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The result was '''merge''' to [[Roblox#Popular games]]. The analysis of the sourcing in the discussion suggests that serious doubt exists over whether it meets SIGCOV. [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 08:29, 4 March 2021 (UTC) |
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Non notable article. Even though this had some contreversy due to its deletion, it has never reached the popularity of the current top roblox games. This article doesn't have that much information. [[User:Darubrub|Darubrub]] ([[User talk:Darubrub|talk]]) 16:43, 16 February 2021 (UTC) |
Non notable article. Even though this had some contreversy due to its deletion, it has never reached the popularity of the current top roblox games. This article doesn't have that much information. Either delete or merge the article with [[Roblox]]. [[User:Darubrub|Darubrub]] ([[User talk:Darubrub|talk]]) 16:43, 16 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Video games|list of Video games-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 17:17, 16 February 2021 (UTC)</small> |
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Video games|list of Video games-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 17:17, 16 February 2021 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Merge''' with [[Roblox]], where few popular games that appeared on the platform are mentioned. Only the cited Kotaku reference is actually talking about the game in some greater detail, the rest (and what I found in my searches) is all in passing mentions or brief coverage. [[User:Jovanmilic97|Jovanmilic97]] ([[User talk:Jovanmilic97|talk]]) 19:24, 16 February 2021 (UTC) |
*'''Merge''' with [[Roblox]], where few popular games that appeared on the platform are mentioned. Only the cited Kotaku reference is actually talking about the game in some greater detail, the rest (and what I found in my searches) is all in passing mentions or brief coverage. [[User:Jovanmilic97|Jovanmilic97]] ([[User talk:Jovanmilic97|talk]]) 19:24, 16 February 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''', article passes [[WP:GNG]], with SIGCOV in [https://kotaku.com/inside-the-fan-made-pokemon-mmo-played-by-tens-of-thous-1797638071?IR=T Kotaku], and [https://www.pcmag.com/news/top-7-best-pokemon-games-on-roblox PC Magazine], which are listed as reliable sources according to [[WP:VG/RS]], and also SIGCOV in [https://www.player.one/roblox-adult-fairy-trainer-123768 Player-One], and an article in [https://heavy.com/games/2018/04/pokemon-brick-bronze/ Heavy], which is listed in [[WP:RSP]] as marginally reliable. Remember, an article need not solely be about a topic in order for it to provide SIGCOV. [[User:Devonian Wombat|Devonian Wombat]] ([[User talk:Devonian Wombat|talk]]) 20:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''', article passes [[WP:GNG]], with SIGCOV in [https://kotaku.com/inside-the-fan-made-pokemon-mmo-played-by-tens-of-thous-1797638071?IR=T Kotaku], and [https://www.pcmag.com/news/top-7-best-pokemon-games-on-roblox PC Magazine], which are listed as reliable sources according to [[WP:VG/RS]], and also SIGCOV in [https://www.player.one/roblox-adult-fairy-trainer-123768 Player-One], and an article in [https://heavy.com/games/2018/04/pokemon-brick-bronze/ Heavy], which is listed in [[WP:RSP]] as marginally reliable. Remember, an article need not solely be about a topic in order for it to provide SIGCOV. [[User:Devonian Wombat|Devonian Wombat]] ([[User talk:Devonian Wombat|talk]]) 20:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' {{u|Devonian Wombat}} "With a massive world to explore, bonafide turn-based combat that is quite honestly ripped straight from the handheld games you know and love, and enough original ideas to occupy several days of your time, Pokemon Brick Bronze is far and away the best Pokemon game on Roblox. It’s not even a contest. In fact, it may be one of the best Roblox games period with more than 388 million players." in PC Gamer isn't SIGCOV, and relying the notability on sources with questionable reliability like Heavy and Player.One (currently inconclusive on [[WP:VG/RS]] + after thoroughly reading the article, it gives the game a pitiful coverage) is a no-no imo. [[User:Jovanmilic97|Jovanmilic97]] ([[User talk:Jovanmilic97|talk]]) 21:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' per [[User:Devonian Wombat|Devonian Wombat]]. [[User:ROBLOXGamingDavid|ROBLOXGamingDavid]] ([[User talk:ROBLOXGamingDavid|talk]]) 06:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC) |
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*{{strike|'''Keep''' As per available resources. Passes GNG. [[User:Timberlack|Timberlack]] ([[User talk:Timberlack|talk]]) 11:03, 17 February 2021 (UTC)}}<small>— [[User:Timberlack|Timberlack]] ([[User talk:Timberlack|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Timberlack|contribs]]) is a confirmed [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Niceguylucky|sock puppet]] of [[User:Niceguylucky|Niceguylucky]] ([[User talk:Niceguylucky|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Niceguylucky|contribs]]). </small> |
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*'''Comment''' {{u|Devonian Wombat}} Heavy has no consensus on its reliability on [[WP:RSP]] and Player-One is not found in there too. [[User:Darubrub|Darubrub]] ([[User talk:Darubrub|talk]]) 14:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''' with [[Roblox]] per Jovanmilic97. None of the sources brought up here offer significant coverage. [[User:Namcokid47|<span style="color: #009999">Namcokid</span>]][[User talk:Namcokid47|<span style="color: #cc0000">47</span>]] 15:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:*The Kotaku is pretty in-depth. The others do have various shortcomings though, true. