image taker specified that the picture is under a compatible license, you cannot put it onto Wikipedia. See [[WP:IUPC]]. You haven't made it clear which image you're trying to use, but I don't think any could be used as fair use either (you'll have to have a really good reason based on [[WP:NFCCP]]). In short, when in doubt, don't use it. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 01:38, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== What is the process to become a reliable source ==

Hi we want website to become reliable source. What is the process. How much time does it take to become one.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/2405:201:3:103A:91F4:E517:49F9:468D|2405:201:3:103A:91F4:E517:49F9:468D]] ([[User talk:2405:201:3:103A:91F4:E517:49F9:468D|talk]]) 16:17, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:There is no specified time, but it most likey takes longer rather than shorter. On Wikipedia, [[WP:RS|reliable source has a specific meaning]]. for example, there most be a clear editorial oversight. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 16:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

:There is no on-WP process as such, but at places like [[WP:RSN]] editors ask and responds to questions about what sources are good for what content. There's no "one size fits all" here. It may interest you to know that WP uses '''[[nofollow]]'''. WP wants reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. If you started a website today, getting there will probably take years, ''if it ever happens''. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 17:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Get accredited subject-matter experts to write for you, and sources considered reliable to discuss yours positively. For an example of how this has happened, see [[TorrentFreak]] (its entry at [[WP:RSP]]: "Most editors consider TorrentFreak generally reliable on topics involving file sharing. '''Editors note references to the website in mainstream media.''' The source may or may not be reliable for other topics.") [[User:Elliot321|Elliot321]] ([[User_talk:Elliot321|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Elliot321|contribs]]) 02:10, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Batball (game) ==

1) I have invented a new sports. I have acquired a copyright for it. I want to upload a link for its rules in reference without compromising its copyright protection. How can I do that. 
2) I want to add a box of characteristics of my sport like you can see in other sports articles. How can I do that?
3) I want to add an intro but when I edit the page it is showing my intro after the contents box.&nbsp;[[User:Sangharsh Nirvana|Sangharsh Nirvana]] ([[User talk:Sangharsh Nirvana|talk]]) 17:38, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
: In short, creating an article like this is [[WP:TOOSOON]]. Only when the world has taken notice of your game and independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] have commented on it would it be feasible to have an article here. You are wasting your time trying to use Wikipedia to gain advertising for a new game, see [[WP:PROMOTION]], which is not allowed. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 17:56, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, [[User:Sangharsh Nirvana|Sangharsh]]. A copyright doesn't necessarily mean that a game or any other subject meets [[WP:GNG|Wikipedia's notability guidelines]]. That has to be satisfied first before anyone can make a subject about batball. Also, Wikipedia editors with a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] (COI) are strongly discouraged from editing subjects related to their conflict of interest and are expected to [[WP:DISCLOSE]] this conflict of interest on their user page. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 17:57, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I want to add an intro but when I edit the page it is showing the intro after the contents box.
I want to upload a link in reference section for a pdf of a publicly available book of which I have copy on my laptop. How can I do that.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Sangharsh Nirvana|Sangharsh Nirvana]] ([[User talk:Sangharsh Nirvana#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sangharsh Nirvana|contribs]]) 18:16, 24 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*{{u|Sangharsh Nirvana}} Wikipedia is [[WP:MADEUP|not for things that were created one day]].  Wikipedia can only have an article about your sport if others completely unaffiliated with it choose on their own to write about it.  Wikipedia isn't the place for people to tell the world about something that they created. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::Hi [[User:Sangharsh Nirvana|Sangharsh Nirvana]]. Not to pile on, but it really is in your best interests to understand this unequivocally, so you don't waste your own time: You will never, ever succeed in having an article on this game at Wikipedia at this time, nor to have any mention of it remain in any existing article. The very nature of an encyclopedia prevents it. Until the game has been substantively written about by [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable]], [[WP:SECONDARY|secondary]], [[Wikipedia:Independent sources|independent]] sources<!--Inserted with Template:RSIS-->, no use of it is warranted, anywhere. (In other words, the draft in your sandbox ''will be rejected as an article''.) Best regards--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 19:39, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::I would also point out, {{U|Sangharsh Nirvana}}, that by publishing that draft in your sandbox, you have irrevocably released it under a [[WP:CC-BY-SA|CC-BY-SA]] licence. In other words, you have already given permission (which you cannot withdraw) for anybody in the world to reuse or alter the material you have published in your sandbox, for any purpose, commercial or not, as long as they credit where they took it from. This may not be what you intended, but it is what you have done. That is exactly why the "Save changes" button was renamed "Publish changes". --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 21:31, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::::Good point, although I wonder if the OP really means "copyright". He or she is using that word, but none of the surrounding content really make sense with that form of intellectual property. (It sounds like they might be talking about a patent and/or trademark.)--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 05:07, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

==References for a Page==
How should we cite a reference that is used multiple times. For example I got a good reference that gives me the cast name. Should I cite the page at the end or in the beginning? Please leave the answer on my talk page. &nbsp;[[User:AppleAKB|AppleAKB]] ([[User talk:AppleAKB|talk]]) 05:56, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hi {{u|AppleAKB}}. There a few ways to cite the same source multiple times in an article, but the most common is probably to use the [[:WP:REFNAME]] syntax. As for the second part of your question, I'm not sure what you mean by that. Generally, it's best to place a citation as close as possible to the content it's intended to support per [[:WP:INTEGRITY]], but if it's a short sentence or paragraph and the source cited pretty much supports all the information contained therein, then it would be OK just to add the citation to the end of the sentence/paragraph. Finally, for furture reference, a Teahouse answer often benefits not only the person asking the question, but also others who might have the same or similar question. So, posts which have been responded to are archived after a few days. For this reason, Teahouse questions are going to be answered here pretty much all of the time, and not the user talk pages of those asking the questions. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 06:28, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Question ==

Are username such as fanoflionking, fanofmickeymouse856, fanofxyzcompany etc. allowed or are inappropriate?&nbsp;[[User:ExclusiveEditor|ExclusiveEditor]] ([[User talk:ExclusiveEditor|talk]]) 06:49, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|ExclusiveEditor}}  Hello.  I see no problem with those usernames, specifically or the more general "Fan of X" format. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:51, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Unable to get wikipedia page of 'Sonu Goel' published ==

Dear Wikipedia Team:
Hello from India! We sent a page of Dr. Sonu Goel who is a well known personality in public health for publication, however it was denied with the following comments:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Can any one of you help in drafting the version as desired to be published in wikipedia. I am willing to share the page with any one of you. Request you to help me in this.

Best Regards
Dr Rakesh Gupta&nbsp;[[User:Rakeshsipher|Rakeshsipher]] ([[User talk:Rakeshsipher|talk]]) 06:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Rakeshsipher}}  Hello and welcome.  Who is "we"?  Group accounts are not permitted, each account is for the exclusive use of a single individual.  If you work for or represent Dr. Goel, you will need to review [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] and [[WP:PAID|paid editing]] for information on required formal disclosures.
:The draft reads more like a resume and less like an encyclopedia article.  Wikipedia is not just for telling the world about someone and their accomplishments, it is for summarizing what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:BIO|a notable person]].  I'd suggest reading [[WP:YFA|Your First Article]] for more information. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:48, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ec}} {{courtesy link|Draft:Sonu Goel}} {{re|Rakeshsipher}} I'll give you some advice.  The most important thing is that you put in way too much info, considering the only sources are his papers and YouTube videos. It needs to be much shorter if you have no profiles of him to support his notability.  He won't pass the [[WP:GNG]] guidelines, but he might meet [[Wikipedia:Notability (academics)#Criteria]]. The guidelines for scholars and academics are different than those for non-scholars. I looked him up on Google scholar and saw his papers are cited 1227 times, but he's the co-author - never the sole author.  That affects his notability a bit, but perhaps someone more knowledgeable about the notability guidelines can comment. But start by removing 90% of this, particularly things that aren't sourced. You can save the removed text for future use if there are better sources, but it won't help you now. If you can cull the info and get down to the most important info, there then needs be some copy and syntax editing. Ref tags come after punctuation, and there are no spaces between the refs and text. This discussion can be continued on the [[Draft talk:Sonu Goel|talk page]], where I started a discussion with this text as well, and you can always ping me for additional advice.  Good luck. [[User:Timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 07:13, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== May I know... (2) ==

How to create a new article?And also how to save it as a draft?Thank you.&nbsp;[[User:Laney145|Laney145]] ([[User talk:Laney145|talk]]) 07:56, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Laney145}}, the best way to create a new article is to create a draft, and then submit it through our 'Articles for Creation' process, where an experienced editor will come and review it, and if it passes, move it to mainspace as an article. To get started, take a look at [[WP:Your first article]]. <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 08:25, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Converting Degrees to Degrees Minutes Seconds ==

Can the <nowiki> {{convert}} </nowiki> function do the above and vice versa?&nbsp;[[User:MountVic127|MountVic127]] ([[User talk:MountVic127|talk]]) 07:10, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{Re|MountVic127}} I don't see it in the documentation at {{Tlx|Convert}}, but see {{Tlx|Deg2DMS}} and {{Tlx|Decdeg}}. <span style="color:red">—[</span>[[User:AlanM1|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:green">Alan</span><span style="color:blue">M</span><span style="color:purple">1</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlanM1|talk]])<span style="color:red">]—</span> 09:09, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== May I know... ==

If a particular word is linked to a particular page,do I need to link the word to the page for the whole article or once will suffice?E.g.:the [[Ozone Layer]] page where stratosphere was repeated but only linked once.&nbsp;[[User:Laney145|Laney145]] ([[User talk:Laney145|talk]]) 07:47, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:Just once is the correct approach. [[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 08:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{Re|Laney145}} See [[WP:OVERLINK]]. (BTW, section headings should be a concise summary of the subject of your post, and should not be duplicated within a page (as your next post below did)). <span style="color:red">—[</span>[[User:AlanM1|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:green">Alan</span><span style="color:blue">M</span><span style="color:purple">1</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlanM1|talk]])<span style="color:red">]—</span> 09:13, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Question for administrator ==
<Your Question>

--[[User:Zamilgroup|Zamilgroup]] ([[User talk:Zamilgroup|talk]]) 09:26, 25 February 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Zamilgroup|Zamilgroup]] ([[User talk:Zamilgroup|talk]]) 09:26, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
: Note: duplicate, admin-help template removed.
: {{ping|Zamilgroup}} What exactly do you need help with? [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 09:32, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::Per [[User talk:Zamilgroup]] the editor is indefinitely blocked until making a name change and explaining that understands the reasons for the Sandbox Speedy deletion and will not try that (promotional content) again. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 12:43, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Status of new page ==

I´ve created a new page and I´ve submitted it to review (I think)&nbsp;[[User:Boglarka Mihaly|Boglarka Mihaly]] ([[User talk:Boglarka Mihaly|talk]]) 13:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I´ve created a new page, but since my account is new, I guess it has to be approved by the editors before final publication. Where can I see if that is the case? Where can I check the status of the review? Do I get e-mail notifications when they suggest changes?

This is the page draft in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:DB_Engineering_%26_Consulting
:{{re|Boglarka Mihaly}} Welcome to the Teahouse! As far as I can tell, you have not actually submitted your draft for review, so just add "<nowiki>{{subst:submit}}</nowiki>" to the top of the draft, and then it will be reviewed by an AfC reviewer shortly. You will get email notifications, because the AfC reviewing script automatically adds talk page messages when the reviewer leave's a comment, so as long as you've enabled those in your preferences, you should be good! [[User:JJPMaster|JJP...MASTER!]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|[talk to] JJP... master?]]</sub> 13:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:: (edit conflict) Your Draft won't be in the (long) queue for review until you submit it by adding the template <nowiki>{{subst:submit}}</nowiki> right a the top of the page. However, I can tell you that at present the draft has no chance of being accepted as virtually all the citations are to the website of the company, which makes them [[WP:PRIMARY]] sources. In order to show that the company is [[WP:NCORP|notable]], you need several [[WP:RS|secondary, reliable]] sources where third-parties have discussed the company in detail and done so independently of any information from press releases or interviews. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 13:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

::Hello, {{U|Boglarka Mihaly}}. Remember that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]]. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== What is Easy Talkback ==

What is easy talkback in TWINKLE?&nbsp;[[User:ExclusiveEditor|ExclusiveEditor]] ([[User talk:ExclusiveEditor|talk]]) 14:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|ExclusiveEditor}}, it lets an editor know that you have responded to them on another page. This is useful for editors who have turned off ping notifications, but should be made aware of something. <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 16:30, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|ExclusiveEditor}}, I think what you're referring to is [[Wikipedia:Twinkle/doc#TB_(talkback)]], which is just a way to leave talkback notifications on others talk pages more easily. [[User:WelpThatWorked|WelpThatWorked]] ([[User talk:WelpThatWorked|talk]]) 16:39, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== uploading right ==

how can i upload on my page?&nbsp;[[User:Ryhym bancey|Ryhym bancey]] ([[User talk:Ryhym bancey|talk]]) 16:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, {{U|Ryhym bancey}}, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. I'm not sure quite what you are asking, but I suspect that, like many people, you have a misunderstanding about what Wikipedia is, and how to use it. You have put some material about yourself on your user page - that is acceptable, but the principal purpose of your user page is to share information about you and your interests ''as a Wikipedia editor''. Please do not attempt to turn your user page into an article about you. In fact, please do not attempt to use Wikipedia to write about yourself: [[WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY|writing about yourself]] is '''strongly''' discouraged here, and [[WP:an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing|an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing]]. If you meet Wikipedia's criteria for [[WP:notability|notability]] - roughly, that several people who have no connection to you have chosen to write about you in places like major newspapers, or books from major publishers - then there can be an article about you. You are strongly discouraged from writing it yourself, or getting somebody to write it for you; and if one is written, it will not belong to you, you will not control the contents, and it may end up saying things that you don't want said. Wikipedia is not a place to promote yourself or your activities. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== New Entry? ==

I am interested in creating a new entry for a nonprofit that I work with. We're hoping it can be a place for obvious information about the organization but also a place where references and resources about the organization can be collected for use by researchers, etc. 

How do I create a new entry?&nbsp;[[User:Mamaochio|Mamaochio]] ([[User talk:Mamaochio|talk]]) 18:06, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Mamaochio}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.  I'm afraid that you have a common misconception about what Wikipedia is.  Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a place for organizations to tell the world about themselves.  As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia summarizes what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about an organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable organization]].  Wikipedia is not interested in what an organization wants to say about itself, only in what others completely unaffiliated with the organization say about it.  Most people in your position have great difficulty writing in such a manner- you need to forget everything you know about your organization and only write based on the content of independent sources.  If you nevertheless want to attempt to write such an article, you should review [[WP:YFA|Your First Article]] and create a draft using [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]].  If you just want to tell the world about your organization, you should use social media, your own website, or some other [[WP:OUT|alternative outlet]] where that is permitted.
:As you work for the organization, you are required to comply with the [[WP:PAID|paid editing policy]] and declare that status.  You should also review [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:22, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== URL's and Citations ==

&nbsp;[[User:Brozovera|Brozovera]] ([[User talk:Brozovera|talk]]) 17:20, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
How do add titles to URL's ?--[[User:Brozovera|Brozovera]] ([[User talk:Brozovera|talk]]) 17:20, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Brozovera}}, and welcome to the Teahouse! There are a lot of ways to create a citation with a URL and a title, but the easiest is in visual editing mode. When you go to the top of the page, there's an icon named 'Cite'. If you click it and select 'Cite web' (you can also select 'Cite news', 'Cite journal', or 'Cite book' if those are more applicable), then you can place the URL in the 'URL' box and the title in the 'Title' box. There are other fields for other useful information about the citation, such as when the sourced was published it, when you accessed it, etc. Hope this helps! <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 17:43, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hi {{u|Brozovera}}, welcome to the Teahouse - a look at [[Help:Referencing for beginners]] and [[Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide#Adding a new reference|Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User_guide#Adding_a_new_reference]] might also be helpful.[[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 21:02, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Pending Edits ==

Hello, when I made an edit to a page (Steve Young) it was reverted, but instead of saying on the page history "Reverted 1 edit by BeanieFan11" it said "Reverted 1 pending edit by BeanieFan11". The page did say edits by unregistered and new users would be pending, but I've been here since November and already have Extended Confirmed and even Autopatrolled. Why do the edits I make to those pages need to be reviewed? Thanks.&nbsp;[[User:BeanieFan11|BeanieFan11]] ([[User talk:BeanieFan11|talk]]) 23:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|BeanieFan11}} I don't really know. There's a testing page at [[Wikipedia:Pending changes/Testing/1]]. Could you make an edit and tell me what the page history looks like? [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 00:24, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::@[[User:Ganbaruby|Ganbaruby]] I made an edit on the test page. On the page history there was the normal white color surrounding the edit. But when I revert an edit there is a light blue color surrounding it and at the end it says "[automatically accepted]". And, when I make an edit to the page (Including other pages with pending changes), instead of saying "Publish changes", it says "Submit changes". Am I still considered a "New User". Thanks. [[User:BeanieFan11|BeanieFan11]] ([[User talk:BeanieFan11|talk]]) 16:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:::This might be related: [[WP:VPT#Pending Changes again]]. — [[User:Pelagic|Pelagic]] (&nbsp;[[User talk:Pelagic|messages]]&nbsp;) – (08:06 Fri 26, AEDT) 21:06, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:::<small>Oops, forgot ping @[[User:BeanieFan11|BeanieFan11]]. —</small> [[User:Pelagic|Pelagic]] (&nbsp;[[User talk:Pelagic|messages]]&nbsp;) – (08:07 Fri 26, AEDT) 21:07, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Lica ==

There exists three footballers:
*[[Lico (footballer, born 1951)]]
*[[Lico (footballer, born 1974)]]
*[[Lico (footballer, born 1984)]]
there also exists:
*[[Lico]] redirected to the 1974 footballer
*[[Lico (footballer)]] redirected to the 1984 footballer
I created the above (apolologies) can someone fix?[[User:GrahamHardy|GrahamHardy]] ([[User talk:GrahamHardy|talk]]) 20:02, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|GrahamHardy}}, I feel like these names would do better with their real names, although I'm not sure. <span style="text-shadow:red 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em">[[User:Bop34|βӪᑸᙥӴ]] • [[User talk:Bop34|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bop34|Contribs]]</span> 20:09, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|GrahamHardy}} sure thing, I'll create an appropriate disambiguation page. [[User:Elliot321|Elliot321]] ([[User_talk:Elliot321|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Elliot321|contribs]]) 20:09, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::I've created an appropriate disambiguation page at [[Lico]], as well as merged what was previously at [[Lico (disambiguation)]]. [[User:Elliot321|Elliot321]] ([[User_talk:Elliot321|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Elliot321|contribs]]) 20:14, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:::I added the real names. [[User:Timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 21:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

"Three footballers exist:"

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== Naomi Biden ==
So why is naomi biden not having a page&nbsp;[[User:KANFSAND|KANFSAND]] ([[User talk:KANFSAND|talk]]) 17:47, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|KANFSAND}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.  As Naomi Biden was not alive for very long, unfortunately, there is likely not enough information for an entire article about her.  She is mentioned in her father's article([[Joe Biden]]). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::There was just now a flurry of activity to restore an older article, but it was a stub.  Her name redirects to [[Family of Joe Biden#Naomi Biden]] which I think makes sense due to her short life. [[User:Timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 19:51, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:::On the other hand, we have an article about [[Patrick Bouvier Kennedy]], who was only two days old when he died, and one about [[Edward Baker Lincoln]], who was three years old when he died. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 22:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Latest edits by Mvcg66b3r ==

Hey guys, can you check [[User:Mvcg66b3r|Mvcg66b3r's]] latest edits, He has been removing PSIP from Broadcast stations' channels column in infoboxes and stuff lately without edit summaries. So, is anyone sure about his latest contributions?, because Virtual channels could still use PSIP.&nbsp;[[User:LooneyTraceYT|LooneyTraceYT]] ([[User talk:LooneyTraceYT|talk]]) 21:44, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

: Here's what [[User:Sammi Brie|Sammi Brie]] had to say on her talk page: "Oh, one more thing! "PSIP" is only extant in ATSC 1.0, so while I'm already an evangelist for dropping (PSIP) from these infoboxes, it's probably even better to do with stations involved in an ATSC 3.0 arrangement. FYI, ATSC 3.0 permits services to have major channel numbers that are three digits, and per a perusal of SiliconDust's forums, most ATSC 3.0 test stations do this by simulcasting channel 7.1 on 107.1 and so on." [[User:Mvcg66b3r|Mvcg66b3r]] ([[User talk:Mvcg66b3r|talk]]) 22:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:: {{ping|LooneyTraceYT}} Yep! This and also, in my view, (PSIP) is extraneous information to include in an infobox. It's like "Elevators: 6 (tractor)" or, worse, "Elevators: 4 (lifts)" (because this style propagated to countries not using ATSC, you'd get "Virtual: 1 (LCN)" which is redundant). When in doubt, ask yourself about [[MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE]]. [[User:Sammi Brie|<span style="color:#f06292">Sammi Brie</span>]] (she/her • [[User talk:Sammi Brie|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sammi Brie|c]]) 23:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Submit? ==

First time that I've submitted anything.  WikiHow says to submit a draft to click submit in the AfC header.  I don't see that header.  What am I doing wrong?&nbsp;[[User:Malicorneus|Malicorneus]] ([[User talk:Malicorneus|talk]]) 22:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Malicorneus}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I have added the tag to allow you to submit the draft, however, I would not do so yet, as it would likely be rejected. The draft reads as an essay of [[WP:OR|original research]]. It also only has two sources; multiple independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] are needed. Please see [[WP:YFA|Your First Article]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 22:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Malicorneus}}, I assume that you are talking about [[Draft:The Five Orders of Ignorance]]. That is not written in the style of an encyclopedia. We never start articles with a proverb. Articles should begin with a clear, straightforward description of the topic. In addition to the policy forbidding original research, you should familiarize yourself with our other core content policies, [[WP:V|Verifiability]] and the [[WP:NPOV|Neutral point of view]]. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 23:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

== Grizzled newbie ==

Greetings, wikiworld. I'm a tragically experienced professional editor (writer when coerced) dipping a pinky toe into these waters. I've completed the tutorial, created a funky, fictional page, and read much of the supplemental material. Seeking to build my wikifolio (is that a thing?) and simply asking for advice on getting started. Any/all thoughts, suggestions, hard advice, greatly appreciated.

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: Hi {{u|Danceswithedits}}, cool username! As an editor, you may be interested in joining the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors|Guild of Copy Editors]] and freeing Wikipedia pages from poor phrasing and bad grammar. On the other hand, perhaps you're sick of editing and would like to try something else - the [[Wikipedia:Task Center|Wikipedia Task Center]] is a great way to find ways to help out. Finally, the thing that drives Wikipedia is love - so if there's something you're passionate about, go find articles or WikiProjects on that subject and start improving them! One etiquette thing - sign your posts on talk pages like this by putting four tildes in a row (~, like that, plus three more). Wikipedia will automatically replace them with your name and a timestamp. Happy editing! [[User:Ganesha811|Ganesha811]] ([[User talk:Ganesha811|talk]]) 22:43, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the excellent reply. After nearly 3 decades editing, doubtful I'll get sick of editing. I'll look into your recommendations asap. Thanks again![[User:Danceswithedits|Danceswithedits]] ([[User talk:Danceswithedits|talk]]) 23:03, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{U|Danceswithedits}}, there's masses of writing that's waffly or sycophantic. For a quick way to find plenty, try googling {{DarkRed|"at the tender age" site:en.wikipedia.org}}. An article that perpetrates this silliness is very likely to have a lot more bad writing. You can helpfully (and perhaps enjoyably) clean up some of these articles, but you're likely to find that some are so utterly promotional (their subjects people of such minor notability) that they should just be deleted. Don't yet propose them for deletion; instead, make a note of their titles, so when you're more experienced and have a better idea of what you should do about them, you'll be able to find them. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 23:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you as well. Very familiar with that sort of silliness from other venues. Can't imagine I'll propose deletions for the time being, but thank you for the note taking recommendation. Made my first wiki edit on an Ivory Soap section. Good, clean fun!  [[User:Danceswithedits|Danceswithedits]] ([[User talk:Danceswithedits|talk]]) 23:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|Danceswithedits}} Greetings, and welcome.  In a similar vein, if I may: My sister is an admin who has done a lot of work around articles about cities and towns and places which are barely places.  Her pet peeve word in these articles is "nestled"--"Smallville, East Dakota, is an unincorporated town nestled in the eastern Insignificant Valley"....as opposed to it being, say, plunked down hard? (eyeroll)  In any case, there's a lot of rules and guidelines to keep in mind around here, but as long as you're acting in good faith you'll do just fine.  Happy editing!  --[[User:Finngall|<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b>]] [[User Talk:Finngall|<sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk</sup>]] 01:31, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

==Article makeover==
Hi, I am new here, so hello to everybody :o)
Would anybody has some time to check and authorize upload for an makeover I wrote for an article?
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask....&nbsp;[[User:Wikigetsme123|Wikigetsme123]] ([[User talk:Wikigetsme123|talk]]) 08:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Wikigetsme123}} If you're referring to what's in your [[User:Wikigetsme123/sandbox|sandbox]], it currently reads like an essay instead of an encyclopedia article, especially the "conclusion" section which no quality Wikipedia article should have. Please also read [[WP:FRINGE]] and base your article on more [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 08:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Wikigetsme123}} There is already an article called [[Gympie Pyramid]].  You can make improvements directly to the article or make suggestions at the article's talk page: [[Talk:Gympie Pyramid]].  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 14:56, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::Hi thank you, the article that is at Gympie pyramid as very poor, based only on assumptions people made over the decades, and written from a collection of news paper articles, which I inspected in copies at the library.So instead of adding 80% I created a new one, which includes the main article. Everything what I wrote can be easel y sourced and I included the links. I delete the 'conclusion'. I read and watched nearly everything to that pyramid and have been on site, made photos. So everything is based in facts. Can I upload and we see from there? [[User:Wikigetsme123|Wikigetsme123]] ([[User talk:Wikigetsme123|talk]]) 04:52, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::I already advised someone to delete the articles photo, because it was showing a hill nearby, not the pyramid. Also I found two web links dead in the article and they were deleted. When I deleted them, my actions were reversed. so as I said, the article is a disgrace but nobody bothered for years. Now there is me honestly trying to upgrade it, and I experience only rejections.
::I understand that several semi profs here fight daily for consistency and high standards, but you ave to let new editors be a bit, and don't stop them at their first move. There is not much to discuss about the old article.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Wikigetsme123|Wikigetsme123]] ([[User talk:Wikigetsme123#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Wikigetsme123|contribs]]) 07:20, 25 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::Hi {{u|Wikigetsme123}}. You appear to be discussing ways to improve the article on the article's talk page with another editor; so, my suggestion to you would be to continue to do so since that's one of the ways articles are improved over time. Generally, Wikipedia encourages to [[:WP:PRESERVE]] existing content whenever possible; lots of articles are [[:WP:IMPERFECT]] and can be improved in some way, but sometimes the process can be a bit slow and time consuming. Wikipedia does encourage us to be [[:WP:BOLD]] in our editing and fix things we feel need fixing, but sometimes we can be too bold and try to do too much at once. Since Wikipedia is a collaborative editing project, we sometimes have to slow down and be [[:WP:CAUTIOUS]] by seeking [[:WP:CONSENSUS]] and involving others. Having an edit you make reverted can be certainly be frustrating, but it's something that happens to us all and is something that is part of the Wikipedia process; so, try not to take it personally siince most editors are [[:WP:HERE]] trying to improve things just as you are. If you're reverted and the reason isn't clear, then try and seek clarification from the editor who reverted you. Wikipedia has quite a lot of [[:WP:POLICY|policies and guidelines]] that article content is expected to comply with and even really experienced editors aren't familiar with them all.{{pb}}Some other things you might not be aware of when it comes to Wikipedia. Wikipedia article content is really only intended to reflect what [[:WP:RS|reliable sources]] have stated about subject; there's lots of information that's true, but [[:WP:VNT|Wikipedia is more interested in what can be verified]]. So, if you're able to track down reliable sources about the pyramid, then such content possibly can be added to the article. As long as you don't [[:WP:SYN|synthesize]] what you find or [[:WP:NOR|try and interpret it yourself]], it will probably OK to add to the article. If anyone disagrees with the changes you make and reverts you, try and address their concerns through article talk page discussion per [[:Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]]. As for photos or other images of the pyramid, please take a look at [[:Wikipedia:Image use policy]] for more details. You might also want to take a look at [[:c:Commons:Licensing]] and [[:Wikipedia:Copyright#Guidelines for images and other media files]]. The easiest photos to use will be ones that you yourself have taken since those will be ones that you own the copyright on. It's not impossible to upload photos, etc. taken/created by others, but it can be tricky because copyright laws vary from country to country and in some cases the [[:WP:PERMISSION|copyright holder's consent]] may need to be obtained and formally verified. Since the pyramid is located in New Zealand, you might want to take a look at [[:c:Commons:Copyright rules by territory/New Zealand]] for some general information on New Zealand's copyright laws. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 08:15, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::::Thanks Marchjuly for the detailed explanation. That's the thing, I don't have the time to become a fully grown editor, I see an article that is causing damage in a tricky time, as the pyramid gets demolished in a highway project, people get misinformed or discouraged when finding this as first row in google, and Wiki and those responsible accepting that article over years should act quickly in this case. The article should not have been accepted, as it shows a collection of unfounded assumptions, same for the photo which was false, now deleted. And its suspected, I got told, that at least one editor has interests in the site and keeping that article this way. And now I try to change it and I get all the head wind. Ok, will try and post changes, which are actually just additions, into the pyramid talk page. Looking forward to more picky comments in stead of help. But thanks for explaining the process a bit more. [[User:Wikigetsme123|Wikigetsme123]] ([[User talk:Wikigetsme123|talk]]) 23:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::Hi again {{u|Wikigetsme123}} Wikipedia tends to move much more slowly than the real world, partly because all editors are [[:WP:VOLUNTEERS]] and partly because that's how it's been set up to work. See [[:WP:NODEADLINES]], [[:WP:NOTNEWS]], and [[:WP:RECENTISM]] for more on this. If there are factual errors in the article due that can be verified through citations to reliable sources, then those can and should be corrected. However, editors who create articles aren't required to maintain and verify that the content they created or added is still accurate as of today because no article is [[:WP:OWN|owned or is the responsibility of any one particular editor or group of editors]]. That is why Wikipedia wants us to be [[:WP:BOLD]] and that is by being bold that most articles are maintained or kept up to date. So, if you think changes should be made to the article, then be BOLD and [[:WP:ES|explain why the edits comply with relevant policies and guidelines]] when making the edit. If you do that, the chance of your edits being compeletely reverted will go way down.{{pb}}After looking at the [[:H:PH|page history]] for [[:Gympie Pyramid]], it seems you made only two edits ([[:Special:diff/Wikigetsme123/1006468716|this]] and [[:Special:diff/Wikigetsme123/1006471448|this]]) to the article. Your first edited replaced an existing category with a [[:MOS:CATORDER|non-existent category]] and also replaced an existing external link with some links to [[:WP:YOUTUBE|YouTube videos]]; your second edit changed a [[:MOS:HEAD|section heading]] in a way that was not really in accordance with [[:MOS:SECTIONCAPS]] or perhaps contexutally relevant. None of changes you made were explained and they weren't really clear improvements; moreover, the YouTube links might possibly be [[:WP:COPYLINK|copyright violations]] or otherwise problematic per [[:WP:ELNO]] and thus require further assessment. Another editor who seems to be more familiar with these types of things saw the changes you made, reverted you, explained why they did so [[:Special:diff/Nickm57/1006503499|here]] and then asked you to discuss things on the article talk page. This is an approach that is quite consistent with [[:Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle]] and not ususual at all; it had nothing to do with who made the edits, but rather the other editor's concern over the suitability of the edits. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 02:12, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== Can Univision be semi protected due to a lot of vandalism on the page. ==

Can Univision be semi protected due to a lot of vandalism on the page.&nbsp;[[User:ItsJustdancefan|ItsJustdancefan]] ([[User talk:ItsJustdancefan|talk]]) 02:34, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hi {{u|ItsJustdancefan}}. The place to request such a thing is [[:WP:RPP]]. If you're talking about [[:Univision]], that I'm not sure I would classify the recent edits made as [[:WP:VAN|vandalism]] as explained  [[:WP:VAN#NOT|here]]; the edits might not be appropriate, but they do seem to be being made in good faith by someone who genuinely believes they are improvements. If you feel the edits aren't improvements, then perhaps it owuld be better for you to follow [[:WP:BRD]] instead of requesting page protection. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 02:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== I started a GAN and did something I probably shouldn't have done, is this OK? ==

The GAN nomination instructions page says:
<blockquote>Save the page. A bot will update the nomination on the GA nominations page to indicate that the article is being reviewed, and will use  {{t|GANotice}} to let the nominator know that the article is being reviewed.</blockquote>
I, um, updated the nomination page myself, I didn't read it carefully. Is this OK? If it's not, what can I do?<br>Also, is my username appropriate? I haven't been blocked ''yet'', but you never know. (Or rather, ''I'' never know...)&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Avenir;">[[User:MEisSCAMMER|MEisSCAMMER]]<sup>[[User talk:MEisSCAMMER|(talk)]]</sup><sub style='position: relative; left: -3em; font-size:.5em;'>Hello!</sub></span> 01:02, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
: Hi {{u|MEisSCAMMER}}. Try asking about the GAN stuff at [[:WT:GAN]] since that's where you're going to find GA reviewers who might be able to answer your question. As for you username, maybe you should consider changing it if you're not sure whether it's appropriate per [[:WP:IU]] or [[:WP:BADNAME]]. Only you know why you chose that particular username, but maybe you should rethink your choice [[:WP:DISRUPTNAME|if you only picked it to try and troll others]]. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 04:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== Demonstrating Notability with External News Sources ==

I recently submitted an article draft for a orchestra in my local area. I had only worked on the rough details of the article before hitting submit (thinking that it would take several months before a reviewer actually got around to reviewing the article) and expecting to add more to in the mean time. That being said, the reviewer came back in less than a day to decline the article due to a lack of demonstrated notability and lacking external sources. 

