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== Tagging for 1.0 Assessment, ==

I am currently on vacation so don't have high speed internet and all AWB stuff, but if you would like I can set up the article assessment and project tag stuff when I get back home (should be Dec. 28-29 when I can sit down and do that). I have done it before and while I am doing that I can help clean up some of the categories as well. However, before then it would be nice to figure out what image we want to use on the Project banners. It should be something distinctive. For example, when we were looking at the [[WP:WPASK]] stuff we decided to pick the [[Sutton Hoo helmet]]. If there is no distinct crest for Dacia, then we need an image that is distinct, [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 18:30, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:Found the template at [[Template:WikiProject Dacia]]. I will start tagging through the categories by next week. I think we may want to rethink the image though, [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 04:16, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Thanks a lot for the help. Sorry I missed the messages. Holidays plus although I have this page on my watchlist, there is no notification. Let me know the thoughts about changing the template/picture.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrinb]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 00:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::{{done}} I finished the tagging in [[:Category:Dacia]], which ones should I be looking at next? Also, I will look around at the images, [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 00:49, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::: That's super cool! Are you doing it manually? I was waiting for [[User_talk:Xenobot_Mk_V/requests#WP:Dacia|Xenobot_Mk_V]] and [[User:AlexNewArtBot#How_to_add_feeds_to_the_new_article_bot|AlexNewArtBot]] to run. It would be cool to use the list of [[User:AlexNewArtBot/Dacia|rules]] (which needs much more work) that I created for AlexNewArtBot and use it to flag older articles, not just new. Don't know how yet. I am still discovering bots and how to use them. I worked on categorizing the images on Commons and on the [[commons:Dacia and Dacians|Dacian gallery]] but there is much more work. Glad to have you aboard! --[[User:Codrinb|Codrinb]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 01:09, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I always do tagging semi-automatically with AWB, because I have a lot more control over what gets tagged and if I find a problems in the way something is categorized, I can go in and fix the categories. I like doing the organizational stuff and the assessment (both of which can generally be done little knowledge of the topic area).[[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 01:23, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

== Question about scope ==

We need to define the scope a little more precisely to effectively tag for the project. Do we include Thracia and all it's related topics? etc. [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 20:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
: It's a bit tricky. While most scholars agree that Dacians are northern Thracians, there are many disputes still. There are people that dispute Dacians = Getae. I dissagree with both ideas, especially when then come from nationalistic or political agendas. Having said that, I think we should take small steps. I suggest that we focus on Geto-Dacians and Moesi (which are closer to Dacians than Thracians). Once we bring all Dacia related articles to Featured Article level (ha ha! :-)) , we can continue with the Thracian ones. If the articles involve both Dacians and Thracians, for example Zalmoxis, we should of course have it in our initial scope. Merry Christmas!--[[User:Codrinb|Codrinb]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 00:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
::Why don't we refine the categories that fall within our scope a little more then, that way it is clearer. Right now there are a lot of categories associated with Thrace that are and were in that list, [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 00:48, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
::: I added the scope on the main page. Also, I noticed your work on the category that's cool and should help! I'll add some priorities there --[[User:Codrinb|Codrinb]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 01:11, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::: I just remembered that the Categories page, in the form I created is used by [[User:Xenobot_Mk_V]]. Your collapsing is cool but I don't think the bot will work with it. Unless you know otherwise, I will have to create a page for the bot (with the categories list as it was) and another for humans --[[User:Codrinb|Codrinb]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 01:29, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

== Update ==

I've just assessed and rated all the ''Dacia articles by quality and importance''. [[User:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Bine'''</span>]][[User talk:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Mai'''</span>]] 19:53, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
:Created the [[Template:Dacian cities]]. [[User:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Bine'''</span>]][[User talk:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Mai'''</span>]] 15:57, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
::Good job on both, you have been doing a lot of great work! [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 16:53, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Great job! Cool work on the template. I added it to the templates list. Let me know if you are interested in creating {{tl|Dacia topics}}. One option would be translating  [[:ro:Format:Dacia|Dacia template]] from Romanian Wikipedia. Otherwise, I'll probably work on it next.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrinb]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 20:23, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I'll finish it by tomorrow. [[User:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Bine'''</span>]][[User talk:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Mai'''</span>]] 21:05, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Created the [[Template:Dacia topics]] but feel free to add articles that i've missed. [[User:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Bine'''</span>]][[User talk:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Mai'''</span>]] 15:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::I will add that template to the pages using AWB. It looks pretty good right now! [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 16:34, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:::{{done}} - As you can see, I made some edits to the template to clean it up. In particular, we need to be careful about the links that are spelled the same as other English language words. Otherwise, it looks pretty good and if you have any questions on what I did, you can ask here or on the template talkpage, [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 17:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::::WOW! It looks even better now! Great job. [[User:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Bine'''</span>]][[User talk:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Mai'''</span>]] 21:00, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::::: Guys! Super cool work! I added more language, Roman Dacia topics and tried to organized somewhat chronologically. It got a big bigger but it is pretty comprehensive. As better articles get created, we have to come back to this template and link them. There is still work to be done on it. Let me know your thoughts.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrinb]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 21:02, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I am not sure if the Foreign Relations links are really appropriate the way you represent them. I would really suggest removing them, [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 21:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

== Notability ==

The articles within our subject get marked with questionable notability which I find very subjective and detrimental. I opened a discussion [[Wikipedia_talk:Notability#Notability_-_very_subjective_when_it_comes_to_less_glorious_ancient_history|here]]. You guys can pitch in and share your thoughts and experience.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrinb]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 16:30, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

== New userbox ==

I've made a new userbox for who is interested. [[User:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Bine'''</span>]][[User talk:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Mai'''</span>]] 22:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC) 
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: Cool! I put it on the main page [[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 17:32, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

== Read this ==

Plese add the [[Template:Dacian cities]] under the form '''<nowiki>{{Dacian cities}}</nowiki>''' to new articles about Dacian cities. Thank you. [[User:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Bine'''</span>]][[User talk:Bine Mai|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Mai'''</span>]] 22:11, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:Will do, likely tomorrow, I don't have my PC right now, but am operating on my [[Google Chrome OS]] pilot computer, so am not able to run AWB. [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 02:41, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
::Sorry still haven't done this, life is a little hectic right now, [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 15:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Nevermind, someone already did it! [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 18:00, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

== [[Battle of Gatae]] ==

Was [[Battle of Gatae]] actually a battle discussed by historians? If so, does anyone have some sources that can helps us determine the basic facts of where this battle fits in in the history and if Wikipedia should be discussing it? [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 02:38, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, I read about it too. I will look for references on it and post them on the article. Thanks for bringing this up.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 03:31, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
::I found some books and added them to the article but then I realized that they were circular references: the books were printed off Wikipedia!! Books LLC looks very sketchy to me... I'll dig some more but the article is in question.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 04:43, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

