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== Accounting ethics GAN ==

I have nominated [[accounting ethics]] at GAN to hopefully bring the total number of GAs for the project up to three. I would appreciate it if anybody could take a look and check for any errors prior to somebody reviewing the article. --Happy editing! [[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nehrams2020|contrib]]) 01:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

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== GA Sweeps Reassessment of [[Single Audit]] ==

[[Single Audit]] has been nominated for a [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment|good article reassessment]]. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to [[Wikipedia:What is a good article?|good article quality]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are [[Talk:Single Audit{{#if:|/GA{{{page}}}}}|here]]. --[[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 00:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
:I have left my comments at [[Talk:Single Audit/GA1]] along the lines that there is no evidence that this topic is notable, so I am not sure why it is being even considered as a Good Article candidate. --[[User:Gavin.collins|Gavin Collins]] ([[User talk:Gavin.collins#top|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Gavin.collins|contribs)]] 08:09, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
== Heqanakht papyri ==

Does anyone know about the [[Heqanakht papyri]], or could write something about Egyptian accounting to add to [[Accounting#Early_history|Accounting Early History]] section? --[[User:Gavin.collins|Gavin Collins]] ([[User talk:Gavin.collins#top|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Gavin.collins|contribs)]] 10:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

::I don´t know if Dr Gary Giroux would know something about this. He is writing a book about accounting history. His details are here [http://acct.tamu.edu/giroux/]

[[User:PennySeven|PennySeven]] ([[User talk:PennySeven|talk]]) 21:56, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

== The first accountant ==

Anyone interested in doing an article about Amatino Manucci, the first accountant? Here is the info [http://acct.tamu.edu/giroux/FIRST.html]

[[User:PennySeven|PennySeven]] ([[User talk:PennySeven|talk]]) 22:03, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Certainly notable, I think, as compared to Pacioli being the first accounting textbook author. I think it is important to make the distinction between the two as Giroux is making.
[[User:PennySeven|PennySeven]] ([[User talk:PennySeven|talk]]) 22:08, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

== [[Stock]] ==

[[Stock]] needs to be fixed. It is a very confusing article treating a company´s market capitalization and its shareholders´ equity value as the same item. 

[[User:PennySeven|PennySeven]] ([[User talk:PennySeven|talk]]) 18:49, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

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== A Brief History of Double Entry Book-keeping ==

A new 10-part series "A Brief History of Double Entry Book-keeping" starting on Monday, 8th of March 2010 at 15:45 GMT  on BBC Radio 4[http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00r401p]. --[[User:Gavin.collins|Gavin Collins]] ([[User talk:Gavin.collins#top|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Gavin.collins|contribs)]] 12:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
== I'll start four FASBs ==

I intend to write during the month of september 2010 four articles on the following FASB statements: 65, 91, 114, and 117 (see my user page). After those I plan in writing at least another 5 FASBs by end of October. Please drop by my talk page if you need to work on those too so that we may collaborate. --<span style="font-family: Gothic;">[[User:Sulmues|'''<big>S</big>'''ulmues]] <sup>([[User talk:Sulmues|talk]])</sup></span> 16:34, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:Do you have any sources about the history of FASB's? --[[User:Gavin.collins|Gavin Collins]] ([[User talk:Gavin.collins#top|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Gavin.collins|contribs)]] 11:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
::I don't, but I'll just focus on the FASBs as stated. See [[User:Sulmues/Sandbox/FAS_91]]. What do you think? I also worked on [[Installment Sales Method]] today. Please review and let me know. --<span style="font-family: Gothic;">[[User:Sulmues|'''<big>S</big>'''ulmues]] <sup>([[User talk:Sulmues|talk]])</sup></span> 15:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
:::You will need some third party coverage to demonstrate notability, and provide context to the reader. The way that the FASB's are written is that the audience is assumed to be accountants, but they won't be understood by a more general audience. What this means in practice is that you will need to find more commentary, criticism or analysis that paints a broader picture than just the mechanics of the FASB itself. --[[User:Gavin.collins|Gavin Collins]] ([[User talk:Gavin.collins#top|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Gavin.collins|contribs)]] 15:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Agreed. I'll just need to keep writing. I have some sources. --<span style="font-family: Gothic;">[[User:Sulmues|'''<big>S</big>'''ulmues]] <sup>([[User talk:Sulmues|talk]])</sup></span> 11:44, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
== [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[Hong Kong Engagement Standards]] ==

