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== Capitalising citation template names ==

Currently ProveIt capitalises the word cite in template names e.g. "Cite web" or "Cite book" however I think this should either be turned off or switched to lower case (At least for en wikipedia, I can't speak for the others). After all, the inbuilt [[Wikipedia:RefToolbar/2.0|RefToolbar]] most people now use to add references uses the lower case "cite" and the [[Template:Cite web|template documentations]] also list all the examples using the lower case "cite". – '''[[User:Mesidast|<span style="background:#1047AB; padding:2px;"><span style="color:cyan;">Mesi</span><span style="color:white;">dast</span></span>]]''' ([[User talk:Mesidast|talk]]) 15:14, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

== Normalisation doesn't work with Vector redesign. ==

Using the vector redesign, which is now the default on the english wikipedia: hitting the normalise button in proveit causes it to instead remove all the references that the gadget attempts to edit. I haven't tested the other features yet but I would be personally wary about doing so if normalisation is so obviously broken. [[User:Nathanielcwm|- nathanielcwm]] ([[User talk:Nathanielcwm|talk]]) 03:42, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
: Seems like editing the reference manually works fine, but the preview pane reloading also forces proveit to reload. [[User:Nathanielcwm|- nathanielcwm]] ([[User talk:Nathanielcwm|talk]]) 03:53, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

== Normalisation with names ==

When you press the "normalise everything" button, it changes the parameters <code>last1</code> and <code>first1</code> to just <code>last</code> and <code>first</code>. I'm not sure whether this a bug or even if it means anything, but just incase I thought I'd mention it. [[User:Greyzxq|<span style="color:deeppink; text-shadow:hotpink 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em;"><b>greyzxq</b></span>]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Greyzxq|<span style="color:hotpink; text-shadow:pink 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em;"><i>talk</i></span>]]</sup></small> 19:41, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
:Meaningless.  {{para|last}} is an exact alias of {{para|last1}}.  There is no benefit to making this change.  And, there are other tools ([[User:Citation bot]] comes to mind) that change {{para|last}} to {{para|last1}} – also a meaningless change.  Because the change is meaningless, this tool should stop making these changes.
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 19:47, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks. Just thought I'd make sure it wasn't a bug. [[User:Greyzxq|<span style="color:deeppink; text-shadow:hotpink 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em;"><b>greyzxq</b></span>]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Greyzxq|<span style="color:hotpink; text-shadow:pink 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em;"><i>talk</i></span>]]</sup></small> 20:48, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

== Consistency when normalizing ==

When normalizing references with ProveIt, the {{para|website}} parameter is placed after {{para|access-date}} when using {{tl|Cite web}}, but then {{para|magazine}} is moved to between {{para|url-status}} and {{para|archive-url}} when using {{tl|Cite magazine}}, and for some reason {{para|newspaper}} is incorrectly converted to {{para|work}} and moved to between {{para|title}} and {{para|url}} when using {{tl|Cite news}}. For consistency's sake, please consider having {{para|website}}, {{para|magazine}}, {{para|newspaper}}, {{para|work}}, {{para|publisher}}, {{para|agency}}, and all other aliases be placed after {{para|access-date}} on all citation templates. Thanks. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 05:00, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
:For the record: {{para|website}}, {{para|magazine}}, {{para|newspaper}}, and {{para|work}} along with {{para|journal}} are aliases of {{para|periodical}}.  {{para|agency}} and {{para|publisher}} are not aliases of each other nor are they aliases of {{para|periodical}}.
:
:cs1|2 does not care about the order of parameter placement in the wikitext of a template.  For me, I think that {{para|agency}} should follow the author name-list in {{tlx|cite news}} templates; the periodical aliases should follow the {{para|title}} parameter in {{tlx|cite journal}}, {{tlx|cite magazine}}, {{tlx|cite web}} templates; and {{para|publisher}} (if present in periodical templates) should follow the periodical parameter or {{para|location}} in non-periodical templates.  No doubt others think differently so no matter which ordering is chosen, someone will object so one has to wonder if attempting to 'fix' the OP's complaint will be worth the effort.
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 13:39, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
::I'm referring to web citations. If using {{tl|Cite web}}, ProveIt uses <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>Cite web |last= |first= |date= |title= |url= |url-status=live |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date= '''|website='''}}</code>; if using {{tl|Cite news}}, ProveIt uses <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>Cite news |last= |first= |date= |title= '''|work=''' |url= |url-status=live '''|access-date=''' |archive-url= |archive-date=}}</code>; if using {{tl|Cite magazine}}, ProveIt uses <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>Cite magazine |last= |first= |date= |title= |url= |url-status=live '''|magazine=''' |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date=}}</code>. That is terribly inconsistent. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 18:02, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
:::In [[Special:Diff/1141362993|this test edit]], the previous revision uses a consistent parameter order. You can see what happens when you click "Normalize references", which I thought was supposed to make all citations consistent. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 18:04, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
::::Anyone? [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 17:43, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

