Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gathania

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. References provided show that the artist did chart, thus satisfying the notability guidelines of WP:MUSIC. Malinaccier (talk) 00:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Gathania

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Ninth place finish on Swedish version of Idol is a far cry from notability. Only sources on article are a trviail mention on a blog (can't tell if it's official or user, as it's in a foreign language) and what looks to be her own website or marketer's website. Would need multiple independent reliable sources with nontrivial coverage to demonstrate notability enough for an article here. DreamGuy (talk) 20:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 22:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

• Keep Blame it on you is gettin heavy airplay. she will be big. keep da page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.76.224 (talk) 16:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

• Comment. Can you provide any evidence of that, such as links to radio station web sites? If it can be verified then the subject might pass WP:MUSIC criterion 11. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:32, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

• Comment. Here is evidence. The google results on Swedish State Radio (Sveriges Radio). http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=Gathania+site%3Asr.se&meta= . It shows some playlists and that Get It Out was on DigiListan for some weeks. This shows she's got airplay on BBC 1 http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=Gathania++site%3Abbc.co.uk&meta=Linnea94 (talk) 13:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

• Delete. Not-notable at this stage. She may enjoy chart success in the future, but right now she's just an Idol contestant. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 00:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)Striking !vote; re-!voting below. This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 15:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Niteshift36 (talk) 05:36, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
• Keep Added some references. She is signed with a record company in Great Britain and Sweden, that makes her notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linnea94 (talk • contribs) 12:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

— Linnea94 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. DreamGuy (talk) 14:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Fails WP:ENTERTAINER, and "she will be big" is not an argument to keep. See WP:CRYSTAL. لennavecia 18:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete per Jennavecia. --Kuzaar^-T-C- 12:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

• Comment. I suppose you and Jennavecia either didnt read the WP:ENTERTAINER or the article itself because that guidline say See WP:MUSIC for guidelines on musicians, composers, groups, etc. Gathania is a musician and not an entertainer. And she fulfills point one and two on WP:MUSIC Criteria for musicians and ensembles. Linnea94 (talk) 14:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

• I can't see "Blame it on You" in either the UK or Swedish charts (UK, Swedish 1, Swedish 2) so I'm not really seeing how WP:MUSIC 1 and 2 apply - she's "been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works" in her capacity as a contestant (hence WP:ENTERTAINER), not - so far as I can see - in her capacity as a musician. WP:MUSIC 2 would apply if she'd charted, not simply by being signed to a record label (which you suggest above makes her notable). Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 14:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

• No not Blame it on You but Get It Out is in Swedish 1, week 7-8. And here [1] on your third link. There are two non-trivial references in her article from Realtid and The Sun. Linnea94 (talk) 14:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

• Keep, per WP:MUSIC 2 ("Has had a charted single or album on any national music chart"): "Get it Out" reached 27 in the Swedish charts (chart complies with WP:Record charts). This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 15:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

27th on a Swedish chart is not notable by any stretch of the imagination. What, are you kidding me? DreamGuy (talk) 14:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Not at all, merely noting that the article achieves notability according to WP:MUSIC. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 14:20, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

• Keep per the evidence of chart success. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
• Keep with evidence of chart success hwsknudsen

—Preceding undated comment added 19:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC).

Comment: My understanding is that being signed doesn't make a subject notable per se (WP:MUSIC#Criteria for musicians and ensembles); it's charting or media reports that do. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 19:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

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