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== September 2019 == |
== September 2019 == |
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[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Everedux|Everedux]]. I noticed that you recently removed content from [[:Streatham and Clapham High School]] without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[WP:Sandbox|sandbox]]. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:Everedux|my talk page]]. Thanks.<!-- Template:uw-delete1 --> '''<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.6em #c4c2c2">[[User:Everedux|<span style="color:#FF8C00">Everedux</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Everedux|<span style="color:#00BFFF">(talk)</span>]]</sup></span>''' 22:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC) |
[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Everedux|Everedux]]. I noticed that you recently removed content from [[:Streatham and Clapham High School]] without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[WP:Sandbox|sandbox]]. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:Everedux|my talk page]]. Thanks.<!-- Template:uw-delete1 --> '''<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.6em #c4c2c2">[[User:Everedux|<span style="color:#FF8C00">Everedux</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Everedux|<span style="color:#00BFFF">(talk)</span>]]</sup></span>''' 22:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC) |
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== Managing a conflict of interest == |
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[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, Haymans42. We [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia|welcome]] your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things [[Special:Contributions/Haymans42|you have written about]] in the page [[Streatham and Clapham High School]], you may have a [[conflict of interest]] (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the '''[[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest|conflict of interest guideline]]''' and [[Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations|FAQ for organizations]] for more information. We ask that you: |
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*'''avoid editing or creating''' articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors; |
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* '''propose changes''' on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{tl|request edit}} template); |
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* '''disclose''' your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI]]); |
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*'''avoid linking''' to your organization's website in other articles (see [[WP:Spam]]); |
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*'''do your best''' to comply with Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Core content policies|content policies]]. |
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In addition, you are '''required''' by the [[Wikimedia Foundation]]'s terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See [[Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure]]. |
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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.<!-- THE FOLLOWING CATEGORY SHOULD BE REMOVED IF THE USER IS BLOCKED, OR IT IS DECIDED THAT THIS USER DOES NOT HAVE A COI, OR THIS TEMPLATE HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A WHILE WITH NO ACTION. -->{{#ifexpr: ({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} - 20200122095903) < 5000000000 | [[Category:User talk pages with conflict of interest notices|{{PAGENAME}}]] | }}<!-- Template:uw-coi --> [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 09:59, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<p> |
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There is no conflict of interest other than that I am a member of the Streatham Society, a local history society which covers the area around the school. My interest in the school came about whilst researching its predecessor on the site, the historic Battersea Boys Grammar School. We discussed the newest builds at the site at our last meeting which then indicated to me how old the info was about the school and in the last few weeks I have tried to update it. I also noticed that the new MP for the area went to the school so put that in. [[Special:Contributions/89.197.150.254|89.197.150.254]] ([[User talk:89.197.150.254|talk]]) 14:01, 22 January 2020 (UTC)</p> |
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:Thank you for the explanation; that's fine. If you know of any sources that can be added to the article (particularly for the history section), that would be very helpful. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 08:53, 23 January 2020 (UTC) |
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:Hello again. Could I ask you to stop [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Streatham_and_Clapham_High_School&diff=937274342&oldid=937004095 removing] the maintenance templates from the top of the article, please? They should only be removed once the issues that they highlight, such as the lack of sourcing, are fully addressed. You also removed templates that specify which variant of English and which date format the article uses. There's no need to do anything now: I've restored them to the article for you. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 19:42, 24 January 2020 (UTC) |
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:: Hi - I see you don't have other Wikipedia edits than the school page in your user history, so thought it might be worth explaining that the maintenance templates cover three distinct issues: (1) '''COI''': that a substantial proportion of the content was put up by someone with COI issues w.r.t the school ([[User:L.hammerlit|L.hammerlit]], if you want to see the edits in the page's history) (2) '''advert''': that (as a result of this) a substantial proportion of the content is more like an advert than Wikipedia pages are supposed to be (3) '''more citations needed''': that much of the page, particularly the "Historic" section, is unsourced. |
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:: If you were interested in adding sources, particularly for the "Historic" section, then that could sort out problem (3) - but it would still leave problems (1) and (2), since it would mean the content added by the person with a COI was still present. |