== Museum in scope ==

Out of curiosity, do we really believe that [[Talk:Kunsthistorisches Museum]] is in our scope? If so, then it seems that the project has gotten broader then I had thought, [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 06:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
: I created the category [[:Category:Museums of Dacia]] to group together all museums that have archaeological artifacts relating to Dacia. But it doesn't make the scope that much broader. I think it is very relevant as they are the best sources for the subject. In particular, [[Talk:Kunsthistorisches Museum]] has one of biggest Dacian gold collection, if not the biggest. See [[:commons:Dacia and Dacians#Treasures, jewellery, coins]], [[:commons:Category:Kunsthistorisches Museum]], [[:commons:Category:Dacian jewellery]] and [[Dacian bracelets]]. I think it would be great to use these images for a section in the museum article. Same holds for [[Naturhistorisches Museum]]. Yes, the Austrians took a lot of gold from Transylvania ;-).--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 03:41, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

== Categories for Bots ==

Most bots need a discussion with approvals for the categories to be used in automated article tagging. Please review this proposed [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Dacia/Categories|category list]], add anything missing and/or provide feedback and suggestions. Thanks!--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 03:46, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

== Updated project template and documentation ==

I added more functionality and article categories in the {{tl|WikiProject Dacia}}. I think it will help a lot. Please take a look and provide feedback.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 03:48, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

== Nomination of [[Dacian script]] for deletion ==

<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|42px|alt=|link=]]</div>The article '''[[Dacian script]]''' is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to [[Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]] or whether it should be [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deleted]].

The article will be discussed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dacian script]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion.  However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. [[User:Anonimu|Anonimu]] ([[User talk:Anonimu|talk]]) 23:16, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Removal of WikiProject Dacia template from relevant articles ==

I noticed the removal in purpose of the {{tl|WikiProject Dacia}} from very relevant articles, as [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dacian_script&oldid=406688460 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AConstan%C5%A3a&action=historysubmit&diff=406319264&oldid=406307236 here] from users who seem very hostile to the project for whatever reasons. Some of them were invited in good faith to the project, based on their involvement with the subject. Apparently it cannot be reported as vandalism. Please report such issues here and bring suggestions and ideas to the table. Those involved in removals are of course invited to this conversation as well. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 16:57, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Moving religion, occupations, culture, language from [[Dacia]] to [[Dacians]] ==

Hi all! I am planning to move the religion, occupations, culture, language sections from [[Dacia]] to the [[Dacians]] article since I think it pertains to the people not the geographical region. It is also consistent with the [[Thrace]]/[[Thracians]] and [[Illyria]]/[[Illyrians]], as well as the tree in [[:Category:Dacians]] and [[:Category:Thracians]]. The [[Dacians]] article also has [[Dacians#Religion]] and language sections which are just stubs. Anyone who has objections or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 17:32, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

== Using the [[Help:Userspace_draft|user space]] or [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dacia/Drafts|WikiProject Dacia drafts space]] for high conflict articles ==

Given the highly controversial theories regarding this subject, the amount of edit wars and the risk for conflict, I kindly suggest the use a [[Help:Userspace_draft|user space]] or of the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dacia/Drafts|WikiProject Dacia drafts space]], until the article is ready for prime time and a consensus is reached. You can certainly ask for reviews at the user/draft space. Thanks for your hard work and continued cooperation.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 19:40, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

== Comments for changes to Costoboci, Carpi and the Map of Roman Empire ==

There have been a number of conflicts around the recent edits on [[Costoboci]], [[Carpi (people)]] and the [[:commons:File_talk:Roman_Empire_125.png|Map of Roman Empire]], in connection with [[WP:OR|original research]], [[WP:NPOV|neutrality]], unreliable sources and possible [[WP:FRINGE|fringe theories]] like the [[Dacian-Baltic connection]]. Fragments of the conversations are also scattered throught user pages, including [[User_talk:Andrei_nacu]], [[User_talk:EraNavigator]], [[User_talk:Codrinb]], [[User_talk:Daizus]] and [[User_talk:Hxseek]]. Please provide your input on the corresponding ''article'' talk pages: [[Talk:Costoboci]], [[Talk:Carpi (people)]], [[Talk:Dacian language]], [[:commons:File_talk:Roman_Empire_125.png]]. Thanks! Looking forward for a fruitful collaboration. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 21:19, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

== The template ==

The template now covering the "Neutral Point of View" policy of this WikiProject is a sham, and a perfect example in manipulative [[equivocation]]. While announcing that it rejects Protochronism (at long last, some common sense), it currently reads: "It equally wishes to avoid Anti-Romanian or Anti-Dacian agendas, anti-Protochronistic aggressiveness, policing and labeling or the attempts to minimize or remove Dacians from history partially or completely. The term Dacology should not be considered synonymous with Dacoman, as it is not more dirty than the terms Thracology and Egyptology, and doesn't imply that the Dacian culture is equal or greater or more important in any way than the Roman, Greek or Egyptian cultures." This is insulting a reader's intelligence, since it claims that the universal ridiculing of Protochronist propaganda in outside sources is somehow wrong or excessive, and amounting to an attempt at destroying Romania's supposedly rich Dacian heritage - never mind that it suggests all those who do not share the pro-Dacian agenda that is implicitly advertised here are "anti-Romanian"! What's more, Codrinb has since created a [[WP:POVFORK]] of [[Protochronism]], under the title [[Dacology]] - he references that with personal webpages, books from the 1980s and so on, in an attempt to give the concept more credibility than it ever has, and to leave as much room as possible for enhancing the credibility of Protochronists who label themselves "Dacologues". For the "prevalence" of the term, I advise cursory searches of "Dacology" and "Dacologie" around Google Books etc. - it is marginally used in a scholarly context, but prominent in Protochronist or national communist propaganda. 

For these reasons and many more, I view this wikiproject with acute distaste. I urge all good-faith participants to review the agenda behind such statements, and, in case this project will survive in time, to prevent it becoming a tool for fringe ideology supported by sophistry. The application of wikipedia policies in regard to content makes all such faux disclaimers unwarranted. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] ([[User talk:Dahn|talk]]) 14:25, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
: Your labeling of the entire project, open hostility and incredibly negative statements are insulting [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dacia/Members|EVERY MEMBER]] of this project, formed by a very neutral and diverse group people with extremely various backgrounds, and beliefs. I personally invited you to this discussion several times, in good faith, and despite of incredible negative attitude given before, hoping you will have a positive approach,  and provide constructive criticism and a neutral opinion. I fail to see how you attitude can help in any way, ever if you are 100% right (which you are not) and is very disappointing... --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 18:04, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Codrin, stop identifying yourself with other members of this wiki-project. Your Dacian-biased tendecies will never be constructive for Dacia-related articles. Please be a gentleman and renounce the leadership of the wiki-project before you'll emabarass all the other honest and neutral contributors.
Some of your Dacomanic samples ([[:User_talk:Codrinb]]):

: 1. 'I was just reading this blog about the large number of [http://enciclopediagetodacilor.blogspot.com/2011/01/un-mister-istoricstatuile-dacilor-din.html Dacian statues made by Romans] (quoting from a well-known Dacomanic blog). Leonard Velcescu did a PhD in art on this subject and found over a hundred of them. One wonders why the Romans represented so many Dacians, and didn't do the same for Celts, Iberians, Illyrians, Thracians or Germanic tribes? One puzzling question, why are they not in chains?'

