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== May 2012 ==
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== Illyrians ==


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Welcome to Wiki:))
Anyway I don't think that you should quit on this. Every article has this kind of issues (although Albanian related articles have more since there are ''many neighbours'':) which prefer to put them outside that area propably descending from the Mars:)) The problem in the Balkan area is that there was not a free circulation of ideas and the problem is still persisting. For eg Greek editors publish in Greek language (from the Greek authors and others translated) ''mainly books supporting their thesis'' not alternatives (although you can find them in the web) and also the common people is more prone to ''believe'' and buy these books than the others. The same happens in all the Balkan states especially in those countires which have still open issues:) with their neighbours. That's why it is very difficult to cooperate sometimes. Anyway Fut is not as bad as you think;) [[User:Aigest|Aigest]] ([[User talk:Aigest|talk]]) 07:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


Hi,<br>
Yep I know that photo. It was discovered near Pogradec. The original photo is more extended though, in the left there is an Illyrian fighter and in the right a macedonian. Behind the Illyrian(on horse) ther is a snake totem of Illyrians(not seen in this picture). The problem is we don't know if this photo can be used (property rights). [[User:Aigest|Aigest]] ([[User talk:Aigest|talk]]) 14:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
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Nope I didn't read Gawrych except few passages in a library while I was searching for other stuff. Interestingly sometimes it has been misquoted here in wiki. (eg Souliotes article talk page). If you need other stuff for Kosova just ask;) [[User:Aigest|Aigest]] ([[User talk:Aigest|talk]]) 12:01, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


Hi,<br>
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I tagged [[Serbia]] like you suggested it. --[[User:Mustafa Mustamann|Mustafa Mustamann]] ([[User talk:Mustafa Mustamann|talk]]) 12:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

== Number 60 is Bahrain ==

http://kosovothanksyou.com/ Bahrain recognized today and today is the 19th, right? So why do you revert it? --[[User:Mustafa Mustamann|Mustafa Mustamann]] ([[User talk:Mustafa Mustamann|talk]]) 21:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


Sorry bro, I was editing something else: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/26/kosovo.serbia

have a look, must of been by accident

:No problem. Great article, Noel is so right! --[[User:Mustafa Mustamann|Mustafa Mustamann]] ([[User talk:Mustafa Mustamann|talk]]) 21:21, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


Lets just hope Serb nationalists don't hijack it [[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 21:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

== Dardanians ==

I have updated the Wiki page at Dardanians, please take a look at the changes. Since you have contributed to Kosovo article I am wondering if you have any related material for the Dardani tribes. Bests [[User:Aigest|Aigest]] ([[User talk:Aigest|talk]]) 17:05, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


I have found these coins attributed to Dardanian, Damastion mines;

http://www.coinarchives.com/a/lotviewer.php?LotID=247008&AucID=359&Lot=211

Also this figurine, although 6000 years old might be relevant?

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/43007000/jpg/_43007819_goddess203.jpg

What do you think?
[[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 23:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

They look great but there is the same problems as that of Illyrians (property rights) only free photos are accepted in wiki. Bests [[User:Aigest|Aigest]] ([[User talk:Aigest|talk]]) 14:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Thank you for your effort ==

Could you also take care of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Free_Trade_Agreement TIA. --[[User:Mustafa Mustamann|Mustafa Mustamann]] ([[User talk:Mustafa Mustamann|talk]]) 20:59, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

A critical view [http://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/577/1/Binder2.pdf] of Noel Malcolm and the Serb migration. Hope it is useful. Bests [[User:Aigest|Aigest]] ([[User talk:Aigest|talk]]) 10:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== Freedom fighters?? ==