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== New Infobox Template for Accountancy bodies ==

I have created a new infobox template for accounting bodies at {{tlx|infobox accounting body}}. Its time that the accountancy task force takes up the task of implementing the template in all accounting body articles. Some of these articles already have a infobox which needs to be replaced with this one. is a good place to start with.<span style="color:white; text-shadow: 0 0 24px skyblue, 0 0 4px skyblue, 1px 1px 2px #333;">[[User:SivaneshR | R.Sivanesh]]  [[User talk:SivaneshR#top|✆]]</span> 16:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

== Indian Accounting Standards ==

[[Indian Accounting Standards]] need to be amplified with more specific details. Also important difference with existing Indian ccounting standards need to be included. concepts of fair value and [[MTM]] needs to be included. pls help.  --[[User:Vi1618|Vi1618]] ([[User talk:Vi1618|talk]]) 16:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

[[User:Sweetmat|Sweetmat]] ([[User talk:Sweetmat|talk]]) 10:00, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

== Renaming the Accountancy Task Force to Institute of Wiki Accountants ==

I have a strategic proposal to rename the Accountancy Task Force to Institute of Wiki Accountants. Since the name resembles a Professional accounting body, it will instantly become popular and the furtherance of articles on accountancy will become much easier. We can offer the designation '''Wiki Accountant''' to the project participants. We can create a Userbox for the users to designate themselves as Wiki Accountants. It may be a good step forward and may attract more resourceful persons. This renaming is legally allowed in wikipedia and precedents are already available. For e.g. we have [[Guild of copy editors | Guild of Copy Editors]] which is wikiproject which portrays itself to be a association. I request all interested participants to reply to this post for or against the proposal.--<span style="color:white; text-shadow: 0 0 24px skyblue, 0 0 4px skyblue, 1px 1px 2px #333;">[[User:Sivanesh | R.Sivanesh]]  <sup>[[User talk:Sivanesh#top|✆]] [[Special:Contributions/Sivanesh|©]]</sup></span> 10:23, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
:Great idea!  I like your pointing to the Guild of Copy Editors as a good example to follow, and i'd be happy to be one of the "Wiki Accountants".  Why "Institute", though?  I note that "Guild" implies a loose association of equal peers, while "Institute" might imply a more formal structure.  Maybe the idea can be tweaked a little.  Basically, i like the idea, and '''SUPPORT''' making such a name change. --[[User:doncram|<span style="color:maroon;">do</span>]][[User talk:Doncram|<span style="color:green;">ncr</span>]][[Special:Contributions/doncram|<span style="color:maroon;">am</span>]] 18:15, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
::I proposed the name Institute because anyone who is related to accountancy will probably be a member of a [[professional accountancy body]]. Normally such bodies follow the nomenclature of Institute. This name will not only be very comfortable and know to them but also increase the dignity of the task force. For e.g. if the project banner in an articles talk page says that the article is supported by the Institute of Wiki Accountants, it will not only be appealing but also portray some kind of professionalism. Over the years, if the issue kicks off, we can even have elected co-ordinators. --<span style="color:white; text-shadow: 0 0 24px skyblue, 0 0 4px skyblue, 1px 1px 2px #333;">[[User:Sivanesh | R.Sivanesh]]  <sup>[[User talk:Sivanesh#top|✆]] [[Special:Contributions/Sivanesh|©]]</sup></span> 20:22, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