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:: If you could face tacking issues (1) and (2) too (although it's totally understandable if that's not something you want to get involved with) then might I suggest looking at the pages for neighbour schools in the GDST: [[Putney High School]] and [[Wimbledon High School]]? If the page for [[Streatham and Clapham High School]] resembled them in terms of their relative lack of advertising content, then there would hopefully be no need for the remaining maintenance templates. However getting the page to that point would involve removing a lot of the current material - at a first glance possibly entirely removing the sections "Curriculum", "Sixth Form" and "Findings...". |
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:: If any of this is something you can face taking on, it might also be a good idea to discuss removing any templates on the [[Talk:Streatham_and_Clapham_High_School|Talk page for the school]] before actually removing them, because the page has seen a lot of premature template removals and consequent reversions in the past - or pre-checking with someone experienced like [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] - Thanks, [[User:West Streatham Resident|West Streatham Resident]] ([[User talk:West Streatham Resident|talk]]) 17:10, 25 January 2020 (UTC) |
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== April 2021 == |
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[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia|Welcome to Wikipedia]]. It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed [[Wikipedia:Template messages|maintenance templates]] from [[:Streatham and Clapham High School]]. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. Please see [[Help:Maintenance template removal]] for further information on when maintenance templates should or should not be removed. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]]. Take a look at the [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia|welcome page]] to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use your [[User:Haymans42/sandbox|sandbox]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-tdel1 --> [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 18:50, 30 April 2021 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 18:50, 30 April 2021
September 2019
[edit]Hello, I'm Everedux. I noticed that you recently removed content from Streatham and Clapham High School without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Everedux (talk) 22:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Managing a conflict of interest
[edit]Hello, Haymans42. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Streatham and Clapham High School, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
- avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
- propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);
- disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI);
- avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
- do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:59, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
There is no conflict of interest other than that I am a member of the Streatham Society, a local history society which covers the area around the school. My interest in the school came about whilst researching its predecessor on the site, the historic Battersea Boys Grammar School. We discussed the newest builds at the site at our last meeting which then indicated to me how old the info was about the school and in the last few weeks I have tried to update it. I also noticed that the new MP for the area went to the school so put that in. 89.197.150.254 (talk) 14:01, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the explanation; that's fine. If you know of any sources that can be added to the article (particularly for the history section), that would be very helpful. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:53, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hello again. Could I ask you to stop removing the maintenance templates from the top of the article, please? They should only be removed once the issues that they highlight, such as the lack of sourcing, are fully addressed. You also removed templates that specify which variant of English and which date format the article uses. There's no need to do anything now: I've restored them to the article for you. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:42, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hi - I see you don't have other Wikipedia edits than the school page in your user history, so thought it might be worth explaining that the maintenance templates cover three distinct issues: (1) COI: that a substantial proportion of the content was put up by someone with COI issues w.r.t the school (L.hammerlit, if you want to see the edits in the page's history) (2) advert: that (as a result of this) a substantial proportion of the content is more like an advert than Wikipedia pages are supposed to be (3) more citations needed: that much of the page, particularly the "Historic" section, is unsourced.
- If you were interested in adding sources, particularly for the "Historic" section, then that could sort out problem (3) - but it would still leave problems (1) and (2), since it would mean the content added by the person with a COI was still present.
- If you could face tacking issues (1) and (2) too (although it's totally understandable if that's not something you want to get involved with) then might I suggest looking at the pages for neighbour schools in the GDST: Putney High School and Wimbledon High School? If the page for Streatham and Clapham High School resembled them in terms of their relative lack of advertising content, then there would hopefully be no need for the remaining maintenance templates. However getting the page to that point would involve removing a lot of the current material - at a first glance possibly entirely removing the sections "Curriculum", "Sixth Form" and "Findings...".
- If any of this is something you can face taking on, it might also be a good idea to discuss removing any templates on the Talk page for the school before actually removing them, because the page has seen a lot of premature template removals and consequent reversions in the past - or pre-checking with someone experienced like Cordless Larry - Thanks, West Streatham Resident (talk) 17:10, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
April 2021
[edit]Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed maintenance templates from Streatham and Clapham High School. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Please see Help:Maintenance template removal for further information on when maintenance templates should or should not be removed. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:50, 30 April 2021 (UTC)