: 2. 'Here is very long List of Dacian towns and Davae. Many of them also coincide with most major cities in Romania proving continuity'.

: 3.  'You are trying to separated from being also anti-Romanian but is a very twisted way of thinking. Honestly, everyone will associate the two (Dacian and Romanian) whether you like it or not'.

: [[User:Andrei nacu|Andrei]] ([[User talk:Andrei nacu|talk]]) 18:20, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

::I'm obviously not responding to false accusations and inflammatory rhetoric, but here's some constructive criticism of the kind you ask: the users whose name you cite were not asked if they wanted to sign their name to that "disclaimer", or probably failed to even notice the problem. If my attitude is supposed to help, here's what's helpful: you remove that disclaimer or at least ask each and every member if they approve of your "anti-anti-Protochronist" agenda. Otherwise, you're making people sign up to your personal fantasies, and that is, long story short, intellectually dishonest. Nobody with a vague familiarity of scholarly opinion would even consider willingly signing up to such absurdities - like the Texas sharpshooter, you shot and then painted your target. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] ([[User talk:Dahn|talk]]) 13:05, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
::: Everyone in the project has a say on these things. If you look at the history of those sections, you can see that I was not the only user who participated to those clarifications and to the scope definition. I even invited users who proved the hostility against the project from day one. But nothing seems good or good enough to you. I added that disclaimer due to unfair attacks and suspicion, and now you ask me to take it out? To what end? And please stop this unfair campaign against the project and collaborate in good faith if you have genuine interest in the Dacian history and want to make sure the articles are properly written and sourced. Please take a look at the very intellectual and civil debate between Daizus and Hxseek, two members of the project: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ADacian_language&action=historysubmit&diff=407914760&oldid=407652505], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADaizus&action=historysubmit&diff=408390354&oldid=408077586]. They obviously have different opinions but don't attack each other or spend their time in a campaign against the project. This is very constructive and exactly what we need. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 15:31, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I ask you take it out because it is misleading and disruptive. I have no campaign against the project (though many share my fear that it could easily become a venue for promoting, what's it called, "Dacology"), I have a problem with that kind of embarrassment to wikipedia, and particularly with the "disclaimer"'s way of implying that all those who don't agree with the notion of "anti-anti-Protochronism" as something positive are, to quote, "anti-Romanian" - this is ''highly inflammatory''. Simple as that. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] ([[User talk:Dahn|talk]]) 15:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
::::: I agree that the term ''Dacology'' has become so tarnished and associated so deeply with Protochronism, but I find that sad, unfair and unfortunate. And I think it deserves to be separated from Dacomania. And why focus only on that ''inflamatory'' phrase and ignore the first one, which clearly wants to distance the project from Dacomania and establish balance? I repeat it here: '''"In the content related to this project, we seek to avoid Dacomania and Protochronism, and the poor scholarship associated with the fields which often leads to Original Research, biased information, confusion and antagonizes the Academia and disrespects the careers and efforts of historians, archaeologists and other specialists."'''. What more can we say and do to avoid suspicion and attacks? --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 18:35, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::: The template is a farce Codrin, and even you should acknowledge it. While you admit the existance of the disease (Protochronism in this case) you are symmetrically condenming people who are fighting it as being too combative and distructive. In a very simillar way you could lay accusations on a team of medical researchers trying to contain or find a cure for Cancer as behaving in a hostile manner and following an aggressive agenda. 

:::::: If you are trying to salvage Dacology and sepparate it from Protochronistic influences then you have chosen the wrong playground to do that. Wikipedia and wiki-projects ought not to be used to pursue redemption campaigns.

:::::: I will give you a useful and friendly advice: remove all the anti-(Dacian, Romanian, Protochronist) statements from this template. Afterall, you said you are on the side of balance and peace. Now is your chance to proove it!

:::::: [[User:Andrei nacu|Andrei]] ([[User talk:Andrei nacu|talk]]) 01:25, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::: I removed the attempt to salvage the term Dacology, as well as toned down or removed other items that could raise suspicion of being inflamatory. It's very sad and unfair to have Dacology in the dirt but indeed it seems doomed. I believe the Academia should have the balls and wisdom to take it back from Dacomans, by positive example of valuable science, recognized and validated by the world. Until that happens, if ever, I agree this is the wrong place to attempt to salvage it. Wikipedia is equally the wrong place to label and kill Dacomans or burn witches as it is to salvage Dacology. I will not remove the valid statement regarding anti-Protochronistic policing and aggressiveness, as such attempts, while ''just at the core'' (pseudoscience has negative effects), advocate drama, labeling, inquisition mentality, incivility and violate a large set of WP policies. You do not respond to stupidity with stupidity, to violence with violence. There is no balance or neutrality if this project becomes the office of the anti-Protochronistic police, busy deleting content, labeling, judging and blocking users. There is nothing encyclopedic or academic about a police force. Their is nothing positive or creative in such an approach. Medical researchers do not butcher patients in attempts to cure cancer. They use their knowledge and wisdom and take slow steps to make sure they do the right thing and don't kill the patient with radical approaches. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 18:57, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::::: I appreciate you enthusiasm for salvaging hijacked concepts but I think that even the designation 'Dacology' is itself pretentious and has some irredentist connotations for other nations neighbouring Romania. I think it would be better just to stick to the term 'Ancient history of Dacia', OK? Wikipedia is also the wrong place to accuse other people of having interests and agendas. For this reason alone I advice you yet again to remove all the anti-(Dacian, Romanian, Protochronistic) statements from this template. 

:::::::: Codrin, can't you see that the line about 'anti-Protochronistic aggressiveness' is alone causing other users to be suspicious about the whole wiki-project? Not to mention how wrong and ridiculous it is to associate terms like balance and neutrality with Protochronism. 

:::::::: I agree with you that there is nothing encyclopedic or academic about a police force. And you certainly don't want this wiki-project to have to deal with people enforcing Wikipedia regulations, right? So remove the anti-(Dacian, Romanian, Protochronistic) statements from this template!