: Would an ''Institute of Wiki Accountants'' be limited to professional accountants? The name may give that impression. Is that something we want? An ''Accountancy Task Force'' would obviously be for people with an interest in accounting, but perhaps not just professional accountants. [[User:Folklore1|Folklore1]] ([[User talk:Folklore1|talk]]) 02:37, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
::It's not like that. Anyone who wishes to contribute to accountancy articles will be termed as a '''Wiki Accountant'''. It will not be a professional qualification. It will only show the pride of contributing to accountancy articles.--<span style="color:white; text-shadow: 0 0 24px skyblue, 0 0 4px skyblue, 1px 1px 2px #333;">[[User:Sivanesh | R.Sivanesh]]  <sup>[[User talk:Sivanesh#top|✆]] [[Special:Contributions/Sivanesh|©]]</sup></span> 05:58, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:[[IMHO]], the proposed name is not an improvement; to my mind it is misleading, as indicated by Folklore1, and sounds less than sensible, because we do not account for wikis (cf. for instance [[ICWAI]]). For Accountants who belong to an Association rather than an Institute, the name may actually put them off. If the ATF needs kick-starting, then a recruitment drive among [[:Category:Wikipedian accountants]] may be a place to start, perhaps preceded by improving the focus with a short list of articles to be improved (I would point out [[Talk:Matching principle]] for a start). - [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|(talk)]] 09:57, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
:I '''oppose''' this name change. I'm a Chartered Accountant but do not in any way consider myself a "wiki accountant" - I'm an accountant who sometimes edits wikipedia articles. I feel that the use of "Institute" in the proposed name is an attempt to assert a claim that the task force is somehow an authority on [[accountancy]] topics - of course we all recognise that this is not the case. [[User:AnthonyUK|AnthonyUK]] ([[User talk:AnthonyUK|talk]]) 16:37, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
:: Ok, if use of the name Institute is the cause of concern, what about the name '''Guild of Wiki Accountants'''. As pointed out by Doncram, Guild would give the meaning of a loose association of equal peers. We have to do something to further the accountancy articles and why not this?..--<span style="color:white; text-shadow: 0 0 24px skyblue, 0 0 4px skyblue, 1px 1px 2px #333;">[[User:Sivanesh | R.Sivanesh]]  <sup>[[User talk:Sivanesh#top|✆]] [[Special:Contributions/Sivanesh|©]]</sup></span> 17:08, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
::: "Guild" would be more appropriate than "institute". However, a "task force" would be more inclusive, allowing participants who are not professional accountants. If you prefer a group limited to professional accounts, than "guild" would be appropriate. [[User:Folklore1|Folklore1]] ([[User talk:Folklore1|talk]]) 12:39, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
: '''Strong oppose'''. Hey guys. I'm relatively new to this task force, but here's my two cents: I oppose the name change because the definition of institutes is rather different from what we're doing here ([[Institute|institutes "are often research organisations"]], they [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/institute can refer to institutions of learning]), and the word in general refer to [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/institute organizations founded to promote a cause] - which we aren't exactly doing). Also, I would argue that using the [[WP:GOCE|guild of copy-editors]] is a weak comparison because IMHO the word [[guild]] carries a lot less of its original meaning today than does the word [[institute]].-'''[[User:Samuel Tan|<span style="color:#EE4400">Samuel</span>]] [[User talk:Samuel Tan|<span style="color:#0000DD">''Tan''</span>]]''' 11:39, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

