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Reviewer: Xtzou (Talk) 19:58, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, there is a {{clarification needed}} tag which is badly needed as the sentence refers to popular hits, suggesting songs, but the links are to other episodes. Otherwise, everything looks good. I will add any further concerns I may have.

Done. Gage (talk) 05:23, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Xtzou (Talk) 19:58, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Further comments

The problem is the issues has not been clarified as the sentence refers to songs, but the links are to other episodes, which is not very helpful as the reader would have to read the entire episode linked to try and determine what the connection to "songs" is. See below:

The program included songs from the fourth season episode "The Fat Guy Strangler", the sixth season episode "Play It Again, Brian", and the eighth season episode "Business Guy", as well as other songs, including "You've Got A Lot to See", "Shipoopi", and "My Drunken Irish Dad".

What are the "songs" being referred to? The reference http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/30/family-guy-animation-business-entertainment-vallow.html says there is no music in the episode. The other reference http://www.foxflash.com/div.php/main/page?aID=1z2z1z25z1z8&ID=6078 says "Immediately following the episode, the celebration will continue with fan-favorite and never-before-seen musical numbers." So, I am confused.

Oh, the songs being linked are from those episodes, and aired in the second half hour of the full hour event, of which Brian & Stewie were a part of. Do you have any suggestion as to better clarifying? Gage (talk) 15:11, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But no songs are linked, just the episodes. Reading a whole episode article to try to determine a song name is too much to expect of a reader. An neither of the two references given say that songs come from those episodes. Further, what are the "songs"? If they are "musical numbers" from those episodes, then why not say that? And give a reference that backs it up? Xtzou (Talk) 15:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've attempted to clarify the issue. Gage (talk) 15:48, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for doing that. It is better now. The remaining problem is that the references you give for that don't support it (that I can see). Xtzou (Talk) 16:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Gage (talk) 19:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see where the added citation references the songs mentioned. Xtzou (Talk) 19:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reference states, among other things: "Pictured: the musical number "Errand Boy" from Season Seven's "Business Guy" episode," "Pictured: the musical number "My Drunken Irish Dad" from Season Five's "Peter's Two Dads" episode," "Pictured: the musical number "NAAFP Anthem" from Season Four's "Fat Guy Strangler" episode," "Pictured: the musical number "Shipoopi" from Season Four's "Patriot Games" episode," "Pictured: the musical number "You've Got A Lot to See" from Season Three's "Brian Wallows and Peter's Swallows" episode." Gage (talk) 19:58, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry! Help me out here. Does it say that those musical numbers are in this episode? Xtzou (Talk) 20:07, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Each one states "FAMILY GUY celebrates its milestone 150th episode with a special extended episode featuring fan-favorite numbers and never-before-seen musical performances airing Sunday, May 2." Gage (talk) 20:12, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I will take your word for it! Sorry. Xtzou (Talk) 20:13, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Xtzou (Talk) 12:56, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality: Clearly written; grammatically correct