:::::::: [[User:Andrei nacu|Andrei]] ([[User talk:Andrei nacu|talk]]) 19:35, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::: Re-read my statement above. Where was I not clear? The way it is written now is well balanced. Removing this phrase will make it clearly the office of anti-Protocronist police. I made A LOT of concessions against all hostility I am treated with. Learn to do the same and stop imposing your views if you want peace. You are not a god or always right. If you know you are not in the Anti-Romanian category or not looking to be a policeman than you shouldn't be affected by that phrase. It is not for you. If you can't deal with it, you are free to leave and join or start other projects. Given all the conflict you created, you chose the wrong time and approach to join the project and push your views. I would be more humble and respectful if I were you. And what do you make of [[Thracology]]? Should be destroyed too? Should be called the 'Ancient history of Thrace'? It's ridiculous and inaccurate.  --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 20:02, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::::::: No, I don't think the way the template is now written is balanced. I have the right to hold an opinion of my own, you know. I believe the best way would be to drop any references to anti-Dacian and anti-Romanian agendas and also the stance against 'anti-Protochronistic aggressiveness'. And please understand that it is wrong to label users as belonging to Anti-Romanian or Pro-Romanian categories. This template as it now stands is encouraging other people to think like you and to start accusing others of having interests and agendas. This is not the way Wiki-project Dacia should be. 

:::::::::: How can you imply this project is not for me and that I should consider joining or starting other wiki-projects? You should know that one of my earliest contributions to Wikipedia was to add a section regarding Dacian Warfare to the article on Ancient Warfare: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ancient_warfare&action=historysubmit&diff=105348990&oldid=104844055] I have also made the map of [[:File:Roman Dacia.svg|Roman Dacia]] which is now used in many Dacia-related articles. And I think I have the freedom to join any wiki-project I want. 

:::::::::: [[User:Andrei nacu|Andrei]] ([[User talk:Andrei nacu|talk]]) 21:00, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::: Well that's great and that's why I invited you from day one. But I wonder why didn't you start the project years ago? You been here for quite a while. It's much easier to stand on the side and throw stones and insults to someone who tries. Some of you been here for a while and I willing to bet based on all the shit I got so far that such Dacomanic wars took place here before I joined in November-December. I am sure you all knew about it since you are very vehement and intimate with the Protochronism. I didn't even know this term and the gravity of this conflict until I got labeled and pulled into. I am sure you didn't create the project because of these problems. You needed a fool and a scape goat to come around and take the bait. And here I am! Very kind and smart of all of you! --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 23:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

:To my best knowledge, no other wikiproject has such a manifesto. I think that this one's shows that the very ''raison d'etre'' of a wikiproject is ignored: it is supposed to help people in editing topics covered by the wikiproject (i.e by providing feedback, review, copyediting, source suggestion etc from interested people). At no time wikiprojects were designed to act as cabals, vigilante groups or police forces. So let's just take that header down. If editors don't grasp the basic concepts of the 5 pillars (and especially of the ones summarized by "NPOV") they shouldn't be doing any editing on WP at all.[[User:Anonimu|Anonimu]] ([[User talk:Anonimu|talk]]) 21:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
:: I agree 100% with Anonimu. I was forced to put it because of this imaginary witch hunt madness. Is out now. Sigh... --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 23:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

== Namespace collision between Dacian towns and insects and arachnoids named after them ==

Someone (would be interesting to know who) named spiders and butterflies after Dacian towns and now we have a collision with Entomologists :-) Take a look here: [[Talk:Napoca#Napoca disambig]] for an amusing conversation. For those who didn't know, Napoca is actually a jumping spider in Israel :-) I believe these Dacian towns deserve the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] pages as they are obviously the primary topic. If you want to write an article about a certain town, and the name is used by a butterfly, please write the article in your [[Help:Userspace_draft|user space]] or [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dacia/Drafts|WikiProject Dacia drafts space]]. In other words, you can create ''User:YOU/Drobeta'' or [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dacia/Drafts/Drobeta]]. If they collide with with more topics, which seem more important, we need to use names like Zeugma (ancient city), [[Zeugma (Dacia)]] and so on. In this case there is already a [[Zeugma (city)]] which is ancient, so ''Zeugma (ancient city)'' is not a good idea. But Zeugma (city) will probably need to end up in [[Zeugma (Commagene)]] if we will create [[Zeugma (Dacia)]]. We also need disambiguation pages.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 21:47, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

== Usage of Dacia stubs ==

Hi guys! How do you see the proper usage of {{tl|Dacia-stub}}? When I created this stub, I had the following kind of articles in my view for the scope: Dacian tows, tribes, kings etc, Dacian archaeology, culture, language etc. Since there are disputes whether or not [[Dacians]] and [[Getae]] are the same people or not (main stream and ancient source, indicate they are), the articles related to Getae are also in the scope of this stub. A similar situation is with [[Moesi]], a Daco-Thracian tribe. Now, all the articles that me or other members of [[WP:DACIA]] marked with this stub, might not mention the word Dacia (although many do), but we know that those archaeologists or museums for examples have a lot to do with Dacia and at least a section of the article will benefit from the expansion in that direction, hence the stub. I think the Dacia-related stubs cannot be viewed in the narrow sense of: "geography of Dacia" (which is not even properly known as far as borders, being a lose term for a large area in Eastern Europe) or "is this museum in Dacia?", which are ridiculous. In other words, in my view, any article that fits in the [[:Category:Dacia]] tree, should fit the bill for this stub.

There is also the topic of redirects with {{tl|R with possibilities}}, a special case, where I believe an exception can be made to the rule of not adding stubs to redirects. The suggestion of using stubs is clearly made in the description of this special type of redirect and I believe you should treat it as an exception case in your stub sorting procedures. It is logical to present a redirects with {{tl|R with possibilities}} as a possible article for expansion. In the case of [[WP:DACIA]], we make use of such redirects for ancient cities that redirect to the ancient history section of modern city (ex. [[Drobeta (ancient city)]], [[Napoca (ancient city)]] etc.) As part of our project we plan to expand the ancient history sections of the modern cities article, to the point where, the content will "overflow" naturally into the redirects with ancient city names. Hence, we want to have the stubs there to mark that, invite collaborators and speed up the process. I believe these kind of scenarios were in the mind of those who created {{tl|R with possibilities}}.

Please let me know what do you guys think. There is also a discussion going on at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting#Problem_with_.7B.7BDacia-stub.7D.7D]], where we can hopefully clarify this matter and reach consensus on the proper usage.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 19:17, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

The geographic scope of this Wikiproject doesn't seem limited to Romania. The scope given is "Dacia (at Burebista's time) plus Moesia and Scythia Minor". That would include areas of Bulgaria, Hungary, the Republic of Macedonia, Moldova, Romania, Serbia and the Ukraine. I am not certain if the articles should even mention Dacians, since the Getae, the Moesi, and to a lesser extent the Thracians are of interest to the Wikiproject. Museums which cover related artifacts may or may not qualify. The scope doesn't mention them.

