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Please add that he's been on a filmed flight http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23500679 |
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Thanx [[User:Veryscarymary|Veryscarymary]] ([[User talk:Veryscarymary|talk]]) 14:47, 30 July 2013 (UTC) |
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== Channel crossing == |
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Why is there no mention in this article regarding his crossing of the English Channel? There are enough [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7637327.stm references] to support it. <b>[[User:Robvanvee|<span style="color:red">Rob</span>]][[User talk:Robvanvee|<span style="color:orange">van</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Robvanvee|<span style="color:green">vee</span>]]</b> 17:13, 2 August 2013 (UTC) |
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== Dubai flight == |
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* The videos of his November 2015 Dubai flight seem to show that he then had two winged jetpacks. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 11:58, 7 November 2015 (UTC) |
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==No proof, no data== |
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I guess nobody cares that this whole article appears to be written this guys promoters. |
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Unless someone can prove otherwise, I'm going to add in the first section (which uses his website it's sole source) that that what he does has never been proven to meet the definition of flying, especially regarding powered flight. It would take date to prove that, data that he has never produces. IMOP, this article simply looks like a promotion piece for an individual that may be just allowing people to think he flies when in fact he does not. I take this seriously as i see it as an example of people wanting to believe it so much that they suspend critical thinking which can be argued is a source of many of the worlds current dilemmas. Confirmation bias and lack of skeptical analysis needs to be pointed out everywhere it's encountered. So I'm not being flip about "Jetman". He's insulated by promoters and as far as I can find has never had to directly answer questions about his lack of flight data, something that could easily be done. All his promoters do is point you to video and photos as proof he's doing powered flight, as though we'd never seen a movie where the camera misled us for entertainment purposes. Someone needs to tell me why WE shouldn't just see what he does as stagecraft. Even I want to believe what he's doing is sustainable powered flight but if it's not, as I suspect it is not, it does a huge disservice to the true pioneers of powered flight. |
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I'll wait a couple of days for comment before making the point on the page [[User:Jackhammer111|Jackhammer111]] ([[User talk:Jackhammer111|talk]]) 04:38, 10 December 2015 (UTC) |
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* He flew. There is much film proof of this. Any conspiracy to fake all this would have to be too big and elaborate to be possible. He flew in reality. OK, he cannot take off from the ground yet, but nor can the bird called a [[swift]], and biologists accept that swifts can fly. [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 05:41, 10 December 2015 (UTC) |
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**Swifts cant takeoff? Any citation for that? [[User:Yogesh Khandke|Yogesh Khandke]] ([[User talk:Yogesh Khandke|talk]]) 06:44, 26 March 2016 (UTC) |
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***Found it. "Because of the length of the wings and shortness of the legs, most swifts (with the exception of very few strong adults) are unable to take off from a flat surface."[http://www.rspb.org.uk/discoverandenjoynature/discoverandlearn/birdguide/name/s/swift/grounded.aspx] |
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No need for FUD, so I've removed it from the article.[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Yves_Rossy&type=revision&diff=825085324&oldid=822178753] (Moreover, making a point about having "no independent witnesses to document his flight" appears to be [[WP:SYNTH]], since the sources do not say it that way.) For disbelievers, there is a video of the flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEVk5t8CLZs. That being said, I'm not against mentioning the absence of the media (the sources do discuss this topic in some detail) if it has a point other than insinuation. [[User:GregorB|GregorB]] ([[User talk:GregorB|talk]]) 11:36, 11 February 2018 (UTC) |
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Archive 1 |
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Yves Rossy's work certainly is notable in that his invention may well come into much wider if not wide use.
- If you search yahoo for "Yves Rossy," you get 148,000 hits from all kinds of media outlets. If you google "Yves Rossy," you get 248,000 hits. Rossy is an improve the article. RonCram 17:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Additional Sources
Speed
I'd like to know how fast he was going.
65.101.228.185 (talk) 15:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- According to this article he was going about 125mph when he crossed the Channel, and he's reached 186mph according to this one.