Interestedinfairness, it really doesn't seem to be that you're interested in fairness. I hope you know that [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kosovo&diff=291808755&oldid=291792680 this edit] is in clear violation of Wikipedia's NPOV rule. Do you? Now, I'm sure you're well aware that the word "''freedom fighter''" is an POV word in no matter which context you use it, as somebody who is a "freedom fighter" (or "freedom warrior" or "freedom fry", whatever) to you, might not be that to the rest. "Separatist guerillas" is something, however, that I'm sure you should agree with - Did the KLA want to separate Kosovo from Serbia? Yes, therefore, they are separatists. Did they engage in guerilla tactics to try to achieve this? Yes, therefore, they are guerillas. Try to be more neutral in the future. Thanks, --[[User:Cinéma C|<span style="color:black">'''''Cin'''''</span><span style="color:crimson">'''é'''</span><span style="color:black">'''''ma''''' </span><span style="color:crimson">'''''C'''''</span>]] 19:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Cinema, why don't you go check out the Serbia page which is full of erroneous statements and stop worrying about Kosovo! Was Milosevic the cruelest and most brutal head of a state since Hitler? Yes he was. Did he terrorise Albanians in Kosovo through his druggie army? Yes. Therefore the KLA were freedom fighters, who engaged in guerrilla tactics. Nevertheless, I won't use the word freedom fighter, I will say the KLA engaged the Serbs that is it, if people want to find out about it they can search KLA. [[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 13:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

And your edits are useful, but too long for the introduction. Thanks, [[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 13:21, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think you understand the difference between '''facts''' and '''opinion'''. Was Milosevic the cruelest and most brutal head of a state since Hitler? In '''fact''', Hitler caused a war that cost the lives of over 24 million soldiers and 49 million civilians, while the Yugoslav wars in the 1990s, according to some sources, led to over 140,000 deaths (35,000 of which were Serbs, 64,000 Bosniaks, 21,000 Croats, 14,000 Albanians and 18 Slovenes). ''73 million'' and ''140 thousand'' - that's the difference. In fact, here are brutal and cruel wars and conflicts since Hitler caused by heads of states that did much more damage than Milosevic, Tudjman, Izetbegovic, Jashari and Thaci altogether: [[Vietnam war]] (1959-1975): 2.5 - 5 million dead; [[Korean War]] (1950-1953): 2.5 - 3.5 million dead; [[Civil war in Afghanistan|Afghan civil war]] (1979-present): 1.5 - 2 million dead...

Did he terrorise Albanians in Kosovo through his druggie army? The Yugoslav Army (you might be surprised, but soldiers aren't allowed to take drugs) did commit lots of war crimes towards Albanians. The Kosovo Liberation Army's goal was to provoke them by attacking civilians and security forces. Now, your argument could be used both ways - Yes, Milosevic did terrorize Albanians, but yes, the KLA terrorized Serbs, pro-Serb Albanians and others who were loyal to the Yugoslav government - and you VERY WELL know that Albanians didn't want to separate because of Milosevic - pro-independence protests started back in the early 1980s, while Milosevic was an unknown banker... so guess who started turning up the temperature - something that usually leads to war in the Balkans.

Lastly, the term 'freedom fighter' is a relative term and can NOT be used generally. Reason? I can say that my physics teacher doesn't let me go outside the classroom during class and then take out my gun and shoot him. To me and my fellow classmates, I am a freedom fighter. To the real world, I'm a murderer. Everyone sees things differently, depending on their perspective. Deal with it. Thanks, --[[User:Cinéma C|<span style="color:black">'''''Cin'''''</span><span style="color:crimson">'''é'''</span><span style="color:black">'''''ma''''' </span><span style="color:crimson">'''''C'''''</span>]] 01:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Kosovo was not "returned" to Serbia, because it had a history of an Albanian majority within Kosovo before the Slavs settled there.<ref>Noel Malcolm, A short history of Kosovo, (London, 1995)</ref> So please refrain from edit warning and provide reliable sources; [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Source#Sources]. [[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 20:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:It is disputed if Albanians are direct descendants of Illyrians, seeing as how all the peoples of the Balkans mixed up with Illyrians (did you know that the first Croatian national movement was called the [[Illyrian movement]]?).. so don't present '''theories''' as clear, undisputed '''facts'''. That's not what Wikipedia is about. Thanks, --[[User:Cinéma C|<span style="color:black">'''''Cin'''''</span><span style="color:crimson">'''é'''</span><span style="color:black">'''''ma''''' </span><span style="color:crimson">'''''C'''''</span>]] 17:59, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Kosovo... YET again. ==