I fully agree on not marking common redirects as stubs. "stub", "start", "B", etch. are assesment evaluations of where an article currently stands. They should not serve as to do lists. "Non-article pages, such as disambiguation pages, categories, templates, talk pages, and redirects, are not regarded as stubs." [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 16:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== Welcome new members! ==

Welcome the new members, [[User:RomânescEsteLatin]] and [[User:Teogon]]! Please let us know your areas of interest and expertise. As you can tell from the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Dacia/Tasks]] lists, your help is so much needed! Looking forward to collaborate on great articles!
--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 20:09, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:I would suggest contacting them on their user talk pages, they may not be watching the project talk page yet, [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 21:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

== DYK for Helmet of Coţofeneşti ==

Hi guys! I've been working recently on the [[Helmet of Coţofeneşti]]. Please see if you can give a hand to review it and maybe we can get [[WP:DYK]] for it and maybe make it [[WP:GOOD]]. Regards! --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 03:20, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
: I also added one of the images to [[WP:FPC]] as I think is worth featuring. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 20:34, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

== DYK for Ziridava ==

Hi guys! I've been working recently on the [[Ziridava]]. Please see if you can give a hand to review it and maybe we can get [[WP:DYK]] for it and maybe make it [[WP:GOOD]]. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 03:21, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

== Helmet of Iron Gates ==

Looks like both the [[Helmet of Cotofenesti]] and [[Ziridava]] were considered too late for DYK ... Let's try with the [[Helmet of Iron Gates]], but working on this '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Dacia/Drafts/Helmet of Iron Gates|draft]]''' instead and then pasting the 5x work. I just got some [[:commons:User:Codrinb/gallery#Tue_Mar_15_15:50:35_EDT_2011|new high res pictures]] from the museum in Detroit. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 17:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

== DYK for Dacian Draco ==

{{done}} Boldwin, thanks a lot for your great contributions to '''[[Dacian Draco]]''' and helping the article get a [[WP:DYK]]. It made it to DYK on [[Wikipedia:Recent additions#8 April 2011|April 7, 2011]]. See [http://stats.grok.se/en/201104/Dacian_Draco article views]. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 19:19, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
: Would be great to get it to [[WP:GOOD]] now! ;-) --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 19:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

== Identifying the helmets ==

Are we sure [[:commons:Category:Helmet of Agighiol|all of these helmets]] are the ''Helmet of Agighiol''? Or maybe some are pictures of the ''Helmet of Peretu''? See here also: [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iDRlyfXvxlQ/TMstXacNKGI/AAAAAAAAEzk/UzXSiW8eWxs/s1600/coifuri+getice.jpg Getian Helmets]. Just wondering. Thoughts? --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 17:45, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I am archiving some descriptions from National Museum Bucharest: 
* Agighiol is here [http://clasate.cimec.ro/detaliu.asp?k=81BABCE1DF424C99AD31D74514029DDA] 
* Peretu is here [http://clasate.cimec.ro/detaliu.asp?k=A7A2A116BB7C467388D0007A6736C698]
* Ciumesti Celtic type [http://clasate.cimec.ro/detaliu.asp?k=4F650FAE576844859DB3127077D04176]
* Giurgiu Attic type [http://clasate.cimec.ro/detaliu.asp?k=05EDCA168509429CAF633E1A04C40090]
* Cotofenesti (though, no indication from MNIR) [http://clasate.cimec.ro/detaliu.asp?k=35F92138E47D49CA9C247B5E9058DE35]
* Călăraşi Hellenistic type [http://clasate.cimec.ro/detaliu.asp?k=B87C2491F4984998AFA3BA9B7E054C9A]
* Racos unknown 1st century AD [http://clasate.cimec.ro/detaliu.asp?k=B738624C97EE4773AACF29965581291B]
[[User:Boldwin|Boldwin]] ([[User talk:Boldwin|talk]]) 14:47, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
::: Some answers here http://www.metmuseum.org/publications/journals/1/pdf/1512767.pdf.bannered.pdf
:::: Has anyone any ideea where is exposed the Agighiol helmet ? [[User:CristianChirita|CristianChirita]] ([[User talk:CristianChirita|talk]]) 06:28, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, I am not sure anymore. Left side seems to have the same motif. In the pictures we uploaded, based on available information, the left side doesn’t offer any clue since the motif is the same in all of these pictures)

But,

* the right one, with Agighiol (Inventar # 11181 MNIR http://clasate.cimec.ro/detaliu.asp?k=81BABCE1DF424C99AD31D74514029DDA) seems to have a horseman
* the right side with the uploaded ones there is a bird

* But we do not see the right side of Peretu 

Portile de Fier is damaged, so we do not have any upload of it. Agighiol seems to have some damages on the right front head. At this moment, for me, all the uploaded ones are Peretu helmets, if the picture we see in MNIR is right[[User:Boldwin|Boldwin]] ([[User talk:Boldwin|talk]]) 15:27, 20 May 2011 (UTC) But, the one from flickr also has an additional  version. See [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Getic_Agighiol_Helmet.jpg] We are sure, all of them are Getic, but I will try to find more details [[User:Boldwin|Boldwin]] ([[User talk:Boldwin|talk]]) 03:46, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
: Bolwin, that's a great list. I didn't know about some of those helmets. I've seen that Cristian created the [[:commons:Category:Helmet of Peretu]] category and moved there the pictures of the helmet originally identified as being from Agighiol. Regarding the Portile de Fier helmet, what do you mean we don't have any uploads of it? I put it here a while ago: [[:commons:Category:Helmet of Iron Gates]].--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 03:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
:: Check out this new page [[:commons:Dacian helmets]]. I created it to centralize and showcase all Dacian helmets we have. I am still not clear about the Peretu/Agighiol helmets's pictures and which one is which. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 05:19, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

== Dacian bracelets on Commons ==

I created a [[:commons:Dacian bracelets|Dacian bracelets page on Commons]] to better organize, categorize and show case all the bracelet pictures. Check it out and please contribute more knowledge. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 18:31, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

* You did it very well. We'll try to add more pictures.[[User:Boldwin|Boldwin]] ([[User talk:Boldwin|talk]]) 15:00, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
** 13 Bracelets were exposed in MNIR, the pictures are now in commons:
<gallery>
File:Bratara Nr 13 MNIR IMG 7412 .JPG
File:Dacian Bracelet IMG 7402.JPG
File:Bratari dacice IMG 7366 .JPG
File:Bratarile DaciceIMG 7317.JPG
</gallery>

... and so on[[User:CristianChirita|CristianChirita]] ([[User talk:CristianChirita|talk]]) 22:07, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
: Thanks so much for the pictures!! They made it to in the new [[Dacian bracelets]] article! --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 16:54, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

== Dacian Shields ==

Could someone help with an article for the Dacian Umbo?
<gallery>
File:IDacian Umbo Shield MG 7437.JPG|Auroch decoration 
File:Griphon UMBO Shield IMG 7433.JPG|Griphon decoration
</gallery>
: Very nice!! Thanks! --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 16:48, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

== Other Artefacts ==

<gallery>
File:Palatu Sutu Bronze artefacts 2nd century BC.jpg|palatul sutu
File:Palatul Sutu Dacian Silver 2011.jpg|has anyone any references, regarding this artefact?
</gallery>
: Very interesting pictures! I personally don't know much about them, but we'll find out, I am sure. Thanks a lot! --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 03:18, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