== Not loading ==

When I click the [P] icon, it stops loading at three dots. What's happening? <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Kailash29792|<b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b>]] [[User talk:Kailash29792|<span style="color: black;">(talk)</span>]] </span> 06:27, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
* {{Reply| Kailash29792 }} Yes, I noticed it yesterday and continuing today.  It's not just you.  Hope it gets fixed. —[[User talk:GoldRingChip|GoldRingChip]] 14:26, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
::Having the exact same issue on Safari browser. Thanks! [[User:Ekpyros|ElleTheBelle]] 15:07, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
::: Same here. [[User:Miraclepine|ミラP]]@[[User talk:Miraclepine#top|Miraclepine]] 15:32, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Kailash29792|Kailash29792]] @[[User:Ekpyros|Ekpyros]] @[[User:Miraclepine|Miraclepine]] @[[User:GoldRingChip|GoldRingChip]] Thanks for the report, should be fixed in a few minutes, as soon as the cache clears. [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 21:21, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

== {{[[Template:cite ssrn|cite ssrn]]}} |website= ignored CS1 Error ==

When using {{[[Template:cite ssrn|cite ssrn]]}} in ProveIt it shows '''Name of the website''' in bold (as ''''required'''') but using it displays |website= ignored. Can |website be removed for {{[[Template:cite ssrn|cite ssrn]]}}? <br/> pinging @[[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 06:37, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

:Hi! I'm not sure I understand the "ignored" bit, but if you want the "website" parameter to be removed as a required parameter, please [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Cite_ssrn/doc&action=edit&templatedata=edit edit the template data for Template:Cite ssrn] and Proveit will pick it up in a few minutes, cheers! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 14:53, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
::Here's the picture of what i mean. [[File:Cite ssrn website CS1 Error.jpg|thumb|]] [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 05:13, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] I think i see the problem. If  you look at [[Template:Cite_ssrn/doc#TemplateData]] under '''TemplateData for Cite ssrn''' it shows that {{color|red|website is not a valid parameter}}. But in the table that comes next it shows website as status '''required'''. [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 05:35, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] Do you know what needs to be changed in order to fix this? {{small|I don't have any experience messing with TemplateData.}} [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 06:29, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:1AmNobody24|1AmNobody24]] Hi! Well, it seems to me that the "website" parameter isn't required under all circumstances, so it shouldn't be marked as required and I just unmarked it. Proveit should catch up in a few minutes. Could you confirm is the error persistes then? Cheers! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 11:24, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::Hi Sophivorus, 'Name of the website' isn't shown in '''bold''' anymore, but the CS1 Error still remains if I add the website. Should the status at [[Template:Cite_ssrn/doc#TemplateData]] be changed to optional instead of suggested, so it only shows up after hitting 'Show all fields'? [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 11:40, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
::::If you look at {{slink|Template:Cite_ssrn|TemplateData}} you will see a long list of {{color|#d33|error messages}} among which is {{color|#d33|2=<kbd>{{pipe}}website=</kbd> is not a valid parameter}}.  {{tlx|cite ssrn}} does not support {{para|website}} so that parameter should not appear in the TemplateData.  To avoid having my butt chewed (again) because I changed TemplateData, I wrote a Lua script to highlight errors in the TemplateData.  The error messaging worked to fix the errors in the TemplateData of the big-four ({{tlx|cite book}}, {{tlx|cite journal}}, {{tlx|cite news}}, {{tlx|cite web}}) and many others.  Some templates still lag behind.  The thing to do is to fix the TemplateData but because of the aforementioned butt chewing, I shall not be the editor to make those fixes.
::::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 12:11, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::Hi Trappist, I [[Wikipedia:Be bold|went ahead and did this]] {{diff|Template:Cite ssrn/doc|1154429899}}, which I suggested above: {{xt|Should the status at Template:Cite_ssrn/doc#TemplateData be changed to optional instead of suggested, so it only shows up after hitting 'Show all fields}}
:::::It works as intended for ProveIt so I would call this {{Resolved}} [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 12:33, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