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 17:33, 17 February 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''': passes gng. could use some work but doesn't require deletion. [[User:VersaceSpace|<span style="background:#4C516D; color:white; padding:2px;">versacespace</span>]][[User talk:VersaceSpace|<span style="background:#B9CFF0; color:black; padding:2px;">talk to me</span>]] 15:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''' to [[Roblox#Popular games]]. The [[WP:GNG|GNG]] requires more than a single source (Kotaku) with [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]]. The other sources are weak or unreliable, per above. I'd support a split for the aforementioned section to its own article, based on the amount of coverage [[Roblox games]] have received as an entity. But this singular title does not have enough coverage to warrant a full/separate article. Indeed most of the sources cover Brick Bronze among other Roblox titles. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 06:09, 24 February 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''': Any chances this can be used? <ref>{{Cite web|date=2017-08-14|title=Endlich gibt es ein Pokémon-MMORPG und so sieht es aus|url=https://www.giga.de/spiele/pokemon-sonne-und-mond/news/pokemon-brick-bronze-fanprojekt-soll-traum-vom-poke-mmo-erfuellen/|access-date=2021-02-25|website=GIGA|language=de}}</ref> [[User:VersaceSpace|<span style="background:#4C516D; color:white; padding:2px;">versacespace</span>]][[User talk:VersaceSpace|<span style="background:#B9CFF0; color:black; padding:2px;">talk to me</span>]] 02:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''' most of its coverage is around Roblox and not really as an independent game. It has more coverage than a lot of illegal mods but still not more than a few sentences which would fit sufficiently at another target. [[User:Archrogue|Archrogue]] ([[User talk:Archrogue|talk]]) 18:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 08:29, 4 March 2021
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The result was merge to Roblox#Popular games. The analysis of the sourcing in the discussion suggests that serious doubt exists over whether it meets SIGCOV. Daniel (talk) 08:29, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Non notable article. Even though this had some contreversy due to its deletion, it has never reached the popularity of the current top roblox games. This article doesn't have that much information. Either delete or merge the article with Roblox. Darubrub (talk) 16:43, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 17:17, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge with Roblox, where few popular games that appeared on the platform are mentioned. Only the cited Kotaku reference is actually talking about the game in some greater detail, the rest (and what I found in my searches) is all in passing mentions or brief coverage. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 19:24, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, article passes WP:GNG, with SIGCOV in Kotaku, and PC Magazine, which are listed as reliable sources according to WP:VG/RS, and also SIGCOV in Player-One, and an article in Heavy, which is listed in WP:RSP as marginally reliable. Remember, an article need not solely be about a topic in order for it to provide SIGCOV. Devonian Wombat (talk) 20:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Devonian Wombat "With a massive world to explore, bonafide turn-based combat that is quite honestly ripped straight from the handheld games you know and love, and enough original ideas to occupy several days of your time, Pokemon Brick Bronze is far and away the best Pokemon game on Roblox. It’s not even a contest. In fact, it may be one of the best Roblox games period with more than 388 million players." in PC Gamer isn't SIGCOV, and relying the notability on sources with questionable reliability like Heavy and Player.One (currently inconclusive on WP:VG/RS + after thoroughly reading the article, it gives the game a pitiful coverage) is a no-no imo. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 21:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Devonian Wombat. ROBLOXGamingDavid (talk) 06:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Keep As per available resources. Passes GNG. Timberlack (talk) 11:03, 17 February 2021 (UTC)— Timberlack (talk • contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Niceguylucky (talk • contribs).- Comment Devonian Wombat Heavy has no consensus on its reliability on WP:RSP and Player-One is not found in there too. Darubrub (talk) 14:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge with Roblox per Jovanmilic97. None of the sources brought up here offer significant coverage. Namcokid47 15:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- The Kotaku is pretty in-depth. The others do have various shortcomings though, true. Sergecross73 msg me 17:33, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: passes gng. could use some work but doesn't require deletion. versacespacetalk to me 15:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to Roblox#Popular games. The GNG requires more than a single source (Kotaku) with significant coverage. The other sources are weak or unreliable, per above. I'd support a split for the aforementioned section to its own article, based on the amount of coverage Roblox games have received as an entity. But this singular title does not have enough coverage to warrant a full/separate article. Indeed most of the sources cover Brick Bronze among other Roblox titles. czar 06:09, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 01:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Keep or merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 01:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Any chances this can be used? [1] versacespacetalk to me 02:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge most of its coverage is around Roblox and not really as an independent game. It has more coverage than a lot of illegal mods but still not more than a few sentences which would fit sufficiently at another target. Archrogue (talk) 18:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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- ^ "Endlich gibt es ein Pokémon-MMORPG und so sieht es aus". GIGA (in German). 2017-08-14. Retrieved 2021-02-25.