Sparrer (talk) 23:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
First leap
This is the first jump in the world, most NOTABLE: Yves Rossy, 48, the “fusion man,” on May 14, 2008, in a 5-minute flight, leaped (from his Swiss-built Pilatus Porter jet propelled hang-glider aircraft at 7,500 feet and unfolded the 8-foot wings strapped to his back), on an airfield near Lake Geneva. It was the first public demonstration before world press, of making effortless loops from one side of the Rhone valley to the other, rising 2,600 at times. Rossy, his sponsors, and the Swiss watch company Hublot, spent $285,000 to build the device.ap.google.com, Swiss man soars above Alps with jet-powered wingnews.bbc.co.uk, Rocketman flies in the skiesnypost.com, Switzerland’s New Air Force --Florentino floro (talk) 09:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
he has "kindly" refused. That is a pov as an article comes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.157.40 (talk) 07:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
This guy is sick!!! woww!!! I'd love to fly one of those!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.181.102.108 (talk) 22:45, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Needs updating
'The Jet Man'? Isn't his nickname Fusion Man?
Also, it says that he can fly 'for up to six minutes and 30 seconds' and then goes on to say that he crossed the Channel in ten minutes! Sparrer (talk) 23:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
The National Geographic Channel nicknamed him Jetman (I have watched the Latin American version of the channel) but later I saw his "other" nickname Fusion Man on bbc.com/news , so I added it.
--Ginta suou (talk) 01:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Fusion Man is his official title, as stated on the website. However the domain itself is "jet-man". TigerTails (talk) 14:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I could't watch his crossing of the English Channel but maybe the 10 minute he took to cross it included his parachute descending. --Ginta suou (talk) 01:52, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Further Flights
Please add that he's been on a filmed flight http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23500679 Thanx Veryscarymary (talk) 14:47, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Channel crossing
Why is there no mention in this article regarding his crossing of the English Channel? There are enough references to support it. Robvanvee 17:13, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Dubai flight
- The videos of his November 2015 Dubai flight seem to show that he then had two winged jetpacks. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:58, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
No proof, no data
I guess nobody cares that this whole article appears to be written this guys promoters. Unless someone can prove otherwise, I'm going to add in the first section (which uses his website it's sole source) that that what he does has never been proven to meet the definition of flying, especially regarding powered flight. It would take date to prove that, data that he has never produces. IMOP, this article simply looks like a promotion piece for an individual that may be just allowing people to think he flies when in fact he does not. I take this seriously as i see it as an example of people wanting to believe it so much that they suspend critical thinking which can be argued is a source of many of the worlds current dilemmas. Confirmation bias and lack of skeptical analysis needs to be pointed out everywhere it's encountered. So I'm not being flip about "Jetman". He's insulated by promoters and as far as I can find has never had to directly answer questions about his lack of flight data, something that could easily be done. All his promoters do is point you to video and photos as proof he's doing powered flight, as though we'd never seen a movie where the camera misled us for entertainment purposes. Someone needs to tell me why WE shouldn't just see what he does as stagecraft. Even I want to believe what he's doing is sustainable powered flight but if it's not, as I suspect it is not, it does a huge disservice to the true pioneers of powered flight.
I'll wait a couple of days for comment before making the point on the page Jackhammer111 (talk) 04:38, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- He flew. There is much film proof of this. Any conspiracy to fake all this would have to be too big and elaborate to be possible. He flew in reality. OK, he cannot take off from the ground yet, but nor can the bird called a swift, and biologists accept that swifts can fly. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:41, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- Swifts cant takeoff? Any citation for that? Yogesh Khandke (talk) 06:44, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
- Found it. "Because of the length of the wings and shortness of the legs, most swifts (with the exception of very few strong adults) are unable to take off from a flat surface."[1]
- Swifts cant takeoff? Any citation for that? Yogesh Khandke (talk) 06:44, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
No need for FUD, so I've removed it from the article.[2] (Moreover, making a point about having "no independent witnesses to document his flight" appears to be WP:SYNTH, since the sources do not say it that way.) For disbelievers, there is a video of the flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEVk5t8CLZs. That being said, I'm not against mentioning the absence of the media (the sources do discuss this topic in some detail) if it has a point other than insinuation. GregorB (talk) 11:36, 11 February 2018 (UTC)