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The result was '''delete'''. [[User:Doczilla|<span style="color:green;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">Doczilla</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Doczilla|<small>@SUPERHEROLOGIST</small>]]</sub> 19:29, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
===[[:Zacharie Mbenda]]===
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Footballer who has only played at semi-pro/amateur level with no apparent significant coverage. [https://int.soccerway.com/players/zacharie-mbenda/809485/ Soccerway] has nothing for him. [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Zacharie+Mbenda%22&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiUu9ysiuL1AhUBlP0HHVZXA60Q_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=2133&bih=1041&dpr=0.9 Google News] has a few passing mentions. [https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Zacharie+Mbenda%22&t=h_&ia=web DDG] similarly has a lack of detailed coverage. Not seeing enough for [[WP:GNG]]. [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 22:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Footballer who has only played at semi-pro/amateur level with no apparent significant coverage. [https://int.soccerway.com/players/zacharie-mbenda/809485/ Soccerway] has nothing for him. [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Zacharie+Mbenda%22&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiUu9ysiuL1AhUBlP0HHVZXA60Q_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=2133&bih=1041&dpr=0.9 Google News] has a few passing mentions. [https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Zacharie+Mbenda%22&t=h_&ia=web DDG] similarly has a lack of detailed coverage. Not seeing enough for [[WP:GNG]]. [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 22:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
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*<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Football|list of Football-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 22:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)</small>
*<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Football|list of Football-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 22:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)</small>
*<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cameroon|list of Cameroon-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 22:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)</small>
*<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cameroon|list of Cameroon-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 22:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)</small>
*<small>Note: This discussion has been included in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Football#Nominations for deletion and page moves|WikiProject Football]]'s list of association football-related deletions. [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 22:43, 2 February 2022 (UTC)</small>
*'''Delete''' per nom.--[[User:Ortizesp|Ortizesp]] ([[User talk:Ortizesp|talk]]) 15:34, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 18:38, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''<s>Weak Keep</s>''' '''Draftify'''- because he meets criterion #2 of [[WP:NFOOTBALL]] as the team is in an Indian League listed as professional here [[WP:FPL]]. [[User:Caphadouk|Caphadouk]] ([[User talk:Caphadouk|talk]])
::He actually fails NFOOTBALL as he hasn't played a game (yet); see [https://int.soccerway.com/players/zacharie-mbenda/809485/ here] [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 18:52, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
::: That site may not be reliable or have up to date info. [https://www.sierraleonenews.net/news/271534247/kenkre-fc-keep-i-league-hopes-alive-with-1-1-draw-against-delhi-fc HERE] is proof that he has played at least one game. Also he is Top 3 signing for the team, [https://khelnow.com/football/i-league-2021-22-kenkre-fc-all-you-need-to-know See Here]. [[User:Caphadouk|Caphadouk]] ([[User talk:Caphadouk|talk]]) 22:08, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
::: Note he has also played for [[Don_Bosco_SC]], which is another professional team. Check the same citation above. [[User:Caphadouk|Caphadouk]] ([[User talk:Caphadouk|talk]]) 22:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
:::: Changing my vote to Drafify due to discussions below. I feel he will meet [[WP:NFOOTBALL]] very soon, when he plays at least one professional game with the current team he is with. [[User:Caphadouk|Caphadouk]] ([[User talk:Caphadouk|talk]]) 07:18, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
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*Comment: if Caphadouk could reply with a source, about Don Bosco and more, I would be able to comment on the reply. [[User:Geschichte|Geschichte]] ([[User talk:Geschichte|talk]]) 17:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' - {{u|Caphadouk}} the game mentioned at [https://www.sierraleonenews.net/news/271534247/kenkre-fc-keep-i-league-hopes-alive-with-1-1-draw-against-delhi-fc this source] is from the [[2021_I-League_Qualifiers#Finals|2nd tier of India]] which is not listed at [[WP:FPL]] so he doesn't pass [[WP:NFOOTBALL]] from that source. Also, Kenkre don't appear to have played a game in the [[2021–22 I-League]] yet so Mbenda hasn't had a chance to pass. Is there any significant coverage of him? Is there a source for these alleged [[Don Bosco FC]] games? [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 18:39, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