The anthropomorphic phalera (Palatul Sutu Dacian Silver 2011) is a [[Phalera (military decoration)]] found at Bucuresti Herastrau. Sarbu V. (2004) has its picture at Fig. 76 – 3, page 202 in Les Thraces entre les Carpates,les Balkans et la Mer Noire(s.V i.Hr.-I d.Hr.)  Editura Istros {{ISBN|973-9469-48-5}} [[User:Boldwin|Boldwin]] ([[User talk:Boldwin|talk]]) 17:11, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

== DYK for Dacian bracelets ==

[[File:Dacian Gold Bracelet at the National Museum of Romanian History 2011 - 5.jpg|thumb|100px|right|Dacian gold bracelet, dated to 1st century BC – 1st century AD, from [[Sarmizegetusa]] [[Romania]]]]
{{done}} [[User:Boldwin|Boldwin]], thank you sooo much for your great contributions to '''[[Dacian bracelets]]''' and congratulations for the [[WP:DYK]]! It made it to DYK on [[Wikipedia:Recent additions#12 August 2011|August 11, 2011]]. See [http://stats.grok.se/en/201108/Dacian_bracelets article views]. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 16:52, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

:: [[User:CristianChirita|CristianChirita]] contributed with great pictures, and [[User:Chaosdruid|Chaosdruid]] made a  great job with copy-editing . And ProjectDacia that you initiated and maintain made it possible. [[User:Boldwin|Boldwin]] ([[User talk:Boldwin|talk]]) 17:18, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

== New Dacia related pictures ==

<gallery>
File:Sarmizegetusa Regia 2011 - Solar Disc Detail.jpg|Sarmizegetusa Regia 2011 - Solar Disc Detail
File:Costesti Cetatuie Dacian Fortress 2011 - Tower House One-11.jpg|Costesti Cetatuie Dacian Fortress 2011 - Tower House One
File:Aiud History Museum 2011 - Dacian Iron Tools and Weapons-2.JPG|Aiud History Museum 2011 - Dacian Iron Tools and Weapons
File:Colonia Dacica Sarmizegetusa 2011 - Amphitheater Bench-1.jpg|Colonia Dacica Sarmizegetusa 2011 - Amphitheater Bench
File:Alba Carolina Fortress 2011 - Ruins-2.jpg|Apulum Ruins 2011
File:Rosia Montana Roman Gold Mines 2011 - Galleries-1.jpg|Rosia Montana Roman Gold Mines 2011 - Galleries
</gallery>
I traveled around Romania for a few weeks in September and took a bunch of pictures, some related to Dacia. Here are some of them: [[:commons:Category:Sarmizegetusa Regia]], [[:commons:Category:Costesti Cetatuie Dacian Fortress]], [[:commons:Category:Aiud History Museum]], [[:commons:Category:Ulpia Traiana Sarmizegetusa]], [[:commons:Category:Apulum]], [[:commons:Category:Rosia Montana Roman Gold Mines]]. Would need everyone's help to further categorize them and use them in articles. Thanks and regards! --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 19:55, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
== Dacian fortresses ==

Hi, I added several stubs of Dacian fortresses. Many of them don't have a proper name but they should be added to the "Ancient Dacian cities" box. -- Best regards, [[User:Saturnian|Saturnian]] ([[User talk:Saturnian|talk]]) 16:21, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
: Oh, that's great! I was about to start an article on Costesti today. Reading people minds? ;-) Regards! --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 03:08, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
: {{done}}. Check {{tl|Dacian cities}}. Also [[List of Dacian towns]]. Please see if anything is missing. Also, maybe you add them to the [[ro:Listă de cetăți dacice|Romanian list of Dacian fortresses]]? One note, we have to be consistent whether we use ''fortress'' or ''Fortress'' in the name. Not sure which one complies better to the style guide. Maybe the lower case one. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 15:56, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

== List of Dacian towns and fortresses ==

I just started the draft for the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Dacia/Drafts/List of Dacian towns and fortresses|List of Dacian towns and fortresses]]. Looking forward for your help and suggestions. What do you think we should have on the columns? --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 03:18, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
== Help National Museum of the Union get DYK by National Day of Romania ==

Help '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Dacia/Drafts/National Museum of the Union|National Museum of the Union (draft)]]''' get [[WP:DYK]] by adding 5x content by December 1st, 2011--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 18:58, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
:You know, it has to be ''sourced'' content, not just content. Good luck with that. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] ([[User talk:Dahn|talk]]) 22:18, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
::Of course, this is not even a draft yet... --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 16:31, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

== Salvage Roman Dacia ==

We need everyones help to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Dacia/Drafts/Roman Dacia|salvage Roman Dacia]] article. Please take a look at [[Talk:Roman Dacia#Copyright violations / plagiarism]] for the issues. --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 16:32, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
: Thanks everyone for the help. [[Roman Dacia]] is back to main space, on the way to [[WP:GOOD]].--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 22:16, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
== [[:Commons:Commons:WikiProject Dacia|Commons:WikiProject Dacia]] ==

{| class="messagebox standard-talk"
|align="left"|Hi guys! I've been working to organize media related to Dacia on Commons most of 2011. We have a lot of content that warrants the creation of a Commons project. I created the '''[[:Commons:Commons:WikiProject Dacia|Commons:WikiProject Dacia]]''' proposal as a sister project to [[:en:WP:DACIA|WP:DACIA]] {{In lang|en}} and [[:ro:WP:DACIA|WP:DACIA]] {{In lang|ro}} to better organize, categorize and improve the quality of media and galleries related to ancient [[Dacia]]. I know that many of you already contributed media to commons to support the articles we created. If you are interested, please '''[[:Commons:Commons:WikiProject Dacia/Members|join and support]]''' the new Commons project. Once we have enough prospective members, I will submit it to [[:Commons:Commons:WikiProject Council|Commons:WikiProject Council]]. Your input is welcomed! Thanks and best regards!
|}
... and happy holidays! --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 22:31, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
: This has been completed and we also got the 1st [[:Commons:Valued image set: Helmet of Coţofeneşti|Valued image set]]. Join and contribute!--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 22:10, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

== [[Dacia (disambiguation)]] ==

Please state your opinion if you wish about the primary topic usage in [[Dacia (disambiguation)]] per [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages#Linking to a primary topic]].--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 17:55, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
== Need help for description ==