Because you're pushing a POV, not focusing on Neutral reporting, because, I know...'there's NO neutrality as long as Kosovo is owned by 'Serbs/Albanians and Albanians/Serbs stand on the ground.' I don't care. When you pull cites to push a POV edit about who 'really' owns that land, it's going to be reverted, as NUMEROUS editors have done to you repeatedly in the past few days about this edit. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] ([[User talk:ThuranX|talk]]) 23:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


Can you give me a specific edit where I was pushing POV? As I said the Ottoman part, in particular has been made so much better, sources such as Noel Malcolm are '''neutral''' so is '''Isa Blumi''' and '''George Gawlyrch''', the last two in particular are recent works?! [[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 23:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


Furthermore, a link for the population of Pristina was added (as was requested). A link regarding the Young Turks was also added.
Non neutral sources claiming Serbian deportation were removed, as Noel Malcolm clearly identifies these to be false claims by Serb nationalists. [[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 23:40, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

:No, you made that section horrible. You removed halves of sentences, leaving fragments behind. What was left was not coherent, left out massive sets of facts and citation, and came off as a "Kosovo's always been 'ours'" set of edits, rather than a neutral history of who has lived there and who controlled the land. Until you learn to write in English as a fluent writer, and to work with others collaboratively, I think you're gong to have more problems.[[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] ([[User talk:ThuranX|talk]]) 20:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

::Like I said, I'll keep reverting so long as you continue to POV push about who 'really owns Kosovo', and continue to remove citations to fact which you feel cast Serbia in a light you don't agree with, and continue to use poor grammar, fragmentary sentences, and other poor language. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] ([[User talk:ThuranX|talk]]) 02:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== New edits (Kosovo) ==

+ :) You're doing O.K. with your last edits, just watch what you delete or someone will find a reason for deleting all your (good) work.[[User:Brutaldeluxe|Brutaldeluxe]] ([[User talk:Brutaldeluxe|talk]]) 00:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== NPOV ==

Here [http://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/577/1/Binder2.pdf] please read it before discussing. [[User:Aigest|Aigest]] ([[User talk:Aigest|talk]]) 10:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


I have already studies the Ottoman period, but unfortunately the emphasis is not laid on the Balkans as much as it should be. This should be useful.

[[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 11:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== [[G-4 Super Galeb]] ==

Hi, [[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]], I need your assistance on this article, especially with this paragraph:
"During the [[Kosovo War]] the G-4 was used in few combat missions. Propagandistic claims were made in the Serbian media{{fact|May 2009}} about G-4 Super Galebs being used in attacks on [[NATO]] bases in Tirana and Tuzla{{fact|May 2009}} but [[Yugoslav Army]] officials never confirmed the rumours; the Albanian government also denied any G-4 attacks took place. Seven G-4 aircraft from the [[Leteće Zvezde]] display team were destroyed at [[Golubovci Airbase]]."
I cannot find any info in English, seen as a Google search just returns lots about the NATO bombings. I was wondering if you might be able to find an Albanian/English source for the claims about the Galeb's actions in the Kosovo War. Yours,[[User:Brutaldeluxe|Brutaldeluxe]] ([[User talk:Brutaldeluxe|talk]]) 00:00, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Haha that was funny. Yugoslav navy stayed in the ports (none dared to move and they were spared for Montenegro's sake non wanted to expand the conflict in Montenegro since Montenegrins also wanted the separation from Serbs) and the Yugoslav airspace was 24/24 surveillance, those who dared simply were shot down quickly. What we have here is pure propaganda of Serb media (not even Yugoslav army officials confirmed that!?!?!) Haha also to many reporters of foreign newspapers in Tirana (refugee crises) none listened?!?! It would have been ridiculous if it wasn't still used to ''"form"'' Serb nationalism. [[User:Aigest|Aigest]] ([[User talk:Aigest|talk]]) 07:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


Lol. I've only seen one instance where Serbian forces crossed into Albania, there they were held off by Albanian villagers until the proper army came and took care of them [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff-byr-3gkA check it out]. [[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 11:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
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==Kosovo==

Your edits have become POV vandalism, including, but not limited to editing against consensus, and blanking of entire sections of cited information. If you cannot stop POV pushing for nationalistic interests, please go elsewhere for a new hobby. Otherwise, accept that the world doesn't care what your opinions are, but what neutrally citable information shows. If you persist, it seems inevitable that an RfC will be opened against you, as you're upsetting many editors with yoru behaviors, and that's the usual course for such problems. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] ([[User talk:ThuranX|talk]]) 01:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


Well if you have a look at the article you will see ridiculous "information" all over the place. The ''great Serbian migration'' is one such example. It is possible that you cannot tell the difference between neutral sources and myths. But nonetheless, with my help the article looked good, so stop complaining and accusing me of nationalism?! Wikipedia is maintained by people like me. ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 11:18, 2 June 2009 (UTC)).