== Button overlaps v22 toggle ==

[[File:Screenshot of the Vector-2022 skin's fullscreen toggle.png|frameless|right]]
This toggle appears behind the exact same location as the ProveIt toggle. Is there a way for the ProveIt toggle to shift to the left under Vector 2022? [[:User:Aaron Liu|<span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu</span>]] ([[User talk:Aaron Liu#top|talk]]) 22:42, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

:ProveIt can be moved @[[User:Aaron Liu|Aaron Liu]], just drag and drop it. [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 05:15, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
::Oh wow, thanks! However after opening and closing it it reverts back to its original position. [[:User:Aaron Liu|<span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu</span>]] ([[User talk:Aaron Liu#top|talk]]) 13:37, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Aaron Liu|Aaron Liu]] Hi! You can add the following to [[Special:MyPage/common.css|your common.css]] to change the position of Proveit permantently:
<syntaxhighlight lang="css">
#proveit {
	right: 100px !important;
}
</syntaxhighlight>
:::Kind regards, [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 16:59, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
::::Thanks! Is there a way to change this so it is at its normal position when the button isn't there i.e. when the viewport is too small? [[:User:Aaron Liu|<span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu</span>]] ([[User talk:Aaron Liu#top|talk]]) 20:55, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Aaron Liu|Aaron Liu]] Not sure what you mean, but perhaps something along the following lines:
<syntaxhighlight lang="css">
@media screen and (max-width:600px) {
	#proveit {
		right: 100px !important;
	}
}
</syntaxhighlight>
:::::Good luck! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 22:26, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
::::::After reading some docs, I think what I wanted was min-width, but thank you for the pointer nonetheless! [[:User:Aaron Liu|<span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu</span>]] ([[User talk:Aaron Liu#top|talk]]) 22:44, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

== ProveIt isn't loading templates ==

I have been having problems using ProveIt and I am not sure why. When I select the [ProveIt] button in the bottom right place on my screen, I get a dialog box to add a reference or bibliography, but it doesn't show the list of citation templates and says [no template].

Every now and again, I will see a [reload] or [load] button above ProveIt. And if so, it sometimes fixes the issue.

At the moment, ProveIt or load function + ProveIt are working about 10% of the time. I tried using the classic ProveIt function, but that's not working at all. What can I do to fix it? Or is there a better option for formatting multiple kinds of citations? 

FYI, I am a Mac user using Chrome. Thanks!–[[User:CaroleHenson|CaroleHenson]] ([[User talk:CaroleHenson|talk]]) 19:02, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

::It seems to be working 100% fine today. No need to reload the page. Yay!–[[User:CaroleHenson|CaroleHenson]] ([[User talk:CaroleHenson|talk]]) 19:23, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

