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The result was '''delete'''. [[User:78.26|<span style="border:1px solid black;color:red; padding:1px;background:1h5h1h; color: #008B8B;"><b>78.26</b></span>]] <sub>([[User talk:78.26|spin me]] / [[Special:Contributions/78.26|revolutions]])</sub> 19:14, 1 December 2021 (UTC) |
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[[WP:BLP]] of an activist, not [[WP:RS|properly sourced]] as passing our notability criteria for activists. The notability claim here is that he was involved in a group, but the potential notability of the group is not necessarily an instant notability freebie for every individual member of it -- in order to establish ''him'' as notable, there have to be reliable sources ''about him'' and his work. But there are none here, and the article was created by an editor whose username strongly suggests that they're a relative of the subject (which is a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]). As I don't have access to any database in which I could recover American newspaper coverage from the 1960s, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with better resources can actually improve the sourcing, but nothing stated in the text is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have his notability established through media coverage. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 18:50, 9 November 2021 (UTC) |
[[WP:BLP]] of an activist, not [[WP:RS|properly sourced]] as passing our notability criteria for activists. The notability claim here is that he was involved in a group, but the potential notability of the group is not necessarily an instant notability freebie for every individual member of it -- in order to establish ''him'' as notable, there have to be reliable sources ''about him'' and his work. But there are none here, and the article was created by an editor whose username strongly suggests that they're a relative of the subject (which is a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]). As I don't have access to any database in which I could recover American newspaper coverage from the 1960s, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with better resources can actually improve the sourcing, but nothing stated in the text is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have his notability established through media coverage. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 18:50, 9 November 2021 (UTC) |
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* '''Comment''' - undecided on whether these are enough to establish notability, but some clippings. There's honestly not much more that's significant. [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/46804754/st-louis-post-dispatch/] [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/88632917/st-louis-post-dispatch/][https://www.newspapers.com/clip/12859416/st-louis-post-dispatch/] [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/88633135/st-louis-post-dispatch/] [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/60566676/from-1969/] [[User:Urve|Urve]] ([[User talk:Urve|talk]]) 19:42, 9 November 2021 (UTC) |
* '''Comment''' - undecided on whether these are enough to establish notability, but some clippings. There's honestly not much more that's significant. [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/46804754/st-louis-post-dispatch/] [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/88632917/st-louis-post-dispatch/][https://www.newspapers.com/clip/12859416/st-louis-post-dispatch/] [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/88633135/st-louis-post-dispatch/] [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/60566676/from-1969/] [[User:Urve|Urve]] ([[User talk:Urve|talk]]) 19:42, 9 November 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' - Not convinced, even with [[User:Urve|Urve]]'s due diligence. I could not even find a single mention of the subject worth noting on Jstor, etc. [[User:Missvain|Missvain]] ([[User talk:Missvain|talk]]) 22:46, 24 November 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' per nom. I did find two mentions of him on [https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5406/jillistathistsoc.106.2.0224 JSTOR], a misspelling of his name [https://files.shsmo.org/manuscripts/saint-louis/S0509.pdf here] and [https://www.beyondhousing.org/the-real-footprints-of-life-jim-sporleder a blog about a Jim Sporleder who passed away in 2016] with content that matches the content on [[James Hugo Sporleder]]. However, the sources do not meet [[WP:GNG]]. [[User:Heartmusic678|Heartmusic678]] ([[User talk:Heartmusic678|talk]]) 14:32, 1 December 2021 (UTC) |
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WP:BLP of an activist, not properly sourced as passing our notability criteria for activists. The notability claim here is that he was involved in a group, but the potential notability of the group is not necessarily an instant notability freebie for every individual member of it -- in order to establish him as notable, there have to be reliable sources about him and his work. But there are none here, and the article was created by an editor whose username strongly suggests that they're a relative of the subject (which is a conflict of interest). As I don't have access to any database in which I could recover American newspaper coverage from the 1960s, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with better resources can actually improve the sourcing, but nothing stated in the text is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have his notability established through media coverage. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - undecided on whether these are enough to establish notability, but some clippings. There's honestly not much more that's significant. [1] [2][3] [4] [5] Urve (talk) 19:42, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:06, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:49, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - Not convinced, even with Urve's due diligence. I could not even find a single mention of the subject worth noting on Jstor, etc. Missvain (talk) 22:46, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I did find two mentions of him on JSTOR, a misspelling of his name here and a blog about a Jim Sporleder who passed away in 2016 with content that matches the content on James Hugo Sporleder. However, the sources do not meet WP:GNG. Heartmusic678 (talk) 14:32, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.