== Userbox proposal ==

A model userbox for Wiki Accountants is under:
{{User:Sivanesh/IWA|nocat=true}}
anyone is welcome to improve it.--<span style="color:white; text-shadow: 0 0 24px skyblue, 0 0 4px skyblue, 1px 1px 2px #333;">[[User:Sivanesh | R.Sivanesh]]  <sup>[[User talk:Sivanesh#top|✆]] [[Special:Contributions/Sivanesh|©]]</sup></span> 21:57, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
:I '''oppose''' this change, because I think Accountancy is a more inclusive term than Accountants. The latter term would exclude professors, students, attorneys, managers, and other folks who don't think of themselves as primarily accountants. [[User:Otto Neubauer|Otto Neubauer]] ([[User talk:Otto Neubauer|talk]]) 17:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
:I too '''oppose''' this change for the same reasons mentioned by Otto. In addition, please do not use the word "furtherance" if you decide to change the user-box - it sounds awkward. Rather use "development" or "expansion" if you wish to change this.[[User:Sweetmat|Sweetmat]] ([[User talk:Sweetmat|talk]]) 10:00, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. I'm not bothered by the distinction between accounting and accountancy (they're used interchangeably where I come from), but the phrasing is just rather unsuitable for a userbox in my opinion. And anyway the current userbox is already quite matter-of-fact; there's no need to replace it with one that sounds even more serious.-'''[[User:Samuel Tan|<span style="color:#EE4400">Samuel</span>]] [[User talk:Samuel Tan|<span style="color:#0000DD">''Tan''</span>]]''' 11:44, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
== ACCPAC ==

[[ACCPAC]] has been nominated for deletion. [[Special:Contributions/65.93.12.101|65.93.12.101]] ([[User talk:65.93.12.101|talk]]) 05:15, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

== [[certified accountant]] ==

[[certified accountant]] and [[Certified Accountant]] currently redirect to [[Certified Public Accountant]], which is dedicated to the US topic.  Other countries are listed at [[Certified Accountant (disambiguation)]].  My instinctive reaction was that this feels like the US topic being given too much prominence, as the title "certified accountant" is a [[WP:COMMONNAME]] used across the globe, and the exact name "Certified Accountant" was the title of UK [[Chartered Certified Accountant]]s from 1906?-1996.  At the same time, I wouldnt be surprised if there is a valid justification for the US topic being deemed the most common use of the term. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] <sup>'''([[User talk:John Vandenberg|chat]])'''</sup></span> 02:51, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
:Well spotted, thanks. I've cleaned up that page and the redirects. While we are on the subject: in case anyone else can help, [[Association of Chartered Certified Accountants]] is a right mess at the moment! - [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|(talk)]] 18:50, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

== [[Cash method of accounting]] ==

I wrote today the [[Cash method of accounting]] article, but I am aware that it is very much US based, and it would need the help of several editors so that it can reach a higher level of quality. I thought that bringing it here would attract interested parties for a successful collaboration. I intend to write other articles in the accounting field, so anytime you have an idea or need help with your own articles, please feel free to drop by my talk page.[[User:Markerdryer|Markerdryer]] ([[User talk:Markerdryer|talk]]) 20:21, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

== Renaming of [[:Category:International Accounting Standards]] ==

Hey guys. I've put up a CFR to rename [[:Category:International Accounting Standards]] to [[:Category:International Financial Reporting Standards]]. I've listed my reasons in detail at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_April_22#Category:International_Accounting_Standards the CFD page], so if you have comments or would like to voice either support or non-support, please do so there so the admins can hear your opinion. :) '''[[User:Well-rested|<span style="font-family: Garamond;color:#EE4400">Well-rested</span>]][[User talk:Well-rested|<span style="font-family: Garamond;color:#EE6E00"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]]''' 04:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
:Looks like the moves been done. :) -'''[[User:Well-rested|<span style="font-family: Garamond;color:#EE4400">Well-rested</span>]][[User talk:Well-rested|<span style="font-family: Garamond;color:#EE6E00"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]]''' 09:00, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

== Introducing myself - New user - Andrew Read ==

I am a new user on this site.  The introduction asked for users with access to University libraries.  Well, that's me.  I am on the Faculty at the University of Canberra in Australia.  I am also the author of a very old textbook on financial accounting.  I am encouraging my undergraduate students to improve the Wikipedia financial accounting pages by setting my final year students an assignment to analyse a page relevant to financial accounting using Wikipedia's criteria for a good article and then to write an improved article.  I will be asking the students who submitted the best assignments to post their assignments to Wikipedia.  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:AndrewRead|AndrewRead]] ([[User talk:AndrewRead|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AndrewRead|contribs]]) 13:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== It's fun to charter an accountant... ==