== Install not working ==

I have appended &withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-ProveIt.js&withCSS=MediaWiki:Gadget-ProveIt.css to Wikipedia URLs, and enabled and disabled ProveIt in preferences, but there is no change and appending &withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-ProveIt.js&withCSS=MediaWiki:Gadget-ProveIt.css yields "Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name". I have also tried to follow the instructions on the install page. <span style="color:darkblue;"><b>[[User:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:green;">Chamaemelum</span>]]</b></span> (<span style="color:red;"><i>[[User talk:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:purple;">talk</span>]]</i></span>) 23:41, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Chamaemelum|Chamaemelum]] Hmm! Since no one else has reported problems, we'll have to assume it's something about your particular case. What browser are you using? [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 22:06, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
::Hi Sophivorus, thanks for the reply. I'm using Chrome. I tried appending the  in Safari and Edge and it didn't work, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debugging&withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-ProveIt.js&withCSS=MediaWiki:Gadget-ProveIt.css or https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Turbonilla_pagesi&action=edit&withJS=MediaWiki%3AGadget-ProveIt.js. I also have it loaded in my Preferences under Gadgets. However, when not signed in, the latter but not the former link works on both Chrome and Safari. This makes me think there could be a conflict due to something else I've installed. No need to spend much time trying to figure this out with a single user; I posted here in case others have problem or if there happened to be something obvious that I was missing. <span style="color:darkblue;"><b>[[User:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:green;">Chamaemelum</span>]]</b></span> (<span style="color:red;"><i>[[User talk:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:purple;">talk</span>]]</i></span>) 23:21, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Chamaemelum|Chamaemelum]] If the problem is only with the first URL, then the cause may be that it's malformed. The &withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget:ProveIt.js&withCSS=MediaWiki:Gadget-ProveIt.css must follow some other query string parameter, such as action=edit when editing a page. See [[Query string#Structure]] for more. I just [[Special:Diff/1163997854|edited the documentation]] to clarify this, since it lent itself to confusion. Kind regards, [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 13:58, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
::::Thanks! Sorry about that. Interesting that it still doesn't show up automatically when I'm logged in with it installed, though. <span style="color:darkblue;"><b>[[User:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:green;">Chamaemelum</span>]]</b></span> (<span style="color:red;"><i>[[User talk:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:purple;">talk</span>]]</i></span>) 14:06, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
:The ProveIt logo showed up in the bottom right-hand corner of my screen for the first time, and at the same time, it immediately froze the page and my computer kernel panicked, restarted twice, and froze an additional time. Really weird, but I guess that's just me. I have a standard, new computer and browser. <span style="color:darkblue;"><b>[[User:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:green;">Chamaemelum</span>]]</b></span> (<span style="color:red;"><i>[[User talk:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:purple;">talk</span>]]</i></span>) 23:54, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Chamaemelum|Chamaemelum]] Do you have [[Wikipedia:Did you know/DYKcheck|DYKcheck]] enabled too? [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 11:57, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
:::No. It also hasn't happened again. <span style="color:darkblue;"><b>[[User:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:green;">Chamaemelum</span>]]</b></span> (<span style="color:red;"><i>[[User talk:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:purple;">talk</span>]]</i></span>) 17:23, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

== Feature request: auto fetch data from web.archive API ==

As there is an option in the Automatic Reference field and the "Load" button, it would be great if there were something like a "Get latest web.archive data" button on front of the URL field. It could use their API as described at [https://archive.org/help/wayback_api.php] to get the latest archive URL and date, it would be really helpful. :) — [[User:Arthurfragoso|Arthurfragoso]] ([[User talk:Arthurfragoso|talk]]) 10:52, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

I asked [[Anthropic#Claude|Claude AI]] to implement the changes, but I still had to do some manual changes. A bit hackish, but it works. Add the following code:

 if (inputName === 'url') {
   $button = $('<button>').text('getArchive');
   $div.prepend($button);
   $button.on('click', $input, function(event) {
 
     $.getJSON('https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=' + encodeURIComponent(event.data.val()))
       .done(function(data) {
 
         // Check if archived
         if (data.archived_snapshots.closest) {
 
           // Get closest snapshot
           var snapshot = data.archived_snapshots.closest;
           var curstatus = $('#proveit [name=url-status]');
 
           // Populate fields
           if(!curstatus.val()) {
             curstatus.val('live');
           }
           $('#proveit [name=archive-url]').val(snapshot.url.replace(/^http:\/\//, "https://"));
           $('#proveit [name=archive-date]').val(snapshot.timestamp.slice(0, 8).replace(/(\d{4})(\d{2})(\d{2})/, '$1-$2-$3'));
 
         } else {
           alert('URL not archived');
         }
 
       })
       .fail(function() {
         alert('Error accessing Wayback Machine API');
       });
 
