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The result was move to Zone (play). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:46, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Zone (book)

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No sign of notability, and no third party references. Article was restored after a WP:REFUND request, even though it had been deleted almost 2 years prior (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:37, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:20, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The article title is not much use for finding sources - I suggest Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL instead. Using this, there are plenty of Google hits. The play (not book) was the first major success for its author, Marcel Dubé, and still seems to be performed regularly - the problem looks like being filtering out the one-sentence title checks in short biographies of the author and the one-line notices of yet another performance, and then seeing what's left. I think it quite likely to be enough for notability for an article separate from that for its author, but can't be certain. PWilkinson (talk) 13:00, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Move to Zone (play) Is this really about a book, though? I mean, I know that's what it says in the title, but the lede reads: Zone is a French-language three-act play written by French-Canadian author Marcel Dubé. I am not sure they are different things. According to this article, the play won "top awards" at the Dominion Drama festival in Canada during the 1950s, so I think that qualifies for notability. I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 01:51, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Zone (play) per PWilkinson and I Jethrobot. Here is another mention of the award [1], and it is also mentioned here [2] as shown by the Google snippet. Some more coverage [3] [4] [5] — frankie (talk) 16:22, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

this is useful, please don't delete this page, it helps those who are reading the play in french. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.68.150 (talk) 04:21, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Zone (play). notability established with the award. --Joopercoopers (talk) 01:07, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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-No sign of notability, and no third party references.  Article was restored after a [[WP:REFUND]] request, even though it had been deleted almost 2 years prior ([[User talk:Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→</font>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;[[User:Bwilkins|BWilkins]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">←track</font>]]) 20:37, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
+No sign of notability, and no third party references.  Article was restored after a [[WP:REFUND]] request, even though it had been deleted almost 2 years prior ([[User talk:Bwilkins|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">talk→</span>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;[[User:Bwilkins|BWilkins]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Bwilkins|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">←track</span>]]) 20:37, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
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 *'''Comment''' The article title is not much use for finding sources - I suggest {{find|"Zone" "Marcel Dubé"}} instead. Using this, there are plenty of Google hits. The play (not book) was the first major success for its author, [[Marcel Dubé]], and still seems to be performed regularly - the problem looks like being filtering out the one-sentence title checks in short biographies of the author and the one-line notices of yet another performance, and then seeing what's left. I think it quite likely to be enough for notability for an article separate from that for its author, but can't be certain. [[User:PWilkinson|PWilkinson]] ([[User talk:PWilkinson|talk]]) 13:00, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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-*'''Move to [[Zone (play)]]''' Is this really about a book, though?  I mean, I know that's what it says in the title, but the lede reads: ''Zone is a French-language three-act play written by French-Canadian author Marcel Dubé.''  I am not sure they are different things.  According to [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=mNMxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qOQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=7403,2082315&dq=zone+marcel+dub%C3%A9&hl=en this article], the play won "top awards" at the Dominion Drama festival in Canada during the 1950s, so I think that qualifies for notability. [[User:I Jethrobot|<font color="green" face="Corbel"><b>I, Jethrobot</b></font>]][[User talk:I Jethrobot| <sup>drop me a line</sup>]] <small>(note: not a [[WP:BOT|bot]]!)</small> 01:51, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
+*'''Move to [[Zone (play)]]''' Is this really about a book, though?  I mean, I know that's what it says in the title, but the lede reads: ''Zone is a French-language three-act play written by French-Canadian author Marcel Dubé.''  I am not sure they are different things.  According to [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=mNMxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qOQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=7403,2082315&dq=zone+marcel+dub%C3%A9&hl=en this article], the play won "top awards" at the Dominion Drama festival in Canada during the 1950s, so I think that qualifies for notability. [[User:I Jethrobot|<b style="color:green; font-family:Corbel;">I, Jethrobot</b>]][[User talk:I Jethrobot| <sup>drop me a line</sup>]] <small>(note: not a [[WP:BOT|bot]]!)</small> 01:51, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 *'''Move to [[Zone (play)]]''' per PWilkinson and I Jethrobot. Here is another mention of the award [http://books.google.com/books?id=AOzcVm1n-48C&pg=PA41&dq=%22%22Zone%22+%22Marcel+Dub%C3%A9%22%22&hl=en&ei=YEe9TsLsEI22tweItLy7Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false], and it is also mentioned here [http://books.google.com/books?id=BDNaAAAAMAAJ&q=%22%22Zone%22+%22Marcel+Dub%C3%A9%22%22&dq=%22%22Zone%22+%22Marcel+Dub%C3%A9%22%22&hl=en&ei=YEe9TsLsEI22tweItLy7Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CFMQ6AEwCQ] as shown by the Google snippet. Some more coverage [http://hugotherien.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/zone-de-marcel-dube/] [http://books.google.com/books?id=d-p0EewMkaAC&pg=PA1909&dq=%22%22Zone%22+%22Marcel+Dub%C3%A9%22%22&hl=en&ei=YEe9TsLsEI22tweItLy7Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=false] [http://books.google.com/books?ei=YEe9TsLsEI22tweItLy7Bg&ct=result&id=razpAAAAMAAJ&dq=%22%22Zone%22+%22Marcel+Dub%C3%A9%22%22&q=ZONE+par+Marcel+Dub%C3%A9#search_anchor] — [[User:Frankie|frankie]] ([[User talk:Frankie|talk]]) 16:22, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
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