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The result was no consensus. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:47, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

William C. White

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This biography appears to have an extremely sketchy basis for its notability, which appears to be primarily derived from the fact that the subject's mother is a notable entry as the founder of a church. Most of the sources attributed to this article merely affirm that the individual was indeed born, with little further information - certainly nothing justifying this rather expansive biographical entry. The sourcing, overall, seems extremely poor. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:10, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment @78.26: Question is this person notable? Catfurball (talk) 15:46, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - as I have, elsewhere, been accused of having a COI, I shall not !vote. However, as I have some expertise in the topic area and there's been minimal participation I should present some sources I know about, [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. Unfortunately I don't have access at the moment to newspapers.com, it has been renewed but it's a significant obstacle to research at the moment. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 19:35, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Ellen G. White. I looked at the article, those five extra sources above, and had a look at newspapers.com. All of it only goes to confirm that any glory enjoyed by William C. White was reflected by his mother. Not independently notable. --Lockley (talk) 01:35, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as there is reliable sources books coverage as shown above including an academic paper solely about him as well as reliable books coverage, so passing WP:GNG imv Atlantic306 (talk) 01:32, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:23, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep Meets WP:GNG. It adds Infomation to the religion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rrmmll22 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 4 November 2021 (UTC)~~ sock strike Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 14:42, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The sources produced by 78.26 demonstrate WP:SIGCOV. The book by Moon (1993) is particularly important: Was Ellen G. White manipulated by her son? An Adventist author explores the life of W.C. White to discover whether he dominated his mother's later years. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 14:58, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 This biography appears to have an extremely sketchy basis for its notability, which appears to be primarily derived from the fact that the subject's mother is a notable entry as the founder of a church. Most of the sources attributed to this article merely affirm that the individual was indeed born, with little further information - certainly nothing justifying this rather expansive biographical entry. The sourcing, overall, seems extremely poor. [[User:Iskandar323|Iskandar323]] ([[User talk:Iskandar323|talk]]) 15:10, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
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 '''Comment''' - as I have, elsewhere, been accused of having a COI, I shall not !vote.  However, as I have some expertise in the topic area and there's been minimal participation I should present some sources I know about, [https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_A_to_Z_of_the_Seventh_Day_Adventists/a2nauTiPRjUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22William+C.+White%22+Adventist&pg=PA326], [https://www.google.com/books/edition/W_C_White_and_Ellen_G_White/zpyfAAAACAAJ?hl=en], [https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ellen_G_White_Encyclopedia/JxBQAwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22William%20C.%20White%22], [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Ellen_G_White_A_Psychobiography/Hl4PEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22William%20C.%20White%22], [https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/white-william-clarence-9288].  Unfortunately I don't have access at the moment to newspapers.com, it has been renewed but it's a significant obstacle to research at the moment.  [[User:78.26|<span style="border:1px solid black;color:red; padding:1px;background:1h5h1h; color: #008B8B;"><b>78.26</b></span>]] <sub>([[User talk:78.26|spin me]] / [[Special:Contributions/78.26|revolutions]])</sub> 19:35, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
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+*'''Redirect''' to [[Ellen G. White]].  I looked at the article, those five extra sources above, and had a look at newspapers.com.  All of it only goes to confirm that any glory enjoyed by William C. White was reflected by his mother.  Not independently notable.  --[[User:Lockley|Lockley]] ([[User talk:Lockley|talk]]) 01:35, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' as there is reliable sources books coverage as shown above including an academic paper solely about him as well as reliable books coverage, so passing [[WP:GNG]] imv [[User:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[User talk:Atlantic306|talk]]) 01:32, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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+<s>Keep Meets WP:GNG. It adds Infomation to the religion.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rrmmll22|Rrmmll22]] ([[User talk:Rrmmll22#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rrmmll22|contribs]]) 02:55, 4 November 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--></s> <small>[[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rrmmll22|sock strike]] [[User:Eggishorn|<span style="background-color:#FF7400; color:#FFFFFF;">Eggishorn</span>]] [[User talk:Eggishorn|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Eggishorn|(contrib)]] 14:42, 9 November 2021 (UTC)</small>
+*'''Keep''' The sources produced by {{u|78.26}} demonstrate [[WP:SIGCOV]]. The [https://www.google.com/books/edition/W_C_White_and_Ellen_G_White/zpyfAAAACAAJ?hl=en book by Moon (1993)] is particularly important: {{tq|Was Ellen G. White manipulated by her son? An Adventist author explores the life of W.C. White to discover whether he dominated his mother's later years.}} [[User:Eggishorn|<span style="background-color:#FF7400; color:#FFFFFF;">Eggishorn</span>]] [[User talk:Eggishorn|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Eggishorn|(contrib)]] 14:58, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
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