I think I have fixed those problems now, but was hoping to get some additional guidance before submitting the article for a second review (not wanting to waste their time to just get declined again). The article in question is [[Draft:Mankato_Symphony_Orchestra]]&nbsp;[[User:Shhmatt|Shhmatt]] ([[User talk:Shhmatt|talk]]) 23:45, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Shhmatt}} You may want to read [[Wikipedia:Avoid mission statements]].  The lead states that they are "well known" for their performances, while reference #4 calls them "Mankato's best kept secret" - which is it?  Also, the external sources seem to be more like press releases than independent coverage.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:46, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
::Perhaps, like so many phenomena, they're [[Churnalism|known to some people ("famous")]] for being [[Churnalism|called a "best kept secret"]]. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 02:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
::From a cursory look, some of the sources do look decent - not taking a strong stance but this looks marginally notable. [[User:Elliot321|Elliot321]] ([[User_talk:Elliot321|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Elliot321|contribs]]) 04:11, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Shhmatt}} just an FYI, I've tried to clean-up the content of the article a bit. If you'd like, I can work with you while you continue to write it and publish it for you when it's satisfactory. [[User:Elliot321|Elliot321]] ([[User_talk:Elliot321|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Elliot321|contribs]]) 04:16, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|Elliot321}} I would very much appreciate that (I don't know what the best way to collaborate on an article is, is that just using the talk portion of a draft page?). Writing these kinds of articles is not necessarily my forte, but I do know lot of people that can help me find sources for the MSO so I felt like I had a good chance of having a go at it. In terms of just notoriety it felt like based on the other SW Minnesota music ensembles that do have pages on Wikipedia, that the MSO would have a similar level of notoriety. I usually hear the MSO mentioned in the same contexts as the [[Mankato_Area_Youth_Symphony_Orchestra]], [[Govenaires_Drum_and_Bugle_Corps]], and [[Minnesota_State_University_Marching_Band]] - so it seemed weird that MSO wasn't also part of that list. [[User:Shhmatt|Shhmatt]] ([[User talk:Shhmatt|talk]]) 04:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|Shhmatt}} yeah, the talk page is generally the right place to collaborate on articles. An article like [[Mankato Area Youth Symphony Orchestra]] is kinda iffy - and someone might nominate it for deletion if more sources aren't found (the standards for notability used to be less strict). I do think the article you've created is notable, but more sources are always good, to improve coverage (obviously, more detail is better, but we generally avoid using groups' own statements for most things, as they are [[WP:SPS|self-published sources]]). [[User:Elliot321|Elliot321]] ([[User_talk:Elliot321|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Elliot321|contribs]]) 04:40, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== Question on sources ==

what if you dont find any relevant sources that can back up some  information that has nit been cited? Could I switch the information to fit my relevant sources ? [[User:Santanavictianny|Santanavictianny]] ([[User talk:Santanavictianny|talk]]) 06:26, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

what if you dont find any relavent sources that can back up some information without citation? Could I switch the information to fit my relavent sources ?
[[User:Santanavictianny|Santanavictianny]] ([[User talk:Santanavictianny|talk]]) 06:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

: Hi {{u|Santanavictianny}}. You have given any real specific details in your question (e.g. an article name); so, it's a bit hard to give you a specific answer. Please take a look at [[:WP:UNSOURCED]]  for more details, but sometimes it might be OK to simply add a template like {{tl|citation needed}} instead of simply removing the unsourced content; it's not necessarily wrong to remove unsourced content, but perhaps it's not always necessary to do so either particularly if it seems reasonable that a source could be find to support the unsourced content. In many cases, it may depend upon the the nature of the unsourced content. If it's a serious claim that might have [[:WP:REALWORLD]] implications (particularly [[:WP:BLPSOURCES|about a living person]]), then removal might be the best thing; however, if it's more of a minor claim unlikely to have a major impact if left in the article, then perhaps adding a [[:WP:TMC|maintenance template]] is OK as a temproary measure to give others a chance to try and find a source. As for the other part of your question, if you can find a source that contradicts what's unsourced in the article, then you can be [[:WP:BOLD]] and edit the article [[:WP:RSCONTEXT|to reflect the source]] you found. Sometimes, however, reliable sources may contradict one another and it's can be hard to know for sure which one is correct; in such cases, it might be better to re-phrase the content to reflect this disagreement among the sources instead of just picking one over the other, assuming that that [[:WP:UNDUE]] is not a problem and the sources are for the most part considered to be equals in terms of their reliablility as a source for Wikipedia's purposes.{{pb}}Finally, please try to give a host the chance to respond before reposting the same question or a similar question. All Wikipedia editors are [[:WP:VOLUNTEER]]s and sometimes you just need to be a bit patient when asking for assistance. If you want to add on or correct something you previously posted, it's not always necessary to start a new discussion. Since you're a student editor, you might want to take a look at [[:Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines]] for some general information about how editors interact with each other via talk pages or noticeboards.  -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 07:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== Is the tool to "Fix ambiguous links" broken? ==

Good evening, Teahousers.
I have an article which is still an incomplete draft, so I have {{tl|Userspace draft}} at the top.
This creates a box which includes links to some tools, one of which is described as "Fix ambiguous links".
But when I click on that to run the tool, it gives the following error message:
:This site can’t be reached
:69.142.160.183 took too long to respond.

I have tried running it again several times, with the same result.  Is this a known problem?  Is there a work-around?  Or who should I report it to?

In case it is relevant, the page in question is [[User:Gronk Oz/Paul Rolan]].  -&nbsp;[[User:Gronk Oz|Gronk Oz]] ([[User talk:Gronk Oz|talk]]) 08:52, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
: Welcome to the Teahouse, {{u|Gronk Oz}}. It appears that the server for the tool is down but I'm not sure who to report that to. All this tool does is check for Wikilinks in the text of the Draft that go to disambiguation pages rather than directly to the correct page. I use a much simpler colour-based way to do that, from which I note that your link [[MD]] (which shows in orange for me) is the only one that needs attention. If you want to implement that colour-based mechanism, let me know and I'll dig out the instructions to set it up on your account.  [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 12:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::[[WP:VPT|VPT]] comes to mind as a place to report it. <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 13:19, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{smiley2}} Thanks, all. --[[User:Gronk Oz|Gronk Oz]] ([[User talk:Gronk Oz|talk]]) 23:33, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
	
:{{ec}} {{ping|Gronk Oz}} Reported at [[Template talk:Automated tools#Template-protected edit request on 25 February 2021]] on your behalf.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 23:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|Gronk Oz}} {{fixed}} by {{U|Paine Ellsworth}}.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 04:53, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Wow, quick service - thanks, everybody!  --[[User:Gronk Oz|Gronk Oz]] ([[User talk:Gronk Oz|talk]]) 07:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== How to change the name of a page ==

There is a page i came across..where the spellings and name of the person about whom the page is made are wrong..i wanted to change the title but don’t know how to do it&nbsp;[[User:Ibaadat|Ibaadat]] ([[User talk:Ibaadat|talk]]) 05:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Ibaadat}} It's called a move, and instructions are at [[WP:MOVE]]. If there are other editors that might oppose to your move, please gain consensus first through the steps at [[WP:RM#CM]]. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 05:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{yo|Ibaadat}} What Ganbaruby says about the procedure is correct, but if you are trying to move an existing article about a person to a different title, because you want the article to be about another person with a similar name, you must not do that – it is called [[Wikipedia:Article hijack|article hijacking]]. (I am basing this comment on your recent edits to [[Zain Khan Durrani]]. You can create a draft at [[Draft:Zain Khan]] and submit it for review through the [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]] process, but please review [[WP:PAID|this information]] first.) --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 08:46, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== Company Wikipedia Page ==

Hello, I have one question regarding my page content. I created content for my business where I have discussed everything about my business along with other relevant information and relevant links. But I don't know what is promotional there or please let me know how we can write a company page which also not appear promotional. Dear, I need your help here.&nbsp;[[User:ButlerJan|ButlerJan]] ([[User talk:ButlerJan|talk]]) 10:58, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:Please see your talk page. [[User:Firestar464|Firestar464]] ([[User talk:Firestar464|talk]]) 11:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|ButlerJan}} (ec) Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.  Like others sometimes do, you seem to have a common misunderstanding as to what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia does not have "company pages" written by and under the control of those companies, like a social media page would be.   Wikipedia is an encyclopedia with '''articles about companies''', typically written by independent editors. Those articles summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]].  Wikipedia is not interested in what a company wants to say about itself, only in what others unaffiliated with the company say about it. Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves, even if they are not soliciting customers or selling something. For you to write an article about your company, you would need to forget everything you know about it and everything on your company website and only write based on the content of independent sources.  Most people cannot do that.  If you just want to tell the world about your company, you should use your own website, social media, or [[WP:OUT|other forum]] where that is permitted. 
:Please review [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] and [[WP:PAID|paid editing]] for information on required formal disclosures you must make. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 11:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== Why I am Locked and Blocked Globally !? ==

Yesterday i found my User [[User:Auramstate]] has been locked and Blocked globally ! What was my mistake?

#I don't have create any article 
#Don't have multiple accounts
#I don't think ,i did any mistakes in 22days.
#Talk normally with other.
I sent 2 email to Official team but no response.

What should i do ?

I am not worried that my account is blocked. bcoz it's just a wikiaccount not my bank account.😛

I just want to know what was my mistake?

I am not familiar with mobile editing so please don't mind if any mistakes.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/45.118.105.26|45.118.105.26]] ([[User talk:45.118.105.26|talk]]) 04:19, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|45.118.105.26}} I have checked the account. Both your ip nor your account are blocked. You can see [http://Special:Log?type=block&user=&page=User%3AAuramstate&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= here] that [[User:Auramstate|Auramstate]] is not blocked. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=block&user=&page=User%3A45.118.105.26&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= Here] you can see that your IP is not blocked either.<span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 8px red; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b>[[User:EGL1234|<span style="color:orange">EGL</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:EGL1234|<span style="color: red">1234</span>]]</sup></b></span> 04:23, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

::{{ping|EGL1234}}, While i am trying to login with my wikiaccount credentials result shows . Your account has been globally locked. Yesterday i got email with mention You are blocked from Wikidata for infinite. [[Special:Contributions/45.118.105.26|45.118.105.26]] ([[User talk:45.118.105.26|talk]]) 04:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

:: {{re|EGL1234}} Your link does not work for me, but [[Special:BlockList]] does say "The account Auramstate is already locked globally."  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 04:38, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::: I fixed my link. [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 04:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|RudolfRed}}{{ping|45.118.105.26}} That's relly weird. Maybe you should just create a new account, request a new account, or just appeal. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 8px red; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b>[[User:EGL1234|<span style="color:orange">EGL</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:EGL1234|<span style="color: red">1234</span>]]</sup></b></span> 04:40, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|45.118.105.26}} The lock doesn't appear to have originated on wikipedia, maybe tell us where the lock did originate from. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 8px red; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b>[[User:EGL1234|<span style="color:orange">EGL</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:EGL1234|<span style="color: red">1234</span>]]</sup></b></span> 04:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|45.118.105.26}} You can appeal your lock on meta  [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global#Requests_for_global_(un)lock_and_(un)hiding here.] Thanks. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 8px red; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b>[[User:EGL1234|<span style="color:orange">EGL</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:EGL1234|<span style="color: red">1234</span>]]</sup></b></span> 04:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|EGL1234}}, I can't login with [[User:Auramstate]] and credentials and don't have far knowledge how to find out lock's originate. Massege show while i am trying to login (You are globally Locked)😊 And got a email [[User:Auramstate]] you are blocked from wikidata for infinite. [[Special:Contributions/45.118.105.26|45.118.105.26]] ([[User talk:45.118.105.26|talk]]) 05:03, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|45.118.105.26}} Hi. You could still appeal, and prove that you have access to the account, by verifying the email, which you of course have access to. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 8px red; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b>[[User:EGL1234|<span style="color:orange">EGL</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:EGL1234|<span style="color: red">1234</span>]]</sup></b></span> 05:08, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|EGL1234}}, Yes i can access my email which is verified with my wiki user name. [[User:Auramstate]] was a auto confirmed account also. Thank for your suggestions. I will follow your suggestion 😊.Thanks again with regards.[[Special:Contributions/45.118.105.26|45.118.105.26]] ([[User talk:45.118.105.26|talk]]) 05:27, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|45.118.105.26}} No problem :) <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 8px red; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b>[[User:EGL1234|<span style="color:orange">EGL</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:EGL1234|<span style="color: red">1234</span>]]</sup></b></span> 05:28, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:I personally have always been extremely uncomfortable with hidden evidence and blocks that are not transparently explained. Anything that feels like its against due process rubs me the wrong way. But that is the way sockpuppetry cases are handled. Anyway, the block was issued at Wikidata. [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Log/block?page=User:Auramstate Here's the block log], from which you can see who blocked you, with the reason being "CheckUser", meaning that evidence indicated you were a sockpuppet of someone.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 05:29, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|Fuhghettaboutit}}
What is "sockpuppet" exactly, means wiki tech team found that i have multiple accounts during CheckUser? If this is the reason then wiki tech team needs development. 😂🤣 I join wikipedia 23days ago. edit and learn how wiki works during my office time bcoz i don't have any officework in my office. Before some day i though why spending time on YouTube lets try wikipedia atleast gain some coding knowledge. That's it. I don't have any other accounts. Now i set my mind to create my own website and spending time there to writing blogs. 😊 Thanks with regards. [[Special:Contributions/45.118.105.26|45.118.105.26]] ([[User talk:45.118.105.26|talk]]) 05:49, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:I cannot see what checkuser found on Wikidata exactly, and even if I were able to publish it somewhere on Wikipedia. In general, CheckUser is a powerfull tool because it has access to the connection IP/user account, and can also see the used browser. In this case, the checkuser seemed to be ironically a followup of [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#Auramstate's_request this thread] on the Wikidata Burecrat Noticeboard opened by Auramstate. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 06:38, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|Victor Schmidt}}, Yes I [[User:Auramstate]] Open a discussion but as request not against of any user. i saw the particular user marked vote for delete even an entity have Viaf, worldcat number and an inter wikilinks and argument with other user to proof how the entity is notably.  That's why i feel this is an undid subject thats no one noticed about the problem so i am set a notice to Wikidata Burecrat. everyone can read the conversation. My words r not intentionally nor pointed to abuse to the particularly user but the Wikidata Burecrat have to find out to the reported user's explanation. the user mention clearly he/she have multiple accounts and his/her words like *How can a new user found me that i am blocked and how can a new user get touch with burecart!!!!. really..😂🤣. Is this an explanation!, and the burecart decide that i am found guilty 😋 and my punishment is globally locked. Some one please tell to the wikimedia foundation please don't not allow several tools to new user they can find other user's activities! I can't stop laughing dude... Anyways i learnt lots within 23days of my wikipedia journey and it's a memorable. Thanks to all and special thanks to the tea house members and hosts. [[Special:Contributions/45.118.105.26|45.118.105.26]] ([[User talk:45.118.105.26|talk]]) 07:31, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::For anyone who's reading along, there was curious cross-wiki argy-bargy Z vs QW and QS vs IWI: [https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Quakewoody#QueerSportSplit][https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Quakewoody&diff=1007478134&oldid=900143879][https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razgovor:Queer_Sport_Split#Delete][https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_deletion/Requests/2021/QueerSportSplit]  But Auramstate's global contribs have a different language distribution from those users.  Anyone’s guess whom the checkuser found Auramstate to be the same as.  (Aside: I couldn’t find an SPI for QW's original block here on EN.) I wonder about global CU locks, is there no documented SPI process on Meta?  [[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]]'s observation about lack of transparency may be apt.  Or it could be that I’m not looking in the right places.  — [[User:Pelagic|Pelagic]] (&nbsp;[[User talk:Pelagic|messages]]&nbsp;) – (06:52 Thu 25, AEDT) 19:52, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::::<span style="font-size:75%;">@[[:User:Pelagic|Pelagic]]:</span> I would just note that before posting last night I looked at the global contributions ''of the blocking Steward'', and I too was unable to find any such pertinent SPI or SPI analogue they use at Meta/Wikidata, et al. – despite finding his or her involvement in a variety of such cases--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 20:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::Appears they have a light-weight procedure of requesting a steward lock without another formal SP investigation. Presumably a lot of cases are documented on other wikis before being escalated to global intervention. But what if they aren’t? (Apologies, I’m learning about this as I go.) With UCoC Enforcement on its way, I’m concerned that the idea of "long term abuse" could get broadened and there will be more undocumented lockings. 
:::::I just searched through https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global/2021-02 and couldn’t find anything pertinent.  The instruction {{tq|If the account name is grossly insulting or contains personal information please contact a steward privately ...}} wouldn’t seem to apply to the locked user, AFAICT. 
:::::— [[User:Pelagic|Pelagic]] (&nbsp;[[User talk:Pelagic|messages]]&nbsp;) – (08:34 Thu 25, AEDT) 21:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::I am actually worried about this case, but I get the feeling we would need someone with checkuser access on Wikidata. What currently is most concerning for me is wether the evidence behind the block was of technical or behavoiral nature, and the fact that it is nowhere realy documented. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 11:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::<span style="font-size:75%;">@[[:User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]]:</span> Yeah, me too. Sure, the underltying reason could be legitimate but for all we know the OP is more like [[The Trial|Josef K.]] than we know. Yes, Wikimedia's a private organization; we don't have courts nor treat our policies/guidelines like statutes but we properly care about the spirit of our guiding policies and cultural norms—and our culture in most areas is all about transparency. Not here. Even SPI cases are concerning in their lack of transparency but at least there we see some process playing out. If we did take up a more court-like process there would have been multiple notices required before a default judgment issued and could be enforced, which would be vacated in a heartbeat if lack of due process in its issuance was discovered.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 12:54, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== lowercase sigmabot III not archiving article Talk ==

I added the MiszaBot archiving template to [[Talk:List of multiplayer browser games]] a week ago but lowercase sigmabot III still hasn't archived it. Here's the code:
<pre>
{{User:MiszaBot/config
| algo=old(90d)
| archive=Talk:List of multiplayer browser games/Archive %(counter)d
| counter=1
| maxarchivesize=75K
| archiveheader={{Automatic archive navigator}}
| minthreadsleft=5
| minthreadstoarchive=2
}}
</pre>
That was copied from [[Help:Archiving a talk page#Sequentially numbered archives]], I just copied and pasted the Talk page title into the archive= field. I've done this before and never had a problem so I'm stumped. [[User talk:Σ]] suggested asking here, so here I am. Ideas? [[User:Woodroar|Woodroar]] ([[User talk:Woodroar|talk]]) 14:04, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Woodroar}} hmm, I can't seem to find the issue. On my TP I use ClueBot which works fine - maybe try that? <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 14:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{u|Giraffer}}, I was considering that but thought I'd ask here just in case. {{smiley}} If nobody figures it out by the time this thread gets archived, I'll do that. Thanks for taking a look! [[User:Woodroar|Woodroar]] ([[User talk:Woodroar|talk]]) 14:26, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Woodroar}} There was a blacklisted link which prevents the bot from saving the archive. I have deactivated it.[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_multiplayer_browser_games&diff=1009060171&oldid=1009058749] Come back if it hasn't archived in two days. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 14:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
::::{{u|PrimeHunter}}, ohhh, that makes sense. I'll remember to look for that going forward. Thanks and cheers! [[User:Woodroar|Woodroar]] ([[User talk:Woodroar|talk]]) 14:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== Inanimate Insanity Declined On WIkipedia.. ==

This Question Is Kind Of Interesting To Me. I Tried To Create An Article Based Off Of Inanimate insanity. But It Showed Me A Decline Article
By Many Users. So How Come The Article Was Declined And Is Not On Wikipedia?&nbsp;[[User:Waistprate|Waistprate]] ([[User talk:Waistprate|talk]]) 15:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hello {{u|Waistprate}}. You'll find some info at this link: [[Inanimate Insanity]]. The article-name is currently [[WP:SALT]]ed. Your draft [[Draft:Inanimate Insanity (Internet Series)]] currently has no citations to [[WP:RS]], so it fails [[WP:GNG]] as-is. Existing is not enough. [[WP:YFA]] may be of help to you. Consider editing [https://inanimateinsanity.fandom.com/wiki/Home Inanimate Insanity Wiki], the internet is vast. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 16:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== Adding more information in templates ==

Dear editors and others of Wikipedia. Forgive me for I am new to this site. I have enjoyed using Wikipedia for as long as I can remember. However, after visiting the site so many times, I feel that somethings are missing. For those who don't have time to read every single piece of information on some historical or current leader. politician, etc, etc. They don't know how to get this information. I propose a couple of ideas for the templates.
{{cot|Collapsing extended content. <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 09:48, 26 February 2021 (UTC)}}

'''Ideas'''


What I am proposing is this.


'''Tenet:''' Progressive, Neutral or Conservative


With this, users and those visiting the site can learn what their favorite historical or current leaders' tenet is.


For example. Oda Nobunaga, Qin Shi Huang and Cao Cao were Progressive.
Sun Quan, Sanada Yukimura, Zhang Liao, Minamoto no Yoshitsune and Tokugawa Ieyasu were Neutral.
Adolf Hitler, Takeda Shingen and Zhuge Liang were Conservative.


These are just a couple of historical individuals to give you an idea.


'''Ideals:''' Ambition, Fame, Talent, Family, Determination, Mastery, Greed, or Justice.


With this, users and those visiting the site can learn what their favorite historical or current leaders ideals are.


'''Fame:''' Shimazu Yoshihiro and Minamoto no Yoshitsune


'''Talent:''' Toyotomi Hideyoshi and Kuroda Yoshitaka.


'''Greed:''' Dong Zhuo, Tokugawa Ieyasu, Matsunaga Hisahide and Lu Bu.


'''Justice:''' Sanada Yukimura, Hosokawa Tadaoki, Liu Bei, Zhuge Liang and Zhao Yun.


This give you an idea.


'''Tier:''' C, B, A or S.


With this, users and those visiting the site can learn what their favorite historical or current leaders tier.


'''S:''' Cao Cao, Oda Nobunaga, Zhang Liao, Zhuge Liang, Qin Shi Huang, Minamoto no Yoshitsune and Toyotomi Hideyoshi.


'''A:''' Kuroda Yoshitaka, Miyoshi Nagayoshi, Hosokawa Tadaoki, Akechi Mitsuhide and Shimazu Iehisa.


This gives you an idea.


'''Rebellious:''' 1 ~ 15


'''14:''' Date Masamune and Ōtomo Sōrin.


'''13:''' Miyoshi Nagayoshi.


'''12:''' Oda Nobunaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi and Kuroda Yoshitaka.


'''11:''' Imagawa Yoshimoto.


This gives you an idea.

{{cob}}
If these ideas are added to templates, it should help users and newcomers learn must faster and more efficiently on what or who they wish to learn about. It doesn't have to just apply on people, but policies, groups, organizations or whatever it can be applied to.


This is what I propose to help Wikipedia help those who want to known this type of information is essential to any avid leader or newcomer. Like with everything, Wikipedia must move forward. If not, those who do not are doomed to fail. That is all I have to propose at the moment.&nbsp;[[User:Azuchi1579|Azuchi1579]] ([[User talk:Azuchi1579|talk]]) 09:15, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Azuchi1579}}, if you have a proposal, the best place to take it is to the [[WP:VPI]]. <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 09:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{Re|Azuchi1579}} Clearly, you've put a lot of thought into this idea. However, that may be the problem in adopting it here because the nature of Wikipedia is exactly opposite of that, disallowing any form of [[WP:original research|original research]]. Instead, as an [[encyclopedia]], we write about what [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]] have written about a subject. Even if there were reliable sources that had "[[pigeonholing|pigeon-holed]]" people in exactly this way, I'm sure there would be other reliable sources that would disagree, making it incorrect for us to just pick one or to do any form of [[WP:SYNTH|synthesis]] to try to make it fit this model. Instead, we [[WP:NPOV|neutrally summarize]] the different points of view of those sources. (See the blue links and the other pages to which they link for the related policies and guidelines.) <span style="color:red">—[</span>[[User:AlanM1|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:green">Alan</span><span style="color:blue">M</span><span style="color:purple">1</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlanM1|talk]])<span style="color:red">]—</span> 16:08, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== How to distinguish notable people with same name ==

&nbsp;[[User:Tinyskeptic|Tinyskeptic]] ([[User talk:Tinyskeptic|talk]]) 16:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Tinyskeptic}}, depends on situation. Compare [[George Washington]], [[George Washington (trombonist)]], [[George Washington Carver]] and [[George Dewey Washington]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 16:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== FAW offensive 1986 ==

How do I obtain a copy of the map of the FAW front line in 1986&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/82.22.110.215|82.22.110.215]] ([[User talk:82.22.110.215|talk]]) 16:28, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

:@82.22.110.215: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. What kind of computer are using? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Starman2377|contribs]]) 16:34, 26 February 2021 (UTC)</span>
: You might ask at the appropriate [[WP:Reference Desk|Reference Desk]] (and specify which FAW you mean). <span style="color:red">—[</span>[[User:AlanM1|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:green">Alan</span><span style="color:blue">M</span><span style="color:purple">1</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlanM1|talk]])<span style="color:red">]—</span> 16:59, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== How do I change the importance of a Wikiproject? ==

I was trying to change the importance of Draft:Coup (game) from N/A to Mid. Can anyone tell me how? Am I even allowed to?&nbsp;[[User:Grantastik|Grantastik]] [[User talk:Grantastik|talk]] 18:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Grantastik}} sure, edit the {{para|importance}} parameter on the template. Though, generally, it doesn't make sense to set that until the article is published. [[User:Elliot321|Elliot321]] ([[User_talk:Elliot321|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Elliot321|contribs]]) 19:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ec}} {{courtesy link|Draft:Coup (game)}} {{re|Grantastik}} I'd wait to see if it is accepted first. I'm not sure the current sourcing demonstrates notability. See [[WP:GNG]]. And technically you are trying to change the importance of the draft, not the related Wikiproject. [[User:Timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 19:56, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Grantastik}}, next to anything mentioned before the importance of a Wikiproject Rating for a Draft does in no way speed up its review, it has not much sense modifying it on a Draft. [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 21:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Grantastik}} To add to what others have said here, there's a decently high threshold for an article to be considered of Mid importance to a WikiProject, at least as far as precedent is concerned. Just as an example, articles such as [[2008 United States presidential election]] and the [[2001 anthrax attacks]] are categorized as Mid-importance articles for WikiProject United States. 'Low' importance is essentially the norm the overwhelming majority of articles, and this importance is separate from its quality scale (see: [[WP:ASSESS]]). As I've come to understand it, a 'Top' priority article is one where it would be majorly detrimental to a WikiProject to not have an article about it (as an example, [[Joe Biden]], [[Spanish–American War]], and the [[United States Bill of Rights]] for WikiProject United States; 'High' is where a WikiProject would be conspicuously lacking without it (as an example, [[Apollo 13]], [[Kansas]], and [[Brett Kavanaugh]] for WP US); 'Mid' is fairly important to an article; and 'Low' is one that contributes to the breadth of knowledge of the WikiProject's subject field, but whose absence from the project would not be very conspicuous. There's definitely some flexibility between these, and there are plenty which I would change (for example, '[[Dewey Arch]]' is somehow Top importance, while [[John Adams]] is only High), but unless ''Coup'' has had a large impact on the world of gaming, there's just no good reason in my eyes to assess it as being of Mid importance. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 17:16, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== Entering a notable person with the same name as another  ==