:: [https://khelnow.com/football/i-league-2021-22-kenkre-fc-all-you-need-to-know this is the article] that says he played for Don Bosco. [https://www.sierraleonenews.net/news/271534247/kenkre-fc-keep-i-league-hopes-alive-with-1-1-draw-against-delhi-fc and this is the article] that shows he played at least one game for Kenkre. All where added in the article, if you had just checked. [[User:Caphadouk|Caphadouk]] ([[User talk:Caphadouk|talk]]) 18:56, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
::: If you read it again the first article clearly says [[Don Bosco SC]] which plays in Sri Lanka, all of which is at [[WP:NOTFPL]] so that doesn't support NFOOTBALL at all. As I already said above, the game against Delhi was in the [[2021_I-League_Qualifiers#Finals|2021 I-League Qualifiers]] so, again, means nothing. It was a playoff game from the second tier for teams trying to get promoted to the top tier, see also [https://administrator.the-aiff.com/reports/9507_Match_Summary_V1_1634721539.pdf this report]. If you believe that the Sri Lankan league and/or the I-League Qualifiers should be listed as fully professional then you need to take it to [[WT:FPL]]. Also, where is the significant coverage to support GNG? [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 19:33, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
:::: But Kenkre is a current team in i-League, check here [[I-League]] and he is playing in i-League. The question now remains whether or not he has played at least one game with them in i-League. But even if he hasn't he could be very close to this, so if it it decided to delete the page, it is best to draft it instead until this happens.[[User:Caphadouk|Caphadouk]] ([[User talk:Caphadouk|talk]]) 03:20, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
::::: Draftify would be a good solution, on the condition that he only returns to mainspace upon fully professional debut or meeting GNG [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 19:03, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
* '''Delete''', Not a fully professional player, does not meet [[WP:GNG]]. [[User:Alex-h|Alex-h]] ([[User talk:Alex-h|talk]]) 15:29, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 19:29, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Footballer who has only played at semi-pro/amateur level with no apparent significant coverage. Soccerway has nothing for him. Google News has a few passing mentions. DDG similarly has a lack of detailed coverage. Not seeing enough for WP:GNG. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He actually fails NFOOTBALL as he hasn't played a game (yet); see here Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:52, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That site may not be reliable or have up to date info. HERE is proof that he has played at least one game. Also he is Top 3 signing for the team, See Here. Caphadouk (talk) 22:08, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note he has also played for Don_Bosco_SC, which is another professional team. Check the same citation above. Caphadouk (talk) 22:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Changing my vote to Drafify due to discussions below. I feel he will meet WP:NFOOTBALL very soon, when he plays at least one professional game with the current team he is with. Caphadouk (talk) 07:18, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: to allow the replies to Caphadouk to form consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 23:30, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

this is the article that says he played for Don Bosco. and this is the article that shows he played at least one game for Kenkre. All where added in the article, if you had just checked. Caphadouk (talk) 18:56, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you read it again the first article clearly says Don Bosco SC which plays in Sri Lanka, all of which is at WP:NOTFPL so that doesn't support NFOOTBALL at all. As I already said above, the game against Delhi was in the 2021 I-League Qualifiers so, again, means nothing. It was a playoff game from the second tier for teams trying to get promoted to the top tier, see also this report. If you believe that the Sri Lankan league and/or the I-League Qualifiers should be listed as fully professional then you need to take it to WT:FPL. Also, where is the significant coverage to support GNG? Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:33, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But Kenkre is a current team in i-League, check here I-League and he is playing in i-League. The question now remains whether or not he has played at least one game with them in i-League. But even if he hasn't he could be very close to this, so if it it decided to delete the page, it is best to draft it instead until this happens.Caphadouk (talk) 03:20, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify would be a good solution, on the condition that he only returns to mainspace upon fully professional debut or meeting GNG Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:03, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.