<gallery>
File:Opinca Dacica Muzeul capitolini 1.JPG
File:Dacian Shoes. Museum capitolini 2.JPG
File:Dacian POW exposed in Museum Capitolini.JPG
File:Dacian Clothing Details IMG 6326.jpg
File:Dacian Clothing IMG 6348.jpg
File:Dacian Draco Capitolini Museum IMG 6304.jpg
File:Dacian Opinca IMG 6349.jpg
File:DACIAN poW cAPITOLINI IMG 6309.jpg
File:Dacian Pow Capitolini IMG 6336.jpg
File:Dacian Pow Capitolini IMG 6338.jpg
File:Dacian Pow Capitolini IMG 6340.jpg
File:Dacian Pow Capitolini IMG 6342.jpg
File:Dacian Pow Capitolini IMG 6343.jpg
File:Dacian Pow Capitolini IMG 6346.jpg
File:Dacian Pow IMG 6369.jpg
File:Dacian Pow IMG 6377.jpg
File:DACiaN pow vATICAN IMG 6035.jpg
File:DACIAN pOW vATICAN mUSEUM IMG 5994.jpg
File:Opinca Dacian Pow IMG 6324.jpg
File:Dacian POW Vatican IMG 6036.jpg
</gallery>
More to come next days [[User:CristianChirita|CristianChirita]] ([[User talk:CristianChirita|talk]]) 22:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:Nice work!! Looking forward for the rest.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 01:27, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
::thanks in advance for help! next days the constantine arch and some of trajan column [[User:CristianChirita|CristianChirita]] ([[User talk:CristianChirita|talk]])
::Please also help with the Mithra and maybe a frigian hat article :) I hope i can publish next week.
::BTW The Draco is quite different  from the column :) [[User:CristianChirita|CristianChirita]] ([[User talk:CristianChirita|talk]])
:Great pictures. Your are right, that Draco looks strange. Do you have a picture with the entire statue or relief, to see the context? --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 01:09, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:: Context is here:
http://tourvirtuale.museicapitolini.org/#/en courtyard on the floorplan
http://en.museicapitolini.org/percorsi/percorsi_per_sale/museo_del_palazzo_dei_conservatori/cortile
<gallery>
File:Interior of Museum capitolini IMG 6302.JPG
File:Museum capitolini Curtea Interioara IMG 6301.JPG
Musei_Capitolini_Interior_Courtyard_IMG_6303.JPG
File:Musei capitolini Interior Courtyard Dacian Draco IMG 6304.JPG
</gallery>
[[User:CristianChirita|CristianChirita]] ([[User talk:CristianChirita|talk]]) 10:05, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Tyrida]] ==

For those interested, [[Tyrida]] was marked for speedy deletion.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 20:59, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
== Template for discussion: [[Template:Infobox dava]] ==

For those interested, there is a request for deletion on [[Template:Infobox dava]], currently used in 91 articles on Dacian cities/fortresses.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 15:37, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

== Template for discussion: [[Template:Infobox castrum]] ==

For those interested, there is a request for deletion on [[Template:Infobox castrum]], currently used in articles on Roman [[castra]].--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 15:56, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
== scope of the project ==

Please express your opinion for the following disagreement: 
*[[User talk:Lothar Klaic#Požarevac]], 
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Po%C5%BEarevac&diff=prev&oldid=480628850 edit diff], 
*[[Talk:Požarevac#Wikiproject scope]]. 
[[User:Lothar Klaic|Lothar Klaic]] ([[User talk:Lothar Klaic|talk]]) 18:29, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

== [[Phineas]] ==

There is a problem with this headword. The move, if it's decided one be made, will require some juggling. Please see [[Talk:Phineas#Phineas > Phineus]]. — <span style="letter-spacing:1pt; font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Cardiffchestnut|<sup>[dave]</sup> cardiff]]</span> &#124; <sub><span style="letter-spacing:1pt; font-variant:small-caps;">[[User talk:Cardiffchestnut|chestnut]]</span></sub> —  13:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

== Move ==

[[Historic roads]] and [[Roman roads]] are up for a move. Please see [[Talk:Roman roads]]. [[User:Simply south|Simply]][[User talk:Simply south| south]]....[[User:Simply south/Poem|..]] ''always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years''  16:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

== Expel of member Borsoka from Project ==

Taking into account the destructive behaviour of Borsoka against this Project and generally against the History of Romanians, I propose you, the members of this Project, to expel him from the Project. 

Please check [[User:Borsoka]]'s edits and then vote below. -- [[User:Saturnian|Saturnian]] ([[User talk:Saturnian|talk]]) 08:37, 14 October 2012 (UTC) 
* Agree -- [[User:Saturnian|Saturnian]] ([[User talk:Saturnian|talk]]) 08:37, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
* Agree --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 16:12, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

== input sought at [[Roman Empire]] ==

At [[Roman Empire]] (which this project has bannered), we are seeking opinions about how to fill the "type of government" slot in the infobox. There is a proposal to label it an [[empire]]. [[User:Cynwolfe|Cynwolfe]] ([[User talk:Cynwolfe|talk]]) 13:31, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

== [[History of Vojvodina]] ==

An editor (who is not a member of this project) has recently added multiple project banners to [[Talk:History of Vojvodina]], including this one. Please feel free to remove it of it is not within this project's scope. See [[Talk:History_of_Vojvodina#Wikiproject_Banners|this section]] of the talk page for further background. [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 09:19, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

==Lukovit-wiki.jpg==
{{lf|Lukovit-wiki.jpg}} has been nominated for deletion -- [[Special:Contributions/70.24.244.158|70.24.244.158]] ([[User talk:70.24.244.158|talk]]) 07:50, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

== Article proposed for deletion ==

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== RFC at [[Talk:History of Vojvodina]] ==

Your attention is drawn to [[Talk:History_of_Vojvodina#Request_For_Comment_re:_WikiProject_Banners_on_this_page]]. Regards, [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]]  ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67#top|send... over]]) 02:10, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

::== Recent reenactment show ==

Hi, I want to share with you a [https://secure.flickr.com/photos/97970546@N06/sets/72157634300151822 stream of pictures taken at a recent reenactment festival]. I hope you will enjoy! -- Regards, [[User:Saturnian|Saturnian]] ([[User talk:Saturnian|talk]]) 12:19, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
: Nice! Can you post them on commons? --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 14:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:: I already posted them on [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cric%C4%83u_Festival_2013 Commons] some time ago ;) -- [[User:Saturnian|Saturnian]] ([[User talk:Saturnian|talk]]) 17:55, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

== Desudaba ==

The twelve word stub at [[Desudaba]] has lain unexpanded for almost three years, yet [[User:Codrinb|Codrinb]] listed it as being of mid importance to this project. [[User:Codrinb|Codrinb]], who created it with many empty sections, has not returned to it. Does someone else think that it is worth the effort, or was the initial ranking too high? --[[User:Bejnar|Bejnar]] ([[User talk:Bejnar|talk]]) 20:17, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
:The articles about [[Dacian cities]] and [[:Category:Dacian fortresses|fortresses]] are considered of at least mid importance to [[WP:DACIA]], so the ranking is correct. Lack of time if primarily the reason I didn't return to it yet. The sections were placeholders that would help with a consistent structure for all articles about Dacian cities. What is needed are more contributors. However, I don't understand exactly the main critique points or suggested changes.--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 13:30, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

== Leaflet for Wikiproject Dacia at Wikimania 2014 ==

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Hi all, I wanted to let you know that we now have access to the Loeb Classic Library via a donation to the [[WP:TWL|The Wikipedia Library]]. Sign up at [[Wikipedia:Loeb]]! [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 22:54, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