How do I distinguish an existing notable person already on Wikipedia with a new entry having the same name?&nbsp;[[User:Tinyskeptic|Tinyskeptic]] ([[User talk:Tinyskeptic|talk]]) 16:40, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hi, {{u|Tinyskeptic}}, and welcome to the Teahouse. As {{u|Gråbergs Gråa Sång}} noted above, there are a few ways this can be done. It can be a bit subjective if you use parentheses, but please read [[WP:NCDAB]]. If you're still not sure after reading this, you could say who the existing notable person is and who the subject of your new entry would be, and we could probably give you a suggestion. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 16:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hello, {{U|Tinyskeptic}}, and welcome to the Teahouse, and to Wikipedia. My advice is not to worry about this question ''at all'' until much later. If you are contemplating the (much more difficult than it looks) task of creating a new article about somebody, then my advice to anybody who hasn't already successfully created several articles would be to use the [[WP:articles for creation|articles for creation]] process to create a draft. When you've developed the draft to the point where it might be ready to go into the main encyclopaedia, you submit it for review: if the reviewer accepts it, they will look after moving it to an appropriate title and handling disambiguation as necessary. I would actually go further, and advise not even thinking about creating a new article until you've made several hundred improvements to existing articles that have not been reverted by other editors: at that point you are more likely to have some understanding of what is required in an article. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== Red Devil Battlebot ==
I need help with finishing an article page.
I really need help with the page [[Red Devil Battlebot]] that I made, I don't know how to finish it off well, and every time I make an attempt I look at other people's examples and realize how much better their articles are.&nbsp;[[User:0crock|0crock]] 18:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Courtesy link; the draft being discussed is at [[Draft:Red devil battlebot]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:28, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:@[[User:0crock|0crock]] Hello and welcome to the teahouse. Are there any more articles about the robots featured in the show? [[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377|talk]]) 18:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::@[[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] Yes, I basically just tried to implement the features of the [[BioHazard]] Battlebot page. [[User:0crock|0crock]]
:::@[[User:0crock|0crock]] I see that the BioHazard Battlebot page is lacking citations. So make sure you're article has correct citations. [[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377|talk]]) 19:15, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] Alright, thanks for helping man!  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:0crock|0crock]] ([[User talk:0crock#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/0crock|contribs]]) 19:16, 24 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::::@[[User:0crock|0crock]] You're welcome! Need anything else? [[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377|talk]]) 19:30, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] Not at the moment, thanks for asking though!  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:0crock|0crock]] ([[User talk:0crock#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/0crock|contribs]]) 19:31, 24 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::::::@[[User:0crock|0crock]] Understood, Happy editing. [[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377|talk]]) 19:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::::{{re|Starman2377}} As it turns out, the article for BioHazard was created in 2006 and was therefore probably a victim of early Wikipedia's much more lax citation standards. I've compiled a preliminary list of potentially useful citations on the article's talk page and plan to use them to improve the article, and I plan to do the same to help {{u|0crock}} with their Red Devil draft. While I'm convinced BioHazard meets notability guidelines (I was genuinely ready to bring it to AfD before I started digging up sources while performing [[WP:BEFORE]]), I'm not really sure if that's the case for Red Devil at a glance, but it's worth looking into, since it kind of seems on-the-fence right now. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 21:56, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:As a good-faith, but not helpful response to this request, Fandom and Facebook have been added as sources and I had to fix the indentation above. Sooner or later, when not receiving help, people are usually relatively successful at finding correct instructions on various pages such as [[WP:RSP]]. They're less likely to find such pages when receiving unhelpful instructions by other new editors. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 19:55, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::Very few (any?) of the individual battlebots have been the subjects of Wikipedia articles. Even your mention of [[BioHazard]] has no references, and thus at risk for being nominated at Articles for Deletion. For Red Devil, I doubt that Fandom or Facebook can be considered reliable source references, and the Battlebot website content is just a name mention and photo. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 21:48, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Hi, {{u|David notMD}}. While I think Red Devil's notability status is more ambiguous (see above), I found a handful of sources that make me believe BioHazard meets notability guidelines just doing a few minutes of [[WP:BEFORE]], so I'm starting work on improving the article – more firmly establishing notability and bringing its citations up from 2006's to 2021's Wikipedia standards. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 22:14, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
@{{u|David notMD}} @[[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] @{{u|TheTechnician27}}, So I need an overall idea of what you guys think, if I work on this article enough to make it good, will it be able to meet Wiki Standards, or will it not become posted. ~ {{u|0crock}}
:My personal opinion based on a preliminary search for sources is that the answer would be 'no', as I think it falls just shy. For context, [[Draft talk:Red devil battlebot|this]] is the list of reliable, third-party sources I was able to find about Red Devil. I also searched for it under the name HyperActive but couldn't find anything. This could just be a case of [[WP:TOOSOON]], though, and I think keeping the article intact in the draftspace could be worthwhile. To be entirely clear, though, none of this is a reflection on you as an editor; this is just a matter of whether or not Red Devil falls short of [[WP:N|Wikipedia's notability guidelines]]. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 22:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@[[User:0crock|0crock]] Don't give up! I think you can still try to make your article the best it can be, I think you may need help with it aswell. [[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377|talk]]) 15:59, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@[[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] Thanks for encouraging me, I will continue working on the draft. ~ [[User:0crock|0crock]]  <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 18:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Changing user name==
How do I change my username?&nbsp;[[User:Alicced|Alicced]] ([[User talk:Alicced|talk]]) 17:54, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

[[User talk:Alicced|Alicced]] Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse, Here is a link to request a username change. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username[[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377|talk]]) 18:25, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== why why why  ==

hilary clinton how come no one ask her what she meant by refuges are fast cash in her wiki texts
why isent no one asking bicth clinton what she meant when she said refugies are fast cash in her wikilink text&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/75.118.248.113|75.118.248.113]] ([[User talk:75.118.248.113|talk]]) 19:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:The Teahouse is a place for asking questions about editing Wikipedia. Do you have one? <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 19:48, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

==make a wikipedia page==
Hello, I was wondering if I could make a wikipedia page on a content creator?&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/73.70.157.196|73.70.157.196]] ([[User talk:73.70.157.196|talk]]) 21:18, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

:Start with reading [[WP:BASIC]]. If you conclude "Yep, I have those sources, no problem", move on to [[WP:YFA]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 21:25, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

== Relativity between two same things ==

Wikipedia auto-filter of source is, and well very good, for, well blackish-source-interception. However, is it because of political stand-point, or is it really "a bad new source", to eventually restrict user against citing Global Times source. If you want to go further arguing with me, why not let me interpret and explain to you the reality. Is that when I cited Global Times source and confirm my publish of edit, one nuisance would pop-up, saying clear that the source I'm citing is not reliable or whatever, who impose this restriction? Gosh, second step I took, was however, tried to find Global Time's trace in other article, I found a bunch of it. Like India News citation, as in 2020 China-India Skirmishes, the news was directly sourced from global times, acting s third party, then, why not you, together, restrict the website's citation availability. Besides, being one of one of the only, well state-owned news media, it has full coverage of everything, that is, well, possible to be covered by their news team. Lots of Chinese (mainland)-news-sources is based on Global Times as reference (full-copy) while being cited through third party websites, like SCMP, India Times etc., to source news form Global Times. Who can explain this? If Global Times is unreliable, I think third party could not live, then, as of now.&nbsp;[[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11|talk]]) 13:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

INFORMATION FROM WIKIPEDIA'S ARTICLE ON [[Global Times]]: "The Global Times is a daily tabloid newspaper under the auspices of the Chinese Communist Party's People's Daily newspaper, commenting on international issues from a nationalistic perspective. The newspaper has spread unfounded conspiracy theories and disinformation related to the COVID-19 pandemic." And, per [[Global Times]], disinformation about other topics. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 13:19, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Every news has its on views on cases, it doesn't mean it has a joint-conspiracy theory of doing things, even though "you" hate the ideology of CCP doing things, leaded by leaders in your "own country", accept this as a controversial point of view. Just accept and justify it. For fake spreading of news, you can't prove it clear, I can say this statement is false, and is brought up by western community to counter CCP. I believe a lot didn't cared about news transparency and unpropitious/incorrect of it, but as part of their country's worldwide efforts to destabilize all communist governments, they ramp up against CCP, like as news agency such as BBC.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 14:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:This is a reliable sources discussion. Anyone want to weigh in? [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 14:59, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
::There is near unanimous agreement, per this discussion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_311#RfC:_Global_Times] that the Global Times is a tabloid propaganda rag, and is thus a "deprecated" source. [[User:AdmiralEek|AdmiralEek]] ([[User talk:AdmiralEek|talk]]) 15:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

If, Global Times, per anti-ideological "editors", is a tabloid propaganda rag, and is thus a "deprecated" source, then why we cite third-party source that is copied and sourced directly from Global Times, isn't this indirect distribution of propaganda. Say it steadily for your self, Wikipedia is for everyone and is free for everyone to share their thoughts, and censorship does not occur under political standpoint or ideological-prejudice. If Wikipedia wants to play political propaganda censorship, why not BBC, CNBC et. cetera. get banned, as they follow western ideology and is on the conspiracy of Western propaganda. These are the inequality of news availability, and I request fellow Wikipedia to remove the restriction. Within the limits, I can also say BBC spread fake Chinese deprecated news out and is a tabloid propaganda rag, and this is why it gets banned. SO, IF YOU WANT TO PLAY THIS CARD WITH ME, GO DO IT TO BBC, #EQUALITY AND FREEDOM OF NEWS AVAILABILITY AND NON-POLITICAL-"SIDE VIEWS" OR STANDPOINT. So, you see, the Western accused G.T. of spreading fake propaganda, and thus, G.T. is restricted, then, on the other hand, China accused BBC of spreading fake and "counterfeit" propaganda in and around China, so, why not, we restrict BBC citation. With such, I DON'T THINK EITHER G.T. OR BBC IS WRONG, BUT POLITICAL JUDGEMENT AND CRITICAL POLITICAL BLACKISH/ENVIOUS OF THE CHINA ERA THAT causes G.T. TO GET THIS TREATMENT, AND, POLITICAL REFRAIN AND avenges/TIT-FOR-TAT caused BBC TO GET BANNED. SO WHY NOT, IN THIS COMMUNITY, LET'S CREATE POLITICAL-FREE ENVIRONMENT, and stop the restriction.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 04:55, 20 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:You said "Wikipedia is for everyone and is free for everyone to share their thoughts". No, Wikipedia is definitely not for everyone to share their thoughts. Our articles report what reliable sources have said. We have judged that ''Global Times'' is not reliable and BBC is. It's not about which ideology a source has but whether their claims are considered reliable. Western sources can also be unreliable. The British ''[[Daily Mail]]'' was the first source to be deprecated. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 10:04, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Hypersonic man 11}} There is also a big difference between the Chinese state censorship banning media from the whole country, and Wikipedia, a privately run website, choosing not to report what somebody claims. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 10:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
:It's unclear to me how allowing use of a source that apparently disseminates propaganda would "create a political-free environment", {{u|Hypersonic man 11}}. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 10:38, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
@[[User:PrimeHunter]], this is per Wikipedia, not form me
@[[User:PrimeHunter]], if the whole state media team is banned, BBC and others should get banned for Eastern's violation and controversy.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 11:38, 20 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The two cases aren't remotely comparable: the BBC is editorially independent of the British government. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 12:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
@[[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]], stop arguing and interpreting in a political standpoint, the "independent" means non-sate-own, and you are credibly just going recklessly against CCP AND communism ideology like other Wikipedians to destabilize Chinese presence in the growing world. BBC, i know, it isn't backed by state, however, it is whirled inside the case, of spreading of fake news, and, is considered a "deprecated" source, as per China. Neither of them is wrong, I know, "but" they are just dragged by political tensions. Say it your self, BBC also spread fake and unapproved news.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 13:02, 20 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

@[[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]], no, I didn't credibly mention disseminating propaganda would create political free environment, but, I meant Western Wikipedians follow a conspiracy of destabilizing growing Chinese presence, instead of saying it is a propaganda spread-room, we can say it is an insightful source of Chinese article. For the propaganda, every government has it, and you're gonna adapt to China's today, in 21st century.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 13:10, 20 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If your beloved Chinese dictators conquer the World then they can close Wikipedia or use it in their propaganda. Until then, the editors decide what to do. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 13:29, 20 February 2021 (UTC) 

Whoa, don't go any further with this, I first mention news availability, not pro-parties, why do you have to meddle with politics against each-other in Wikipedia? Do you want to go any further? Until then, your snubs are deleted and you are round-up-ed. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 13:47, 20 February 2021 (UTC)</span>

:AdmiralEek pointed out that in 2020 there was a month-long debate on Global Times as a reliable source and the decision at that time was "Result: Global Times is deprecated and is now considered an unreliable source; WP:SNOW close. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:39, 4 September 2020 (UTC)"  A new RfC discussion could be started, but for now, that decision stands. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 15:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

@[[User:David notMD|David notMD]], Neither does I want to be whirled into the politics, however, just saying, that none of the bilateral media group is a deprecated or unreliable source, they, particularly is forced by state and their conspiracy held theory to go against each and other, BBC is forced to spy-report Xinjiang camps and create counterfeit and fake news, to convince others to go against China's ethnic issues, does we have to meddle with propagandas here, I could held BBC up for commenting on Eastern issues from a nationalistic perspective. The newspaper has also spread unfounded conspiracy theories and disinformation related to the Xinjiang reeducation camp and is considered a deprecated source. I could do this, if @DavidnotMD wants G.T. to continue get restricted in citation, from a western perspective and reckless conspiracies, you should, however, consider to do this to BBC, from an eastern perspective and conspiracy theory.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 03:28, 21 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I don't expect this to be month long, however, I will fight until eastern gets the justice, ZH:Wikipedia also cites Chinese state-media news, and I strongly believed that they are much more ahead than us in Chinese article, for the time being, I am also ZH:Wikipedia member, and I do want to take the move if rights doesn't exist here. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) </span>

@[[User:David notMD|David notMD]], so, how was it now?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 03:58, 22 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

@[[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] Multiple users (from what i'm guessing, i'm not going to make myself read this whole thing) have told you GT is not going to be a source used on this wikipedia, there has also been many discussions people have posted, keep arguing like this is going to go nowhere. I'd also like to note that GT is owned by People's daily, which is a newspaper company in China, can you guess who runs it? : ) [[User:Max20characters|Max20characters]] ([[User talk:Max20characters|talk]]) 17:45, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@[[User:Max20characters|Max20characters]], What's wrong with state-owned, do you got any clue Al-Jazeera and other news media don't get such brutal treatment. I will go forward with it, you can argue with me but not without a reason.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 05:05, 24 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

@[[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] The difference between PD and other state owned news media is that the CCP is known for spreading false information. : ) Also, just a tip, you should put four tildes (~) after your text to sign it. It makes wikipedia look nicer. Like this -> [[User:Max20characters|Max20characters]] ([[User talk:Max20characters|talk]]) 16:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@[[User:Max20characters|Max20characters]], thanks for your assist. However, if you want to point out Western accusation of GT spreading fake news, you should rather refer to Eastern accusation of BBC news spreading fake and mislead Xinjiang concentration camp news. Instead, you should also take a look at state-owned Qatari Al-Jazeera case.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 04:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Why is this even an arguement, It is impossible to avoid some type of bias, and everyone has their own biases, I personally, plan on avoiding what I know I am biased about, that way, I can properly contribute to this website, honestly, with ANY news agency, we should probably cross-reference the news sources with others, and take a middle stance between the sources, that way, that we get a wide range of information, and can hopefully avoid issues like this in the future, or issues in credibility, or, say some propaganda/false information doesn't get in [[User:Kiritami (621)|Kiri621x]] ([[User talk:Kiritami (621)|talk]]) 16:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:I might have misunderstood you, {{u|Kiritami (621)}}, but we shouldn't take a "middle stance" between sources when one is unreliable. Please see [[WP:NPOV]], which tells us that we should be "representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published ''by reliable sources on a topic''". Contrary to the heading of this section, in this case we're not talking about "two same things". [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 08:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@[[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] I never said GT spread fake news though? I said the CCP spreads fake news. Also, if you can provide me a source that the eastern has accused BBC news of lying that's not from a chinese owned media, I'd be happy to read it. : ) [[User:Max20characters|Max20characters]] ([[User talk:Max20characters|talk]]) 17:10, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@[[User:Max20characters|Max20characters]], https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/16/china-blocks-bbc-world-news-after-uk-revokes-license-of-cgtn.html#:~:text=China's%20National%20Radio%20and%20Television,of%20damaging%20China's%20national%20interests., this is your basic reference, if per you, CCP spread fake news, it is not a news agency, how can it spread news, it is through a news agency to spread propaganda, and BBC is the case here.

@[[User:Kiritami (621)|Kiri621x]], how can we avoid if everyone don't tolerant, you can argue, but, at least, show some respect, in, this debate,  if, we stop this, next user would still argue with it. You say it right, wide range, but the range you got, is from GT, so why aren't we arguing.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 03:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

@[[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] Hi,I don't exactly understand, there has been multiple news media that has called out China for the xinjiang camp, like business insider, the guardian, radio free asia, etc. but you decided to pick on BBC because it's owned by UK goverment. Even though everyone who has more than 1 braincell in their head knows China built concentration camps for uighur population. Also, I asked for a source that accused BBC of lying that's not from a chinese media, because obviously they would try to cover up the xinjiang events happening now. [[User:Max20characters|Max20characters]] ([[User talk:Max20characters|talk]]) 16:31, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@[[User:Max20characters|Max20characters]], IF, you don't understand, don't go ahead. You can report and called out for certain scenario, but reporting misleading news and blackish reports based on nationalistic propaganda and prejudice-mental views is right, wdyt. Now, what did GT mis-reported, say it out. Unlike others, you are just going recklessly against "CCP".  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hypersonic man 11|Hypersonic man 11]] ([[User talk:Hypersonic man 11#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hypersonic man 11|contribs]]) 01:01, 27 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Can I use this image? ==

I wanted to know if I could se this image KPRC-TV-2018 Logo.png  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ItsJustdancefan|ItsJustdancefan]] ([[User talk:ItsJustdancefan#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ItsJustdancefan|contribs]]) 00:15, 27 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{ping|ItsJustdancefan}} What do you want to use [[:File:KPRC-TV-2018_Logo.png]] for?  It's already used on the [[KPRC-TV]] article.  {{please}} [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:10, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hi [[User:ItsJustdancefan|ItsJustdancefan]]. All of the images you have uploaded to the Commons appear to me to be [[Copyright infringement|copyright violations]], with you claiming to release the ownership over content you don't own. I could be wrong, but can you please explain how you own the copyright of these various works (I would normally think that are owned by big companies, like NBC, and similar) such that you have the authority to release them under Creative Commons licenses? (I would note that it's possible some of these may be not subject to copyright in the first place, as too simple geometric shapes and text, but that is a different issue).--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 01:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)<br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small>{{ping|GoingBatty}} It's in use there because ''this user uploaded the image and then added it to the article''.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 01:16, 27 February 2021 (UTC)</small>

== DISPLAYTITLE position ==

Hello,

Whereabouts in an article should one place the [[WP:DISPLAYTITLE|DISPLAYTITLE]] magic word{{snd}}in the rare case that it should be used? [[MOS:ORDER]] doesn't appear to have any thoughts on magic words other than DEFAULTSORT.

Thanks,&nbsp;<span style="display:inline;padding:0.2em;font-weight:bold;">[[User:Ritenerek|<span style="color:#bf13a4;">ritenerek</span>]][[User_talk:Ritenerek|<sup style="color:#c66815;">talk :)</sup>]]</span> 01:29, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Ritenerek}} Welcome!  [[Template:DISPLAYTITLE]] says it can be used anywhere within an article.  However, it's usually placed at the top (before the article content).  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:35, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::Okay, {{U|GoingBatty}}, cheers! <span style="display:inline;padding:0.2em;font-weight:bold;">[[User:Ritenerek|<span style="color:#bf13a4;">ritenerek</span>]][[User_talk:Ritenerek|<sup style="color:#c66815;">talk :)</sup>]]</span> 01:39, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Guy Crescent ==

Hello. I would like some help.<br>I am currently in the process of translating the article [[Draft:Guy Crescent]] from the [[:fr:Guy Crescent|French article]]. I just don't know what the procedure is for putting attribution to the original article in the other language. If someone could please move the article to mainspace (I will continue translating afterwards; I'm not done yet) and do the correct procedure, that would be very helpful. Thanks.&nbsp;[[User:Paul Vaurie|Paul Vaurie]] ([[User talk:Paul Vaurie|talk]]) 01:24, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Paul Vaurie}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  For the attribution procedure, see [[Help:Translation]].  Happy translating!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:31, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:: {{ping|GoingBatty}} Hey, is what I did ok? And secondly, I don't know how to create the talk page... could you do that for me? Thanks. [[User:Paul Vaurie|Paul Vaurie]] ([[User talk:Paul Vaurie|talk]]) 01:45, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Paul Vaurie}} To create a talk page, you click on the "Talk" tab at the top left of the article.  I created it for you with a couple of WikiProjects and the {{tl|Translated page}} template.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:56, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:::: Thanks again! [[User:Paul Vaurie|Paul Vaurie]] ([[User talk:Paul Vaurie|talk]]) 01:57, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Other Than Engliish ==

If a editor is contributing to english wikipedia in a language ither than english, think he is contributing in japanese, then how should I warn him?&nbsp;[[User:ExclusiveEditor|ExclusiveEditor]] ([[User talk:ExclusiveEditor|talk]]) 03:44, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|ExclusiveEditor}} Use one of the templates at [[Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/Welcome_templates#Non-English]].  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 03:51, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Are these two articles talking about the same subject? ==

I stumbled across the article [[Palar River (Kaveri basin)]] and noticed a disambig at the top to the article [[Palar River]]. Upon closer inspection, the one with the disambig "(Kaveri Basin)" has only had two edits: one when it was created less than a year ago by {{u|Vijethnbharadwaj}}, and one when {{u|Wolfgang8741}} provided the disambig, possibly not realizing these two articles could be about the same subject. The same map picture is even shared between articles.

If they are the same, what would I even do in this case? Merge the content into the main article and then just make the duplicate a redirect to the main article?

As an aside, I had to blank a very obvious case of plagiarism from the main article that had been sitting there since 2015. Is there anything else I should do besides adding this information back in in my own words? <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 04:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|TheTechnician27}}. I have not looked at first issue. As to the second (good catch!), for future reference (since I have taken care of the issue at the article), you would mark the history for redaction using {{tl|copyvio-revdel}}. I wrote more expansive instructions for what to do in two places that might be of interest: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions#Step 1: Quick-fail criteria]] → click show → scroll down to Copyright cleanup instructions → click show; and [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol#copyvio cleanup]]. Best regards--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 05:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|TheTechnician27}} [[Palar River (Kaveri basin)]] mentions the [[Palar blast]], so I think they're writing about this river: [https://goo.gl/maps/biGXAnvVUWehjkx46]. Some of the references also mention a "Palar River" that forms the north border of [[Erode]]. I think it's plausible that they're not the same river. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 05:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi {{ping|TheTechnician27}},{{ping|Wolfgang8741}},{{ping|Fuhghettaboutit}},{{ping|Ganbaruby}}. [[Palar River]] and [[Palar River (Kaveri basin)]] refers to two different Rivers. [[Palar River]] is an independent River which takes birth in [[Nandi Hills]], [[Karnataka]], flows through [[Andhra Pradesh]] and [[Tamil Nadu]] to get drained up in [[Bay of Bengal]]. It flows through [[Bethamangala]], [[Kuppam]], [[Vaniyambadi]], [[Ambur]] and many other towns. [[Palar River (Kaveri basin)]] takes birth in [https://www.google.co.in/maps/place/11%C2%B035'43.5%22N+77%C2%B015'46.5%22E/@11.5959695,77.2594734,1737m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d11.595404!4d77.262917?hl=en Northern Part of Erode district] adjacent to [https://www.google.co.in/maps/place/Kambathrayan+Temple/@11.593317,77.2635202,1409m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x0:0x0!2zMTHCsDM1JzQzLjUiTiA3N8KwMTUnNDYuNSJF!3b1!8m2!3d11.595404!4d77.262917!3m4!1s0x3ba92610ee4dae31:0xc69315b8842318e0!8m2!3d11.5919575!4d77.2712794?hl=en Kambathrayan Temple] in [[Tamil Nadu]], flows through Kadambur covering Guthiyalathur Extension R.F. later forming border between [[Karnataka]] and [[Tamil Nadu]] states, passing through villages of Ookkiyam, Hoogya, Gopinatham and drains up to [[Kaveri River]] near border village of Palar, just before [[Mettur Dam]]. Since these two Pages gives info on two different Rivers with same name, I wish to retain both the articles. The same map picture can be used since the attached map did not refer to a single River, but depicts Hydrography of entire Tamil Nadu/Puducherry, 90% of Kerala and few parts of Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh. Entire path of both [[Palar River]] and [[Kaveri River]] ([[Palar River (Kaveri basin)]] is a tributary of Kaveri) can be seen in this Map and hence it is justified to retain the same. Moreover this Map is not a Political/Provincial Map. It is a Physical Map and Hydrography is very much a content of such Maps. -[[User:Vijethnbharadwaj|Vijethnbharadwaj]] ([[User talk:Vijethnbharadwaj|talk]]) 08:06, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Election? ==

How is a administrator elected on Wikipedia?&nbsp;[[User:ExclusiveEditor|ExclusiveEditor]] ([[User talk:ExclusiveEditor|talk]]) 05:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|ExclusiveEditor}} see [[WP:Requests for adminship]]. [[User:WhoAteMyButter|<span style="color:#ffb300;text-shadow:1px 1px 6px rgba(255,153,0,0.6)">WhoAteMyButter</span>]] ([[User talk:WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Talk Page">📨</span>]]│[[Special:Contributions/WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Contribs">📝</span>]]) 05:38, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::It's a small group! Only about 500 people with Administrator status are currently considered active (another 600 or so less active or have stopped participating in Wikipedia). [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 08:38, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Jack the Ripper - story - references needed ==

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_the_Ripper

I wish to request references be cited in this story to the claim that the "canonical five" were prostitutes. This claim has been adequately disputed. Such a claim is hearsay even if it is considered to be part of the historical record. A claim such as this, without references perpetuates a potentially prejudicial stance, whereas it may be what popular journalism at the time claimed as being true, is now considered hearsay and requires references as to the origin(s) of this claim - or at the least, a disclaimer of some kind as to the legitimacy of such a claim. See "The Five" by Hallie Rubenhold, copyright 2019, Mariner books edition 2020.

NOTE: The preview of a request for references by appears to be unsupported. My edits not being accepted due to page protections.&nbsp;[[User:BobKat107|BobKat107]] ([[User talk:BobKat107|talk]]) 16:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|BobKat107}} Please discuss this on the article's talk page [[Talk:Jack_the_Ripper]] [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 16:53, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

:(ec){{u|BobKat107}}, try to discuss this at [[Talk:Jack the Ripper]], it's the place to start, and not protected. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 16:57, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|BobKat107}}, I found these previous discussions, you may or may not find them interesting: [[Talk:Whitechapel_murders#Prostitutes?]], [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/Archive_188#Whitechapel_Murders]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 09:01, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Edit count ==

Is there any way I can view my edit count?&nbsp;<span style="color:green"><b>LOMRJYO</b><sub>[[User:Lomrjyo|(About)]]</sub><sup> [[Special:Contributions/Lomrjyo|(contribs)]]</sup></span> 02:21, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Lomrjyo}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  At the top right corner of any page, click [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]].  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 02:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Lomrjyo}}, and welcome to the Teahouse! There are a couple ways to do this. For starters, if you're on desktop and go up to your 'Preferences' tab, you can view it under 'Basic information'. Likewise, for more advanced information, you can go to your 'Contributions' page (also up top if you're on desktop), scroll to the bottom, and select 'Edit count'. In your case, that would return [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Lomrjyo this webpage]. Hope this helps, and congratulations on 200 edits! <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 02:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::Warning: once you learn about xtools, you'll never stop checking, it's so satisfying. [[User:Elliot321|Elliot321]] ([[User_talk:Elliot321|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Elliot321|contribs]]) 06:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:::<small>HUGGLE ''check'' HUGGLE ''check'' HUGGLE ''check!'' Although I've managed to stop it now, thankfully. <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 09:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)</small>

== References ==
I am a newbie and I apparently have a problem with references and citing sources in the article named Fred Belloni. I have been reading several times about this subject and cannot seem to get it right. Thank you.&nbsp;[[User:Bello239|Bello239]] ([[User talk:Bello239|talk]]) 11:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

:It's not an article; it's a draft. It now has one long section. Within this, two assertions (or not) are referenced:

:*"He was the only one"
:*Either (A) "in the row of East Indies composers" or (B) "He was the only one in the row of East Indies composers".

:However, "He was the only one" is, by itself, meaningless: He was the only one ''what''? "[I]n the row of East Indies composers" doesn't state anything; "He was the only one in the row of East Indies composers" raises the question: Which row?

:I don't like to say this, but these two references are, as they stand, worthless.

:The rest of the section is unreferenced.

:[[William Walton]] is another article on a composer. It's much longer, and much better referenced. Length is not necessary; good referencing is. Please examine the article [[William Walton]] to see how it's done. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 13:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: draft is [[Draft:Fred Belloni]]. As Hoary wrote, ALL factual statements about Belloni must be supported by citations. Equally important, the style of writing is not encyclopedic. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 15:38, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Self vandalizing and reverting ==

If a user is vandalizing and then reverting those edit himself then what warning should be given?&nbsp;[[User:ExclusiveEditor|ExclusiveEditor]] ([[User talk:ExclusiveEditor|talk]]) 14:24, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|ExclusiveEditor}}, I would say still the same warning, as they're still vandalizing. Perhaps you could also say disruptive editing. <span style="text-shadow:red 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em">[[User:Bop34|βӪᑸᙥӴ]] • [[User talk:Bop34|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bop34|Contribs]]</span> 14:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{User talk:Fuhghettaboutit/template testing spot|ExclusiveEditor}} Hard to say without knowing the real specifics; looking at the edits, seeing how many and their contours; knowing the user name and studying what's going on. Maybe a tailored warning essentially saying "what the hell is X about" or maybe a block's in order. Can you disclose?--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 15:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Who is Tikashi6969? + Should I do not vandalize Wikipedia? ==

When I go to the old revision of "Tikashi6969" of the [[Emirates (airline)|Emirates]] on 8 February, there's an title "''is the Sh*tiest airline in the world. its overpriced and sucks. end of story.''" It later reverted at same UTC (22:42). On 10 February, I saw that "Tikashi6969" has been blocked without expiration (also as "indefinite"), as resulting vandalizing Wikipedia. Should I do not vandalizing Wikipedia and getting blocked indefinitely?&nbsp;[[User:Lkas123|Lkas123]] ([[User talk:Lkas123|talk]]) 15:55, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Lkas123}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  I do not know who "Tikashi6969" is, but they weren't here to improve the encyclopedia.  Their vandalism has been reverted, and the user has been blocked.  On the other hand, your edits look like you are acting in good faith to improve Wikipedia articles.  Keep up the good work!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:03, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::Well, yes, do not vandalize articles! I reverted your edit to [[Emirates (airline)]], as in my opinion, the wording was better before. However, I also consider that your edit was a good faith attempt to improve the article versus vandalism. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 16:06, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Article regarding historical/genealogical organization ==

I did some basic editing for an historical group I belong to, and apparently all of the edits were accepted.  Then I wrote a brief, original article about the umbrella organization that curates and guides these types of historical groups.  It's been in existence since 2002, and has wide breadth within the field of history and genealogy...and certainly does not market or fundraise in any way.  I linked it properly...it was tight. (Maybe someone could review it my finite history), and I immediately received a "this article has been flagged for instant deletion" from a wiki editor (Valdemar2018) who appears to be an expert in writing articles on insects...which is all good; but perhaps not the person to vet  the nature of my topic.  There did not seem to be an explanation about why my article was going to be deleted...not sure if it actually was deleted...but I'm wondering if perhaps I teed it up in the wrong location or something.  It certainly has significant relevance in juxtaposition to the many societies and organizations in wikipedia that come under its purview, so it did not seem logical at all...and happened almost instantly.  I "appealed" the instant deletion decision and made my case, and received the final note:

"the user page is not for to create articles, also the content is in your sandbox. Regards Valdemar2018 (talk) 05:57, 27 February 2021 (UTC)"

Anyway, just making the effort to add to the corpus of my area of expertise, with content that is not trivial, self-serving or profit-driven...but absolutely appropriate.  What am I missing?

Many thanks.