I see you are revert-warring at [[Kosovo]] again.[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kosovo&diff=293922724&oldid=293850404]
Your account has already been blocked once (by me) for exactly that, and you should know better. I recognize that your edits are in good faith. Parts of them are clearly improvements, while other parts are not. '''This isn't good enough'''. After you were reverted, you need to sort out which parts of your edit were uncontroversial and which were problematic. Just restoring your revision wholesale is unproductive edit-warring and gets you blocked.
I refrain from slapping you with another block just now to give you a chance to sort out the mess yourself.
Unfortunately, your general behaviour is not very promising, and you show little signs of being here for anything but patriotic pov-pushing. Such behaviour is not welcome. I recognize that you are open to reasonable debate, but this attitude needs to begin affecting your editing behaviour rather soon now. --[[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|(𒁳)]]</small> 11:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll try my best, I'm improving all the time :-). I've used the Japan article as a blueprint for the Kosovo one, it made the article look 100% neater and its still edited, you ever wondered why?? ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 11:42, 2 June 2009 (UTC)).

I have again reverted your edits, as vandalism. You know the content you keep pushing is seems as a POV push, and you clearly don't care abou the opinions of others regarding your edits. You are clearly intent on continuing to POV push. Stop now. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] ([[User talk:ThuranX|talk]]) 11:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


Be specific on what you are accusing me. I.e. give me an example of "POV" pushing. ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 12:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)).

:I have already. For one, putting Ottoman empire in quotes, which implies the title is not legitimate. Or saying it 'enjoyed' something, instead of held a status. Further, you've had repeated plagarism problems, and many, many edits about which people Kosovo belongs to, and these are problems others have noted and explained as well. I'm jsut the one who has tried the longest to talk to you about this, and frankly, I'm done, and see the next step as referring you to [[WP:AE]], as I believe there's an open arbcom decision about this article and topic. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] ([[User talk:ThuranX|talk]]) 00:38, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

[[User:Interestedinfairness|Notreallyinterestedinfairness]] you really need to take a break and rethink the way you edit, I'm starting to think that you are just a [[Troll (Internet)|troll]].
:[[User:Brutaldeluxe|Brutaldeluxe]] ([[User talk:Brutaldeluxe|talk]]) 01:22, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


*Thuranx, the only criticism of me seems to be that I used the word 'enjoyed' and also putt Ottoman empire in quotation marks! I've checked out all your edits against me and you have absolutely no argument, so please '''don't threaten me'''.

*Regarding the plagiarism, that was a mistake borne out of ignorance, not POv pushing.


Regarding the origins of the Albanians, you have no say on the matter because you are not involved in the discussions. It's easy to get involved, here: [[Illyrians]].

([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 10:50, 3 June 2009 (UTC)).

:The above listed problems were examples, symptoms, of a greater problem. You have been pushing your POV regarding the serbs and Kosovo, and frankly, many people have said so, have reverted you, and it's just getting tiresome. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] ([[User talk:ThuranX|talk]]) 20:29, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


The only people reverting me are:

*a) you
*b) cinema

If you feel that strongly about the state of the [[Kosovo]] article, why don't you ever do anything about it, i.e. add some more neutral citations or shortening really long sections?

One more thing, you don't see me accusing you of pushing a POV, even though your actions can be interpreted that way, so please pick your words more carefully in the future.

Any '''constructive''' criticism you may have is welcome. ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 21:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)).