And much less fun to do work for free. That said, [[net income]] and [[net profit]] need a major overhaul, first to explain the terms lucidly on their own merits without simply listing a bunch of hyperlinked acronyms but more importantly to clearly and deliberately distinguish them from one another and from [[net revenue]], which seemingly means net income but currently links to net profit, which itself is given as a synonym for net income on its page. —&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">LlywelynII</span>]] 06:45, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Net earnings is another one... —&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">LlywelynII</span>]] 06:47, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
:Hey LlywelynII. A problem with the [[net income]] article is that net profit is usually defined with respect to other accounting variables, as a residual. So it's not possible to explain it on its "own merits". A few days back I updated the lede to make it more coherent (and accurate), but the rest of the article still needs quite a bit of work, yes. -'''[[User:Well-rested|<span style="font-family: Garamond;color:#EE4400">Well-rested</span>]][[User talk:Well-rested|<span style="font-family: Garamond;color:#EE6E00"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]]''' 08:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
While FASB and IFRS define net profit as a residual it can be explained on its own merits.  British economist J.R. Hicks wrote the seminal book on this topic in 1946.  The reference is Hicks, J. R. (1946). Value and capital: An inquiry into some fundamental principles of economic theory (2nd ed.). Oxford: Clarendon Press.  When I have time I will add Hicks definition to the article on net income. --[[User:AndrewRead|AndrewRead]] ([[User talk:AndrewRead|talk]]) 13:33, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

== [[:Template:Social accountability]] ==

Hello, I'd like to invite input and contributions from Accountancy Task Force editors to a new navbox, [[:Template:Social accountability]]. I've tried to assemble a mini-gateway to a set of related articles. Some editors here may have further suggestions. The topic that started me on this was ''Social auditing''; currently this redirects to [[Social accounting]]. I am particularly interested in any suggestions that might strengthen the ''Auditing'' and ''Reporting'' sections of the template. Thank you & Kind regards, [[User:DASonnenfeld|DA Sonnenfeld]] ([[User talk:DASonnenfeld|talk]]) 18:21, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

== Interested users? ==

Hello! I have been watching several Accountancy-related pages for several years now and making small edits here and there (particularly on [[Debits and credits]]) and I am interested in joining the task force. However, I don't see on the WikiProject page any rules you might have for editors interested in joining, other than a list with no instructions. Shall I just add myself to the list? Cheers! [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] ([[User talk:Ivanvector|talk]]) 16:01, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

:: Never mind, I found instructions in the invite template. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] ([[User talk:Ivanvector|talk]]) 16:09, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

== Liability ==

Wikipedia should cover the area of auditor liability, e.g. [[Audit]] and [[Accreditation]] could really use sections
on liability - i.e.  the auditor's solvency and reputation is put on the line, (with examples, such as the enron scandal's on Anderson as well as less notable cases).  Should, practically and legally speaking, discuss the liability shouldered by performance of an audit and public release of an audit letter or accreditation statement.  Anyone? --[[User:Elvey|Elvey]] ([[User talk:Elvey|talk]]) 19:56, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

== Improving the Accountancy article ==
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Hello, Taskforce! I've been doing quite a bit of work on the [[Accountancy|Accountancy article]], restructuring the lede and shifting the previously-massive [[Accountancy#History|History section]] to [[History of accounting|its own page]] with significant updates. I think the updated page is now ready for some significant improvements by the community, so I'd like to invite you guys to metaphorically stride over to the page [[WP:BOLD|boldly]] and improve the article.

I've listed some initial issues for discussion [[Talk:Accountancy#Improving Accountancy|here at the article's talk page]], so do head over there if you'd like to help. 