Barry C. Howard&nbsp;[[User:Barrychoward|Barrychoward]] ([[User talk:Barrychoward|talk]]) 15:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hello {{u|Barrychoward}}, and welcome to the Teahouse. Based on what I'm seeing at [[User:Barrychoward]], you have indeed written in the wrong place. That page is for, if you want, to write a little bit about who you are and what you do/want to do on WP. Start a [[WP:DRAFTS]] instead. You can just copypaste the current text for starters. Next, in no particular order, you need to get rid of the in-text external links, and apply the art of inline citations, see [[WP:TUTORIAL]], and consider the guidance at [[WP:NORG]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 15:31, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:Ok, userpage now gone, but if you want, you can ask for a so called [[WP:REFUND]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 15:33, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:I see now you made [[User talk:Barrychoward/sandbox]], good (forget the [[WP:DRAFTS]] bit). So, if this is to be accepted as a WP-article, [[WP:NORG]] is your hurdle. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 15:43, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::Turned one of your in-text external links to a reference. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 16:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:I have draftified the content (and left a detailed message at user's talk page about some relevant nstandards and how to submit to AfC).--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 16:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Is United's 777-200ER have been retired, like Delta Air Lines? ==
When I saw the [[United Airlines fleet]], there's something missing, there's no 777-200ER. United has 19 Boeing 777-200 (non extended range) and 55 Boeing 777-200ER, but when I saw, it was combined to non extended range version from 19 to 74 by Realbruno and the Realbruno's describe changes written "''United has 777-200 not 777-200er''". Please someone fixed it.&nbsp;[[User:Lkas123|Lkas123]] ([[User talk:Lkas123|talk]]) 16:30, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Lkas123}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  The best place to have a discussion about this article is on its talk page: [[Talk:United Airlines fleet]].  If you can, provide a published [[WP:RS|reliable source]] to support your suggestion.  I hope you and {{U|Realbruno}} (and others) can come to the appropriate [[WP:Consensus|consensus]].  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Having Trouble adding previous teams played to infobox basketball Biography  ==

Hi, Im editing a Basketball player bio page Aaron Pervis Williams and I need help with adding career history/previous teams played inside the info basketball biography template info box. The field is called 'years and teams'. I get an error message whenever trying to add information. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!&nbsp;[[User:Feed2wiki|Feed2wiki]] ([[User talk:Feed2wiki|talk]]) 17:53, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Feed2wiki}}, while editing the infobox of [[Aaron Pervis Williams]], you added a parameter named "years1,team1". But Infobox basketball biography does not support a parameter of that name. You can read [[Template:Infobox_basketball_biography/doc]] for a list of the parameters that it does support. They include "years1" and "team1", separately.  [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 18:10, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Submit a draft for review ==

Hello, I published an article on Wiki in spanish and now I have translated it into english. There are some differences between the spanish wiki editor that I may not understand. What should I do to submit the article for review here? I can't find a button where it indicates it. Thanks
--[[User:DianaMTancredi|DianaMTancredi]] ([[User talk:DianaMTancredi|talk]]) 18:19, 27 February 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:DianaMTancredi|DianaMTancredi]] ([[User talk:DianaMTancredi|talk]]) 18:19, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:Courtesy link: [[Draft:Fabiana Barreda]]. &nbsp; [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 18:31, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|DianaMTancredi}} I have added the submit button to your draft. For future reference, if your draft on the english Wikipedia does not have a submit button, you can place the code {{tlx|submit|subst=yes}} (as it appears when viewing this page) to it to submit for review. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 18:34, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Pre-translation cleanup ==

The article about my company's product ([[PolyAnalyst]]) presently has a cleanup tag. I have done some work to make it neutral, but it is hard for me to judge neutrality with my COI. The thing is, we are preparing to translate this article into five other languages (Russian, Chinese, Korean, French, and German), so I would like for it to be neutral first to aviod multiplying any potential bias problems by five. Is anyone here willing to help with the cleanup or verify neutrality? [[User:Sam at Megaputer|Sam at Megaputer]] ([[User talk:Sam at Megaputer|talk]]) 16:07, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Sam at Megaputer}} Since you have a COI, you should not be editing the article directly.  In the future, please post your suggestions at the article talk page ([[Talk:PolyAnalyst]]) with a {{tl|request edit}} template, and an uninvolved editor can assist you.   Thanks!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:: {{ping|GoingBatty}}: Thanks for cleaning up the formatting. You got any comments on neutrality? Those neutrality templates are supposed to facilitate cleanup, and not just hang there indefinitely as a badge of shame, but sometimes it feels like they are used that way. Any comments or edits that you would like to make on this subject are quite welcome. [[User:Sam at Megaputer|Sam at Megaputer]] ([[User talk:Sam at Megaputer|talk]]) 18:08, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Sam at Megaputer}} I'm much better at cleaning up formatting than determining what and how to rewrite to resolve the {{tl|Paid contributions}} tag that {{U|Theroadislong}} added a few weeks ago.    Maybe Theroadislong will have some comments.  (I do wish the template had a date on it.)  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 21:49, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== How to have custom fonts on Wikipedia? ==

I want to make Wikipedia display fonts that I want.  NOT change the font that other people see, I just want to read it in a different font, specifically Fraktur.

How do I make it so that when I read Wikipedia, I see the German Fraktur font?  I have squat computer programming experience.&nbsp;[[User:KleinesMurid|KleinesMurid]] ([[User talk:KleinesMurid|talk]]) 21:50, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|KleinesMurid}} I haven't tried that before, but see [[Help:User style#Samples]].  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 22:15, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

==  UV Light is the source of the fields and unifys the forces: Unification and the handwritten imagination of a mind out of time the sea  ==
{{cot}}
UV Light is the source of the fields and unifys the forces as IT IS THE SOURCE OF ALL THE FIELDS
Einstein was wrong in so much that the speed of light is only a constant for large things and can not be applied to very small thigs such as electrons. Action of non local distance and conservation of the strangeness can be conserved at great distance with a rederivation of the Einstein equation so that we can express the need for all things to be translated in space equally including time and the speed of light and in such Cause and effect and planks distance becomes a relativistic quantity. This is easily done using Faradays constant as unit by which can express all things as relative by the inverse of the square of the distance 3 sq root (X2 - 5). I have uploaded some equations Ive jotted down and scanned in and I see you like science so lets see if you are one the 12 people Richard Feynman mentions in the 1964 Messenger lectures that ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND RELATIVITY AND QUANTUM PROPOSITIONS. If we assume by dropping mistaken axiomatic logical and adopt a more Mayan wisdom to our mathematics then we can begin to understand Magnetisms role as a frequency of UV radiation and in such establish a unity between matter at the Faradays constant as this is the only co-ordinate that has any axiomatical mathematical potential to unlock the laws of that which is very small and apply it to that which is very large. My discovery however poses a serious problem however as Im sure you will understand molecular chaos theory and magnetic fields very well. We have removed all lumps of stuff acting on the big lump of iron in the centre of our lovely planet so we can look more lovely as idiots. Oh what fun but here's the kicker....TRIANGLES WILL SWEEP OUT AT EQUAL DISTANCES AT EQUAL TIMES NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU YOU WORK TO PROVE THIS THE NULL HYPOTHESIS. So now the fields are different, what's more is that now the lumps are getting more UV CHARGE than they were and the atoms are now jiggling (as my brother in arms Feynman would say) and niggling wrong ,,,so jiggling wrong in the wrong place.
So now the ANGULAR MOMNRETUM has changed and tilted and you and I both know proof of a tilt in angular momentum would be hard to do in line with CAVENDISES weighing of us all so we would need another way to infer this, Lucky are we that you can tell a great deal about the surface tension and behaviour of a sphere by looking at its core. Ours has sped up since the nuclear era by 4.8 mph (or kmh I forget which I appologise)giving us the predicted outcome of a tilt in angular momentum.....CORE SUPER ROTATION
Now they are pissin about with Apollo 11 type missions to space in order to drain the val allen belt which is pretty easy but those muppets know nothing of high energy protons or how to calculate G magnetic flux in relativistic terms. Nor to they know how to calculate the Quantum flux of the martian bluberrie using relativistic multhiphase flow equations.
anyway Im sending this then Ill write out some equations scan them in and send them, over
A Beautiful Mind&nbsp;
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[[User:Feinsteinium77|Feinsteinium77]] ([[User talk:Feinsteinium77|talk]]) 22:56, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

: Umm... What language is this? Words look like English... --[[User:CiaPan|CiaPan]] ([[User talk:CiaPan|talk]]) 23:03, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|Feinsteinium77}} If this is about an article, discuss on that article's talk page.  Otherwise this may be [[WP:OR]] [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 23:05, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::I have blocked this editor because they are not here to build the encyclopedia. They are here only to promote their fringe theories. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 23:08, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== Merger deadlock ==

I recently started my first attempted merge proposal at [[Talk:Mosaic theory (litigation)]]. It's kind of a complicated one, but it felt important enough for me to try to do it. One of the editors I pinged for comment came back and—they were not happy (and rude). It's only us two on the talk page, and I think we're just going to be deadlocked with [[WP:NOCONSENSUS]]. What can I do (without seeming to [[WP:FORUMSHOP]])?&nbsp;—<u>''[[User:Wingedserif|Wingedserif]]''</u> ([[User talk:Wingedserif|talk]]) 14:56, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Wingedserif}} I was originally going to suggest putting in a request for comment, but the RFC pages says to NOT do that for mergers.  Instead, as [[Wikipedia:Merging#Notify involved users (optional)]] suggests, you can ping others who have edited the page in the past to comment. Good luck - hopefully you can come to an amicable resolution; [[User:Timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 23:29, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

== I am a new contributor. I have something in sandbox and not clear on how to get it moved out to start process. ==

&nbsp;[[User:Radicalmoney|Radicalmoney]] ([[User talk:Radicalmoney|talk]]) 23:47, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Radicalmoney}} I [[WP:MOVE|moved]] your sandbox to [[Draft:Mara Leveritt]] for you.  When you're ready to submit it (after converting the external links to references, for example), you can remove the {{tag|nowiki}} tags.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:11, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Credit discrepancies between album releases ==

Hello. I am doing some work on the article for the album ''[[Operation: Doomsday]]'' but there are significant differences in production, writing, and feature credits between the [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/umgAAOSwQl1f~fvL/s-l1600.jpg original 1999 Fondle 'Em Records vinyl release], the [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Q6IAAOSw1YNgFsbW/s-l1600.jpg 2001 Sub Verse Music re-release], and the [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2KIAAOSwB6JgNGJm/s-l1600.jpg 2008–present Metal Face Records re-release]. I would think that the best thing to do would be to use the writing and production credits from the original 1999 Fondle 'Em Records vinyl release, but I'm not sure if there is a specific way that Wikipedia says you're supposed to handle discrepancies between album credits.&nbsp;[[User:Hostagecat|Hostagecat]] ([[User talk:Hostagecat|talk]]) 23:35, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Hostagecat}} Hi there!  Posting on the article's talk page was the right thing to do.  It may take a few days for another editor to respond, so posting here an hour later was premature.  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Album article style advice#Personnel]] might provide some guidance.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:17, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
I was mostly wondering if there's like a WP: thing for it, like a rule standardized for all album articles. --[[User:Hostagecat|Hostagecat]] ([[User talk:Hostagecat|talk]]) 00:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== How to determine revert rule in articles ==

Hello. Just recently there have been a few seemingly non-constructive edits at the [[Khazar hypothesis of Ashkenazi ancestry]] page. I think that page may be under the 1RR rule (as opposed to the usual 3RR rule) but I am not sure. On some pages there is/has been a notification that shows when you are about to edit, informing you that 1RR is in effect, but on this page there seems not to be. How can I determine what the rule is there? Thank you very much.&nbsp;[[User:Skllagyook|Skllagyook]] ([[User talk:Skllagyook|talk]]) 23:54, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|Skllagyook}} see the banner on the talk page [[Talk:Khazar hypothesis of Ashkenazi ancestry]].  1RR is in effect.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 23:56, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|RudolfRed}} Thank you. I see it. [[User:Skllagyook|Skllagyook]] ([[User talk:Skllagyook|talk]]) 00:48, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Notability requirements ==

Hi There. Because of the rise in interest of Spacial Sound and my direct role in rebirthing Quadraphonic music creation, I have been asked to publish a wikipedia article. I have very cited multiple credible articles and have satisfied the criteria of:

1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.[note 1]
7. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.

i'm new to publishing on wikipedia, so any guidance would be helpful. thank you.&nbsp;[[User:Kamranv|KamranV]] ([[User talk:Kamranv|talk]]) 01:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Kamranv}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  I'm curious - who asked you to write the autobiography which is now at [[Draft:KamranV]]?  In the "Spacial Music" section, I suggest adding a reference for the first sentence and additional references for the second.  Thanks!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 01:57, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Image Question ==

When uploading an official cover art via "Upload file > Upload a non-free file" there is a required field that says "Author (author / copyright owner of the original work)". I was curious what I should do if I don't know who the author is. Should enter "unknown", "NA", or something else entirely? If I already entered something like "unknown" for an image would that be cause for the image to be removed later? Also, how specific should I be about where I found the image? Can I just say the website or should I provide a link?&nbsp;[[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 01:44, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|TipsyElephant}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  I would use the record label as the owner, and the full URL of where I found the image.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 02:01, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|GoingBatty}} What if the cover art is for a podcast? I guess use the network? But what if it's an independent podcast? [[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 02:04, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|TipsyElephant}} I would list the podcast as the owner of the cover art.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 02:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== WikiProject Banners ==

Someone recently pointed out to me that the class parameter for a Wikiproject banner is better left blank for Drafts and Redirects because those articles are likely to change in the future and the class is auto-populated simply by virtue of the article being in Draft or Redirect space. I was curious what the standard conventions for WikiProject banners in general, but I'm specifically interested in whether it would be better to have a shortened WikiProject banner for Categories and Files because they are unlikely to change, but would be auto-populated. Would a short banner without a class parameter be best or should the class be included? Or if it doesn't matter, what would you suggest? I would assume that it's best to keep a standard convention across a large number of articles so if I'm making sure it's one specific way for an entire WikiProject what would be ideal?&nbsp;[[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 18:33, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|TipsyElephant}}, please have a look over here, this might help [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia/Assessment]] [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 19:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|CommanderWaterford}} Thank you, but I looked over that page and it doesn't seem to say anything about whether I should include those classes or not. It says "For non-standard grades and non-mainspace content, the following values may be used for the class parameter", which implies that it's optional I guess. Is there a benefit to including the class? [[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 02:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
::Oh, never mind. There's a recommendation to ask somewhere else. Thank you! [[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 02:11, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Non base 10 numerical systems ==

Non base 10 numerical systems
Hello, I am new to wikipedia and want to create an article explaining numbering systems that are not base 10 and how those work and how to change those values into base 10. I searched for it, but I didn't find the thing that I wanted to write about. I'm just worried that I may have missed a page where the topic is written that I didn't find because I didn't put in the required keywords to find that search result. Is there anything I missed?&nbsp;[[User:Jsjsjjals83828|Jsjsjjals83828]] ([[User talk:Jsjsjjals83828|talk]]) 03:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:[[Positional notation]] and [[Decimal]] each have referenced content about systems that are not base 10. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 03:40, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Jsjsjjals83828}} [[:Category:Positional numeral systems]] has more related articles.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 03:44, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Policies/guidelines about overediting ==

Hi there! I just wanted to know whether there is any policy or guideline which says something like "in order to prevent the revision history of an article to become clogged up, editors should ensure that all the information they want to edit is done at once". Thank you! [[User:EvanTaylor1289|EvanTaylor1289]] ([[User talk:EvanTaylor1289|talk]]) 21:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Clarification - what I mean when I say "at once" is "in one edit as opposed to dozens of minor edits". [[User:EvanTaylor1289|EvanTaylor1289]] ([[User talk:EvanTaylor1289|talk]]) 21:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|EvanTaylor1289}} I agree with the comment in the essay [[Wikipedia:Editcountitis]] that a person shouldn't make lots of small edits to an article just to increase their edit count.  However, there can be times when it's beneficial or easier to make a few edits in a row to the same article.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 21:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:: [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] thanks! [[User:EvanTaylor1289|EvanTaylor1289]] ([[User talk:EvanTaylor1289|talk]]) 21:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Hey [[User:EvanTaylor1289|EvanTaylor1289]]. I am betting the germ of this post is an absurdity – and extreme example of this playing out – but "legitimate" reasons that I can think of for "chunking" edits include:
::# [[Chunking (writing)]];
::# (this is a big one) making sure that any changes that might be seen as controversial (and thus more likely to be reverted) are separated from any edits that are not, even if closely related in concept/form – so that if and when one is reverted, other edits the same reverter might not object to, are not roped in
::# (in the same vein) any reverts that may be re-reverted ("<s>revert last as ____, and copyedit</s>")
::# (another big one, though I don't know that it's well known) any edits that remove or add line spaces (or swap paragraphs, and similar), for the reason that they make it much, much harder to parse what was changed in the [[WP:DIFF|diff]] view – indeed when doing a copyedit, I will sometimes attempt to make all changes that avoid this in one edit, and do the spacing in the next, for just this reason (I have been reverted on this basis);
::# edits incorporating copied content from other articles, where the edit summary is used to [[WP:COPYWITHIN|provide the copyright attribution]] (and when fixing [[WP:RIA|missing attibution]]) for obvious reasons;
::# when removing copyvios, for separating distinct by copied source, as noted in the separated edit summaries;
::# Where you believe the edit summary is important for listing different tasks, not just for other editors' understanding, but so that you can see what you did, to review later (maybe years later) in an organized and non-haphazard fashion.
:::Best regards.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 01:04, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Some articles need so much work that it would be impossible to do everything in one massive edit. As long as Edit summaries identify what parts of the article was being revise, and a description of the edits, multiple edits should not cause problems for subsequent editors. Example: during raising [[Vitamin K]] to Good article, I made >100 edits. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 02:17, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:It is, however, possible to do a great amount in one massive edit (my own [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Teik%C5%8D_Shiotani&type=revision&diff=941739322&oldid=933621659 most recent example]). -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 08:19, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Wow! This has received many replies! The reason I asked the question os because I noticed that someone had done >100 minor edits to one page in a row. I THINK this should be covered by [[User:David notMD|David notMD]]‘s response though
:Sometimes I copy a section to my Sandbox, work there, then replace the original with the revised. I would not do an entire article. In the example you mention, if truly minor edits, sounds like someone running up their edit count. To what end? [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 04:15, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== BOXING ==

Here you list Willard Bean as World Champion' ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard_Bean ). Why do you not have  his name listed here? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_middleweight_boxing_champions )                                                                  PLEASE CORRECT.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/69.11.65.11|69.11.65.11]] ([[User talk:69.11.65.11|talk]]) 05:47, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
: Hi IP 69.11.65.11. The content about this in [[:Willard Bean]] states as follows:<blockquote>In 1905, Bean claimed the title of middleweight champion of the world. Although it was not until 1910 with the formation of the International Boxing Union that world title fights were created, until that time champions were generally recognized by public acclamation. The World Middleweight boxing champion at the time was Tommy Ryan.</blockquote>Perhaps the reason Bean isn't listed in [[:List of world middleweight boxing champions]] is because he only ''claimed'' the title, and wasn't ''recognized'' as the world champion at the time. If this isn't correct, then you can discuss this at [[:Talk:Willard Bean]] or [[:Talk:List of world middleweight boxing champions]] and see what others might think. You should, however, be prepared to [[:WP:VNT|provide a citation to a reliable source]] which supports such any changes you want made to either article. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 06:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== no follow backlinks ==

Sir, may I get a no-follow backlink from Wikipedia. My content is full of information and it is valuable.&nbsp;[[User:Rishi1010|Rishi1010]] ([[User talk:Rishi1010|talk]]) 07:06, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:If you are asking about healthynord.com, you may still not add that to any Wikipedia articles. Please read the information on your user talk page. It contains links (the words in blue) to explanations. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 08:10, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Instructions I don't understand ==

I was curious what the instructions at the top of this article mean [[:Category:Podcast logos]] and why you're supposed to do it. I looked through the current files and it appears that only a few follow the instructions. So why should anyone follow those instructions if simply adding the category like you would on a regular page does the same thing?&nbsp;[[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 01:38, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

:I think you intended to say: "I was curious what the instructions at the top of [[:Category:Podcast logos]] mean and why you're supposed to do what they tell you to do." If this was indeed your intention: Because, I think, doing so not only adds the file to the category but also adds a warning template to it. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 08:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== dead link ==

may I change the dead link to a good one?&nbsp;[[User:Rishi1010|Rishi1010]] ([[User talk:Rishi1010|talk]]) 06:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
: Hi {{u|Rishi1010}}. Please see [[:WP:DEADREF]] for more on this, but a dead link isn't necessarily removed just because it's dead. So, if by "good one" you mean that you found an archived version of the dead link, then you can add that to the original citation containing the dead link. If, on the other hand, you mean you find a new source that supports the same content as the dead link, then you can add that as a "new" citation in addition to the dead link one. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 06:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

:If by "a good one" you mean a link to healthynord.com, then no you may not. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 08:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Create page ==
How do I create a page?&nbsp;[[User:Mrcow20069|Mrcow20069]] ([[User talk:Mrcow20069|talk]]) 08:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Mrcow20069}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.  Successfully creating a new article(not just a "page") is one of the hardest things to do here on Wikipedia.  It takes much time, effort, and practice.  You will greatly increase your chances of success if you gain experience first by editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. That will help you learn about some of the various policies and guidelines that there are. Users who dive right in to creating articles often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as something they worked hours on is mercilessly edited and even deleted by others.  I don't want to see you have bad feelings so I would recommend that you not dive in just yet.  It would be a good idea for you to use the [[WP:ADVENTURE|new user tutorial]].
:If you still want to attempt to create a new article, you should read [[WP:YFA|Your First Article]], and then, if the subject meets the Wikipedia definition of [[WP:N|notability]] and you have at least three independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage, you can create and submit a draft using [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== How to create new Infobox ?  ==

Can someone tell me how Infobox are create on WP.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/223.178.144.61|223.178.144.61]] ([[User talk:223.178.144.61|talk]]) 11:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hi IP editor, Infoboxes are one application of [[Help:Template|templates]] in articles. As such, you can find instructions on using them in on the template pages, for instance [[Template:Infobox_person#Usage]]. --[[:User:Paul Carpenter|Paul]]  &#10092;[[:User talk:Paul Carpenter|talk]]&#10093; 12:18, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== (Resolved) Does removal of promotional information amounting to about half the article require a talk page discussion? ==

I removed some promotional information from the Wikipedia article about [[FIITJEE]] this morning, and returned less than an hour ago to remove some negative information from the article, because the newspapers that were used to cite the information had redacted the negative information and hence I couldn't find evidence that the information was true. I was reverted entirely, and was told to discuss the removal on the talk page. I've started a discussion there, but I want to know whether removal of promotional information like in this case requires a discussion. [[Special:Contributions/45.251.33.44|45.251.33.44]] ([[User talk:45.251.33.44|talk]]) 11:42, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hello IP, I believe your removal of info was correct. It was reverted because often large removals of text from articles by non-registered users (IPs), are flagged as potential vandalism, and can be reverted as such, as yours was. The text you removed was blatantly promotional, and while I appreciate you removing it, it is generally preferable to remove as little as possible and reword as much as possible. I've added a tag that adds the page to a list of articles that read like an advertisement, so hopefully someone should help clean it up, but in the meantime I suggest you don't try to remove info until Serols agrees. Thanks, <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 12:06, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{Resolved|This issue has been resolved. I now understand that I could have avoided this issue by not making big changes without any discussion. [[Special:Contributions/45.251.33.44|45.251.33.44]] ([[User talk:45.251.33.44|talk]]) 12:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)}}

== Wikipedia  ==

Hi I'm new to Wikipedia how does this work&nbsp;[[User:Paris Benjamin|Paris Benjamin]] ([[User talk:Paris Benjamin|talk]]) 13:14, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hello {{u|Paris Benjamin}}. Try [[WP:ADVENTURE]] and [[WP:TUTORIAL]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 13:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Wikipedia  ==

Hi I'm new to Wikipedia&nbsp;[[User:Sho majozi|Sho majozi]] ([[User talk:Sho majozi|talk]]) 13:08, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hello and welcome! Do you have a question about editing? [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 13:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== How to request for new article ?  ==

Hello , Many subject and issue do not have articles on WP.I am from India's Maharashtra state.I think many issues about around deserve articles.I think WP is not just place to make article about notable peoples ,film stars and politicians.As WP community we must have to make articles on the issue and burning topics like about farmers bad situation in Maharashtra , Women's rights.I am mentioning , suggesting some title and topics should deserve article - Agriculture in Maharashtra , Farmers suicide in Vidharbha , North Maharashtra (Geographical region of northern Maharashtra) , British rule in Maharashtra , Maharashtra wildlife , Wildlife sanctuaries in India , Rivers of India , Droughts in Maharashtra , Crime against womens in India , Domestic violence against womens in India / Maharashtra , Police corruption in Maharashtra , Corruption in Government offices in Maharashtra/India.If WP community think some of these topics deserve seperate article please create it.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/223.178.144.61|223.178.144.61]] ([[User talk:223.178.144.61|talk]]) 10:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.  You can request that articles be created at [[WP:RA|Requested Articles]], though there is a severe backlog there, to the point where it will be a long time before your requests are acted on, if ever.  The best way to see that an article is written is to do it yourself using [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]] and after you read [[WP:YFA|YOur First Article]], but you will want to learn about the process first, and maybe edit some existing articles, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

[[User:331dot|331dot]] Thanks brother for responding all the way from my favourite country England.I did this before reading your suggestion.I created a article about a small village in India - Kothadi but so far it is not live.You can see it : [[Draft: Kothadi]].If it takes so much time I start feeling I'm wasting my precious time.If some educated folks like join me to create these articles it'll be great.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/223.178.144.61|223.178.144.61]] ([[User talk:223.178.144.61#top|talk]]) 10:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Great start on a valid-looking article. Needs ref for the population and the literacy information. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 12:40, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:Drafts don't go "live" automatically. If you think your draft is ready, you can use this link: [[WP:SUBMIT]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 13:36, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Wikipedia  ==

Hi I'm new to Wikipedia how does this work&nbsp;[[User:Rose Bulma|Rose Bulma]] ([[User talk:Rose Bulma|talk]]) 13:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Rose Bulma}} try [[Help:Introduction]] or [[WP:ADVENTURE|the Wikipedia Adventure]] [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 13:38, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== What is [[Template:Reviewing request]]? ==

Can't find much more info on [[Template:Reviewing_request|this]] template I stumbled across (can't remember what page I saw it on) and just wondering what it's used for and can you still edit an article that has it? Is it requesting review of unpatrolled new page and if not is there a template for that or just something that you wait for until page comes up in page curation queue? -- [[User:HistoricalAccountings|HistoricalAccountings]] ([[User talk:HistoricalAccountings|talk]]) 13:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:HistoricalAccountings|HistoricalAccountings]] ([[User talk:HistoricalAccountings|talk]]) 13:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|HistoricalAccountings}} The template is part of a series for standard stuff in discussions on Wikipedia. It is probbably intended to serve as a temporary status notification for request-like noticeboards such as [[WP:RFPP]] so that others are aware that somebody is looking into the issue, to reduce the number of times where two admins try to decide on a (very complicated) request simuntaiously.[[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 13:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|Victor Schmidt}} Thank you, couldn't figure it out. Is there a template that can be added to a new page that hasn't been reviewed/patrolled yet or may have been overlooked or is that just something you wait out? -- [[User:HistoricalAccountings|HistoricalAccountings]] ([[User talk:HistoricalAccountings|talk]]) 13:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|HistoricalAccountings}} unreviewed pages end up on [[Special:NewPagesFeed]] and can be filtered from there. You don't need to put some special tag on them. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 13:47, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Where to post/get help with a suspected case of [[WP:Citogenesis]]? ==

What is the right place on Wikipedia to either record or get help with investigating a suspected case of citogenesis? The information in question was added in 2007, uncited. Since then, a number of places have repeated the information in extremely close phrasing to that on Wikipedia, but I cannot find a single source from before 2007 that mentions it. 

I strongly suspect citogenesis, but am unsure what the procedure is to "prove" it or add this to a list. There *are* what we would usually consider "reliable sources" that share the information, so I am concerned that the information might end up back on Wiki again, this time cited. Thanks for your help!&nbsp;[[User:Ganesha811|Ganesha811]] ([[User talk:Ganesha811|talk]]) 23:35, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Ganesha811}}. If this really is a case of citogenesis that's gone undetected for 14 years, it sounds like it's going to be a mess to deal with. For reference, would you mind linking the article and specifying the relevant citation(s)? <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 23:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
:: Yes, for sure! So the article in question is [[Joseph Bazalgette]]. Earlier today I removed ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Bazalgette&diff=1008680016&oldid=1008642379&diffmode=source diff]) a paragraph with a story about him planning of London's sewers. Another editor had earlier marked it with some citation-needed tags. The info was added by [[User:SmokeyTheCat]] in 2007 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Bazalgette&diff=138143546&oldid=137380163&diffmode=source diff]), who seems to have been a fairly prolific user at the time, but has been inactive since 2015. 

::As I said, I cannot find *any* reliable sources that include this anecdote from before 2007. That is not to say that none exist, but I looked for about 45 minutes today using Google Books, JSTOR, and other resources. On the other hand, post-2007, there are sources that seem to have this story included, often using phrasing ''extremely '' close to the wiki source. From the [https://www.ice.org.uk/what-is-civil-engineering/what-do-civil-engineers-do/london-sewer-system Institution of Civil Engineers], from ''[https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-wiki-man-25-april-2009 The Spectator]'', from [https://www.thehindu.com/thread/reflections/great-cities-always-have-growing-pains/article28757873.ece The Hindu], from the [https://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/discover/how-bazalgette-built-londons-first-super-sewer Museum of London] (in modified form). There are also several books on Google Books from this decade with the same story, such as [https://books.google.com/books?id=faLTDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA170&dq=bazalgette+sewer+%22Unforeseen%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGy8qk5IPvAhWIvp4KHXZRAnsQ6AEwBnoECAYQAg#v=onepage&q=bazalgette%20sewer%20%22Unforeseen%22&f=false these] [https://books.google.com/books?id=KFvABgAAQBAJ&pg=PA58&dq=bazalgette+sewer+%22Unforeseen%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGy8qk5IPvAhWIvp4KHXZRAnsQ6AEwB3oECAkQAg#v=onepage&q=bazalgette%20sewer%20%22Unforeseen%22&f=false two], both about 'creative thinking.'

