Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nathan Martens Memorial

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:32, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Nathan Martens Memorial and San Tan Pride Association

An attempt to get a bio of an nn person into Wikipedia through the back door. Although deaths are sad, this person is, unfortunately, non-notable, and his memorial doesn't qualify as notable, either. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Please note the multiple links to David Jason Silver, an article also created by this same user, which was deleted previously. More vanity by the same individual using a different method in an attempt to get his name in Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Jason Silver, where it was suggested that the person creating these articles is David Jason Silver. User:Zoe|(talk) 04:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Senator John McCain has it on his Wikipedia web site under references. this is not notable, I think so. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harvardlaw (talk • contribs) 20:15, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting us know about that little bit of spam you left. I've cleaned it up now. Also, please don't edit closed discussions, as you did at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Jason Silver. -- Jonel | Speak 05:05, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I did not leave it John McCain's website, try again. I am not that computer literate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.204.214.142 (talk • contribs) 11:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

This and this suggest otherwise. -- Jonel | Speak 20:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete all per Zoe. Eusebeus 11:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Emeraude 11:46, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge if possible. I've been looking at Category:2003_Iraq_conflict and Category:American_Iraq_War_veterans, but nothing suitable covering war memorials has been written yet. See also Category:Monuments_and_memorials and War memorial, all of which emphasises the non-notability of this particular memorial. Failing anything else, merge the material into Santan, Arizona. Carcharoth 12:12, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all as per Zoe's nom Bwithh 13:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all per nom -- back door memorial. Sorry about the young man, but we don't need 2500 articles on Wikipedia about every KIA (or should we have ~450,000 for all WW2 KIAs?). We certainly don't need two. We presume their local communities are honoring them appropriately. --Dhartung | Talk 21:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all per nom. Arguably sad, but that doesn't make it notable. --Storkk 13:33, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all per nom. More Silver promotion. -Will Beback 00:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

This Silver Kidd is going to open the eyes one day on Wikipedia. He is big time connected. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.204.214.142 (talk • contribs) 11:03, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

• • This edit shows that the above is, surprise surprise, the Silver Kidd again. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

• "A very special" delete. Kafziel ^Talk 20:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
• Comment - Am I the only one to realize that the San Tan article contains more about the memorial than the Memorial article contains? I tend to agree with Carcharoth in this case: Merge after a healthy copyedit. --EarthPerson 23:33, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Um, it has that information because the author of these articles put it there. Something doesn't become more notable just because the author takes the time to edit a mention of it into every related article. Kafziel ^Talk 00:55, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Why do we want to merge non-notable information into other non-notable information? User:Zoe|(talk) 03:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I wasn't clear. I realize that the same author made both articles. I found it interesting that they got sidetracked when writing them. IMO if anything should be kept, from either, it would be a brief mention in the Santan, Arizona article per Carcharoth's suggestion above. --EarthPerson 04:34, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete both, per Zoe, Dhartung, and others. Sorry he died, but non-notable in life and death. The underhanded efforts of David Jason Silver and his sockpuppets (Harvardlaw (talk), 72.204.214.142, 72.204.215.147, 72.204.215.178 (talk), 69.10.123.4 (talk), 24.137.173.67) to promote this and his causes, including himself, are not a credit to the person, to himself, or to the people he associates with. (see also incidentArchive116.) Hu 07:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.