B. MoS compliance: Complies with basic MoS
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources: Reliable sources

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary: Well referenced

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects: Sets the context

B. Focused: Remains focused on the subject
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail: Pass!

Congratulations! Xtzou (Talk) 20:21, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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-'''Reviewer:''' '''<font color="navy">[[User:Xtzou|Xtzou]]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">[[User talk:Xtzou|Talk]]</font>)'' 19:58, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
+'''Reviewer:''' [[User:Xtzou|<b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b>]] ''([[User talk:Xtzou|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 19:58, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 Hi, there is a {{t|clarification needed}} tag which is badly needed as the sentence refers to popular hits, suggesting songs, but the links are to other episodes. Otherwise, everything looks good. I will add any further concerns I may have.
 :Done. [[User:GageSkidmore|Gage]] ([[User talk:GageSkidmore|talk]]) 05:23, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
-'''<font color="navy">[[User:Xtzou|Xtzou]]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">[[User talk:Xtzou|Talk]]</font>)'' 19:58, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
+[[User:Xtzou|<b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b>]] ''([[User talk:Xtzou|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 19:58, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 ;Further comments
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 :The program included songs from the fourth season episode "[[The Fat Guy Strangler]]", the sixth season episode "[[Play It Again, Brian]]", and the eighth season episode "[[Business Guy]]", as well as other songs, including "[[Brian Wallows and Peter's Swallows|You've Got A Lot to See]]", "[[Patriot Games (Family Guy)|Shipoopi]]",  and "[[Peter's Two Dads|My Drunken Irish Dad]]".
 :What are the "songs" being referred to? The reference http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/30/family-guy-animation-business-entertainment-vallow.html says there is no music in the episode. The other reference http://www.foxflash.com/div.php/main/page?aID=1z2z1z25z1z8&ID=6078 says "Immediately following the episode, the celebration will continue with fan-favorite and never-before-seen musical numbers." So, I am confused.
-::Oh, the songs being linked are from those episodes, and aired in the second half hour of the full hour event, of which Brian & Stewie were a part of. [[User:GageSkidmore|Gage]] ([[User talk:GageSkidmore|talk]]) 15:11, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
+::Oh, the songs being linked are from those episodes, and aired in the second half hour of the full hour event, of which Brian & Stewie were a part of. Do you have any suggestion as to better clarifying? [[User:GageSkidmore|Gage]] ([[User talk:GageSkidmore|talk]]) 15:11, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
+:::But no songs are linked, just the episodes. Reading a whole episode article to try to determine a song name is too much to expect of a reader. An neither of the two references given say that songs come from those episodes.  Further, what are the "songs"? If they are "musical numbers" from those episodes, then why not say that? And give a reference that backs it up? [[User:Xtzou|<b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b>]] ''([[User talk:Xtzou|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 15:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
-'''<font color="navy">[[User:Xtzou|Xtzou]]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">[[User talk:Xtzou|Talk]]</font>)'' 12:56, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
+::::I've attempted to clarify the issue. [[User:GageSkidmore|Gage]] ([[User talk:GageSkidmore|talk]]) 15:48, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
+:::::Thank you for doing that. It is better now. The remaining problem is that the references you give for that don't support it (that I can see).  [[User:Xtzou|<b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b>]] ''([[User talk:Xtzou|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 16:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
+::::::Fixed. [[User:GageSkidmore|Gage]] ([[User talk:GageSkidmore|talk]]) 19:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
+:::::::I don't see where the added citation references the songs mentioned. [[User:Xtzou|<b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b>]] ''([[User talk:Xtzou|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 19:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
+::::::::Reference states, among other things: "Pictured: the musical number "Errand Boy" from Season Seven's "Business Guy" episode," "Pictured: the musical number "My Drunken Irish Dad" from Season Five's "Peter's Two Dads" episode," "Pictured: the musical number "NAAFP Anthem" from Season Four's "Fat Guy Strangler" episode," "Pictured: the musical number "Shipoopi" from Season Four's "Patriot Games" episode," "Pictured: the musical number "You've Got A Lot to See" from Season Three's "Brian Wallows and Peter's Swallows" episode." [[User:GageSkidmore|Gage]] ([[User talk:GageSkidmore|talk]]) 19:58, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
+:::::::::Sorry! Help me out here. Does it say that those musical numbers are in this episode?  [[User:Xtzou|<b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b>]] ''([[User talk:Xtzou|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 20:07, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
+::::::::::Each one states "FAMILY GUY celebrates its milestone 150th episode with a special extended episode featuring fan-favorite numbers and never-before-seen musical performances airing Sunday, May 2." [[User:GageSkidmore|Gage]] ([[User talk:GageSkidmore|talk]]) 20:12, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
+:::::::::::Ok, I will take your word for it! Sorry.  [[User:Xtzou|<b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b>]] ''([[User talk:Xtzou|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 20:13, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
+[[User:Xtzou|<b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b>]] ''([[User talk:Xtzou|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 12:56, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
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+Congratulations! [[User:Xtzou|<b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b>]] ''([[User talk:Xtzou|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 20:21, 11 May 2010 (UTC)