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The result was keep. ferret's arguments have not been disputed. The title of the page can be hashed out in a move discussion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:55, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sniper Elite (series)

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Although the games in the series are notable for their own article, the series itself is not. Lordtobi (✉) 19:38, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:24, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep I'm going to start as a weak keep on this. Reviews and announcements for the various games, and coverage of the developer itself, constantly refer to the series as a whole. News that the series had sold 10 million copies total was carried by multiple RS's. Reviews and news about the various games refer to their features in terms of what the "series" is known for. All that aside, if no one else agrees, then I think it would be better to rename as "List of Sniper Elite games" than to delete. In many cases, these series articles are akin to list-style articles, and the games are definitely discussed as a set. -- ferret (talk) 21:13, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Sniper Elite - Per series page guidelines and WP:NATURAL, the current Sniper Elite should be moved to Sniper Elite: Berlin 1945._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 21:14, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with move, per our series guidelines, especially as there is a novel based on the first game (Giving the series a non-game related media item). However, I'm not sure if the first game should use a little known subtitle as disamb. Sniper Elite (2005 video game) may be more appropriate. We can hash that after AFD is done. -- ferret (talk) 22:02, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well it would just be Sniper Elite (video game) per typical naming scheme but that also would be fine._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 00:42, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't a move discussion. That can be decided after we determine whether the article should exist first. --The1337gamer (talk) 16:58, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/move Earnsthearthrob (talk) 23:31, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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+The result was '''keep'''. ferret's arguments have not been disputed. The title of the page can be hashed out in a move discussion. [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]], [[Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus|contributions]]) 18:55, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
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-Although the games in the series are notable for their own article, the series itself is not. [[User:Lordtobi|<font face="Impact">Lordtobi</font>]] ([[User talk:Lordtobi|<font color="#B0B0B0">&#9993;</font>]]) 19:38, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
+Although the games in the series are notable for their own article, the series itself is not. [[User:Lordtobi|<span style="font-family: Impact;">Lordtobi</span>]] ([[User talk:Lordtobi|<span style="color: #B0B0B0;">&#9993;</span>]]) 19:38, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Video games|list of Video games-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Shawn in Montreal|Shawn in Montreal]] ([[User talk:Shawn in Montreal|talk]]) 20:24, 9 October 2017 (UTC)</small>
 *'''Weak Keep''' I'm going to start as a weak keep on this. Reviews and announcements for the various games, and coverage of the developer itself, constantly refer to the series as a whole. News that the series had sold 10 million copies total was carried by multiple RS's. Reviews and news about the various games refer to their features in terms of what the "series" is known for. All that aside, if no one else agrees, then I think it would be better to rename as "List of Sniper Elite games" than to delete. In many cases, these series articles are akin to list-style articles, and the games are definitely discussed as a set. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 21:13, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
+*'''Move to Sniper Elite''' - Per series page guidelines and [[WP:NATURAL]], the current [[Sniper Elite]] should be moved to [[Sniper Elite: Berlin 1945]].<sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 21:14, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
+:*Agree with move, per our series guidelines, especially as there is a novel based on the first game (Giving the series a non-game related media item). However, I'm not sure if the first game should use a little known subtitle as disamb. [[Sniper Elite (2005 video game)]] may be more appropriate. We can hash that after AFD is done. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 22:02, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
+::*Well it would just be [[Sniper Elite (video game)]] per typical naming scheme but that also would be fine.<sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 00:42, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
+::::This isn't a move discussion. That can be decided after we determine whether the article should exist first. --[[User:The1337gamer|The1337gamer]] ([[User talk:The1337gamer|talk]]) 16:58, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
+*'''Merge/move''' [[User:Earnsthearthrob|Earnsthearthrob]] ([[User talk:Earnsthearthrob|talk]]) 23:31, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
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