::There are innumerable contemporary committee reports and whatnot that show up about Balzagette and his sewers, but none of them mention the specific calculation that was given on Wiki. In particular, none of them contain that specific quote, which since it is supposedly a direct quote should be easier to find. This is a long post, but I hope it adequately covers why I think this is citogenesis. Thank you for your help, {{u|TheTechnician27}} [[User:Ganesha811|Ganesha811]] ([[User talk:Ganesha811|talk]]) 00:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

:::{{re|Ganesha811}} Well, I definitely see your point, and it's a worrying one (I also see you likely found it through the r/TIL post, which somehow got 90k+ upvotes for an uncited piece of trivia in a Wikipedia article; classic r/TIL). I found [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Great_Stink_of_London/OvwSDQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=We%E2%80%99re+only+going+to+do+this+once+and+there%E2%80%99s+always+the+unforeseen+joseph+bazalgette&printsec=frontcover this book] from 2001 but, unfortunately, no instance of that quote anywhere. In the meantime, I've placed the offending material on the talk page for ease of access, and I'm going to try to track down an expert from a relevant WikiProject in the hopes they'll be able to provide a pre-2007 source. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 01:06, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

::::In the meantime, I've been looking for sources, and Aline van Duyn, writing for the  ''Financial Times'', seems to have really messed up on this one: their 2009 article [https://www.ft.com/content/ad167a32-ed72-11dd-bd60-0000779fd2ac "Insight: Accounting for unforeseens"] reads: "When planning the sewage system, the engineer “took the most dense population, gave every person the most generous allowance of sewage production and came up with a diameter of pipe needed. He then said ‘Well, we’re only going to do this once and there’s always the unforeseen.’ So he doubled the diameter to be used,” '''according to a Wikipedia entry.''' [emphasis mine]" Thankfully, they at least attribute it, but you'd really think that if it isn't cited and you can't find anything to attest to it that you wouldn't even include it in your article. Mercifully, that ''does'' tell us something, though: in 2009, the markets editor for the ''Financial Times'' likely couldn't find a source for this quote or event, which definitely makes this more suspect. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 01:26, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:<span style="font-size:75%;">@[[:User:Ganesha811|Ganesha811]], [[:User:TheTechnician27|TheTechnician27]]:</span> I have located the content in a book, word-for-word, from [https://books.google.com/books?id=sYhNAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA14 here] (see content started at the very end of page 13, and spilling over through the first paragraph of page 14). However, there were two editions – a first in 1996 and a second in 2009, i.e., pre- and post-dating the addition of the content to the article. So, it could be unattributed plagiarism and infringement of the article, only included in the 2009 edition's content seen at the posted link. A post to [[WP:RX]] would seem to be in order, asking if someone can access and is willing to check the 1996 edition.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 06:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{u|Fuhghettaboutit}}, thank you. I was able to locate a version of the 1996 edition online through a friend's academic account and it did not have the anecdote included. I suspect the author plagiarized from Wiki for the 2009 edition. [[User:Ganesha811|Ganesha811]] ([[User talk:Ganesha811|talk]]) 20:49, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
:::In such a context, I would remove it from the text, and leave a commented-out note explaining what happened. "If you want to restore this anecdote to the article, you must cite it to a source from before 2007." [[User:DragonflySixtyseven|DS]] ([[User talk:DragonflySixtyseven|talk]]) 18:06, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::::{{u|DragonflySixtyseven}}, that seems reasonable. Good notion! [[User:Ganesha811|Ganesha811]] ([[User talk:Ganesha811|talk]]) 14:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Removing of red flag From Tess Onwueme page ==
{{courtesy link|Osonye Tess Onwueme}}  

Most sorry about the Copyright links to the external homepage and any other problematic issues and errors indicated, I am New to Wiki posting and not familiar with your rules. Please, I would like the unacceptable changes I made removed Or revert to the previous Wiki content.
Will greatly appreciate your restoring the Wiki page content with your red flag alert removed. 
Thanks for your understanding.&nbsp;[[User:Ginger Weird Man|Ginger Weird Man]] ([[User talk:Ginger Weird Man|talk]]) 16:47, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Ginger Weird Man}} the infringing text has already been removed from the current page revision, we are currently waiting for an admin to [[WP:REVDEL|delete the infringin revisions]]. Until then, the red bordered box at the top has to stand. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 17:38, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::It is done. Please be aware, [[User:Ginger Weird Man|Ginger Weird Man]], that the copyright issue was not the links you added, but the ''content'' that was copied from the links. We cite sources to verify information, but the information must be written in our own words (and not just at a [[WP:CLOP|surface level]]). Thank you for understanding.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 17:59, 27 February 2021 (UTC) P.S. The reverting user did not post a notice giving information on the infringement issue, so I have done so at your talk page using the template {{tl|uw-copyright-new}} (nudge, nudge; wink, wink @ {{U|Cabayi}}).--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 18:09, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{hp|Fuhghettaboutit}}[[Special:Diff/1009216007]] ??? [[User:Cabayi|Cabayi]] ([[User talk:Cabayi|talk]]) 22:10, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::::<span style="font-size:75%;">@[[:User:Cabayi|Cabayi]]:</span> Sorry bout that. When I scanned the page (obviously too quickly) I was looking for a section header and missed it under the series of escalating warnings for a variety of matters. Of course your notice's "[[Image:Copyright-problem.svg|15px]]" should have alerted me, even on my hasty look!--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 15:46, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== my draft on Michael Koutsilieris was rejected ==

Kindly send me some advise on upgrading my draft, I cant comprehend why it was considered similar to advertisent. Dr. Koutsilieris is a distinguished scientist and has many requests from people that are doing research on his work for biographical information. Please explain how I can proceed.
I have studied wikipedia articles and I cannot locate the mistakes I have made.&nbsp;[[User:Kkmk mani|Kkmk mani]] ([[User talk:Kkmk mani|talk]]) 15:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Kkmk mani}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.  You have done a good job of writing about who Dr. Koutsilieris and what he has done.  A Wikipedia article, however, must do more than that.  A Wikipedia article about a person must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] '''with significant coverage''' have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:BIO|a notable person]].  You've cited what he has done, but not what others choose to say about him- that's what the article needs to summarize.  
:When you say "Dr. Koutsilieris is a distinguished scientist and has many requests from people that are doing research on his work for biographical information"; I would ask if you are associated with or work for him?  If so, you will need to review [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] and [[WP:PAID|paid editing]] for information on formal disclosures you may be required to make.  If people just want biographical information on him, does his employer not have such information on a website? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:49, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Kkmk mani}}  There is also quite a bit of unsourced information in the draft: his birth date/birth place/children's names, scientific interests, memberships in many societies, and the editorial board section.  If the information isn't included in an independent reliable source, then it should be removed from your draft.  Thanks!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 15:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply to|Kkmk mani}} Also, minutia such as his "license no." isn't necessary in the article.  Unsourced phrases such as "enthusiastically accepted" and "highly successful" seem like an advertisement.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:03, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much!! I will try again!! Very helpful. @GoingBatty  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kkmk mani|Kkmk mani]] ([[User talk:Kkmk mani#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kkmk mani|contribs]]) 16:16, 28 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Hampton University Notable Alumni Section Editing Issue ==

I tried to add a notable alumni under education and now there is an issue with this section. Was wondering what went wrong, how do I fix the education section and how do I avoid this problem in the future?&nbsp;[[User:Soulcontroller|Soulcontroller]] ([[User talk:Soulcontroller|talk]]) 14:36, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Soulcontroller}} {{fixed}} - each {{tl|Alum}} template needs to be on its own line in order for the table to be formatted properly.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 14:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@GoingBatty I added an alumni again and messed up the table’s format. I created a separate alum template and thought I placed it where it should be alphabetically.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Soulcontroller|Soulcontroller]] ([[User talk:Soulcontroller#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Soulcontroller|contribs]]) 16:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Fixed. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 16:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== "salt" in the Wikipedia context? ==

Im involved in my first AfD process. In the discussion, people are referring to "salt", as in "consider salting" as if it's a type of page deletion.
So, the stupid question: What is "salt" in this context?&nbsp;[[User:Rklahn|Rklahn]] ([[User talk:Rklahn|talk]]) 21:17, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Rklahn}} "Salt" refers to preventing the creation of an article in the first place, as in "salting the earth" to keep plants from growing. Articles are salted if they are repeatedly created and continually do not meet guidelines. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:29, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::Makes perfect sense. Thanks for the quick answer. [[User:Rklahn|Rklahn]] ([[User talk:Rklahn|talk]]) 21:31, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Rklahn}} - See [[WP:SALT]].  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 21:58, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::::Also see [[Salting the earth]] for the historical meaning. Given the value of this product in ancient times, salting the land of a defeated enemy may have been more symbolic than functional. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 22:04, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::::[[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] I spent a long time trying to find [[WP:SALT]]. I think I know where I went wrong. It's a type of page protection, not a type of deletion. Hopefully, this discussion gets indexed, and the next editor has an easier time. [[User:Rklahn|Rklahn]] ([[User talk:Rklahn|talk]]) 22:20, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::{{u|Rklahn}}, here is a useful tip for finding policies, procedures and guidelines on Wikipedia. Type WP: in the search box, followed by a plausible keyword (in this case SALT). Most of the time, you can find what you want very quickly. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 23:15, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::{{User talk:Fuhghettaboutit/template testing spot|Cullen328}}. Apropos of your post above, I posted [[Help:WP search protocol]] last week, and was thinking of creating a short, associated info template for it. Your post struck me as approximately perfect for its text! (Even for including "(in this case ____)" as an fillable, optional parameter for tailoring the template's message.) Thanks.---[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 16:04, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::You are welcome, {{u|Fuhghettaboutit}}. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 16:53, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== Regarding The Daily Express ==

I know you want to be as unbiased as possible, but The Daily Express makes fake end of the world/world war 3 predictions and they make fake news everywhere with no proof and they even admitted to this in this quote: "[I run the paper] purely for the purpose of making propaganda and with no other motive." And you already blacklisted The Sun (Another fake news site) but the daily express is far worse, I believe The Daily Express should be blacklisted.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/98.101.158.202|98.101.158.202]] ([[User talk:98.101.158.202|talk]]) 16:22, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

:As already noted at [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources]]: "The Daily Express is ... considered generally unreliable."--[[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 16:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
::I still technically see this on the [[world war 3]] page.--[[Special:Contributions/98.101.158.202|98.101.158.202]] ([[User talk:98.101.158.202|talk]]) 16:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Welcome to the Teahouse, IP!  Could you please state specifically where you see The Daily Express listed on the the [[World War III]] article?  Thanks!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:40, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hello IP, the Daily Express is listed as an unreliable source [[WP:RSP|here]]. This is a result of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_299#Daily_Express_2000-2017_(Desmond_era) this] discussion, where it was deemed acceptable for non-controversial topics such as sport and entertainment, but an unreliable source for topics such as politics. <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 16:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

:Well if you could keep the GamerGate Paged biased, why not rewrite or delete that page.--[[Special:Contributions/98.101.158.202|98.101.158.202]] ([[User talk:98.101.158.202|talk]]) 16:44, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

::The Daily Express is not mentioned on the [[GamerGate]] page either, so it's difficult to determine what issue you are concerned about. In any case, the best place to raise any issue with a specific article is on the talk page of that article.--[[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 17:06, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== What's wrong with my edit to "Counties of the United Kingdom"? ==

I edited in a line about "vice-counties" to [[Counties of the United Kingdom]].

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Counties_of_the_United_Kingdom&oldid=1009417794

My addition was to show that as well as cereomonial and historical counties, there are also "vice-counties", which are not so well known, a type of geographic area for the United kingdom.  There is a page [[vice-counties]], and they are otherwise hard to find out about.

My edit was reverted by an experienced user because "did not appear constructive", and that user deleted my question about this from their talk page.

Have I done something wrong?  How should I get my edit restored or improved? -- I don't really accept the argument that this isn't information about types of county in the United Kingdom, or that my edits were anything but constructive.

Kind regards to all.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/88.15.26.86|88.15.26.86]] ([[User talk:88.15.26.86|talk]]) 16:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:I'm a bit puzzled as to why your question of the other editor was removed.  Your edit to the article may have been reverted because there was no citation. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:01, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

::I have accordingly reinstated the edit, and added a reference and a slight expansion.[[Special:Contributions/88.15.26.86|88.15.26.86]] ([[User talk:88.15.26.86|talk]]) 17:48, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Hey, IP editor, you did the right thing by adding a reference to Dandy, though the wikilink to [[vice-county]] didn't actually make that essential, and I wouldn't have reverted you myself. But I bet I've reverted other editors in areas I was not knowledgeable about, and felt a citation was necessary if it were to remain in.  It's great to see you flying the flag for Watsonian vice-counties; I spent much of my working life collating and disseminating biodiversity data from VC57 (Derbyshire). Regards, [[User:Nick Moyes|Nick Moyes]] ([[User talk:Nick Moyes|talk]]) 19:11, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


== State of the World Liberty Index lists the Star Wars Galactic Empire as Number One in Liberty ==

On the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_World_Liberty_Index I saw that someone had that day ADDED the "'''Galactic Empire'''" as a nation to the list, even though this is NOT a nation and is a Star Wars reference (a rather trollish one for anyone who knows anything about the Galactic Empire from Star Wars) I saw this as a griefing, I don't contribute to wikipedia but I do sometimes revert articles back to help keep griefers out. This is exactly what I did. I reverted the article back. I received a message from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Le_Deluge stating that: 

"Hello, I'm Le Deluge. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to State of World Liberty Index have been '''undone because they did not appear constructive'''. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. Thanks. Le Deluge (talk) 14:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC) "
https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2600:1700:CA30:CCF0:E59D:2012:8727:884E&diff=cur

I was directed here to ask questions. My question to wikipedia is do you understand that the Galatic Empire is both NOT mentioned in the source material and is NOT an actual nation in the world? I mean it seems like that should be very very obvious... I am not one to complain to wikipedia but this is laughably inexcusable.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:CA30:CCF0:E59D:2012:8727:884E|2600:1700:CA30:CCF0:E59D:2012:8727:884E]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:CA30:CCF0:E59D:2012:8727:884E|talk]]) 20:45, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:Welcome to the Teahouse!  Your willingness to revert obvious vandalism is greatly appreciated!  Unfortunately, {{diff2|1009272592|your edit}} accidentally many instanced of "freedom" to "(filtered)", which was probably the unconstructive issue that {{U|Le Deluge}} meant.  I have reverted the Galactic Empire vandalism in {{diff2|1009486083|this edit}}.  Thanks for letting us know!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 21:08, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

==World Square revision undeletion== 
[[World Square]] revision undeletion
[[User:Sphilbrick]] [[User talk: Sphilbrick|(talk)]] deleted the revision history of article [[World Square]] apparently due to copyright issue. It's not copyright and it is all gone all the hard work I put in. Please revert my edits and get everything back except for unintentional copyright is just the Future section of [[World Square]] using the article [https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/13-million-new-look-for-world-square-plaza-under-rooftop-canopy-20190515-p51nil.html this site]. --[[User:BugMenn]][[User talk:BugMenn|(talk)]] 21:51, 28 February 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:BugMenn|BugMenn]] ([[User talk:BugMenn|talk]]) 10:51, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:You should probably discuss this issue on the [[Talk:World Square|talk page]], first. Please also read the policy document about [[Wikipedia:Copyright violations|Copyright violations]] for more information - [[User:Cameron Dewe|Cameron Dewe]] ([[User talk:Cameron Dewe|talk]]) 11:13, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
::PS: Please check [[User talk:BugMenn|your talk page]] and follow what you have politely been told to do by [[User:Sphilbrick]], too. - [[User:Cameron Dewe|Cameron Dewe]] ([[User talk:Cameron Dewe|talk]]) 11:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
[[User:BugMenn|BugMenn]] Hi here Kundan Dhayade from India.you said someone deleted your edits.It could probably happened due to you copied lines from some other Websites's articles.copy paste WP don't allow.write everything in formal words in your language , do not copy exactly from website or book it's illegal under copyright law.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/223.178.144.61|223.178.144.61]] ([[User talk:223.178.144.61#top|talk]]) 11:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Bugmenn also contacted me on my talk page. I have provided an explanation of why rollback was used and what the editor can do to restore the non-copyrighted edits.--[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#000E2F;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span>]] 13:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
[[User:BugMenn]] Hi , I advise you to never copy paste from any website on WP.The from where you copy paste or write exact lines from their article is like stealing something from someone.You have to read their article , book and then rewrite it with your words in simple language on UK English.Not In American , Australian Eng and after writing site their website by editing their website link in {{tag|ref}}.Then no one will undo your edits.But the websites , books must be well known and famous like - New York Times , The guardian , BBC.These big websites have their reputation they don't write wrong things without research.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/223.178.144.61|223.178.144.61]] ([[User talk:223.178.144.61#top|talk]]) 15:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:IP user, [[World Square]] is about a location in Australia, so the preferred variety to use in that article would be Australian English. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 16:08, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== teahouse ==
what is the teahouse?&nbsp;[[User:R3daeret|R3daeret]] ([[User talk:R3daeret|talk]]) 20:14, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|R3daeret}} Welcome.  As it says at the top of the page: "A friendly place where you can ask questions to get help with using and editing Wikipedia" [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 20:18, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:: {{re|R3daeret}} You have come to a great place here. Wikipedia is a massive (and often confusing) technical edifice, but it is also a massive (and even more confusing) cultural development. Watching the Teahouse is one of the best ways to get a feel for the culture of Wikipedia.--[[User:Verbarson|Verbarson]] ([[User talk:Verbarson|talk]]) 20:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
::: {{re|R3daeret}}  I must, however, add a note of caution and say that anyone who makes silly edits, and contributes nothing constructive to this encyclopaedia, or removes good content, soon finds their user rights withdrawn. As you're on your final warning right now for doing a bit of that, do please take care when you next try to help out here. If you aren't sure - please come back and ask.  That's what we're here for! Regards, [[User:Nick Moyes|Nick Moyes]] ([[User talk:Nick Moyes|talk]]) 22:10, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

== getting this paragraph onto the TARDIS article ==

can i get help getting this paragraph onto the TARDIS article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARDIS). it keeps getting rejected due to either a lack of citations or original research, and i can't seem to get it accepted. so can someone please edit my paragraph and photo w/ description to make it acceptable for the article?

Inconsistencies between Props and Real Police Boxes

The prop has almost never been accurate to the real Police Box, its most accurate portrayal was in the Dalek films starring Peter Cushing where it is almost completely identical. the original prop is fairly close, but is noticeably smaller[1]. the free for use of public sign changed doors inconsistently throughout Patrick Troughton's run, starting from Evil of the Daleks (1967). The Shada box, used from 1976 to 1980[2] and inconsistently throughout the early eighties (notably Logopolis and Castrovalva 1981-2) is stockier with a completely flat roof, though it was steeped again for its appearance in Logopolis and Castrovalva. in 1980, a new prop was constructed from fibreglass[2] for The Leisure Hive (1980), and is now larger again with a firmer build, though still smaller than the genuine article. the 1996 TV movie is also slightly larger, and its windows, which normally have six panels with the two in the bottom corners being white or off-colour, this one has some panes in the wrong slots. the one on the right door is in the top corner and some have the off-colour panes directly adjacent to the other one.. the Eccleston/Tennant prop is much larger, and the panels/windows are almost square and take up much more space. This has caused many a joke where a character to comment on how "the windows are the wrong size" with the in-universe explanation being that the TARDIS is so old that the "bigger on the inside" has begun leaking out, causing the outside shell to grow. the original prop was navy blue, though on-screen it was grey as the show was in black and white at the time, and it was repainted to a lighter blue in 1972 which remained consistent (albeit some minor colour shifts) throughout the rest of the run. The 2005 prop is much greyer, with a green-yellowy twinge to it. The Smith Prop is a vibrant navy colour with an intense wood effect, while the Capaldi Prop turns this down significantly, making it a mostly solid blue. The Whittaker Prop returns to the 2005 Prop's colours, but re-adds the wood effect. Since the show's reboot in 2005, the dimensions have stayed identical with only minor alterations. The Hurt Prop, as seen in Day of the Doctor (2013) is essentially just the 2005 prop with sand and grime all over it and a few cracked windows. However, these inconsistencies don't just apply to the Doctor's TARDIS, as in Logopolis, both a real Police Box and the Master's TARDIS assume the Shada Box's proportions and in The Doctor, The Widow and The Wardrobe (2011) The Doctor finds a real Police Box that looks like his. Both of these situations were probably caused by budgetary constraints though, as it would be uneconomical to have many separate Police Box props in storage unused. The roof lamp has changed too, the original was rather accurate, while in season two it was replaced by a cheap plastic cylinder along with the whole roof being less steep. The Shada Box uses a generic lamp, while in its namesake story and a few others before and after it, it has a blue spinning police car lamp. The 2005 Prop uses a cylindrical lamp, while the Smith Prop has one from a ship (boat, not space-ship). None have ever gotten close to the real lamp, which would've been encased in a cylindrical cage with a dome on top.

then add picture named "Dinky Toy Police box" and its description (with alterations for brevity's sake) and add citations and the relevant links to where they are needed, and you're done! thanks in advance for helping me curate this paragraph for use in an article.&nbsp;[[User:WombleYT|WombleYT]] ([[User talk:WombleYT|talk]]) 22:36, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, {{u|WombleYT}}. Any content that has been contested must have a reference to a reliable published source, according the the core content policy [[WP:V|Verifiability]]. On your talk page, you concede that you have engaged in [[WP:OR|Original research]], which is forbidden by policy. Anything you add must comply with policy. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 22:47, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hi WombleYT. I think you now have the answer (again). It does not belong in its current state; it will not be added while it includes unsourced parts, and original research parts. It appears, though, to include a mix of verifiable hard facts, with citations already provided, that could be included, unsourced facts, without citations that might be sourceable (and thus might be includable if sourced), as well an overlay of analytical content – a synthesis of the facts used to state your own conclusions, as is properly forbidden. So, your path seems straightforward: as much as you want to keep it in as you've written it, accept that it cannot be; remove every part that isn't directly supported by a source. Voilà.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 00:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== Help resolving a dispute with another author ==

Hi there, I have been going back and forth with someone re: a biography of a living person. The person is using their wikipedia page which he wrote himself and he keeps exaggerrating things and changing things back whenever I offer an objective assessment. SHould he be allowed to write his own biography? How do I stop it from being reversed every time I make a change that is rooted in fact?&nbsp;[[User:Foodprofessor|Foodprofessor]] ([[User talk:Foodprofessor|talk]]) 01:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Foodprofessor}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please discuss the matter on the article talk page, [[Talk:Sylvain Charlebois]].  If that fails to achieve a [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]] as to what the article should say, there are [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]] channels available. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 01:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== Pending Changes problems ==

why do my changes go to pending review, when I'm extended confirmed

there are people with lower permissions that get [automatically accepted] when I have a large number of edits and mine go to [pending review]

this can be seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Steve_Smith_(cricketer)&action=history

this new user is reverting my edits while I get put to pending&nbsp;[[User:DiamondIIIXX|DiamondIIIXX]] ([[User talk:DiamondIIIXX|talk]]) 05:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:I have a theory that will probably get rejected by those that know better than me... but somehow your account skipped over [[WP:AUTOCONFIRM|Autoconfirmed]] and went directly to [[WP:XC|Extended Confirmed]] per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=User%3ADiamondIIIXX&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers the user log]... I'm wondering if Pending Changes is ignoring the implied Autoconfirmed and hence you are still being caught under PC protection. There is my 2 cents anyway. - [[User:Rich_Smith|<kbd style="color: Red;">Rich</kbd>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich_Smith|T]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Rich_Smith|C]]&#124;[[Special:EmailUser/Rich_Smith|E-Mail]]</sup> 06:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::{{yo|DiamondIIIXX}} (sorry, I gave a misleading reply just now, related to ''reviewing'' pending changes rather than ''editing'' a PC protected article. New attempt, with coffee inside me...)  There is a problem with pending changes – see [[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Pending Changes again|this thread]] at the Village Pump, and [[Wikipedia_talk:Pending_changes#Why_I_am_being_caught_up_in_this?|this thread]] at [[Wikipedia talk:Pending_changes]]. Those are the places to check to see what is happening with this issue, and maybe report that it's happening to you as well. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 07:53, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:::{{yo|Bonadea}} I was replying to your response when I got a merge conflict and found you removed it, haha. The issue was sent to [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275322 Phabricator] and has been listed as a bug - I raised the error in the wikipedia-help IRC. [[User:DiamondIIIXX|DiamondIIIXX]] ([[User talk:DiamondIIIXX|talk]]) 07:57, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== Filmography table request templates? ==

I know there's a template for requesting an infobox be added to articles. You add the request to the talk page. I haven't been able to find one for Filmography tables? Does one exist or a list of articles in need of one? -- [[User:HistoricalAccountings|HistoricalAccountings]] ([[User talk:HistoricalAccountings|talk]]) 09:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:HistoricalAccountings|HistoricalAccountings]] ([[User talk:HistoricalAccountings|talk]]) 09:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

==Tariq Shah Bahram==
{{FYI|Created section header.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 05:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)}}
Kindly please remove promotional materials and extra links from article (Tariq Shah Bahram). it's very kind of you if you do this to me, cause i don't know what's promotional material in my article. thank you very much.
it will be appreciated that my article is published and on public status on wikipedia. thank you very much.&nbsp;[[User:Waseem.nasimi|Waseem.nasimi]] ([[User talk:Waseem.nasimi|talk]]) 04:09, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Waseem.nasimi}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  I'm glad you posted your concern on the article talk page.  The sentence about his hobbies is unreferenced and could be considered promotional.  Also, please use the references and external links to create additional footnotes.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 05:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::It's actually [[Tariq Shah Bahrami]]. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 10:36, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== Viacom (1952-2006) to Watch ==

Can someone Add [[Viacom (1952-2006)]] to their watchlist, Because some unregistered user keeps on removing Viacom International from the Former names, when it's actually a true former name of the Company. I also recommend blocking the user Indefinitely for causing an Edit war.&nbsp;[[User:LooneyTraceYT|LooneyTraceYT]] ([[User talk:LooneyTraceYT|talk]]) 02:09, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|LooneyTraceYT}},welcome to the Teahouse - you can report a User for Edit Warring here [[WP:AN3]]. [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 11:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

==Backlinks==
how I can get dofollow backlinks from your website?&nbsp;[[User:Khus199|Khus199]] ([[User talk:Khus199|talk]]) 06:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
: Hi {{u|Khus199}}. It's not clear what you're asking. What are {{tq|dofollow backlinks}}? From your [[:Special:Contributions/Khus199|contribution's history]], it appears like you've been trying to add links to the "[[:WP:EL|External links]]" sections of some articles. but that the links you've added have been removed by others. You might want to take a look at [[:Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided]] and [[:Wikipedia:Spam#External link spamming]] for more information because the links you're trying to add do not seem to comply with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 06:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::{{u|Marchjuly}}, dofollow may be the opposite of [[nofollow]]. If so, the answer is that you don't. It's by design and on purpose. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 08:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:::I think {{u|Gråbergs Gråa Sång}} is right, and I wonder if there's some kind of external recommendation to get "backlinks" from Wikipedia articles right now. There's [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse&oldid=1009605212#no_follow_backlinks this] higher up on this page, and a couple of days ago I noticed [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shreesh003&oldid=1008976142 this].  It's not uncommon for new users to add spam links in good faith, but I haven't really seen this phrasing used. Three instances isn't very much of a pattern so probably a coincidence, but I'm mentioning it here in case others have noticed the same thing. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 12:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::::If there are "dofollowers" watching, see ''[https://www.seroundtable.com/google-links-wikipedia-seo-29996.html Google: Links From Wikipedia Does Nothing For Your Site & Has No SEO Value]'' [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 12:36, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::::{{u|Bonadea}}, this [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_1097#What_is_the_process_to_become_a_reliable_source] could be part of such a pattern. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 12:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==

[[Fiona Graham]] and [[Fukagawa Geisha]]

COI: First, I want to disclose that I have no financial or in-kind gain from editing Wikipeida. I will disclose that I am a fan, but these exist on both sides of the spectrum and these are the people who help build Wikipeida.

I am being accused of vandalism on the two pages mentioned, but in my opinion the two editors concerned are the ones doing the vandalism.

* The [[Fukagawa Geisha]] house has been featured in several major media outlets, including NHK, CNN, and the Wall Street Journal. There are plenty of other major news outlets writing about it as well. It should not be merged into the [[Fiona Graham]] article because it is a non-profit venture established by several local geisha, albeit [[Fiona Graham]] is the geisha mother. A lot of the arguments being forwarded by the other side seem to involve other editors that have nothing to do with me. My primary aim is to get a [[Fukagawa Geisha]] article up and add more information to the [[Fiona Graham]] page, so merging the "Geisha mother" section into [Fiona Graham]] article is fine with me.

* The prominence of the Wanaka Gym case is vandalism and should not be an entire section, in both the Japanese and English wikipedias. It is rarely mentioned in any article about Fiona Graham beyond articles about that court case, yet most of the editors arguing with me seem to have a bone-of-contention on that topic (despite the fact that I included the case in a paragraph myself in my article).

* If you look at the history of Japanese version of the Fiona Graham article, you can see that several non-Japanese editors (Ineffablebookkeeper, IP addresses etc...) repeatedly revert any new information that is added to the article, being unconstructive and reducing the usefulness of the article. Their main aim in both the English and Japanese versions seems to be to increase the prominence of the Wanaka Gym case. Japanese editors always seem to try and change edits back to the original version.

They need to be constructive towards wikipedia:

* Wikipedia is about constructive article building. [[Fukagawa Geisha]] has received a lot of media attention in major global news outlets and hence deserves a page on Wikipedia. [[Fiona Graham]] has a lot more going on in her life than Wanaka Gym, and not only does the court case not deserve its own section, but there is so much more about her life that should be added but the editors keep reverting.

* Considering a large number of edits (of opposing party) seem to come from IP addresses or English speaking accounts, I consider them to be more resembling vandalism, whereas my role is a fan with no material gain.

[[User:Geicraftor|Geicraftor]] ([[User talk:Geicraftor|talk]]) 04:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:Geicraftor is likely a Fiona Graham sockpuppet. She has been at it for over ten years now; see the talk page of her article for detailed backstory. Also, regarding "Japanese editors always seem to try and change edits back to the original version." -- per [[WP:DUCK]], these editors are most likely sockpuppets of Graham herself. They are all SPAs that push the same point of view on the article; a POV that just so happens to be the same as Graham's. Furthermore, Graham has been on this point about "my trouble with Wanaka Gym is irrelevant!" for all these years, so it's getting super obvious that when a new account, editing in JST, shows up and tries to remove it, it's our friend herself. Finally, the media attention she mentions is usually puff pieces that are designed as promotion rather than appearing to be any serious journalistic in her work. [[Special:Contributions/124.197.54.156|124.197.54.156]] ([[User talk:124.197.54.156|talk]]) 07:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

::{{U|Marchjuly}} has told you at [[Talk:Fukagawa_Geisha]], IP, to knock off the name-calling. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 13:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:{{U|Geicraftor}}, this can be discussed on the articles' talk page. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 13:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== Citations in cast list ==

How do you had citations in movie pages that have cast lists. Seems like you can't use the visual editors and have to use basic coding. Also, how do you create new sections such as "reception" once the movie comes out&nbsp;[[User:Nerdpantz|Nerdpantz]] ([[User talk:Nerdpantz|talk]]) 14:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Nerdpantz}}, welcome to the Teahouse. You should be able to still add citations through the visual editor with its {{button|Cite}} button. To create a new heading, just go to a new line and on the editing toolbar, change "Paragraph" to "Heading". —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 14:22, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== Cite book with two ISBNs ==

Hello again, Teahousers.  I am writing the [[MOS:BIB|List of Works]] in an article, and trying to cite a book that has two ISBNs: one for the print version and the other for online.  The [[Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lists_of_works#ISBNs|Manual of Style]] says to "provide the ISBN of one or more editions when doing so seems to be helpful", but I just can't see how to do this using {{tl|cite book}}.  It only appears to support a single ISBN.  Am I missing something?  Or is there a preference for which of these ISBNs to use?  --[[User:Gronk Oz|Gronk Oz]] ([[User talk:Gronk Oz|talk]]) 09:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Gronk Oz}}, The doc of the template Cite Book refers to "Use the ISBN actually printed on or in the book." You could perhaps add it via Template ISBN. [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 11:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|CommanderWaterford}} that makes sense when using it as a reference.  But in this case, it is being used in a list of published works instead.  I suppose as you say, I just need to add them manually with descriptions. Thanks.--[[User:Gronk Oz|Gronk Oz]] ([[User talk:Gronk Oz|talk]]) 14:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== Were Nagant M1895 used by the Ottoman Empire? ==

I have seen some historically accurate tv shows about the ottoman empire where they featured the Nagant M1895 revolver, was the revolver ever used by the ottoman empire and if so why isn't the Ottoman Empire featured in the Users list on the Wikipedia page about the M1895 revolver?&nbsp;[[User:Mig Pilot|Mig Pilot]] ([[User talk:Mig Pilot|talk]]) 12:53, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:Probably because none of the volunteers here knew that. If you have sources you can add it. [[User:Britmax|Britmax]] ([[User talk:Britmax|talk]]) 12:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::Courtesy [[Nagant M1895]] 7-shot revolver. Made for, and later by, Russia. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 15:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

==Writing your own story==
How do you write your oen story on Wikipedia&nbsp;[[User:Rose Bulma|Rose Bulma]] ([[User talk:Rose Bulma|talk]]) 17:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

How do you talk to a person on Wikipedia likea celebrity&nbsp;[[User:Rose Bulma|Rose Bulma]] ([[User talk:Rose Bulma|talk]]) 17:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, {{U|Rose Bulma}}, and welcome to the Teahouse. We don't have "stories" here, we have encyclopaedia articles. Anybody is welcome to create a draft article about a [[WP:notable|notable]] subject by using the [[WP:articles for creation|articles for creation]] process; however, creating an article is ''much'' more difficult than it looks, and hundreds of attempts by inexperienced editors are declined for rework, or deleted, every day. My advice is not even to try it until you have had several hundred edits to existing articles, that are accepted as improvements (i.e. they don't get reverted by another editor). That way, you are likely to have some understanding of how Wikipedia works before you try it. 
:If by "your own story", you mean "an article about you", then my advice is not to try it, ever: [[WP:autobiography|autobiography]] is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia, and you are likely to have a frustrating and miserable time if you try it. 
:Finally, there are no celebrities on Wikipedia (apart from as the subjects of articles): there are only editors. Some of the editors might happen to be celebrities in the world, but here on Wikipedia they are only editors. The only kind of talking to them that is appropriate is when collaborating to improve the encyclopaedia: that is what we are all here for, nothing else. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:45, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== Feedback on potential article contribution  ==

Hi everyone, 
I am hoping to add a bit of information to the police abolition page, with emphasis on cities that have undertaken the first steps to police abolition. My contribution is in my sandbox at the moment and I would love to hear any feedback on the content. Here is the link to my sandbox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Evb16/sandbox&nbsp;[[User:Evb16|Evb16]] ([[User talk:Evb16|talk]]) 15:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:OMG. It cites no sources at all. Where did all that content come from? A Wikipedia article needs to be based on the sources that it cites. The (relatively) easy way to write an article is to find all the sources you will need, read them thoroughly, then write the article based in what they say, citing them as you go. Very much more difficult, is to write your own opinions and recollections, then go through what you've written, trying to find a source for each statement. I recommend abandoning what you've written, and starting again from the beginning, using the method I've recommended above. It will save you a lot of effort. But I know from experience that a new contributor is unlikely to take that advice. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 17:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

More than once you have written "occording to the ''New York Times''... Go to those ''Times'' articles and use your own words to repeat what was written – but don't add in what wasn't written there, such as your own opinion, or what you heard from someone. Then cite those articles. Use reference brackets, and between those brackets put in the article name, the name of the newspaper, and page number the article appeared on. Find other published sources for what you want to say. If the newspaper articles are online you can add an External Link for those who want to read the entire article, but for Wikipedia articles a condensed version of what was written is often best, for many people feel overwhelmed when seeing a long article. 