- '''[[User:Well-rested|<span style="font-family: Garamond;color:#EE4400">Well-rested</span>]][[User talk:Well-rested|<span style="font-family: Garamond;color:#EE6E00"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]]''' 10:52, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
: Heads up: there's an [[Talk:Accountancy#Article title|ongoing discussion]] over at the Accountancy talk page '''regarding the article title''', and in particular regarding [[Talk:Accountancy#Which term is more commonly used?|which term is more commonly used]]. We'd like to establish broad consensus before implementing any changes, so do head over if you'd like to contribute. -'''[[User:Well-rested|<span style="font-family: Garamond;color:#EE4400">Well-rested</span>]][[User talk:Well-rested|<span style="font-family: Garamond;color:#EE6E00"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]]''' 05:09, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[Accountancy (disambiguation)]] ==
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The article [[Accountancy (disambiguation)]] has been [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed for deletion]]&#32; because of the following concern:
:'''Not necessary to disambiguate this topic. Delete per [[WP:TWODABS]] as there are only two related articles and [[Accountancy]] is clearly the primary topic, and it is unlikely that another "accountancy" topic will be listed which is not related to one of these two articles. [[Accountant]] is linked from Accountancy, and [[Accountancy (constituency)]] is linked via hatnote.'''

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== [[Requirements of IFRS]] is up for deletion ==

The article [[Requirements of IFRS]] has been nominated for deletion, with the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Requirements of IFRS]]. Comments are welcome. --[[User:Mark viking|Mark viking]] ([[User talk:Mark viking|talk]]) 18:56, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

==Accounting articles==
Many of the pages currently in {{cl|Accounting articles}} are about business or finance generally rather than accounting, e.g. bankers, State Comptrollers and corporate takeovers, so "|Accountancy=yes"  or "|Accounting=yes" should be removed from their talk pages. Would [[user:Well-rested]] or [[user:Nehrams2020]] care to comment, as I happen to have reverted two each of your classifications today? – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Fayenatic london|<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>]]'''[[User talk:Fayenatic london|ondon]] 21:53, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

== Proposed rename to Accounting task force ==

As the main article was moved from Accountancy to Accounting, I propose to rename this to the Accounting task force. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Fayenatic london|<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>]]'''[[User talk:Fayenatic london|ondon]] 10:27, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support''' but rename to Accounting Taskforce, following naming convention of other Wikipedia taskforces. ''Alternatively'', move this to a full-fledged WikiProject Accounting. I think there are enough articles to warrant it now. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] ([[User talk:Ivanvector|talk]]) 13:50, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
**Which other projects are called "Taskforce"?  I looked today and found very many that are "task force" and only a few that are "Task Force"[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=250&offset=0&redirs=0&ns4=1&search=intitle%3Atask+force] or "Taskforce"[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=250&offset=0&redirs=0&ns4=1&search=intitle%3ATaskforce] (including [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Taskforces]]). Counting is difficult because [[Wikipedia:Cleanup Taskforce]] has many sub-pages. I participate in category renaming at [[WP:CFD]] and we mostly see changes to "task force". – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Fayenatic london|<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>]]'''[[User talk:Fayenatic london|ondon]] 16:24, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
***There may be enough articles to justify a new wikiproject, but probably not enough active editors. We in the Business and Finance wikiprojects can always help with the less technical aspects of accounting articles, but I guess those of us whose competency is limited to bookkeeping or investments are unlikely to join another wikiproject. --[[User:Hro%C3%B0ulf|Hroðulf]] (or Hrothulf) ([[User talk:Hro%C3%B0ulf|Talk]]) 16:32, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
****I agree with Hroðulf about not splitting this to a separate WikiProject. The state of accounting articles here is still generally poor. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Fayenatic london|<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>]]'''[[User talk:Fayenatic london|ondon]] 16:37, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
::::*Let's let this discussion run and establish a consensus before doing any more arbitrary page moves, eh? I'm not opposed to calling this "task force" versus "Taskforce", but I've been working for the last few days on renaming things (like categories & templates & such) to match the existing name, and I'd like to see that we've decided on something before doing all that work again. I don't think anyone here is going to oppose changing "Accountancy" to "Accounting" - nobody did in the most recent page move discussion, although there was one editor who wanted to change to a different name altogether. As for "task force" versus "Taskforce", I like the single word because it feels powerful, however it turns out there is a [[WP:Taskforce|guide to task forces]] already, so I support changing to "Accounting task force". [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] ([[User talk:Ivanvector|talk]]) 20:12, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::*I beg your pardon, I only noticed the old move of the main page today and reverted it, and did not realise there had been other recent work related to it. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Fayenatic london|<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>]]'''[[User talk:Fayenatic london|ondon]] 21:49, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::*Apologies to you as well, the move from the original name was way back in 2012! I assumed that "Accountancy Taskforce" was the original name because it had been that way since before I was involved. I've withdrawn my requested move of [[:Category:Accountancy task force]] pending the outcome of this discussion, and I think you already undid my other changes. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] ([[User talk:Ivanvector|talk]]) 23:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
*This discussion seems to have run its course, and there's no opposition or reason to expect there will be opposition. Want to go ahead with the move, {{ul|Fayenatic london}}? You seem to be more efficient at it than I am. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] ([[User talk:Ivanvector|talk]]) 15:39, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
**OK, thanks. I've done the main page and templates, and will nominate the categories. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Fayenatic london|<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>]]'''[[User talk:Fayenatic london|ondon]] 22:58, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