== Are you discriminating me? ==

Are you suggesting that I'm a Serb? How can you be sure I'm not Czech, hmmm? And English '''is''' my first language. Besides, are you discriminating me because of my ethnicity? --[[User:Cinéma C|<span style="color:black">'''''Cin'''''</span><span style="color:crimson">'''é'''</span><span style="color:black">'''''ma''''' </span><span style="color:crimson">'''''C'''''</span>]] 07:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== Some cautions ==

Firstly, you appear to be engaging in a revert war on [[Yugoslav wars]]. Reverting other editors edits, particularly repeatedly without comment, may lead to your being blocked. Please discontinue, and discuss the edits with other editors. Secondly, you simply can not refer to other editors, either as a group, or by name, as 'ultra-nationalists'. This can be construed as a personal attack, and may also lead to your blocking. In my opinion you have been disruptive across many Balkans related articles, and that could lead to your being topic banned from those articles. Please make sure to remember to collaborate with others, as opposed to making accusatory remarks or unexplained changes to their edits without discussion. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 01:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


What do you mean revert wars? I made an edit to the intro, the user Brutal delux reverted my edit. I went on his talk page, he didn't respond. He reverted me again while claiming that I had missed out chunks. I only missed out one thing (ethnicity) and that has now been put in. I always collaborate, [[Mitrovica]] is a good example of where I gained consensus for a contentious topic. '''There are ultra-nationalists on here''', I think you should bear in mind that [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_wp_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_censored Wikipedia is not censored], therefore there are far worse things I could (legally) call people.
I am not "disruptive" on Balkan articles, its just that certain users like to form gangs and all push the same agenda. I have never been accused of POV, only edit warring.

Have a look at your talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Prodego here];
specifically this user "Tocino" and then tell me he is not an ultra-nationalists when he posits things like; "Here's what the Western Balkans should look like if you want peace and stability: [2]"
user is propagating the notion of a greater Serbia!, the conquoring of millions of people, and you tell me I'm distruptive, please. Double standards. ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 01:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)).

:See [[WP:EW]]. Tocino can express his opinion quietly, so long as it does not disrupt the site, and does not affect his content edits. So may you. However, you may not attack another editor for their beliefs. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 01:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough, I still find it hard to believe some one who has those sorts of views can contribute neutrally...especially in the Balkans topics, lol. Thanks for the warning by the way, hope to have some constructive dialogues with you in the future. ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 01:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)).
:Contributing neutrally to a topic you feel strongly about is simply a matter of self control. I've personally removed subtle vandalism from [[Young Earth Creationism]]. And for the record, [[WP:CENSOR]] doesn't trump [[WP:NPA]]. --<font color="#330033">[[User:Kingoomieiii|Kingoomieiii ♣]] <font color="#ff6600"><small><small>[[User talk:Kingoomieiii|Talk]]</small></small></font></font> 01:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Yugoslav Wars ==

Hi, i noticed your changes in the article [[Yugoslav wars]] and thought there could be an disscusion about the changes. I made an input in [[Talk:Yugoslav wars]]. Regards --[[User:Nirvana77|Nirvana77]] ([[User talk:Nirvana77|talk]]) 15:28, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

The [[Dayton Agreement]]s were designed to stop the [[war in Bosnia]]. They did not take care of Albanians of [[Kosovo]] because it was a separate issue, and it would only have impeded to reach any agreement. Do you refer to any academic publication to introduce the link between the two? Bests, --[[User:Dans|Dans]] ([[User talk:Dans|talk]]) 12:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Here is an article written in 2000 by Dr Janez Drnovšek, former Prime Minister of Slovenia and President of Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia in 1990 which will explain some things. [http://www.kosovotimes.net/analysis/595-the-dissolution-of-yugoslavia.html here] ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 20:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)).