   });
 }

just before the <code>if ( paramData.type === 'date' ) {</code>

— [[User:Arthurfragoso|Arthurfragoso]] ([[User talk:Arthurfragoso|talk]]) 05:53, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Arthurfragoso|Arthurfragoso]] Hi! I just implemented an Archive button based on your code. Unfortunately your code makes several assumptions about the names of parameters and only works for the English Wikipedia, so I had to modify it to make it cross-wiki, which for now means it only shows you the archived URL and you have to copy it to the appropriate field. But it's way better than nothing and at least it works for all wikis. [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 14:59, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

== [[Template:Cite Instagram]] ==

I would like this to be added, the same way {{tl|Cite tweet}} is there. Because copying and pasting the syntax everytime is annoying. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Kailash29792|<b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b>]] [[User talk:Kailash29792|<span style="color: black;">(talk)</span>]] </span> 04:34, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Kailash29792|Kailash29792]] Done! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 20:11, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

== Remove of date disambiguation  ==

In [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Cleopatra&diff=prev&oldid=1178488875 this edit] to [[Cleopatra]], the date disambiguation was removed causing [[:Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors|no target errors]]. Is it standard behaviour of ProveIt to remove such disambiguation? -- LCU '''[[User:ActivelyDisinterested|ActivelyDisinterested]]''' <small>''∆[[User talk:ActivelyDisinterested|transmissions]]∆'' °[[Special:Contributions/ActivelyDisinterested|co-ords]]°</small> 10:35, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:ActivelyDisinterested|ActivelyDisinterested]] I think not. I just tried editing the old version of the article and editing the reference with ProveIt, and the date disambiguation was preserved. Thus, I think its removal was a mistake by the editor, rather than ProveIt. [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 13:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks, it's a common (and easy) editor mistake. I just want to make sure it wasn't a systematic issue. -- LCU '''[[User:ActivelyDisinterested|ActivelyDisinterested]]''' <small>''∆[[User talk:ActivelyDisinterested|transmissions]]∆'' °[[Special:Contributions/ActivelyDisinterested|co-ords]]°</small> 13:48, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

== {{T|Cite AV media notes}} isn't covered ==

ProveIt doesn't actually help with this template at all, as no template-specific params have rows. Please fix. [[Special:Contributions/47.188.17.45|47.188.17.45]] ([[User talk:47.188.17.45|talk]]) 06:30, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

== Pipes are not escaped ==

After auto-loading the citation with [https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/results/cmll-grand-prix-8182023-results-mistico-takahashi-kushida-samuray-del-sol-more-compete this article], the pipe in the title was not escape when the template code was inserted. [[:User:Aaron Liu|<span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu</span>]] ([[User talk:Aaron Liu#top|talk]]) 16:12, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
:Seconding this request, usage of piping characters has become more and more frequent. [[User:Greenman|Greenman]] ([[User talk:Greenman|talk]]) 12:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