It's good that you want to edit Wikipedia articles, and that you reached out for help. It takes some practice to know the best way to improve an article. Best wishes. [[User:Karenthewriter|Karenthewriter]] ([[User talk:Karenthewriter|talk]]) 17:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== How to submit new created article , draft to review ?  ==

Hello , I created two articles [[Draft : Kothadi]] , [[ Draft : Jalgaon housing scam ]] but they still not live or not reviewed , I don't know.Can you tell me how to submit new draft.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/106.220.85.12|106.220.85.12]] ([[User talk:106.220.85.12|talk]]) 09:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:Try this link: [[WP:SUBMIT]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 09:52, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::Kothadi appears to have been created by a different editor? Anyway, not yet submitted for review. Jalgaon has now been submitted. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 10:23, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
[[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] Hello thanks for submitting article created by me. will you submit [[Draft : Jalgaon housing scam]] for review. And can explain me how I can send a article for reviewin future. Cheers [[Special:Contributions/106.220.85.12|106.220.85.12]] ([[User talk:106.220.85.12|talk]]) 12:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:I did not, that was someone else. Did you try the link I posted just above? You can also add this code: <nowiki>{{AfC submission/draft}}</nowiki> at the top of a draft you want to submit. Then check the "Improving your odds of a speedy review" advice in the template. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 12:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hi. The housing scam article was an interesting subject. It might have been accepted, but probably not in its prior state but I have done a complete copyedit/rewrite and I believe it's ready for the mainspace. However, I am now "involved" so I would not presume to accept an article I worked on this extensively.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 17:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::Hi again. Since you posted to my talk page, but did so near the top of the page (and are not [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|editing by an account]], so I can't [[WP:PING|ping you]]), you might not have noticed my response, which relocated your post to the bottom of the page. Please see [[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit #Jalgaon housing scam]]. Thanks--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 18:35, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== Help me to send my newly created article to review ==

Hi I recently created two articles [[Draft : Kothadi]] , [[Draft : Jalgaon housing scam]].It will great if you able to send it for review.And explain how to send a draft to review in in simple UK English. [[Special:Contributions/106.220.85.12|106.220.85.12]] ([[User talk:106.220.85.12|talk]]) 12:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/106.220.85.12|106.220.85.12]] ([[User talk:106.220.85.12|talk]]) 12:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:You have submitted your drafts for review and they are pending. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:50, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:You already have a post regarding these drafts, above, at [[#How to submit new created article , draft to review ?]], which has received multiple responses.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 18:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== removal of template ==
{{courtesy link|Noel Wood}}

I have tried, but cannot remove a template on my father's site:  Noel Wood, Australian Artist.  I have made references to where someone unknown to me put in "citations needed".  The citations were about his birth and his mother - ridiculous!&nbsp;[[User:Enoneo|Enoneo]] ([[User talk:Enoneo|talk]]) 00:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{Re|Enoneo}} Welcome to the Teahouse. The issue is that there are no inline citations per Wikipedia standards; please see [[WP:EASYREFBEGIN]] for an introduction to citing. If you are related to Wood you must [[WP:DISCLOSE|disclose]] your [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]. Please do so either on your user page or the article's talk page. Your citations must be to [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. On an unrelated note, the article is suffering from a tone issue, which should be expressed as neutrally as possible (that is, not using words like {{tq|sadly}}). —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 00:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:I've cleaned up [[Noel Wood]] and I removed the tag. [[User:Possibly|Possibly]] ([[User talk:Possibly|talk]]) 04:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::Nice job, {{u|Possibly}}! I looked at it and chickened out as it seemed too daunting for me to attempt. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/2.125.75.168|2.125.75.168]] ([[User talk:2.125.75.168|talk]]) 19:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== Washishi ==


{{talk quote|Washishi-1.(noun) to be epic or awesome;to like or worship monke(also know as monkey).2.(verb) to misunderstand someone or something;to be misunderstood(thought to be said sometdifferent).
Pronounced(way-shee-she)and can also be spelled washishied or washishing depending on the situation}}  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hahatrey|Hahatrey]] ([[User talk:Hahatrey#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hahatrey|contribs]]) 17:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{u|Hahatrey}}, do you have a question for us? <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 17:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hi, {{u|Hahatrey}}, and welcome to the Teahouse. Based on your user page, I believe you may be trying to create an article for the word 'Washishi'. However, I can't find mention of this word anywhere (including [https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E3%82%8F%E3%81%97%E3%81%97 the Japanese Wiktionary]). If you are trying to create this entry, I would advise against it for two reasons: 1) This reads very much like [[WP:MADEUP]], and 2) even if it weren't, [[WP:NOTDIC|Wikipedia is not a dictionary.]] If anything, assuming this is some slang that you or a friend made up, this would probably be better for a site like [[Urban Dictionary]]. If it's not made up and you can support that, then our sister project [[Wiktionary]] would be the place to go. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 19:11, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== "Not to be confused with" ==

How does one implement the above? ----[[User:MountVic127|MountVic127]] ([[User talk:MountVic127|talk]]) 19:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:MountVic127|MountVic127]]. I guess you want {{tl|Distinguish}}. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 21:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|MountVic127}}.  Check out [[WP:HATNOTE]].  Section 6.2.2 has some examples for this.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 21:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:: Thanks. :-) ----[[User:MountVic127|MountVic127]] ([[User talk:MountVic127|talk]]) 22:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== External links. ==

How do i add external links to Wikipedia without typing the whole thing. I need to be able to verify stuff with external links but i REALLY don't want to have to write the whole link.&nbsp;[[User:Chewie1138|Chewie1138]] ([[User talk:Chewie1138|talk]]) 21:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Chewie1138}}, welcome to the Teahouse. To clarify, you're referring to using external links as references? Assuming that's the case, the Cite feature in the visual editor can automatically generate a citation from an external link where most of the legwork is done for you. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 21:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Chewie1138|Chewie1138]]. Copying an address is a feature of your browser or device and not of our software. You can ask for help at [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing]] but you have to say which browser or device you use. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 21:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Ok Thanks.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Chewie1138|Chewie1138]] ([[User talk:Chewie1138#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chewie1138|contribs]]) 22:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== what happens when two articles are about the same subject?   ==

i'm very curious about what happens when two articles are about the same thing, i've never seen this happen before, so thats why im curious
(sorry if this was short, im not very good at writing super detailed questions :/)&nbsp;[[User:Alex102207|Alex102207]] ([[User talk:Alex102207|talk]]) 16:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, [[User:Alex102207|Alex]]! Welcome to the Teahouse. Please see [[WP:CFORK]] for Wikipedia's guidelines on content forking. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 16:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::An example: [[Vitamin B12]] has some information on deficiency, but [[Vitamin B12 deficiency]] goes into more detail. And then there is [[Vitamin B12 deficiency anemia]]. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 17:20, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex102207}} Sometimes, two editors will unknowingly write articles that have somewhat different titles but deal with the same topic. Sooner or later, when someone notices this, the articles will be [[WP:MERGE|merged]]. [[User:Deor|Deor]] ([[User talk:Deor|talk]]) 19:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Alex. Usually these articles are merged once one of us finds out.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Chewie1138|Chewie1138]] ([[User talk:Chewie1138#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chewie1138|contribs]]) 22:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Add link to German Wikipedia Page ==

I noticed that the link to the german translation of [Metric|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_(mathematics)] is missing, it should be [Metricsher Raum]https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrischer_Raum (redirected from [Metrik]https://de.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Metrik_(Mathematik)&redirect=no)
How can I add the link to the German translation?
(And how do links work again in Wikipedia?)&nbsp;[[User:TheFibonacciEffect|TheFibonacciEffect]] ([[User talk:TheFibonacciEffect|talk]]) 20:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|TheFibonacciEffect}}, it is not that easy for new Editors but a good starting point would be the How To Guide for this so-called Interwiki Links at [[WP:ILL]]. [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 20:16, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

::{{ping|TheFibonacciEffect}} It is [[Metric space]] which corresponds to [[:de:Metrischer Raum]]. [[Metric (mathematics)]] is closely related but does not have a German article. The language links are usually made at Wikidata but Wikidata does not allow two English articles to be connected to the same German article. [[Help:Interlanguage links#Local links]] gives an alternative without Wikidata. It can be used to link from [[Metric (mathematics)]] to [[:de:Metrischer Raum]] but not the opposite way. The German article can only link to one English article and [[Metric space]] is a better match. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 21:16, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:::{{ping|PrimeHunter}} Would it somehow be possible to link the german article [[:de:Metrik_(Mathematik)]] which redirects to [[:de:Metrischer Raum]] ? We wouldnt have the issue with two links going to the same german article and wouldnt have to worry if someone writes an article about Metrics.
:::[[User:TheFibonacciEffect|TheFibonacciEffect]] ([[User talk:TheFibonacciEffect|talk]]) 21:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::::{{ping|TheFibonacciEffect}} An interlanguage link in the page source can link any page at another wiki. [[Metric (mathematics)]] could have the code <code><nowiki>[[de:Metrik (Mathematik)]]</nowiki></code> to make a link to [[:de:Metrik (Mathematik)]]. {{Q|Q180953}} shows 55 languages and {{Q|Q865746}} only shows 29 so the issue affects many other languages than German. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== I want to make an article about a family member. I think he is relevant enough. ==

So i want to make an article on an author named John Wayne Falbey I. The problem is that said person is related to me. I think he's relevant enough since he just wrote his first book published by a publisher instead of himself. Would an exemption be made for this, Or will someone else have to make this article?&nbsp;[[User:Chewie1138|Chewie1138]] ([[User talk:Chewie1138|talk]]) 22:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Chewie1138}} The first problem here is [[WP:COI]]. You have a conflict of interest. The second is [[WP:NOTABILITY]]. He needs to be known and talked about by independent sources ([[WP:RS]]). Extending the second point, [[WP:NAUTHOR]]. He needs to be a notable author. Looking over the list, he ''fails all 4 requirements''. I've looked him up and found '''2''' articles on Google that mention him '''in passing'''. From this, I doubt he is notable enough to have an article about him. [[User:WhoAteMyButter|<span style="color:#ffb300;text-shadow:1px 1px 6px rgba(255,153,0,0.6)">WhoAteMyButter</span>]] ([[User talk:WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Talk Page">📨</span>]]│[[Special:Contributions/WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Contribs">📝</span>]]) 23:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok. I won't make this article then. I was just curious. I don't know all the notability requirements yet.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Chewie1138|Chewie1138]] ([[User talk:Chewie1138#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chewie1138|contribs]]) 23:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Editing My User And Talk Page To Make Them Look More Exciting ==

Hi, I would like to ask now could I make things more exciting for other users. My User and Talk page look very dull and I just want to make it welcome for other people that's all! I am AestheticDiabetic09 as you said 'DO NOT SIGN with tildes'&nbsp;[[User:AestheticDiabetic09|AestheticDiabetic09]] ([[User talk:AestheticDiabetic09|talk]]) 15:50, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hey, {{u|AestheticDiabetic09}}, and welcome to the Teahouse. There are a whole bunch of things you can do to spice your user page up, but my personal favorite is an infobox with userboxes. Userboxes ([[WP:UBX]]) are templates that allow you to describe yourself as an editor or as a person. They're always bright and colorful, and they can often be helpful to other editors visiting your page. For example, some describe what language(s) you speak and how proficiently, some describe how many edits you've contributed, some what WikiProjects ([[WP:PROJECT]]) you're involved with, etc. Also, check out [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Wikimedia Commons], our sister project, for great Creative Commons images you can add to your profile. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 16:20, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::Talk pages are for functional communications with other editors, about article edits, so my advice is don't dwell on it being 'exciting'.  [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 17:17, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|AestheticDiabetic09}} When you find someone else's user page or talk page that looks exciting, you can view the source to see how it was done.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 23:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== For Wikiproject Korea: Contextual use of unreliable source?  ==

Hi! So I'm posting a question here in relation to articles within Wikiproject Korea, particularly in the entertainment field. I noticed that while the website Seoulbeats.com is considered as an unreliable site for this Wikiproject, some articles on Korean music albums and dramas cites this site as a reference, particularly in regards to an album/drama critical review. For example: [[Ice Cream Cake (EP)]] and [[The Tale of Nokdu]].

In this case, is context needed for the usage of Seoulbeats.com? Like is it unreliable for main articles regarding a living person or event, but acceptable for album/drama reviews? Thanks in advance!&nbsp;[[User:JTan1017|JTan1017]] ([[User talk:JTan1017|talk]]) 15:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
*Hi {{ping|JTan1017}}! While I don't know much about Seaoulbeats.com specifically, an unreliable source like a tabloid or a fanblog generally means that you cannot use that source for biographical information or breaking news. Because a critical review is a matter of opinion and not of fact, certain sources may be included there. For example, the article for the Halestorm song "[[Uncomfortable (song)|Uncomfortable]]" cites the ''[[Daily Express]]'', which [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources|this list]] says is "generally unreliable." However, its use in the article is an uncontroversial album review, not a piece of heavy-hitting reporting. '''[[User:Kncny11|<span style="font-family:Georgia; color:#F74902">Kncny11</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Kncny11|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:black">(shoot)</span>]]</sup> 17:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
**Thank you for the reply! Seoulbeats is a Kpop and Kdrama fanblog and review site, and I've been working around improving several Korean album articles lately, so I was wondering if I could use that. Hehe. [[User:JTan1017|JTan1017]] ([[User talk:JTan1017|talk]]) 23:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

== No talk page discussion? ==

I want to make certain changes to an article ([[Gimbap]]), but I was advised by one of the editors to use the talk page. I'd already edited and reverted three times, so to avoid edit warring, I added my proposed changes to the talk page ([[talk:Gimbap]]). But, nobody has commented on the proposal, including the person who had reverted my changes on the grounds it violated 'fair balance' three times. It's been 4 days and I was wondering at what point I could edit the article again without being accused of edit warring or for not seeking consensus?&nbsp;[[User:NettingFish15019|NettingFish15019]] ([[User talk:NettingFish15019|talk]]) 12:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|NettingFish15019}}, one starting point would be [[WP:AVOIDEDITWAR]] and my suggestion would be to ask for a third opinion [[WP:THIRD]] since your topic had obviously been discussed before without getting to any consensus. [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 20:11, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::{{reply to|CommanderWaterford}}, thanks for the advice. I'm trying to get a third opinion through the talk page, but nobody seems to be posting anything and I thought I could only post a third opinion once there has been more discussion on the talk page? Does this apply to the questions I posted, or just to the general topic as a whole? Also, someone had recently edited the page, such that it drastically changed the tone of the article as a whole (which I thought was without consensus too). In that spirit, I tried to reverse the changes by, what I thought was, making the language more neutral. [[User:NettingFish15019|NettingFish15019]] ([[User talk:NettingFish15019|talk]]) 00:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== Banned from Live Chat Help ==
Hello, moments ago I attempted to ask a question using the Live Chat Help. Before I could ask a question about improving my article, I was quickly banned. Why would this happen, and how do I get specific help with improving an article when the reviewer isn't available? I've asked the reviewer to elaborate on his/her comments about notability, but I've not heard back. I'm afraid the draft article will be removed before I can provide some improvements. [[User:Lakewood66|Lakewood66]] ([[User talk:Lakewood66|talk]]) 20:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Lakewood66}}, welcome to the Teahouse - no idea about what happened to the Live Chat but you could ask your question for example at the Article for Creation Helpdesk [[WP:AFCHD]]. [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 20:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, {{U|Lakewood66}}. I have no idea about Live Chat (I've never used it) but I can reassure you on one point: drafts are not deleted just because they fail review (I don't think they're deleted even if they are outright rejected). They are deleted only if they break major policies like [[WP:COPYVIO|COPYVIO]] or [[WP:No personal attacks|No personal attacks]], or if they are untouched for six months. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 21:26, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Your draft, Declined once, exists at [[Draft:Shannon Global Energy Solutions]]. You also asked about it at Help Desk and have been promised help (in future please do not ask in more than one place). There is some history about the topic, as it appears you had created a draft last summer that was Speedy deleted. No idea what happened at Live Chat Help. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 22:39, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Lakewood66}} I don't know why you were banned from the live chat help  I've seen people get banned because they were being rude or because they were blocked on Wikipedia, but those don't apply to you.  Were you logged in to {{IRC|wikipedia-en-help}} or somewhere else? Were you logged in as Lakewood66 or an anonymous username?  (Maybe an anonymous username or IP was blocked earlier, and you were assigned the same username or IP range when you tried logging in?)  If you'd like to try again tonight, I'll keep an eye out for you.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello {{u|Lakewood66}}, I'm very sorry that you had this experience. I'm a channel operator over at #wikipedia-en-help and I looked into this issue. It looks like you came in right in the middle of an attack where the attacker was rapidly IP/nick hopping and I fear you might have been accidentally assumed to be a part of that attack (they were using dozens of nicks that were "WPhelp<random #>" and a wide variety of IPs, where normally the nick is "<ColorAnimal##>"). I hope you will accept my apologies. I will go ahead and unban all the less-suspect IPs around that timeframe and keep an eye out for you, you can just type my nick or GoingBatty's nick to ping us specifically if you like. [[User:Waggie|Waggie]] ([[User talk:Waggie|talk]]) 01:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== Political leanings ==

I've noticed the Parler Wikipedia article has a Liberal lean. The problem is that it's almost entirely watched and controlled by a Liberal so anything i do to fix this will be undone. Is there a way i can stop this lean once and for all?&nbsp;[[User:Chewie1138|Chewie1138]] ([[User talk:Chewie1138|talk]]) 23:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Chewie1138}} Reminder that Wikipedia is '''not a beacon of [[WP:TRUTH]]'''. We report and summarize what OTHER [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about a subject. ''However'', if you think the wording of a sentence is '''clearly biased and not fair''', you can either [[WP:BOLD|be bold and reword it]] to a [[WP:NPOV|neutral attitude]], or make a request on the article's talk page. [[User:WhoAteMyButter|<span style="color:#ffb300;text-shadow:1px 1px 6px rgba(255,153,0,0.6)">WhoAteMyButter</span>]] ([[User talk:WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Talk Page">📨</span>]]│[[Special:Contributions/WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Contribs">📝</span>]]) 23:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Chewie1138}} (ec) Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia summarizes what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] state. Any bias in those sources will be reflected in Wikipedia. Wikipedia presents the sources to readers so they can evaluate and judge them for themselves as to bias. We don't deal in [[WP:TRUTH|truth, but in what can be verified]]. Only you can decide what is true for you. 
:If the reliable sources in the Parler article are not being summarized accurately, or there are sources missing, please bring it up on the article talk page. If the sources are being summarized accurately, but you disagree with them, you will have to take that up with the sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hi, {{u|Chewie1138}}. Are there any specific excerpts in this article you take issue with? If so, I would be happy to look at them and see if what we've said reflects what reliable sources have said. In high-profile articles such as this, there's usually a high level of conformity with reliable sources, but it never hurts to double-check. Cheers. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 23:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Chewie1138}} That mindset is [[WP:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2#Discretionary sanctions (1992 cutoff)|going to get you in trouble]] sooner or later. If you insist on seeing the world as black and white, Wikipedia is [[WP:BATTLEGROUND|not for you]].  —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Takes a strong man to deny...]]</small></sup> 03:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== How to retrieve some diff without browsing the page history? ==

My question may be naive, but I found it problematic to retrieve some concrete old diff from the pages with a long history (user talk pages, various noticeboard). Usually, I was doing that by browsing the page history, but sometimes it may be too time consuming. Are there any tools that allow you to quickly retrieve a diff with some post made, e.g. at 10:21 am, 1st October, 2018?

Sincerely,&nbsp;[[User:Paul Siebert|Paul Siebert]] ([[User talk:Paul Siebert|talk]]) 00:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hi, [[User:Paul Siebert|Paul]]. If you go to the article's revision history, then select 'Filter revisions' at the top, you can search within a specified date. However, I don't think it's possible to specify the time within a date. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 00:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

::[[User:TheTechnician27]], thanks, it works. --[[User:Paul Siebert|Paul Siebert]] ([[User talk:Paul Siebert|talk]]) 03:38, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== How to prove WP:GNG on board games articles? ==

I have written an article in the past about a boardgame, and it didn't pass muster because of what I perceived to be lack of [[WP:GNG]]. In my rage those day, I just speedily delete my article and then never return again. 

Seeing some other articles about board game, it turns out that apart from more famous one like [[Twilight Struggle]] most others only cover how the game is played, and most sources only cite Boardgamegeek or the developer site. For example, [[Fields of Fire (game)]], [[Europe Engulfed]], [[SPQR (board game)]], [[We the People (boardgame)]], [[Empire of the Rising Sun]], and some others.

Thus, how to prove [[WP:GNG]] or [[WP:SIGCOV]] to board games? Almost all board games, except for very few, will be covered by mainstream medias. 
And seeing how the articles above still be allowed, if I created similar articles with similar sources (not much in media coverage) can it pass review?

Thank you.&nbsp;[[User:SunDawn|SunDawn]] ([[User talk:SunDawn|talk]]) 04:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|SunDawn}} Welcome to the Teahouse!   The fine folks at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Board and table games]] may be able to give more specific guidance.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 04:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

::Thank you [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]]. I have submitted the question there and hopefully get my question answered.[[User:SunDawn|SunDawn]] ([[User talk:SunDawn|talk]]) 05:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== When is lunch? I'm hungry. Can someone make an article on that, please? ==

Make an article on lunch&nbsp;[[User:Fearless130|Fearless130]] ([[User talk:Fearless130|talk]]) 22:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:See [[Lunch]]. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 22:17, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::See also [[Free lunch]] and [[There ain't no such thing as a free lunch]] [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 22:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:::Please also refer to [[packed lunch]], ''[[Lunch atop a Skyscraper]]'', [[ploughman's lunch]], [[plate lunch]], [[no free lunch theorem]], [[no free lunch with vanishing risk]], [[lunch counter]], ''[[Lunch at the Restaurant Fournaise]]'', [[lunchbox]] (which apparently may not represent a worldwide view of the subject of boxes designed to contain lunch), [[brunch]], [[three-martini lunch]], and [[lunch truck]]. <b>[[User:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: #00a9ff"><i>TheTechnician27</i></span>]]</b> [[User talk:TheTechnician27|<span style="color: blue">(Talk page)</span>]] 23:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::::Don't forget [[Lydia Lunch]].  --[[User:Finngall|<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b>]] [[User Talk:Finngall|<sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk</sup>]] 23:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Fearless: If you don't stop subtle vandalism you will be out to lunch. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 01:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

:"Not here", and now gone. Please don't feed the trolls. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 05:52, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== Lack of response to my contribution made on January 28, 2021 ==

I had made my second contribution on January 28, 2021, after my first submission was rejected. I made necessary changes and additions to the content. But, I haven’t received a response on acceptance or rejection of my later submission. Please look into the matter at the earliest.&nbsp;[[User:Evolved nerd|Evolved nerd]] ([[User talk:Evolved nerd|talk]]) 06:54, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Evolved nerd}} Draft/article reviewing is done in no particular order, and asking on the teahouse will not "cut the line". I can tell you, however, that your article as it is right now will probably ''not'' make it. It's not structured like an article. There are many NPOV issues and the article looks like an advertisement in some lights. [[User:WhoAteMyButter|<span style="color:#ffb300;text-shadow:1px 1px 6px rgba(255,153,0,0.6)">WhoAteMyButter</span>]] ([[User talk:WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Talk Page">📨</span>]]│[[Special:Contributions/WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Contribs">📝</span>]]) 07:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Evolved nerd}} Also, if you mean [[User:Evolved nerd/sandbox]], you have not resubmitted it for review yet, see the blue "resubmit" button. If you do, see where the template says "Improving your odds of a speedy review". [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 08:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::Many sections do not have references. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 10:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
I am sorry. I thought I resubmitted the edited content. Should I simply now click on the resubmit button? Could someone guide me? Also, if someone could point out where exactly the text is falling short, and what edits I should make to help my article get accepted, that will be great. This is my first time making a submission on wikipedia. I am rather lost.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Evolved nerd|Evolved nerd]] ([[User talk:Evolved nerd#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Evolved nerd|contribs]]) 05:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Add infobox ==

How do i add an infobox. I haven't been able to figure it out.&nbsp;[[User:Chewie1138|Chewie1138]] ([[User talk:Chewie1138|talk]]) 06:16, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Chewie1138}} Infoboxes are easiest when done in source editing mode. Find the most relevant infobox template, copy in the blank syntax code, and start filling in the parameters after the equals sign (=) in each line. The list of available parameters and what should go in them are in the infobox documentation (like at [[Template:Infobox musical artist]]). The best way to see how they work is to go to an existing article with an infobox, go into source editing, and see how the code works there. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 06:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== [[Jackie Robinson Training Complex]] ==

Apparently a sports facility in Florida has been rebranded. The article describing it has been correspondingly moved, and is now at [[Jackie Robinson Training Complex]]. However, before the move, a user (whose username suggests a connection with the subject) has heavily edited the article, including removing all references and categories, hence it is now tagged as unref'd and uncat'd. As I see it, I cannot just restore the previous good edit, and I cannot manually add back the refs, because the content to which they relate has been largely changed. (I can add back the cats, obviously, but that's the least of the problems.) I don't know how to deal with this, could someone please advise and/or action? Thanks --&nbsp;[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|DoubleGrazing}}, {{Done|Restored}} [[User:Firestar464|Firestar464]] ([[User talk:Firestar464|talk]]) 07:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
::Hello, {{u|DoubleGrazing}}. In the future, click the article's "History" tab and scroll down to the version just before the disruption started. Click on the date/time of that version, and then click "Edit", and verify that this is the most recent good version. Now, leave an edit summary, click "Publish changes" and the undamaged version of the article will be restored. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 07:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|Firestar464}} Ah, the good ol' Gordian Knot solution — love it! And there was me trying to overcomplicate things. :) Cheers, --[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:::Hi {{re|Cullen328}} I know ''how'' to restore earlier versions, my problem was that I assumed that the substantial edits (in connection which, the refs were removed) were valid and should not be just rolled back. But it seems I was wrong. Thanks, --[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
::::{{u|DoubleGrazing}}, the manual revert procedure I suggested is not the same as rollback, which is a much more aggressive procedure that should be reserved for overt, unambiguous vandalism, libel and the like. That's why I said that you should verify the version you reverted to. If there was some useful content in the intervening versions, you can copy that and paste it back into the article with an explanatory edit summary. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 07:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:::::Apologies for using the term 'rollback' incorrectly, my bad. --[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== Creating new articles. ==

I'm not creating them yet, but i would like to know how to create an article when I'm ready.&nbsp;[[User:Chewie1138|Chewie1138]] ([[User talk:Chewie1138|talk]]) 06:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Chewie1138}}. Welcome to the Teahouse. Please read [[WP:YFA]].--[[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 07:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Chewie1138}}, the easiest way to create a page is to create a draft, with the name of your article, (i.e. [[Draft:Example]] if I wanted article [[Example]],) and then to write the draft as you normally would. When you have finished, you can place the template <nowiki>{{subst:submit}}</nowiki> at the top, and a user called an "AfC Reviewer" (AfC for Articles for Creation, which is what this process is called) will come and look review it. If it is declined, the reviewer will leave some suggested changes in order for the draft to be accepted. When you have made those changes, you can re-add the template <nowiki>{{subst:submit}}</nowiki> to see have it re-reviewed. If it is accepted, the reviewer will move it to mainspace, thus making it an article! For more info on how AfC works, see [[WP:AfC|here]], and for a guide to creating your first article, see [[WP:YFA|here]]. <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 07:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== The Article I Created ==

Hi Teahouse, few days ago, Feb 24, I created an article which I think was approved but I still wonder why I can not find it on Google yet or other search engines. It actually came out on Yahoo search about two days ago. Please what do you think is the problem?