== Overlapping articles ==

Hey guys, thought I'd see what the consensus was before editing some of this task force's articles.  I've noticed that the various [[time value of money]]-related articles have grown to overlap each other greatly.  Some examples:
*[[Time value of money]]
*[[Present value]]
*[[Net present value]]
*[[Discounting]]
*[[Discount rate]]
*[[Discounted cash flow]]
*[[Cash flow]]
*[[Engineering economics]]
Where some of these articles have large sections of rewritten information from the main article.  What is yall's opinion of organizing these a little better and consolidating the redundant content?  I've already done a little bit (though fairly poorly) with the [[present value]] article.  
Additionally, I think it would be pretty helpful to have one of the related article tables at the bottom or side of each of these pages, as they are all highly related.  Thoughts?  --'''[[User:Zojj|Zojj]]''' [[User_talk:Zojj|t]][[Special:Contributions/Zojj|c]] 18:41, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
:Could we agree that [[Time value of money]] is the main topic for all of these? Creating a navbox would be fairly simple. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] ([[User talk:Ivanvector|talk]]) 18:54, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

== [[Draft:Management accounting control systems]] ==

Hello accountants!  This old abandoned draft will soon be deleted unless someone who understands it fixes it up for mainspace.   Is this a notable topic?  &mdash;[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 02:06, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

== Expert attention ==

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== Institute of Certified Public Accountants of Pakistan - not a professional accounting body ==

I have found several links/references on Wikipedia to "Institute of Certified Public Accountants of Pakistan (ICPAP)" being presented as a professional accounting body. According to its own website, ICPAP does not confer any degrees as defined in the UGC/HEC Act (<ref></ref>http://icpap.com.pk/index.php/about-cpa/cpa-history). I would appreciate if persons maintaining the various pages can delete ICPAP as it is misleading information.[[User:Shman2007|Shman2007]] ([[User talk:Shman2007|talk]]) 12:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
*{{Ping|Shman2007}} in most countries, conferring degrees and awarding professional qualifications are not connected. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Fayenatic london|<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>]]'''[[User talk:Fayenatic london|ondon]] 15:44, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
**{{Ping|Fayenatic london}} in the country of ICPAP (i.e. Pakistan) the accounting bodies are established under an Act of parliament or Ordinance issued by the President of the country. ICPAP has neither of that to claim legitimacy.[[User:Shman2007|Shman2007]] ([[User talk:Shman2007|talk]]) 19:12, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
***In that case, if it has neither official standing nor notability for other reasons, feel free to be [[WP:BOLD]] and remove places where it is improperly mentioned. Just be sure to give an explanation each time in the edit summary. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Fayenatic london|<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>]]'''[[User talk:Fayenatic london|ondon]] 18:35, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