== Requested move for drafts ==

I've made a requested move to move all the drafts hidden away here to draftspace. The discussion is at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dacia/Drafts/Angustia]]. My suggestion is that every page be tagged with the project and if the draft parameter is turned on, it'll be just as easy to find these within [[:Category:NA-Class Dacia articles]] or [[:Category:Draft-Class Dacia articles]] if that's created. -- [[User:Ricky81682|Ricky81682]] ([[User talk:Ricky81682|talk]]) 23:39, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

== [[Iazyges]] ==

Hello, the article [[Iazyges]] is within the frame of your project, and I have made some significant edits to it, kindly re-assess it.  Thank you. [[User:Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Iazyges</span>]] [[User talk:Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Consermonor</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Opus meum</span>]] 00:37, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

== Double redirect needs fixing ==

[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Dacia/Drafts/Media (castra)]]: the article linked to is no longer a draft so the link is a double redirect. The subpage either needs fixing or deleting. I found it using [[WP:WPCleaner|WPCleaner]] and felt it better to raise the issue on your talk page in case there were any pressing need to leave it alone. Thanks —<span style="background-color: #EAE6FF">[[User:Iadmc|<span style="color: #0247FE">&nbsp;Iadmc</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Iadmc|<span style="color: black">♫</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Iadmc|<span style="color: #0247FE">talk&nbsp;</span>]]</sup></span> 08:44, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
:Never mind: the project hasn't been active in over three years. I've tagged it as defunct, therefore. I'll just ignore the DR as irrelevant. If anyone wanders over to reactivate, they will have a lot to do it seems... —<span style="background-color: #EAE6FF">[[User:Iadmc|<span style="color: #0247FE">&nbsp;Iadmc</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Iadmc|<span style="color: black">♫</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Iadmc|<span style="color: #0247FE">talk&nbsp;</span>]]</sup></span> 09:01, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
:Sorry. I forgot to check active and inactive participant's edits. I have notified the first participant on the list (who appears to be still active on Wikipedia, at least) of this error but I'll leave it to anyone who wanders over to reassess the situation and remove/update the tags as necessary as I'm still sure the project ''is'' defunct, there being a <s>ream</s> quire of unanswered requests/comments above... —<span style="background-color: #EAE6FF">[[User:Iadmc|<span style="color: #0247FE">&nbsp;Iadmc</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Iadmc|<span style="color: black">♫</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Iadmc|<span style="color: #0247FE">talk&nbsp;</span>]]</sup></span> 09:49, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Iadmc}} I'm still here, but I'm pretty sure I'm the only one. [[User:Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Iazyges</span>]] [[User talk:Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Consermonor</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Opus meum</span>]] 12:57, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
:::{{rto|Iazyges}} Hello! Can I leave all this for you to deal with then? Sorry about that... :) —<span style="background-color: #EAE6FF">[[User:Iadmc|<span style="color: #0247FE">&nbsp;Iadmc</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Iadmc|<span style="color: black">♫</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Iadmc|<span style="color: #0247FE">talk&nbsp;</span>]]</sup></span>  13:02, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
::::{{Rto|Iadmc}} Yes, I've moved the page to a different, suitable redirect without leaving a redirect. [[User:Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Iazyges</span>]] [[User talk:Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Consermonor</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Opus meum</span>]] 13:07, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::Thanks. It kept appearing in [[WP:WPCleaner|WPCleaner]] —<span style="background-color: #EAE6FF">[[User:Iadmc|<span style="color: #0247FE">&nbsp;Iadmc</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Iadmc|<span style="color: black">♫</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Iadmc|<span style="color: #0247FE">talk&nbsp;</span>]]</sup></span>  17:44, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I am also still around but quite busy these days. I think there are still enough members around so marking it defunct could be a bit premature. Double redirects should certainly be fixed. Thanks for waking us up :-) --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 13:03, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

== Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject ==

Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation|disambiguation]] pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Disambiguation|WikiProject Disambiguation]] have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at [http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Dacia http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Dacia]

Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.&mdash; [[User:Rodw|Rod]] <sup>[[User talk:Rodw|talk]]</sup> 14:50, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 == Welcome to WikiProject Dacia ==

Let's help the forgotten or little known Dacian history reach the world!

== MNIR ==

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== Splitting proposal: Origin of the Romanians ==

All comments are appreciated [[Talk:Origin of the Romanians#Splitting proposal|here]]. [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 05:58, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

== A-Class review for [[Marcus Aurelius]] needs attention ==

A few more editors are needed to complete the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Marcus Aurelius|A-Class review for Marcus Aurelius]]; please stop by and help review the article!  Thanks! [[User:AustralianRupert|AustralianRupert]] ([[User talk:AustralianRupert|talk]]) 09:19, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

== RfC: Origin of the Romanians ==

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== Assistance required to end deadlock in merger proposal discussion ==

I've been editing the articles relating to the Scythians over the course of several months, and since most editors tend to favour splitting pages after they reach a certain size, I split two further pages, [[Iškuza]] and [[Scythia]], covering the phases of Scythian history respectively in West Asia and in Europe, out of the [[Scythians|main page covering the Scythians]].

However, trying to split it has resulted into three articles, with both [[Iškuza]] and [[Scythia]] requiring large amounts of material regarding the role of the prior and subsequent histories of the Scythians in the creation and destruction of those states copied from each other and from the [[Scythians]] page to exist since they are both about immediately preceding/succeeding states created by the same continuous population group. And because Iškuza and Scythia both cover immediately preceding/succeeding but also partially overlapping parts of the history of the Scythians, multiple sections and sub-sections of each page covering the culture, population, external relations, etc of these states also had to be copied from the Scythians page (e.g. the "Background" sub-section and "Society" section in Scythia, and the "Origins," "Impact," and "Legacy" sections of Iškuza). Moreover, the [[Scythia]] page as it exists now also functions as a [[WP:Semi-duplicate]], given that most of the information relating to this polity also is also the same basic information that is required on the [[Scythians]] page.

Given this resulting situation, I have started a [[Talk:Scythians#Merger proposal|merger proposal]] to resolve this issue, per [[WP:MERGEREASON]]: '''Overlap''', '''Context''', not because I support a merger for the sake of merging itself, which I do not favour, but because Iškuza and Scythia require too much context and the information on these pages is too intertwined with each other.

The problem is that, despite months having passed, the discussion for the merger proposal is still at a deadlock, with three users opposed to the merger, and three users (including myself) in favour of it. In this difficult situation, I have been advised to bring this issue to the various WikiProjects which are relevant to [[Scythians]] as a way to possibly resolve the deadlock, and all good faith assistance to reach a consensus would be much welcome. [[User:Antiquistik|Antiquistik]] ([[User talk:Antiquistik|talk]]) 18:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

== Proposal to merge this project into WikiProject History ==

See [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History#Merge inactive history WikiProjects]]. &ndash;&#8239;[[User:Joe Roe|Joe]]&nbsp;<small>([[User talk:Joe Roe|talk]])</small> 09:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)