Best regards,&nbsp;[[User:Trendrives|Trendrives]] ([[User talk:Trendrives|talk]]) 05:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Trendrives}} Google does a ton of things with indexing and stuff. This isn't really a Wikipedia problem ''(if the article is actually in mainspace)'', moreso a Google thing. Just wait a bit longer. [[User:WhoAteMyButter|<span style="color:#ffb300;text-shadow:1px 1px 6px rgba(255,153,0,0.6)">WhoAteMyButter</span>]] ([[User talk:WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Talk Page">📨</span>]]│[[Special:Contributions/WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Contribs">📝</span>]]) 05:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:: Hello, {{u|Trendrives}}. Please read [[Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing]]. In brief, most new articles will not be indexed for search by Google and other search engines until an article is marked OK by the [[WP:NPP|New pages patrol]]. The restriction is lifted automatically after 90 days if no patroller makes a decision before then. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 06:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello, {{u|WhoAteMyButter}} and {{u|Cullen328}}, thanks for your response. [[User:Trendrives|Trendrives]] ([[User talk:Trendrives|talk]]) 12:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== Can I suggest a topic here for an editor, then someone can start with creating a profile page? ==

There is a Thailand-based football player, I think he is a lot deserving for the Wikipedia page. I am new on Wiki and don't have an idea about article writing, but I can suggest a topic for the editor. I can share all details that I have for the person if someone is interested.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/103.84.81.198|103.84.81.198]] ([[User talk:103.84.81.198|talk]]) 12:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.  I would correct you in that Wikipedia does not have "profile pages", not one.  Wikipedia has '''articles'''.  You are welcome to suggest articles at [[WP:RA|Requested Articles]]; however, the backlog there is severe and it may be some time, if ever, before your request is acted upon. You are correct to be cautious about article writing, as it is the hardest thing to do here.   We don't just share information/details about people, we summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about subjects. I will say though that if you have reviewed the Wikipedia definition of [[WP:NFOOTY|a notable football player]] and believe this person meets it, and you have at least three independent reliable sources to support that, you can take your time creating a draft using [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]], and you can submit that draft for a review by other editors before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia.  You may wish to read [[WP:YFA|Your First Article]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:29, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Welcome to Teahouse - WP have backlog of requested articles.So I suggest you to learn how to edit on WP.Observe other articles about football like [[Lionel Messi]] and first experiment in your [[sandbox]].Cite reliable sources from Newspaper website's articles like big one BBC , website of top news channel's of your country. You can make article only about notable people. [[Special:Contributions/106.220.85.12|106.220.85.12]] ([[User talk:106.220.85.12|talk]]) 13:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== How to write successor , previous office holder name in Infobox ?  ==

Hello friends , while editing a article about former office holder [[Eknath Khadse]] , politician.I am not able to add his  previous office holder's name
, Chief minister's name in which cabinet he was minister.Also not able to add governor name.I tried to add by visual and non visual way , but I couldn't.I think Infobox office holder don't have these options.that man was three times minister.Can someone fix this issue.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/223.178.144.61|223.178.144.61]] ([[User talk:223.178.144.61|talk]]) 10:49, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:In {{tl|Infobox officeholder}}, you can populate the existing {{para|predecessor1}} and {{para|predecessor2}}, and add {{para|predecessor3}} and {{para|predecessor4}}.  If you would like further help, I suggest you post in the article's talk page: [[Talk:Eknath Khadse]].  Please provide a published [[WP:RS|reliable source]] for the information you would like added to the article as well.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 14:14, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
::[[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]]Hi , I tried what you said but issue still not resolving.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/223.178.144.61|223.178.144.61]] ([[User talk:223.178.144.61#top|talk]]) 15:17, 28 February 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::{{fixed}} I changed {{para|Predecessor4}} to {{para|predecessor4}}.  {{please}}  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 21:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
[[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]]Hi , I got it ![[Special:Contributions/106.220.85.12|106.220.85.12]] ([[User talk:106.220.85.12|talk]]) 16:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== How to cite from a physical, ebook book to a article ?  ==

How can we show refrence from a book, a Journal and physical newspaper.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/106.220.85.12|106.220.85.12]] ([[User talk:106.220.85.12|talk]]) 16:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:See [[Template:Cite book]], [[Template:Cite journal]] and [[Template:Cite news]], respectively.  —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Takes a strong man to deny...]]</small></sup> 16:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== How can I go about contributing to a portal that seems mostly inactive? ==

Hi, I'm an electrical engineering student wanting to contribute to the [[Portal:Electronics|electronics portal]], but it just so happens that it seems pretty inactive. I've made a few edits already, I'm just wondering if it's okay to go ahead and continue editing, and make sure I'm not stepping on anyone's toes.&nbsp;[[User:FemboyCircuits|FemboyCircuits]] ([[User talk:FemboyCircuits|talk]]) 16:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|FemboyCircuits}}, Yeah it's okay, you can keep going. Seems kinda odd though; I would've figured that big things like that wouldn't be inactive. <span style="text-shadow:red 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em">[[User:Bop34|βӪᑸᙥӴ]] • [[User talk:Bop34|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bop34|Contribs]]</span> 17:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ec}} {{ping|FemboyCircuits}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  It's clear that you're editing in good faith, and using the edit summary field well to describe your edits.  Continue to [[WP:BOLD|be bold]] and make improvements.  If someone doesn't agree with your edit and reverts it, then discuss it on the Portal talk page per the [[Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle]].  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

==Reliable citations==
{{FYI|Created section header. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)}}
Can you have 'reliable citations' and have multiple sources of the same website?
From Jajajay&nbsp;[[User:Jajajay|Jajajay]] ([[User talk:Jajajay|talk]]) 17:19, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Jajajay}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  Yes, an article can have more than one reliable source from the same website.  However, the article should have sources from multiple independent sources.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== Hello, thank you for inviting me to the teahouse ==
How can I be a strong user in Wikipedia to be able to edit protected Wikipedia content? &nbsp;[[User:Hossein norouzi 306|Hossein norouzi 306]] ([[User talk:Hossein norouzi 306|talk]]) 14:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Hossein norouzi 306}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you wish to edit a protected article, you may post to the relevant article talk page, detailing what it is that you feel should be edited.  For example, the talk page of [[Joe Biden]] is [[Talk:Joe Biden]]. You may wish to use the [[WP:ADVENTURE|new user tutorial]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{tping|Hossein norouzi 306}} See more at [[Wikipedia:Protection policy]]. Most protected articles are only semi-protected. You can edit those when your account is four days old and has made ten edits. You only miss 16 hours and one edit. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 16:16, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, {{U|Hossein norouzi 306}}, and welcome to the Teahouse from me too. To add to what the other editors have replied: I recommend you be cautious before you edit a semi-protected article. Have a look at the article's talk page, and see what has been going on. Some articles are semi-protected because they have had a spate of [[WP:vandalism|vandalism]] - that is, editing simply to damage Wikipedia - and if that is why the article has been protected, then if you have something to contribute, go ahead! But other articles are protected because they have been contentious and often people have been trying to continue a real-world conflict in the pages of Wikipedia. If an article you wish to edit is one of those, I urge you to read the Talk page and its archives carefully to see if the edit you want to make has already been discussed; and in any case, unless it is something trivbial like correcting a misspelling, think about discussing your proposed change on the talk page first. See [[WP:BRD|BRD]]. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:47, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== vitamin D tablets ==

What is vitamin C used for.&nbsp;[[User:Foldfox2707celtichut|Foldfox2707celtichut]] ([[User talk:Foldfox2707celtichut|talk]]) 17:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Foldfox2707celtichut}} See the [[Vitamin C]] and [[Vitamin D]] articles.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 18:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== Request for Draft Review ==

Hello! I have made several suggested edits to my current draft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Roy_S._Herbst) and I would greatly appreciate if someone could take another look at it and let me know what else I can do to get it accepted.

Thanks for any help and feedback!&nbsp;[[User:Jcollinsycc|Jcollinsycc]] ([[User talk:Jcollinsycc|talk]]) 15:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Jcollinsycc}}, I'm not a draft reviewer, but just from looking at your draft it seems like you've added many sources. My one suggestion is to add a citation to the personal section. <span style="text-shadow:red 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em">[[User:Bop34|βӪᑸᙥӴ]] • [[User talk:Bop34|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bop34|Contribs]]</span> 17:10, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
::Thank you [[User:Bop34|Bop34]] and [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]]! I've decided to remove the section, since it's not particularly necessary or important to the entry. If there's anything else I need to do to get this article accepted, please let me know. It's been in draft space since December and I'm eager to see it as an article. :) [[User:Jcollinsycc|Jcollinsycc]] ([[User talk:Jcollinsycc|talk]]) 17:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hi [[User:Jcollinsycc|Jcollinsycc]]. All of our core inclusion policies (such as [[WP:N|notability]], [[WP:V|verifiability]], [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]], and [[WP:NOR|no original research]]) converge on aspects of reliable sourcing – so improvement of the sourcing will always make a draft more likely to be acceptable. One thing you might to do here is bone up the attribution of the citations, for better transparency.<p>To provide one example, right now, with respect to one source you've cited, all the draft provides is a linked title and "Nature, June 2010". I would change that to the following (here, I'm using a [[WP:CT|citation template]]; I find them very helpful, because it consistently formats everything automagically, without my need to know any order, but you don't need to do likewise; the point is the addition of a lot more attribution information):
::<code><nowiki><ref>{{Cite journal|journal=Nature Reviews Drug Discovery|volume=9|issue=423|url=https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd3199.pdf|title=Adaptive BATTLE trial uses biomarkers to guide lung cancer treatment|date=June 2010|doi=10.1038/nrd3199}}</ref></nowiki></code>

:which will format in the references section as:
::{{Cite journal|journal=Nature Reviews Drug Discovery|volume=9|issue=423|url=https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd3199.pdf|title=Adaptive BATTLE trial uses biomarkers to guide lung cancer treatment|date=June 2010|doi=10.1038/nrd3199}}
:Best regards--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 18:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== Frustrated ==

Many, many times I have tried to improve an article someone deletes my hard work. I quit Wikipedia years ago for the very same thing, but figured I'd give it another chance, but it's happening again. I'm about to quit forever!&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/174.250.246.103|174.250.246.103]] ([[User talk:174.250.246.103|talk]]) 13:16, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

:Since the IP you're currently using has 2 edits in total, it's hard to give any advice without more what/when/where. [[WP:COMMUNICATION]] may be of help to you. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 13:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP user, could you maybe link what article you're triyng to improve so we could know if the person who deleted your work was right or wrong? I would reccommend you to ask the person who deletes your work why they did that on their user talk page. I also reccommend you to [[Special:UserLogin|make an account]] so you can keep track of your contributions since the list resets when you move locations as an IP, that would also help people know what you're talking about. [[User:Max20characters|Max20characters]] ([[User talk:Max20characters|talk]]) 18:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== Notability of potential subject: singer / songwriter Lainey Wilson ==

Hello. I have been hired by a management company to create a Wikipedia entry for Nashville Singer / Songwriter Lainey Wilson.
Before I begin the Wikipedia process, I thought it best to start here and make sure that she meets the notability requirement.
Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp;[[User:Craig.volt|Craig.volt]] ([[User talk:Craig.volt|talk]]) 17:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
	
:[[WP:42|She needs to be the subject of significant, independent, published work]].  Basically, people who are not her or associated with her need to have written about her life and work (i.e. not her personal website, her employers, or work that was "written for hire" about her, press releases also do not count, etc.).  It is those independent, [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that are needed so that an article can be written.  The indicator of notability ''is'' the independent source texts.  --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009">Jayron</span>]][[User talk:Jayron32|<b style="color:#090">''32''</b>]] 18:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ec}} {{ping|Craig.volt}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  See [[WP:PAID]] and [[WP:SINGER]].  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 18:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Craig.volt}}, Welcome to the Teahouse - for the very first start it might be a good idea making yourself familiar with the principles of conflict of interest editing at [[WP:COI]], then [[WP:YFA]] and for your subject [[WP:NMUSIC]]. [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 18:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hello, {{U|Craig.volt}}. Thank you for being up front about your task. Please be aware that creating a new article is one of the hardest tasks there is for an inexperienced editor; and it is many times harder if they have a COI. Have you read [[WP:Your first article|Your first article]]?
:Another take on what Jayron said is that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]].. You may also want to show Wilson the page [[WP:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing|An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing]]: make her aware that if you succeed in getting an article about her published, it will not belong to her, and neither she nor you will have any control over its contents. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== I fixed Template:Univision programming Since Dulce Ambición has ended it has changed to La hija del embajador ==

I fixed Template:Univision programming Since Dulce Ambición has ended it has changed to La hija del embajador  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ItsJustdancefan|ItsJustdancefan]] ([[User talk:ItsJustdancefan#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ItsJustdancefan|contribs]]) 18:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{courtesy link|Template:Univision programming}} {{re|ItsJustdancefan }} it looks like one of your edits was partially reverted.  You should discuss on the [[Template talk:Univision programming|template talk page]].  {{please}} [[User:Timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 19:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== How do you make pages? ==

I don't know how to make pages. Can someone please help? [[User:KTTcontributes|<i style="color:blue">KTT</i>]]<sup> [[User talk:KTTcontributes|<i style="color:orange">Talk :D</i>]] [[Special:Contributions/KTTcontributes|<i style="color:green">contribz</i>]]</sup>  <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 18:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:While I am not a Teahouse Host, I can assist you with your question. There are two ways to create articles. For beginner editors the recommended way is [[Wikipedia:AFC|AFC]](Articles For Creation) because you can get help from AFC reviewers. Another way is to search for a non-existent article and create an article for it. However, it can be seen and be deleted if you don't follow Wikipedia's policies. Happy Editing, [[User:SoyokoAnis|<span style="color: skyblue">SoyokoAnis</span>]] 18:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)!
:{{u|KTTcontributes}}, please have a closer look at [[WP:YFA]] .... hope that helps. [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 19:42, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for helping me out![[User:KTTcontributes|<i style="color:blue">KTT</i>]]<sup> [[User talk:KTTcontributes|<i style="color:orange">Talk :D</i>]] [[Special:Contributions/KTTcontributes|<i style="color:green">contribz</i>]]</sup>

== How do you make a audio recording of a page? ==

Im wondering about how to do this. [[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377|talk]]) 19:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Starman2377|Starman2377]] ([[User talk:Starman2377|talk]]) 19:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Starman2377}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.  I'm not familiar with the technical process, but I think [[WP:SPOKEN|the Spoken Wikipedia WikiProject]] is what you might be looking for. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== I just submitted my first draft ==

What next do I do?
Here’s my [[Draft:Oxlade (singer)]] on the Nigeria artist Oxlade and not to be confused with the English artist [[Jocelyn Oxlade]], also known as Oxlade.&nbsp;[[User:JudeJnr|JudeJnr]] ([[User talk:JudeJnr|talk]]) 12:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:[[User:JudeJnr|JudeJnr]] Hi Ok you just submitted your first darft.Now it can take long time to be reviewed and approved.Till you can improve it by adding new info and  citing reference.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/106.220.85.12|106.220.85.12]] ([[User talk:106.220.85.12#top|talk]]) 12:33, 2 March 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Oh ok, would see to that.--[[User:JudeJnr|JudeJnr]] ([[User talk:JudeJnr|talk]]) 12:51, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
[[User:JudeJnr|JudeJnr]] Hello you editing skills looking good. You can create new articles on Musicians , Politician , Sportsmen , Village and towns around you , edit and improve existing article about your interest. Cheers [[Special:Contributions/106.220.85.12|106.220.85.12]] ([[User talk:106.220.85.12|talk]]) 13:15, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
::Thank You, took out time studying series of exiting articles and also ensure they met [[WP:NPOV]], following the code of conduct; governing this system. Would try something new on entrepreneur.--[[User:JudeJnr|JudeJnr]] ([[User talk:JudeJnr|talk]]) 20:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
If you meant what happens to the draft, a review can take place within days, weeks, or (sadly) months. The system is not a queue. If accepted, the reviewer will more it to mainspace and remove Draft: from the name. A tag may be added to distinguish it from the other Oxlade. Once in mainspace it can take up to 90 days before it will be visible to a search conducted at Google or other search engine. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 14:41, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:: The visibility, sounds amazing {{u|David notMD}}. More like the page will be optimized within the period of 90 days on a search engine.--[[User:JudeJnr|JudeJnr]] ([[User talk:JudeJnr|talk]]) 20:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== Edits Need citation ==

I'm trying to edit my employers wikipedia page : American Society of Echocardiography. I updated it in September and then today noticed it had been reverted to an old version. I retrieved my changes and tried to add more citations, but just wanted to check what else I could do to keep the newest revision in place. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Society_of_Echocardiography&nbsp;[[User:Ase2021|Ase2021]] ([[User talk:Ase2021|talk]]) 16:26, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Ase2021}} before you go any further, please review [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:PAID]] and make the required disclosures. Failure to do so results in the save button disappaering sooner or later. Articles [[WP:OWN|aren't locked to prevent a particular version from being changed]]. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 16:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Ase2021}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  I reverted your changes and added some information on your talk page about Wikipedia's username policy and conflict of interest editing.  You're welcome to suggest edits on the article talk page [[Talk:American Society of Echocardiography]] with the {{tl|request edit}} template.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:38, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Ase2021}}, You really shouldn't be editing your employer's page as you have a clear [[WP:COI]]. It's general practice not to edit if you have a COI, but you can send a COI edit request on the talk page. Looking at your edits, it is clear that they are promotional. <span style="text-shadow:red 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em">[[User:Bop34|βӪᑸᙥӴ]] • [[User talk:Bop34|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bop34|Contribs]]</span> 16:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
::What you added twice, reverted twice, was a huge amount of content of what the society says about itself (Mission Statement, Strategic goals, Membership benefits, blah, blah, blah). None of that belongs in the article. As already mentioned, the avenue open to you is to go to the article's Talk page and propose changes.  [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 20:27, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Ase2021}} Your edits were also blatant [[Copyright infringement|copyright violations]]. I have let you a note about this on your talk page. Don't ever do that again.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 20:35, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

==IP signature with no question==
&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/2402:800:63A4:DFE3:E4BA:38AE:65B8:BBD|2402:800:63A4:DFE3:E4BA:38AE:65B8:BBD]] ([[User talk:2402:800:63A4:DFE3:E4BA:38AE:65B8:BBD|talk]]) 21:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hi. Do you have a question?--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 21:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== Edit request for to reflect 117th Congress ==

Submitting one additional edit request for this page to reflect that it is now the 117th Congress, not 116th. Thank you!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Johnson_(Louisiana_politician)

Change:
James Michael Johnson (born January 30, 1972) is an American attorney, politician, and former talk radio host serving as the U.S. Representative for Louisiana's 4th congressional district. First elected in 2016, he is also the chairman of the House Republican Study Committee, a coalition of socially- and fiscally-conservative members of the larger House Republican Conference.

To:
James Michael Johnson (born January 30, 1972) is an American attorney, politician, and former talk radio host serving as the U.S. Representative for Louisiana's 4th congressional district. First elected in 2016, he is also the Vice Chairman of the House Republican Conference. He previously served as chairman of the House Republican Study Committee, the largest coalition of socially- and fiscally-conservative members of House Republican Conference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_Chairman_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives_Republican_Conference&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/143.231.249.135|143.231.249.135]] ([[User talk:143.231.249.135|talk]]) 21:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Place to ask is on Talk page of the article in question. Or just make the change. But you will have to put that URL in proper reference format. Look at other website refs in the article and mimic those. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 22:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== How to use images from others that I have permission? ==

I obtained the permission to use Dr. Michael Sawaya's X-ray crystallographic image of 20 amino acids. How do I added it to the wiki site since this image is not my own work? 

Shuguang Zhang, Ph.D.
&nbsp;[[User:ShuguangZhang4|ShuguangZhang4]] ([[User talk:ShuguangZhang4|talk]]) 22:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hello, {{U|ShuguangZhang4}}, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid that, because of Wikipedia's fundamental purpose, to make information available to anybody for any purpose, permission to use an image in Wikipedia is not acceptable. The only way to do this is if Dr Sawaya himself (not you) chooses to license the image under [[WP:CC-BY-SA|CC-BY-SA]], which will allow anybody to reuse or alter it for any purpose, commercial or not, as long as they attribute. If he is willing, he can either upload it to Wikimedia Commons himself, or can send a mail as specified in [[WP:donating copyright materials|donating copyright materials]]. I have removed the contact information address from above: it is a bad idea to publish them in such a public site as this. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 23:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

== If edits are approved or rejected ==

Hello, 
I am wondering when and how I will know if the contributions I made to a wikipedia site will be approved or rejected? Will i receive an email? How will i know when the decision has been made? 
Thank you 
Nicole Snively&nbsp;[[User:Nicole Snively|Nicole Snively]] ([[User talk:Nicole Snively|talk]]) 23:36, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, {{u|Nicole Snively}} and welcome to the Teahouse. For most pages, once you've edited content and hit the 'Publish changes' button, your edits will appear immediately. Except for certain 'protected pages' there is no approval process. However, if your edit is not deemed acceptable, or perhaps not supported by references, or in some other way inappropriate, another editor may revert them immediately. You should see a red alert symbol at the top of the page notifying you of any such 'revert'. But you can always go to the 'View History' tab and check if a subsequent edit has removed your own. There should be an 'edit summary' alongside it which explains why that edit was made. (further explanation to follow shortly)  [[User:Nick Moyes|Nick Moyes]] ([[User talk:Nick Moyes|talk]]) 23:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|Nicole Snively}} I note [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_Canadian_women&type=revision&diff=1008702999&oldid=998785090&diffmode=source these two good faith edits] were made by you, but reverted as 'Vandalism' by {{u|NoahDavid771}} just two minutes later ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_Canadian_women&diff=next&oldid=1008702999&diffmode=source see here]). However, I've since appreciated that he immediately left you a clear and valid explanation for their removal on your own talk page. i.e. it was a non-neutral edit with too much of your own opinion within it.<s>I completely disagree with their initially-stated rationale, even if your comments were not as neutral as befits an encyclopaedia, as we might have wished (see answer to your follow-up question below, which explains why it was removed, and further comment from me) which I'm sure 'vandalism' as a reason was an error, so I am pinging them in the hope they will come here to explain their reasoning.</s> (The normal way we do things is to suggest that one editor goes to the reverting editor's talk page and politely asks them to explain their rationale to you for reverting.  The way you have done it below in your follow-up question would never have reached that editor, <s>so I will remove it shortly) I'm sure there must be a logical explanation, and</s> I apologise if you feel your efforts were not appreciated, but removing content that doesn't fit in with our style of voice is quite common. But vandalism it certainly wasn't.  Please don't let that put you off - with 6,000,000+ articles to maintain, we can all make mistakes sometimes [[User:Nick Moyes|Nick Moyes]] ([[User talk:Nick Moyes|talk]]) 23:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC) (note: I've subsequently edited this post multiple times for clarity & accuracy)
:::{{re|Nick Moyes}}, {{re|Nicole Snively}} I used the RedWarn interface to revert it and it appears I misclicked. I gave you a reason on your talk page.

== Looking for some help of native-language speakers interested in 1960s/70ies rock ==

Hello, I am  new on wikipedia and wrote an article about the protometal band Poobah from Ohio (rock fans might be familiar with the name). I  translated the article into english, but I am not a native speaker. I got a cleanup template message on the article and need some help to get it fixed. People with some knowledge of counterculture, psychedelic rock and similar things would be very welcome. The article is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poobah_(band)
[[User:GegenkulturForschung|GegenkulturForschung]] ([[User talk:GegenkulturForschung|talk]]) 13:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:GegenkulturForschung|GegenkulturForschung]] ([[User talk:GegenkulturForschung|talk]]) 13:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|GegenkulturForschung}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  If you have any [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] with this band, you must disclose it on [[User:GegenkulturForschung|your user page]] (preferably with {{tl|UserboxCOI}}).  I suggest you read [[WP:BAND]] and determine whether Poobah meets Wikipedia's notability requirements for inclusion.  Next, gather all of your published [[WP:IS|independent]] and [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] about the band.  Then, summarize in your own words what the sources say, and remove all the sentences that are not supported by a source.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 14:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello GoingBatty,
I did a lot of research, but I am not sure where to find any source that will be considered to be independent and reliable about any older rock band that is not as popular as the beatles. To be correct; the band I write about is certainly not a common mainstream band, but most of the bands before the Disco invasion weren't. Although lesser known , it is not any obscure amateur band. The band ist still active after 48 years (and the founder played in two bands before that, having produced at least two records), has published 14 albums and is working on the next, and some of their songs have been used in televison serials and hollywood movies lately. I have a large collection of literature, (which wasn't helpful in that case) and I have found the band cited as "Most collectible psyche band" or "Top ten of.." in magacines like The Rolling Stone and metioned as important protometal pioneers all over the internet. Still, I need someone who can point me out a source that I can link here. So I hoped to find someone with mutual interests here in the tea room." [[User:GegenkulturForschung|GegenkulturForschung]] ([[User talk:GegenkulturForschung|talk]]) 19:36, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

: I can't claim I've heard of this band before, but if you have literature, even if it's not online, you can still cite it. Rolling Stone should be just fine. --[[User:Anon423|Anon423]] ([[User talk:Anon423|talk]]) 00:07, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Hello NoahDavid771 ==

To NoahDavid771 

I see that my contributions were rejected on February 24th. I wonder why they were rejected as I got my information from credible scholarly articles. Could this be reconsidered? 

Thank you 
Nicole Snively&nbsp;[[User:Nicole Snively|Nicole Snively]] ([[User talk:Nicole Snively|talk]]) 23:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hello {{ping|Nicole Snively}}. For future reference, it is better to talk to your reverter on their own user talk page. You were not rejected for [[WP:RS|not having reliable sourcing]], rather, you were reverted for [[WP:NPOV|not having a neutral point of view]]. From looking at diffs, the quotes "what was forgotten by some," "It is unfortunate to think" "pivotal moment in nursing and the nurses experience" "Another significant part" are examples of some non-NPOV stuff. Please read over [[WP:NPOV]] fully to understand what we mean by ''NPOV''. Thank you! [[User:WhoAteMyButter|<span style="color:#ffb300;text-shadow:1px 1px 6px rgba(255,153,0,0.6)">WhoAteMyButter</span>]] ([[User talk:WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Talk Page">📨</span>]]│[[Special:Contributions/WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Contribs">📝</span>]]) 23:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|Nicole Snively}} I seem to be making a bit of a hash of answering you, tonight. I have just noticed that you did, in fact, receive [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nicole_Snively&type=revision&diff=1008703712&oldid=1008703573&diffmode=source this perfectly clear explanation] from the reverting editor, right after they removed your edit. Did you not see the notification that told you of a message on your userpage? My initial concerns that they thought your edit was vandalism is therefore not the case. To learn how to engage with another editor, you  might with to read [[WP:PING|this page]], though just replying to that message on your user talk page should have sufficed had you needed further feedback. Best, [[User:Nick Moyes|Nick Moyes]] ([[User talk:Nick Moyes|talk]]) 00:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== How to completely, thoroughly, totally, and permanently delete a Wikipedia account? ==

How to completely, thoroughly, totally, and permanently delete a Wikipedia account?&nbsp;[[User:Ala.academics|Ala.academics]] ([[User talk:Ala.academics|talk]]) 00:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Ala.academics}} While accounts themselves cannot be deleted, you can be renamed and have your user pages removed. See [[WP:DELETEACCOUNT]]. [[User:WhoAteMyButter|<span style="color:#ffb300;text-shadow:1px 1px 6px rgba(255,153,0,0.6)">WhoAteMyButter</span>]] ([[User talk:WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Talk Page">📨</span>]]│[[Special:Contributions/WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Contribs">📝</span>]]) 00:34, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Why accounts themselves cannot be deleted? ==

Why accounts themselves cannot be deleted?&nbsp;[[User:Ala.academics|Ala.academics]] ([[User talk:Ala.academics|talk]]) 00:43, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Ala.academics}} Please read the link I sent you in the above post you made. It says why. [[User:WhoAteMyButter|<span style="color:#ffb300;text-shadow:1px 1px 6px rgba(255,153,0,0.6)">WhoAteMyButter</span>]] ([[User talk:WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Talk Page">📨</span>]]│[[Special:Contributions/WhoAteMyButter|<span title="Contribs">📝</span>]]) 00:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

==Breach of Peace==
{{Courtesy link|Draft:Breach of Peace (novella)}}

Why can't I make an article about an unpublished book? It can be improved after it is published right? I feel unjustified. This novella is something I feel like is notable, because there are many articles on books that are written by Fans, who wrote it neutrally, and they are considered notable. I'm not a fan yet, but I feel I can make this article. I did not break my neutral point of view in the article. The article was not financially involved with the author. All my refrences were relaible, and don't tell me that novels that aren't released can't be put here. If so, why are unreleased TV shows, episodes, and movies put up here?

I'm sorry if I was insulting.&nbsp;[[User:Danglerofhell|Danglerofhell]] ([[User talk:Danglerofhell|talk]]) 17:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

;Notability 
{{FYI|Combined sections.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 18:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)}}
Could you give me a notability criteria?&nbsp;[[User:Danglerofhell|Danglerofhell]] ([[User talk:Danglerofhell|talk]]) 17:52, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Danglerofhell}} Welcome to the Teahouse - see [[Wikipedia:Notability (books)]].  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 18:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hi [[User:Danglerofhell|Danglerofhell]]. See [[WP:BKCRYSTAL]]; which will refer you to [[WP:CRYSTAL]], which will refer you to [[WP:N]] (notability). Based on the fact that ever single source you have cited in the draft has had no utility whatever in demonstrating any notability—as we [[WP:N|use that word here]], and not as you have interpreted it in a vernacular manner to mean something else (every single one being [[WP:PRIMARY|primary]] and non-[[WP:INDEPENDENT|independent]])—do not waste any more of your own time. In short, barring the unearthing of [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable]], [[WP:SECONDARY|secondary]], [[Wikipedia:Independent sources|independent]] sources that treat the topic in substantive detail<!--Inserted with Template:RSIS-->, the future publication of this novella is not notable at this time, as it simply has not been the subject of reliable, independent publication by third parties, and no article can be written that will be acceptable right now.<p>It is not unjustified; it is in keeping with what an encyclopedia ''is''. In effect, you're like a person who wants to submit for publication in an atlas something that sort of looks like a map, but isn't actually one, and are here saying it's unfair that you've been told "but that's not what an atlas covers". Best regards--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 19:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:::Thank you, [[User:GoingBatty]] and [[User:Fuhghettaboutit]] - I will add that unreleased movies and TV shows also are normally not considered [[WP:N|notable]], although we are inconsistent about them, and we have articles on unreleased movies that we probably shouldn't have.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 00:54, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
::::Yes, [[WP:OTHERSTUFF]] and all that, but (I write this for the OP; I know you, [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert]], know this), we also have articles on upcoming events that are highly anticipated enough, that multiple reliable, secondary independent sources write about the upcoming release.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 01:04, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Verifying citations ==

When copyediting I sometimes like to verify sources.  Many sources have no links.  When I try to get books or articles I am successful about 30% of the time using JSTOR, Internet Archive, WorldCat. Are there other ways of getting references?&nbsp;[[User:OodFloo|OodFloo]] ([[User talk:OodFloo|talk]]) 16:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:For Books, try [[Special:BookSources]]. It has more options. For web content that is missing the actual URL, try searching for the title at least on the main google search and [https://scholar.google.com Google Scholar]. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 16:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:HathiTrust if you belong to an institution that has access. [[User:Urve|Urve]] ([[User talk:Urve|talk]]) 01:37, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== How do I insert a logo from Chinese Wikipedia into English Wikipedia? ==

I'm trying to conveniently move the logo for [[Initium Media]] from the Chinese Wikipedia equivalent to English Wikipedia version of the page. Is there an easy and convenient way to do this or do I have to start the process all over again? Here is the link to the logo:
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Initium_Media_logo.svg&nbsp;[[User:Tyrone Madera|Tyrone Madera]] ([[User talk:Tyrone Madera|talk]]) 00:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Tyrone Madera}} I recommend you download the logo to your computer, and then use [[Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard]] to upload it to the English Wikipedia.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|GoingBatty}} Wouldn't this require filling out the template all over again? Can I copy the answers from the Chinese wiki template? [[User:Tyrone Madera|Tyrone Madera]] ([[User talk:Tyrone Madera|talk]]) 01:18, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Tyrone Madera}} [[:File:Initium Media logo.svg]] looks correct to me. Good work. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 01:38, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
::::{{ping|GoingBatty}} Thanks! :)  [[User:Tyrone Madera|Tyrone Madera]] ([[User talk:Tyrone Madera|talk]]) 01:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

==Population statistics==
{{FYI|Added section header.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)}}
I've noticed usually every year each city/county in the [[United States]] gets a updated estimated population statistic but I noticed in 2020 [[Los Angeles|city of Los Angeles]] and [[Los Angeles County, California|Los Angeles County]] have not, nor has [[New York City]]. Could the pandemic be a reason why? Does anyone know when the statistics will update?&nbsp;[[User:Hgh1985|Hgh1985]] ([[User talk:Hgh1985|talk]]) 00:43, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Hgh1985}} If you didn't know, there was [[2020 United States census|a census held that year]], and processing was delayed due to COVID-19. Other users can correct me, but I don't think that data is available yet. If it is available, it's just a case that nobody's taken up the task of updating the figures. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 01:50, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Reset password ==

My email provider has discontinued its email service. For this reason, I cannot reset my password as the Wiki system does not allow another way than the email. Please advise on how I can recover my account.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/41.13.224.235|41.13.224.235]] ([[User talk:41.13.224.235|talk]]) 15:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:Unfortunally we are unable to do so in any case. In some cases (if the account had signed [[Wikipedia:Access to nonpublic information|the confidentially agreement]] or the account had a [[Template:Committed identity|Committed identity]], the developers ''might'' be able to assist. However, I have no Idea on how to contact these folks or what kind of evidence they require. In all other cases you only can [[Special:CreateAccount|create a new account]] with a different username. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 16:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
That is actually quite pathetic. But none the less I will soldier forth. Interesting how people in Wiki with contacts inside can “steal” profile names once the owner of that profile has moved on.
:They can't (and even if they could, they wouldn't bother trying to steal an account with less rights than their main one when they can just [[WP:SOCK#LEGIT|create their own]]). Nobody on Wikipedia's end has access to any sort of password for any account, despite what Victor Schmidt implies above.  —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Takes a strong man to deny...]]</small></sup> 16:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
::I think they mean "[[WP:USURP|usurping]]", which you can't do if the account has made any appreciable amount of edits at all (any edits at all usually is sufficient), and the definition of "insider" for usurpation is, basically, has a couple of months of non-problematic edits. Beyond that, the ''only'' thing that would transfer is the username. [[User:Nosebagbear|Nosebagbear]] ([[User talk:Nosebagbear|talk]]) 16:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
::Passwords are not stored anywhere so nobody can access them (see [[key derivation function]] if you wonder how users can log in when the servers don't know their password). But some developers have access to set a new email address for an account so a temporary password can be mailed. They do it rarely in special circumstances like users with advanced user rights or large edit counts. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 17:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:::PrimeHunter actually describes what I mean. The devs ''sometimes'' (very rarely) might use their access to set the email adress to something different. But as PrimeHunter already says, they will only do it for very few accounts, and you have to convince them that you are the actual account owner (thats why I mentioned the commited identity and the confidentially agreement). After all, this is unlikely to happen for 99% of accounts, so you will very likely have to create a new account. A few notes about emails, I recommend that you choose an email provider who will not simply shut down the service, but rather give you a few months (6 is common) beforehand so you can rehome all acocunts based on that adress to a new one. Thats also the reason why I recommend retaining any email confirmation emails, so you know which acocunts you need to find a new home for... [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 17:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Gents, thank you for the comprehensive feedback. It is actually very simply, my username Ameshoff is a very unique name to me and I would have loved to use it again.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/41.13.250.150|41.13.250.150]] ([[User talk:41.13.250.150#top|talk]]) 04:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Wikipedia as a source==
What if the only other source is Wikipedia?&nbsp;[[User:Jajajay|Jajajay]] ([[User talk:Jajajay|talk]]) 06:42, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

:If the only potential sources for a particular subject are in Wikipedia, then it's not a subject that can have an article in Wikipedia. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 07:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Talk ==

I am trying to respond back to the individual on talk but am unsure how to respond back. How do I respond back to the individual on his talk in order to prove that the correction was made for approval?&nbsp;[[User:Aletahall2021|Aletahall2021]] ([[User talk:Aletahall2021|talk]]) 07:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
: {{Reply to|Aletahall2021}} In order to send a [[WP:NOTIFICATION|notification]], you have to link that person's username ''and'' sign in the same edit. I've done so in this response to you. Go into source editing mode and look at how I use [[Template:Reply to]] and try the same. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 08:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== How do I improve my article? ==

Hi, my article has been rejected twice and I am afraid of publishing it the third time. I added references as requested, changed the write-up but still got rejected. Please give me feedback on what I need to change here's the link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Grant_Proposal_Video#Grant_proposal_videos_are_videos_versions_of_written_proposals_used_by_nonprofits_to_raise_funds_for_their_projects.