::I have made an new input in [[Talk:Yugoslav wars]] regarding the intro. Check there before edit warring. --[[User:Nirvana77|Nirvana77]] ([[User talk:Nirvana77|talk]]) 10:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't thing I have enough time to follow the issue, lately. Take care and regards.--[[User:Dans|Dans]] ([[User talk:Dans|talk]]) 09:13, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== Cvility warning ==


Comments of this kind [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AIllyrians&diff=298231287&oldid=298229706] will not be tolerated. I am reporting you for incivility. --[[User:Athenean|Athenean]] ([[User talk:Athenean|talk]]) 00:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

:You may have guessed, but the user above reported you to [[WP:WQA]]. Feel free to comment on the thread there. That said, certainly there are better ways to get your point across than asking another user "are you retarded." Even if you believe the user is being deliberately frustrating, please avoid using comments like that in the future. As soon as you do, someone reports such comments and you could wind up being on the wrong end of a block. This is just a suggestion by an uninvolved editor, I am making no comment on the content of your discussion, only the use of "retarded". <font color="forestgreen">[[Special:Contributions/Theseeker4|'''The''']]</font>&nbsp;[[User:Theseeker4|<font color="#0000C0">'''Seeker&nbsp;4'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Theseeker4|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">''Talk''</font>]] 00:26, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Personal attacks ==

IIF, personal attacks like "are you retarded"[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AIllyrians&diff=298231287&oldid=298229706] are not acceptable on wikipedia. If you continue, you will be blocked. [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 02:26, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


Do not threaten me. I think you will find that accusing some one of pushing an "Albanian national POV"
'''is a personal attack''' so maybe you should speak to the other user.
Also, please refrain from leaving me messages on my talk page, since I have seen no evidence of anything constructive you have done
on the Illyrian talk page to make it better. All you have done is given leverage to other users to propagate their
pseudo-scientific nonsense. ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 09:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)).

:I will warn you, regardless of your attitude. It is only fair to do so before blocking you. [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 10:24, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you an administrator? ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 10:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)).

:Yes. [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 11:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Good. I don't wish to complain to you about athenienas personal attack on me as this matter is being resolved some where else. But in the future if you may be more diligent in trying to not set double standards. If you check the talk page, you will see the person accused me of pushing an "Albanian national POV" when I only used foreign sources. ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 11:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)).

: Interestedinfairness - the main problem is that although a previous violation of [[WP:NPA]] may ''explain'' your perceived need to retaliate, it can never ''excuse'' retaliation. If you are being subject to personal attacks, please use forums such as [[WP:WQA]] or in extreme circumstances, [[WP:ANI]] - do not resort to retaliatory insults. Just as in sports, it's the retaliator who gets the punishment. ([[User talk:Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→</font>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;[[User:Bwilkins|BWilkins]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">←track</font>]]) 12:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Tim Judah - Kosovo, War and Revenge ==

Interestedinfairness, a e ke idene se ku mundemi me e gjete librin e Tim Judah-s: Kosovo, War and Revenge ne internet qe me perdore si burim per artikullin [[Adem Jashari]]. Nuk po besoj qe citimi ne artikull eshte korrekt.

Edhe nje gje, burimi i BBC-se i perdorur ne artikull eshte perkthim i nje medie lokale serbe e nuk eshte artiull origjinal i BBC-se, e cila paraqet verzionin zyrtar te Ministrise se Puneve te Brenshme te Serbise rreth ngjarjes ne Prekaz, e cila natyrisht e then NPOV. Do te mundohem ta ngris kete qeshtje ne Talk Page tek artikulli, po per momentin jam shum i nxene.

Faleminderit shum, shpresoj qe do ti rregullojme keto "masakara" qe jane bere ne wikipedia rreth artikujve me shqiptare.--[[User:Kedadi|kedadi]] ([[User talk:Kedadi|talk]]) 18:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Kosovo/publicwatchlist qitu] po rrin shume kta pisat edhe jon te organizuar me i ndrru artikullat shpejt. Na falni se shqip nuk di edhe bash mire. Po nejse, as une nuk po besoj qe citimi ne artikull eshte korrekt. E kom ndrru faqjen [[Adem Jashari]], te kqyrem tani qka dojn me ba.
([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 23:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)).

:Well, the Tim Judah-s: Kosovo, War and Revenge source is ok. That quote can be found on the internet. And there are no "masakara", only the truth. Regards, [[User:Tadija|Tadija]] ([[User talk:Tadija|talk]]) 16:40, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==FACTS==
Slobodan Milosevic was never convicted, as you claim. He was indicted, which means that a government organization formally claimed that he committed various crimes, which they failed to prove before he died. Similarly [[Vojislav Seselj]], is indicted (formal accusation, innocent until proven guilty) for crimes, seven hours before the end of trial, the prosecution indicted (formal accusation, innocent until proven guilty) him for another charge.