== Commercial accounting ==

Does anybody here have any idea about the term "commercial accounting" ? I have seen this term in [[Special:search/"commercial accounting"|some pages]], but none of them define it. I wonder if this is an outdated branch or a minor one under a major branch like [[financial accounting]]. --[[User:Quest for Truth|Quest for Truth]] ([[User talk:Quest for Truth|talk]]) 15:32, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

==Move==
[[Talk:Accountancy_Constituency_(Hong_Kong)#Requested_move_2_May_2016]] [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 16:56, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

== Deletion discussion on a draft outline page ==

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Leaving a note here for members who might be interested in this discussion. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]]&nbsp;[[User:Ivanvector#The Maple Leaf|<span style="color:red">🍁</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Ivanvector|talk]]) 11:40, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

: Everyone must oppose this and create an accounting law article. Contrary to one lunatic's theories, see [https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/4okgne/wikipedians_argue_about_a_draft_outline_about/ these sources]. [[Special:Contributions/107.77.228.186|107.77.228.186]] ([[User talk:107.77.228.186|talk]]) 00:15, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

== Please evaluate a new draft at AFC ==

Please take a look at [[Draft:Replacement Approach Deprecation]] and give an opinion of the subject's notability. I think the sourcing is rather thin, but accounting is completely outside my comfort zone as an AFC reviewer. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 11:27, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

== Category:Wages and salaries and Category:Income ==

Is there anything that fits in [[:Category:Wages and salaries]] that wouldn't fit in [[:Category:Income]]?  Do we need two categories for the same thing? [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 01:23, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

== General structure about  [[Cash receipts journal]] ==

Are there any different structures available in the world about Cash receipts journal.
Take a look at the structure that I given here which is practiced in [[Sri Lanka]]

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |Date 
! rowspan="2" |Receipt number 
! rowspan="2" |Description 
! rowspan="2" |Discount allowed 
! rowspan="2" |Value 
! colspan="4" |Receipt analysis 
! rowspan="2" |L/F
|-
|Cash sales
|Received from debtors 
|Income received 
|Other
|-
|01.04.2017
|657890
|Cash sales 
|
|50,000
|50000
|
|
|
|
|-
|02.04.2017
|657891
|Dividends
|
|10,000
|
|
|10000
|
|
|-
|03.04.2017
|657892
|Additional capital 
|
|100,000
|
|
|
|100,000
|
|-
|05.04.2017
|657893
|Debtors 
|1,000
|9,000
|
|9,000
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|'''1,000'''
|'''169,000'''
|'''50,000'''
|'''9,000'''
|'''10,000'''
|'''100,000'''
|
|} 
I have just added this model into  [[Cash receipts journal]] article. [[User:Abishe|Abishe]] ([[User talk:Abishe|talk]]) 11:33, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

== Splitting up ERP companies from Accounting software category template ==

'''RE: Template:Accounting_software'''

I was going to split retail accounting software into two groups:web and desktop, but many of these programs are ERP which are significantly different in scope from accounting software programs. I think it would be better to create a new ERP software category template. I'm not seeing anything under [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=ERP&ns10=1&fulltext=Search&fulltext=Search&searchToken=1k8xczjuw7j6y8weh8ybrl2xr ERP templates]. Thoughts? [[User:JustaZBguy|JustaZBguy]] ([[User talk:JustaZBguy|talk]]) 18:51, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

== Request for information on WP1.0 web tool ==

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== CPA term? ==

Hi! A student of mine is planning on editing the [[Certified Public Accountant]]. It looks like the term is primarily only used in the US, as that's the only sourcing he can really find. Is this used elsewhere or is it only used in the US? [[User:Shalor (Wiki Ed)|Shalor (Wiki Ed)]] ([[User talk:Shalor (Wiki Ed)|talk]]) 15:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Primarily used in the USA> Other countries normally use the term "Chartered Accountant" --[[User:WikiCpa|WikiCpa]] ([[User talk:WikiCpa|talk]]) 18:27, 24 October 2020 (UTC)