Thanks so much!&nbsp;[[User:Videos4world|Videos4world]] ([[User talk:Videos4world|talk]]) 06:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

:The primary purpose of this draft seems to be giving advice. Giving advice isn't something that Wikipedia does. It just recycles published facts from reliable sources. So the draft shouldn't say for example "A proposal video <u>should</u> have a mission statement of its organisation within the storyline" (my emphasis), as it now does; instead it should say for example {{DarkRed|Three studies found that around 80% of successful proposal videos submitted to grant organizations in northwest Europe from 2016 to 2019 had mission statements whereas 60% of unsuccessful proposal videos did not.<sup>[1][2][3]</sup>}}, with each of those three index numbers pointing to a study published in a (non-vanity) academic journal or similar. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 08:09, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

==how to make your custom sign?==
I've seen people have a custom sign after they reply. How can I make one for my self?&nbsp;[[User:Niger banda|Niger banda]] ([[User talk:Niger banda|talk]]) 09:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Niger banda|Niger banda]], welcome to the Teahouse. See [[Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signature]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 10:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Niger banda}} You may also want to see [[Wikipedia:Signature tutorial]]. :) Take care to follow a hint displayed in '''bold''' in the lead part of the tutorial. [[User:CiaPan|CiaPan]] ([[User talk:CiaPan|talk]]) 10:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

{{u|CiaPan}} ,{{u|PrimeHunter}} thank you so much :)[[User:Niger banda|Niger banda]] ([[User talk:Niger banda|talk]]) 08:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Loveable_lion ==

Hello, please can you tell me how to put a jpg file/picture on an edit you've done? 

Many thanks&nbsp;[[User:Loveable lion.gurl|Loveable lion.gurl]] ([[User talk:Loveable lion.gurl|talk]]) 09:22, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Loveable lion.gurl}} [[File:Example.jpg|thumb|A fancy image description]] (check the source code on how its done) See also [[Wikipedia:Extended image syntax]]. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 09:27, 3 March 2021(UTC)

Thank you Victor Schmidt for helping me on my editing journey!
And telling me the answer to my question 

Many thanks <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Loveable lion.gurl|Loveable lion.gurl]] ([[User talk:Loveable lion.gurl#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Loveable lion.gurl|contribs]]) 09:34, 3 March 2021 (UTC)</span>

==Non-free logo template==
Does anyone have the code to cut and paste into a logo file for a logo with non-free use credentials? I tried to follow the instructions on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Non-free_use_rationale_logo but I guess I erred because I ended up getting blocked. Advice greatly appreciated.&nbsp;[[User:Jallerso|Jallerso]] ([[User talk:Jallerso|talk]]) 20:26, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hello, {{U|Jallerso}}, and welcome to the Teahouse. I don't know why you think you have been blocked: I can't find any evidence of it, and you still seem to be able to edit. The logo will be removed from Commohns because Commons accepts only freely licensed material. [[WP:Logos|Logos]] can usually be uploaded to Wikipedia itself, as non-free media; but only if their use meets ''all'' the criteria in the [[WP:non-free content criteria|non-free content criteria]] - two of which are that they may be used only in articles (not drafts), and that they must be used in at least one article. The time to consider uploading the logo then is after your draft has been accepted as an article. In the meantime, you can work on turning your draft from a piece of marketing puff into an encyclopaedia article. For example, a list of devices, OS's and languages supported in the first sentence is not appropriate - probably not appropriate anywhere, but certainly not there. Remember that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]]. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 21:17, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
::Hello, {{u|Jallerso}}. To be absolutely clear, acceptable [[WP:NFCI|non-free images]] should be uploaded here on the English Wikipedia. They are not allowed on Wikimedia Commons. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 00:20, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Jallerso}} If you use the [[Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard]], you'll be prompted with all the options, and then you don't have to deal with the template.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much Teahouse members {{u|GoingBatty}} {{u|ColinFine}} for the sound advice. On the road to improvement! [[User:Jallerso|Jallerso]] ([[User talk:Jallerso|talk]]) 10:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Https issues ==

I was changing links from http to https on Cleveland, Tennessee, and when i tried to publish it, it said a link to a blacklisted site had been added. The problem is, i didn't add a link. All i did was change http to https. Any ideas on what to do about this.&nbsp;[[User:Chewie1138|Chewie1138]] ([[User talk:Chewie1138|talk]]) 07:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:That's odd indeed. What's the page you want to link? (You can write it out here like "https :// www. spamcornucopia. com/ nigerianmillions .html".) -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 07:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|Hoary}} it was https:// www.city-data .com/zipmaps/Cleveland-Tennessee.html, based on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=spamblacklist&user=Chewie1138&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers the spam blacklist log] [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 09:13, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:::Confession: I'd never heard of (or had forgotten about) this blacklist log. Well, {{U|Chewie1138}}, city-data [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Advameg|wouldn't be worth linking to]] even if doing so were technically possible. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 11:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Sandbox ==

How do i go about a sandbox?&nbsp;[[User:Rmesiwotso|Rmesiwotso]] ([[User talk:Rmesiwotso|talk]]) 11:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

:Click on [[User:Rmesiwotso/Sandbox|this link]], edit, save. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 11:26, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Rmesiwotso|Rmesiwotso]], welcome to the Teahouse. I see you already created [[User:Rmesiwotso/sandbox]] before posting. That is the page linked on "Sandbox" at the top of pages so I recommend using that and not Rmesiwotso's /Sandbox link. Please clarify your question. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 11:49, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Adding a link to a name in an infobox in Visual Editor ==

Hello! I work for Ben-Gurion University and am editing their page for the Jacob Blaustein Institutes for Desert Research. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Blaustein_Institutes_for_Desert_Research
How do I add a link to the name of the director in the infobox in Visual Editor?&nbsp;[[User:BIDR74|BIDR74]] ([[User talk:BIDR74|talk]]) 10:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|BIDR74}}, welcome to the Teahouse - I have done it for you as an example, for further edits please have a look at [[H:L]]. [[User:CommanderWaterford|CommanderWaterford]] ([[User talk:CommanderWaterford|talk]]) 10:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:BIDR74|BIDR74]] ([[User talk:BIDR74#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BIDR74|contribs]]) 10:27, 3 March 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Hello, {{U|BIDR74}}, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you work for the university and are editing any articles connected with them, then you are reagarded by Wikipedia as a [[WP:paid editor|paid editor]], and you '''must''' make the declarations specified at that link. You should also read about editing with a [[WP:conflict of interest|conflict of interest]]. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

==Table==
First round of discussion about 'Difference between Muslim .... and Islamic .... ?' in relation to Wikipedia article titles has been initiated at following talk pages. 

Since I had promised at this notice board to keep informed hence a discussion invitation message. 

Why at multiple talk pages, because 1) it is just initial first round only 2) to reach out a more people over a long long period.      

Please do join in discussions, Thanks and regards [[User:Bookku|Bookku]] ([[User talk:Bookku|talk]]) 12:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC)   
 
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|[[Talk:Islamic art#Difference between Muslim .... and Islamic .... ?|Talk:Islamic art]]
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|[[Talk:Islamic dietary laws/Archive 1#Difference between Muslim .... and Islamic .... ?|Talk:Islamic dietary laws]]
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|[[Talk:Islamic culture#Difference between Muslim .... and Islamic .... ?|Talk:Islamic culture]]
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|[[Talk:Women in Islam#Difference between Muslim .... and Islamic .... ?|Talk:Women in Islam]]
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|[[Talk:Apostasy in Islam#Difference between Muslim .... and Islamic .... ?|Talk:Apostasy in Islam]]
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|[[Talk:List of former Muslims#Difference between Muslim .... and Islamic .... ?|Talk:List of former Muslims]]
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|[[Talk:Islamic Golden Age#Difference between Muslim .... and Islamic .... ?|Talk:Islamic Golden Age]]
|}

:This seems to be more appropriate for WikiProjects like [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam|WikiProject Islam]]. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 12:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Three reverts rule ==

If any editor is vandalising a page continuously and I am reverting it and at last I revert the third time then also that editor vandalises that page again, then what should I do as I it would be againt the tree revert rule, if I see that after two hour also no one has reverted that vandalism then what to do?&nbsp;[[User:ExclusiveEditor|ExclusiveEditor]] ([[User talk:ExclusiveEditor|talk]]) 14:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|ExclusiveEditor}} Reverting obvious vandalism (must be indisputable) is exempt from the three revert rule; see [[WP:NOT3RR]]. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 14:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Can't find Draft in pending AfC submissions ==

Has this [[Draft:Shama_(Magazine)|draft]] been submitted for review? I cannot find it in the AfC Pending submissions list but the draft page has the subst:submit template. Thank you! --[[User:Indianite|Indianite]] ([[User talk:Indianite|talk]]) 14:00, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Indianite}} It's there. See also [[:Category:AfC pending submissions by age/0 days ago]]. There's a lot of pending submissions, and they are not reviewed in any particular order, so please be patient! [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 14:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:: Ah thank you. I'm really sorry. I only checked the [[:Category:AfC_submissions_by_date/02 March 2021]] page which didn't list the draft. --[[User:Indianite|Indianite]] ([[User talk:Indianite|talk]]) 14:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Indianite}} Funny enough, it's there too, just on page two. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 14:37, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:::: I guess today's just not my day :) --[[User:Indianite|Indianite]] ([[User talk:Indianite|talk]]) 14:42, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== help pls ==

i got perm banned from test wiki [[User:Skid and Pump|Skid and Pump]] ([[User talk:Skid and Pump|talk]]) 13:46, 3 March 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Skid and Pump|Skid and Pump]] ([[User talk:Skid and Pump|talk]]) 13:46, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Skid and Pump}} You are not currently blocked at all. Public sandboxes like [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]] get cleared by a bot regularly. You have your own personal sandbox at [[User:Skid and Pump/sandbox]], which is not cleared. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 14:29, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|Ganbaruby}} They are not blocked on en-wp, but they are indeed blocked on test-wp by {{U|Koavf}} (see [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=User%3ASkid+and+Pump&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers log]). I see no warning on their talk page beforehand, so one might argue it is a bit harsh; but then again, stuff like [https://test.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Undefined_undefined&diff=prev&oldid=468328 this] looks like they are testing how to make efficient vandalism, which we should probably not encourage. [[User:Tigraan|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#008000;">Tigraan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tigraan|<span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me</span>]]</sup> 14:38, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:::Huh, TIL that's a thing. My bad. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 14:44, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== change ==

When will the change I made to Lazlo Lorand biography, which is noted on the edited page version, appear on the main and first page of his biography&nbsp;[[User:Martinsugarman16|Martinsugarman16]] ([[User talk:Martinsugarman16|talk]]) 11:20, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:Hello {{u|Martinsugarman16}}, your edits were reverted due to incorrect format by another editor. As such they will not appear of the main and/or first page of his biography. [[User:SenatorLEVI|<span style="background:#ED2939; color:yellow; padding:2px;">'''Senator'''</span>]][[User talk:SenatorLEVI|<span style="background:#A45953; color:yellow; padding:2px">'''LEVI'''</span>]] 11:46, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hello, {{U|Martinsugarman16}}, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. Your edit was in good faith, but there were some things wrong with it. I think it was rather unkind of both {{U|KIENGIR}} (who reverted your edits) and {{U|SenatorLEVI}} above not to give a clear explanation to a new editor. You added information to an article, and gave a citation: well done! That's better than many new editors manage to do. KIENGIR's objection was that you hadn't put the citation in a proper format as explained at [[WP:REFB|REFB]].
:I have now reapplied your edit, but with some changes:
:* I have not put it in the lead section, but in the biography section, where I trhink it is more appropriate
:* I have formatted the reference as a proper citation. I don't think that KIENGIR was right to have reverted for this reason, but the fact that you didn't give full bibliographic information, so that a reader ten years hence would be able to track it down, is a problem. 
:* I have removed the mention of his being Jewish, mostly because that was not in the source. ''All'' information in a Wikipedia article should be found in a reliable published source. Even with a source, it is not necessarily the case that this should be mentioned, and it should not in the lead unless it is significant to the subject's notability: see [[WP:CONTEXTBIO|CONTEXTBIO]]. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:34, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
::{{U|ColinFine}},
::I have to completely refuse to judge me being "unkind", neither it holds for SenatorLEVI. The edit log proves that ("please.."). I considered better than just put a cn tag, and I wished to see especially the source for veification. However, thank you for fixing it.([[User:KIENGIR|KIENGIR]] ([[User talk:KIENGIR|talk]]) 12:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC))
:::Hello, {{U|KIENGIR}}. I did not say you were impolite (you were not) I said that both you and SenatorLevi were unkind in not explaining clearly to a new user just what was wrong with his edit. Your edit summary said "please use proper source format" without an explanation or a link to find out what the proper source format was - similarly Levi's comment above; and you didn't post anything on his talk page. Many new users don't realise that they can look at the history and see edit comments. I don't know if Martinsugarman16 knew to look, but his question above suggests that he wasn't aware that somebody had manually reverted his edit: if so, then he certainly wouldn't have seen your edit summary. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 14:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
::::{{U|ColinFine}},
::::still reject being unkind, I did not investigate the user's background, I had zero negative intention, and ''please'' excludes the possibility not just being unkind, but even negligent. However, next time I will cite in the edit log a WP guideline/rule, so noone may say I did not give sufficient information.([[User:KIENGIR|KIENGIR]] ([[User talk:KIENGIR|talk]]) 14:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC))

== Richard Baker (1962 businessman) ==
{{courtesy link|Richard Baker (British businessman, born 1962)}}

Good morning, I have been trying to update my boss's Wiki entry.  I first tried using a new account I set up for him (Richard Andrew Baker), made the changes, published, and a few hours noticed that it had reverted to the old version.  I didn't understand why.  I then set up a new account for me (KimberleyKitten), re-amended the entry and the same thing happened.  The Luke that is mentioned in some of the communications, is an IT friend of mine who was trying to help me.  Basically, Mr Baker's entry isn't changing much at all, just that his roles are being put in to chronological order.  Could someone advise on how to update and retain the amended entry; ie what I need to change or alter, thank you. I copied and pasted the revised entry so I could refer to it myself if necessary, <s>this is copied below in case it is of any help</s>:
&nbsp;[[User:KimberleyKitten|KimberleyKitten]] ([[User talk:KimberleyKitten|talk]]) 12:01, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|KimberleyKitten}}. You and perhaps your boss might be misunderstanding some important things about Wikipedia. So, I strongly suggest you carefully read the following pages before you (or anyone else who might be connected to your boss) try and edit the article about him any further: [[:Wikipedia:Conflict of interest]], [[:Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure]], [[:Wikipedia:Ownership of content]] and [[:Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Relationship between the subject, the article, and Wikipedia]]. If after doing so you have any questions, feel free to come back and ask them here at the Teahouse. — [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 12:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|KimberleyKitten}}. Your edits were reverted because of various style issues - but more importantly: since you have a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] with the subject of an article - you should only [[WP:COIREQ|make an Edit Request on the article's talk page]]. (also, rather than copypasting large amounts of text into the Teahouse, please use the [[Help:My sandbox|sandbox]] in future). --[[:User:Paul Carpenter|Paul]]  &#10092;[[:User talk:Paul Carpenter|talk]]&#10093; 12:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

{{fyi|Merged related sections. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 14:41, 3 March 2021 (UTC)}}
Hi, thanks for getting back to me.  Having tried to understand the limitations, it isn't obvious to me why some of what we have amended is not allowed, there is a small amount of additional information, and the rest of the roles have been put in to a new chronological order.  I also didn't copy and paste anything in to the entry when amending, I just kept a copy of it for my file.  Can anyone tell me what to do in layman's terms?  Many thanks, kind regards, Kimberley&nbsp;[[User:KimberleyKitten|KimberleyKitten]] ([[User talk:KimberleyKitten|talk]]) 14:28, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|KimberleyKitten}} Because you have a conflict of interest, you are discouraged from editing the article directly since it's very hard for you to remain in a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]]. You should instead make [[WP:COIREQ|edit requests]] at the talk page; instructions are in the link. Also, please continue the discussion in the same section; it helps other editors keep track of prior replies. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 14:41, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
::In addition, per the message left on your Talk page "You are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation." See [[WP:PAID]] for how to declare that on your User page. Sam would apply to Luke. Per what Ganbaruby wrote, you are prohibited from editing the article directly. Instead, specifically worded content is to be proposed on the Talk page of the article, so that a non-involved editor can decide to implement or not. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 14:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Fandom encyclopedia? ==

Is Fandom.org basically an online encyclopedia like Wikipedia but with more detailed articles on television cartoon series? It seems many shows have their own dedicated "mini encyclopedias" within the website itself.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/47.150.227.254|47.150.227.254]] ([[User talk:47.150.227.254|talk]]) 15:01, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:Essentially. Fandom started life as [[Wikia]].  —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Takes a strong man to deny...]]</small></sup> 15:51, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Wikipedia article in another language  ==

I have been working on a article and there is a more detailed version on the Norwegian wiki. I was wondering if a translated version could be transferred to the English wiki and then copy edited and changed up? Is this allowed and If so does this require a professional editor? Here are the articles both English and Norwegian,https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egil_Svartdahl and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egil_Svartdahl.
?&nbsp;[[User:Gandalf the Groovy|Gandalf the Groovy]] ([[User talk:Gandalf the Groovy|talk]]) 14:58, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:Translating from other languages [[WP:Translation|is allowed]], but the caveat is that you must link to the original article's edit history to satisfy [[WP:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License|Wikipedia's licensing]]. Note that notability and sourcing standards are not 1:1 between different Wikipediae, so you will need to familiarise yourself with [[WP:Notability]] and [[WP:Reliable sources]].  —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Takes a strong man to deny...]]</small></sup> 15:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Fixing a draft article  ==

I am working on draft article and I've now realized it has the wrong name and I cannot correct it. I was wondering if there was a way to fix it or do I have to create a new draft page?&nbsp;[[User:Jediaj02|Jediaj02]] ([[User talk:Jediaj02|talk]]) 16:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Jediaj02}} I would leave a note for potential reviewers that the title is incorrect; if accepted, the reviewer will place it at the proper title. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:43, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Teahouse exchange ==

The summary of what led to a previous [[Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_1096#Issue_with_someone_constantly_editing_an_article_with_bad_sources|Teahouse exchange]] on 23:37, 22 February can be found in the second paragraph [[User_talk:David_notMD#Teahouse_exchange|here]]. Attempted to reach out to [[User:David notMD]], but views it as as a [[Wikipedia:Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass|horsemeat]]. They do not seem understand I am trying to reach compromise with a user. [[User:Hostagecat]] had broken off from discussion after raising many concerns erroneous in nature that I think need to be examined (i.e. should [[AllMusic]] no longer be designated a reliable source under [[WP:RSMUSIC]]?) and then filed a report, which [[User:EdJohnston]] accepted without vetting if its claims were actually accurate and gave me a warning. Or perhaps they simply do not want to weight in. According to David notMD, "Content is totally outside my realm of knowledge (I'm an old white guy)". Either way, I am simply looking for a someone to serve as mediator between Hostagecat and I to enhance our communication. If you can assist in initiating a resolution or point towards the direction of an editor whose purview this falls under or is in some way interested, I would greatly appreciate it. -- [[User:Ascribe4|Ascribe4]] ([[User talk:Ascribe4|talk]]) 23:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Ascribe4|Ascribe4]] ([[User talk:Ascribe4|talk]]) 23:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Ascribe4}} You may want to try [[WP:3O]], but have either of you and {{u|Hostagecat}} had a serious discussion about whatever you're arguing about? I see an attempt at [[User talk:Hostagecat#O:D Reply =]] but nothing more from there. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|Say hi!]])</small> 00:18, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

::: {{ping|Ganbaruby}}I tried replying on their [[User talk:Hostagecat|talk page]] explaining that their claims were inaccurate. Among other things, User:Hostagecat repeatedly claimed [[AllMusic]] is [[WP:RSMUSIC|unreliable]] and that I had not provide any sources when text did in fact have a citation, at the very end of the sentence they copy/pasted from. Instead of either accepting the facts I asserted or providing a clarification for what caused them to make such false claims they based their entire revert on—perhaps there was some sort of misunderstanding—Hostagecat broke off from discussion and filed an obscurant [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=1009083586&oldid=1009000501 report]. This complaint resulted in me receiving a warning by [[User:EdJohnston]] that I believe was undue. User:EdJohnston understandably had not been familiarized with the particularities of our conflict, accepted Hostagecat's claims without vetting if everything they said was accurate. When EdJohnston replied to me, for some reason they refrained from delving into the details I gave and instead turned their attention towards the 3rr and my earlier speculation that User:Hostagecat potentially might have been a sock, even though I had already stated Hostagecat [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ascribe4&diff=prev&oldid=1008352127 has clarified] they are not and that I assume [[WP:Assume good faith|good faith]] and believe them. EdJohnston has since moved on to other tasks without touching on the specific issues that I presented and has yet to respond to my request for assistance. --[[User:Ascribe4|Ascribe4]] ([[User talk:Ascribe4|talk]]) 17:01, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Article is semi-protected so I can not edit ==

I am a student working on a class that requires us to edit an article. I chose the article "Feral cat" and  I wanted to add an update from the AVMA with citations as well as 3 references for this week's assignment. I will also need to  do further edits on the article as the course progresses but it said that the page is semi-protected.  Will I be able to work on this article or should I pick another article to work on?&nbsp;[[User:Jmm26|Jmm26]] ([[User talk:Jmm26|talk]]) 15:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Jmm26}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  If you click on the [[WP:SEMI|gray lock icon]] at the top right of the article, you'll see that a user can edit the article if they are [[WP:AUTOCONFIRM|autoconfirmed]] (accounts that are at least four days old and have made at least ten edits to Wikipedia).  You meet both these criteria, and I confirmed your status at [[Special:UserRights]].  At the top of the [[Feral cat]] article, you should see "Edit" and/or "Edit source" tabs.  If you only see "View source", then you cannot edit the article.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 15:22, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
::If for some reason you wish to edit an article that you cannot edit, you may make a formal [[WP:ER|edit request]] on the article talk page, and write the change you wish to make there, for another editor to review.  But as GB says, you should be able to edit that article. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:26, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
::::[[User talk:Jmm26|talk]] Hi first time I am seeing this that a people editing on Wikipedia as their class work. I don't think your response genuine. But before editing do research and write in you own  words in simple UK English , don't use slang , local Eng words of your place. Because WP is read by folks all around the world. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:223.178.144.61|223.178.144.61]] ([[User talk:223.178.144.61#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/223.178.144.61|contribs]]) 15:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)</span>
:::::It is not at all unusual for students to get an assignment to work on a Wikipedia article. Secondly, the variety of English depends on the article – articles about UK-specific subjects should be written in British English, articles about US-specific subjects use American English, and so on. Articles that are not about a topic that is connected to a particular region should in general stick to the variety the first author used. More information [[WP:ENGVAR|here]]. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 16:15, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
{{od|5}} Hi {{u|Jmm26}}. Only articles which have been the subject of repeated [[:WP:DE|disruption]] or [[:WP:VAN|vandalism]] tend to get [[:WP:PP|page protected]]. Usually, page protection is the last resort when all other attempts to try and resolve the problem have failed. There also tends to be a number of editors closely monitoring such articles to make sure someone doesn't try to any sneak in any disruption by somehow figuring out a way to get around the page protection. So, you might want to discuss you desire to edit this particular article with your Wiki-Ed advisor(s) since you might find it a bit harder to edit than perhaps some other article. Well-meaning students often run into problems when they select articles about contentious subjects or articles which have a history of being page protected. [[:Feral cat]] is indefinitely protected which means that there was some serious disruption going on at least at one point in time. The article has been protected six times since 2012 and each time the protection was removed, the disruption seems to have started up again. So, this might not be the best choice of an article to work on. I'm not trying to discourage you. If you really want to try to improve this article, then go ahead once your account has been [[:WP:AUTOCONFIRMED]]; this might, however, be an article where it's better to be a bit more [[:WP:CAUTIOUS]] than [[:WP:BOLD]]. Just make sure you leave a clearly worded [[:WP:ES|edit summary]] for your edits and try not to do a major rewrite/reorganization without first proposing it on the article's talk page. If you do those things, your edits are unlikely going to be mistaken for disruption or vandalism. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 07:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:Thank you all, but I still was not able to edit. The same message saying that it is semi-protected appears.  [[User:Jmm26|Jmm26]] ([[User talk:Jmm26|talk]]) 22:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::{{u|Jmm26}}, Now that you're up to 19 edits, you shouldn't have any problem editing the article. The message will still appear, but you're part of the permitted group now. [[User:Ian (Wiki Ed)|Ian (Wiki Ed)]] ([[User talk:Ian (Wiki Ed)|talk]]) 17:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== PARANOID NUMANOID on CHARLES SWAINSON ==

Sorry: I forgot to add a headline properly and so my question is attached to the previous question (above)!
[[User:Paranoid Numanoid|Paranoid Numanoid]] ([[User talk:Paranoid Numanoid|talk]]) 15:38, 1 March 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Paranoid Numanoid|Paranoid Numanoid]] ([[User talk:Paranoid Numanoid|talk]]) 15:38, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Can I have an editor look over my draft article please? I've had feedback and tried to incorporate everything, I know I have expanded it and that it may be too long, I know I need more referencing after the first part, and I think having three paragraph headings in the same form may be repetitious (is there such a word?!) but apart from that am I on the right track and how can I shape it to be acceptable in due course? Grateful for any constructive criticism.
[[User:Paranoid Numanoid|Paranoid Numanoid]] ([[User talk:Paranoid Numanoid|talk]]) 15:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Paranoid Numanoid|Paranoid Numanoid]] ([[User talk:Paranoid Numanoid|talk]]) 15:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

:This must be about [[User:Paranoid Numanoid/sandbox/Rev. Charles Swainson, M.A.]]. There's ''a lot'' of ureferenced content, including the whole of the three sections that follow the lead. Where did you get all that information? If from reliable sources, you'll need to cite them. Otherwise, you'll need to remove it. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 16:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::Cut vigorously and reference everything. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 17:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Paranoid Numanoid}} Your personal correspondence cannot be used as a reference - all references need to be published so they could be verified by others.  Also, please remove the link to example.com.  Happy editing!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 23:24, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!! [[User:Paranoid Numanoid|Paranoid Numanoid]] ([[User talk:Paranoid Numanoid|talk]]) 18:13, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

== Digitics247 ==

&nbsp;[[User:RealShivaaa|RealShivaaa]] ([[User talk:RealShivaaa|talk]]) 03:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|RealShivaaa}} Welcome to the Teahouse!  Do you have a question about Wikipedia!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 04:13, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|RealShivaaa}}, you have created [[Draft:Digitics247]], which is a blatant advertisement for a company, and which therefore should be deleted. This is an encyclopedia, not a PR outlet. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 04:41, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
::<s>{{ping|Hoary}} I think these things should be brought up on the User talkpages or elsewhere, and not at the Teahouse unless brought up by the user or directly related to their statements and/or questions. This user literally hasn't said anything, so the comment comes across as aggressive.[[User:Tyrone Madera|Tyrone Madera]] ([[User talk:Tyrone Madera|talk]]) 05:54, 3 March 2021 (UTC)</s>
:::RealShivaaa titled the section Digitics247, so in my opinion the question was implied and Hoary's reply warranted. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 08:51, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
::::{{ping|David notMD}} True, you have a valid point.<s> I've retracted my earlier statement.</s> I didn't even notice the title when I left my comment. I apologize for any damage I've potentially caused. [[User:Tyrone Madera|Tyrone Madera]] ([[User talk:Tyrone Madera|talk]]) 18:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)