Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barrington Plaza

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy Delete per G7 by Steve Smith. (non-admin closure) MrKIA11 (talk) 18:56, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Barrington Plaza

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Non-notable apartment complex. Google search yields a bunch of hits corroborating this place's existence, but all those hits are to apartment review sites or building/architecture sites. A secondary concern is that there are claims that this was the largest HUD renewal project in the western U.S., but none of the Ghits corroborate this. It also claims the complex was developed by one Louis Lesser in conjunction with U.S. President John F. Kennedy. While I don't doubt that it was developed by Mr. Lesser or his company (which was somewhat shown to me by the author in a separate discussion; more on that later), Kennedy was assassinated two years before HUD was established, so how could the two have worked together on a HUD project? Delete all the content of questionable verifiability, and we're left with "Barrington Plaza is an apartment complex in Los Angeles developed by Lesser Enterprises." I highly doubt that that would satisfy WP:N.

Full disclosure: I started a related AfD on Mr. Lesser's article, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Louis Lesser, and have contributed to a ANI discussion on the author's conduct. KuyaBriBri^Talk 18:19, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

• Speedy delete as G7. Author and only contributor of substantive content has blanked the page and expressed desire to have page deleted on my talk page. Tagged as such. KuyaBriBri^Talk 18:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

• Deleted - I deleted the article because User:Kuyabribri is correct. I made HUGE errors on this article, for example, saying "HUD", when I should have said "F.H.A.". Barrington Plaza was "one of the largest F.H.A. insured projects ever constructed", as verified in the sources in the Louis Lesser article, by Artrhur Anderson & Co., on September 13, 1963, a copy of the audit being cited in the sources.

When I have reliable and verifiable sources for Barrington Plaza, I will notify User:Kuyabribri in advance, so he/she can check I am not making egregious errors again, then recreate the article if User:Kuyabribri is in acreement. I fixed the errors in the Louis Lesser article, doing what several other experienced editors asked me to do, by deleting the whole article, and building it up sentence by sentence with reliable sources. HkFnsNGA (talk) 18:38, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Apparently Bruce Lee lived there, and the Journal of Housing does confirm this was the largest single FHA investment of some sort. Honestly this AFD should probably run for the 7 days... you'd get help from me and maybe other people, as opposed to just working along. --Sancho Mandoval (talk) 18:40, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Also, a lawsuit involving a black man who tried to rent an apartment at this place apparently set some notable precedent. I'm not sure if all of these tidbits add up to notability, but when a lot of interesting things pop out in 5 minutes of searching... it makes me feel like this deserves an AFD. --Sancho Mandoval (talk) 18:43, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

The article has already been deleted. Under ordinary circumstances I would close the discussion in accordance with WP:NAC but I would like to avoid the potential for backlash since I was the nominator. If you believe AfD should run its course, please take this up at WP:DRV or send a message to the deleting admin on his/her talk page. KuyaBriBri^Talk 18:45, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I asked the admin to undelete the article so the AFD can run and I can work on the article. presumably if I'd had time to unblank the article it wouldn't have met a CSD anyway, so I don't think DRV should be needed here. --Sancho Mandoval (talk) 18:49, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.