== {{tl|Cite map}} not working ==

When I select {{tl|Cite map}} from ProveIt's template dropdown, I get the message "No template data found" Thanks! -[[User:Furicorn|Furicorn]] ([[User talk:Furicorn|talk]]) 12:37, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Furicorn|Furicorn]] That's because [[Template:Cite map]] doesn't have any [[Wikipedia:TemplateData|template data]] defined. Feel free to add some! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 20:12, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]], looks like the template data page already exists at [[Template:Cite map/TemplateData]], so I submitted an edit request to get it added to cite map documentation page. -[[User:Furicorn|Furicorn]] ([[User talk:Furicorn|talk]]) 20:59, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
:::{{reply to|Furicorn|Sophivorus}} It should work now. [[User:Rjjiii|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">Rjj<sup>iii</sup></span>]] ([[User talk:Rjjiii#top|talk]]) 01:08, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
::::I don't use this tool or that abomination that is visual editor.  That said, what you did is not making any sense to me.
::::
::::I presume that this tool works correctly with {{tlx|cite book}} which has its TemplateData at [[Template:Cite book/TemplateData]].  Similarly, {{tlx|cite map}} has a TemplateData subpage at [[Template:Cite map/TemplateData]].
::::
::::At {{slink|Template:Cite book|TemplateData}} there is a wikilink to [[Template:Cite book/TemplateData]].  [[Special:Permalink/1176476098|This version of Template:cite map/doc]] (before your edits) does not have §TemplateData and therefore no wikilink to the TemplateData subpage.
::::
::::If this tool works for {{tld|cite book}} then, if we apply the same wikilink 'trick', this tool should also work for {{tld|cite map}}.  Seems to me that the correct 'fix' here is to make {{tld|cite map}} like {{tld|cite book}}.  Someone who uses this tool should make that test and report back.
::::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 01:57, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::ok i did it to match {{tld|cite map}} like {{tld|cite book}} - it had been a while since I'd edited doc pages when I made the edit request and I was a bit rusty. Right now it's still saying "no template data," but iirc it's pretty typical for changes to need time to propagate through the wiki before it can be tested. -[[User:Furicorn|Furicorn]] ([[User talk:Furicorn|talk]]) 04:04, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
::::: Update: I checked, looks like it works as expected now, I can use ProveIt to easily leave a nice templated citation for a map. -[[User:Furicorn|Furicorn]] ([[User talk:Furicorn|talk]]) 19:41, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

== Consistency for work parameter ==

I am once again asking for {{tl|Cite magazine}} and {{tl|Cite news}} to place {{para|magazine}} and {{para|newspaper}} after {{para|access-date}}, as {{tl|Cite web}} currently does with {{para|website}} and {{para|publisher}}. This is the only parameter whose placement ProveIt is inconsistent with when normalizing references. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 22:39, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

:{{yo|InfiniteNexus}} This happens because {{para|magazine}} and {{para|newspaper}} are listed before {{para|access-date}} in the TemplateData for those templates. Switching the order should fix this. — [[User talk:MaterialWorks|<span style="color:#00008b">Material</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MaterialWorks|<span style="color:darkslategray">Works</span>]] 15:32, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
::Is it not possible for ProveIt to use a different order than the templates' TemplateData? [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 19:18, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Not that I know of. — [[User talk:MaterialWorks|<span style="color:#00008b">Material</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MaterialWorks|<span style="color:darkslategray">Works</span>]] 19:22, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
:Will ProveIt allow an editor to publish an edit using it if the only function it is performing is the reordering of template parameters? This would seem to violate [[WP:COSMETICBOT]] if so. I've seen it come close: in [[Special:Diff/1183535916|this diff]], it reorders some template parameters while misparameterising two values, doing nothing constructive.{{pb}}A follow up thread related to the OP here is active at [[Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 91#Consistency in parameter order]], should the maintainers wish to engage. Happy Friday, [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 11:49, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ProveIt allows you to do it, but that doesn't one should. If that's all someone is doing, it's not just [[Wikipedia:COSMETICBOT|COSMETICBOT]], but also [[Wikipedia:MEATBOT|MEATBOT]] behaviour and clearly disruptive. [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 12:14, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
:::I'd gently suggest that disabling the functionality to publish edits that solely reorder parameters be incorporated into future builds. Not all editors using the gadget will be familiar with bot policy, and it seems safer to prevent that behaviour in the software than to course-correct editors through education. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 12:23, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] What's your take on this? [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 12:25, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::Detecting if the only changes done are cosmetic, would be disproportionately difficult to code and prone to errors. A simpler solution may be to introduce a config option to disable the "Normalize all" button for the English Wikipedia (since it's the only wiki with this concern so far), or showing a warning with a link to [[WP:COSMETICBOT]] or similar when the button is clicked. I lean towards the second because some users may still find the functionality useful and I anticipate that if we disable it, we'll soon have people in this talk page asking about it. [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 13:24, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::I would not be opposed to adding a warning/notice, similar to how [[User:PleaseStand/References segregator]] has a warning when users attempt to convert an article to LDRs. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 23:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Done, see [[Special:Diff/1187786002|here]]. Let me know of any issues or ideas for improvement, cheers! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 11:25, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 17:53, 1 December 2023 (UTC)