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The result was keep. John254 01:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P. M. H. Atwater

Not a notable author. Fails WP:BIO. ScienceApologist (talk) 17:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Though Google News results are slim, she does have an entry in Gale's Contemporary Authors, and her first book listed at Worldcat is in 1,133 libraries. Zagalejo^^^ 20:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, here's one news article which should count: [1]. Her book Beyond the Light was also reviewed in Library Journal, Publisher's Weekly, and Booklist (although I can only see the abstracts at ProQuest.) Zagalejo^^^ 20:43, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Pioneering researcher in the field of near death experiences. (While it's possible to discount any paranormal explanations for these experiences, the experiences themselves are investigated and documented by scientists, so it's clearly a valid field to be pioneering in.) Her work is referenced in The Lancet according to this page. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:48, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here's also a couple of MDs supporting one of her books. (http://www.amazon.com/New-Children-Near-Death-Experiences/dp/1591430208/ref=pd_sim_b_3) - Mgm|^(talk) 20:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. She is considered an authority in NDE study by many people in the parapsychological community. For instance she was a speaker at the Academy Of Spirituality and Paranormal Studies, Inc. (ASPSI) 2008 conference [2]. It is true that the article needs to be expanded some, but her notability should not be disputed. Tom Butler (talk) 18:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. She is a noted authority on NDEs, especially on the after-effects of NDEs, on children's NDEs and on hellish NDEs. In 2005, the International Association for Near-death Studies presented her with an Outstanding Service Award and the National Association of Transpersonal Hypnotherapists awarded her a Lifetime Achievement Award [3]. --EPadmirateur (talk) 05:38, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 Not a notable author. Fails [[WP:BIO]]. [[User:ScienceApologist|ScienceApologist]] ([[User talk:ScienceApologist|talk]]) 17:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 *'''Keep''' Though Google News results are slim, she does have an entry in Gale's Contemporary Authors, and her first book listed at [http://www.worldcat.org/search?qt=worldcat_org_all&q=%22p.m.h.+atwater%22 Worldcat] is in 1,133 libraries. [[User: Zagalejo|Zagalejo]]'''[[User talk:Zagalejo|^^^]]''' 20:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
-:Actually, here's one news article which should count: [http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=RO&p_theme=ro&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EAEA19FA9E822EC&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM]. [[User: Zagalejo|Zagalejo]]'''[[User talk:Zagalejo|^^^]]''' 20:43, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
+:Actually, here's one news article which should count: [http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=RO&p_theme=ro&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EAEA19FA9E822EC&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM]. Her book ''Beyond the Light'' was also reviewed in ''Library Journal'', ''Publisher's Weekly'', and ''Booklist'' (although I can only see the abstracts at ProQuest.) [[User: Zagalejo|Zagalejo]]'''[[User talk:Zagalejo|^^^]]''' 20:43, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
+*'''Keep'''. Pioneering researcher in the field of near death experiences. (While it's possible to discount any paranormal explanations for these experiences, the experiences themselves are investigated and documented by scientists, so it's clearly a valid field to be pioneering in.) Her work is referenced in The Lancet according to [http://www.near-death.com/atwater/column/archives/2005/2005_03.html this page]. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:48, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
+:*Here's also a couple of MDs supporting one of her books. (http://www.amazon.com/New-Children-Near-Death-Experiences/dp/1591430208/ref=pd_sim_b_3) - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
+*<small>'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Living people|list of Living people-related deletion discussions]]. --[[User:Erwin85Bot|Erwin85Bot]] ([[User talk:Erwin85Bot|talk]]) 00:02, 2 December 2008 (UTC)</small>
+* '''Keep'''. She is considered an authority in NDE study by many people in the parapsychological community. For instance she was a speaker at the Academy Of Spirituality and Paranormal Studies, Inc. (ASPSI) 2008 conference [http://www.aspsi.org/anco/past_programs/anco2008-program-no_links.htm]. It is true that the article needs to be expanded some, but her notability should not be disputed.  [[User:Tom Butler|Tom Butler]] ([[User talk:Tom Butler|talk]]) 18:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
+* '''Keep'''. She is a noted authority on NDEs, especially on the after-effects of NDEs, on children's NDEs and on hellish NDEs. In 2005, the [[International Association for Near-death Studies]] presented her with an Outstanding Service Award and the National Association of Transpersonal Hypnotherapists awarded her a Lifetime Achievement Award [https://www.iands.org/conferences/speaker_bios/pmh_atwater_lhd.html]. --[[User:EPadmirateur|EPadmirateur]] ([[User talk:EPadmirateur|talk]]) 05:38, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
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