The most important facts are that in both of the articles, of the said above individuals, there is a sentence describing their indictments. Agim Ceku is indicted (formal accusation, innocent until proven guilty) by Serbia for war crimes and accordingly we should have a sentence in his header as well.[[User:Mike Babic|Mike Babic]] ([[User talk:Mike Babic|talk]]) 01:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The difference is that slobodan was indicted by the UN. Who is serbia to indict a Albanian/Croatian national?
Its political jostling, they will never get him.

== Re ==

Your text seems ok, but I did make a few modifications and copy-edits. How's this? (I can not (and will not) "edit-war for you", as that's also against the 3RR.) --<font face="Eras Bold ITC">[[User:DIREKTOR|<font color="DimGray">DIREKTOR</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<font color="Gray">TALK</font>]])</sup></font> 13:22, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Your recent edits==
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== Re ==

Sorry, I won't be able to participate fully in the Yugoslav wars article, I'm ahving a rather serious debate at [[Talk:Josip Broz Tito]]. I invite you to have a look. --<font face="Eras Bold ITC">[[User:DIREKTOR|<font color="DimGray">DIREKTOR</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<font color="Gray">TALK</font>]])</sup></font> 11:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== New Sources? ==

'''The case for Kosova: passage to independence''' by Anna Di Lellio Publisher Anthem Press, 2006 ISBN 1843312298, 9781843312291 208 pages
Here a link [http://books.google.com/books?id=aNEW0jtOjK8C&lpg=PA74&dq=albanian%20partisan&as_brr=3&pg=PA109] Hope it is useful [[User:Aigest|Aigest]] ([[User talk:Aigest|talk]]) 12:07, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Flm vlla, po duket e mire. [[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 12:40, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

'''Thinking about Yugoslavia: scholarly debates about the Yugoslav breakup and the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo''' by Sabrina P. Ramet Publisher Cambridge University Press, 2005 ISBN 0521851513, 9780521851510 Length 328 pages here the link [http://books.google.com/books?id=PG2Mlbuj_soC&lpg=PA206&dq=Serb%20myth%20migration%201690&lr=&as_brr=3&pg=PA206] [[User:Aigest|Aigest]] ([[User talk:Aigest|talk]]) 13:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

'''Heavenly Serbia: From Myth to Genocide''' by Branimir Anzulovic Publisher C. Hurst & Co. Publishers, 1999 ISBN 1850655308, 9781850655305 Length 233 pages Here the link [http://books.google.com/books?id=sKruK6G5kT4C&lpg=PA70&dq=migration%201690&lr=&as_brr=3&pg=PA39] [[User:Aigest|Aigest]] ([[User talk:Aigest|talk]]) 14:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== WP:ANI again ==

[[Image:Balkan topo en.jpg|30px]] In a 2007 [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Macedonia#Discretionary_sanctions|arbitration case]], administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user editing [[Balkans]]-related articles in a disruptive way. If you {{#if: | continue with the behaviour on [[:]]| engage in further inappropriate behaviour in this area}}, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-balkans2-->

: And if you don't mind, per [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Topic_ban_anew]], could you explain your choice to continue edit-warring at [[Adem Jashari]] again? -- [[User:Ricky81682|Ricky81682]] ([[User talk:Ricky81682|talk]]) 22:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Your "neutrality" tag on Slavic peoples article ==

Hi! You recently posted a "neutrality" tag on the [[Slavic peoples]] article. This tag is intended to prompt discussion among interested editors to resolve any concerns about neutrality, so I've started a discussion at [[Talk:Slavic_peoples#Neutrality_tag]]. Please could you join the discussion and help us to make any necessary improvements to the article so that the tag can be removed. Many thanks -- [[User:Timberframe|Timberframe]] ([[User talk:Timberframe|talk]]) 13:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

== + ==
Unless you want Serbs to start editing the articles on Albania, stopped being disruptive on the article [[Serbia]]. There is an unwritten rule, here on Wikipedia, Albanian's don't vandalize Serbian articles, and Serbs don't vandalized Albanian articles.[[User:Rex Dominator|Rex Dominator]] ([[User talk:Rex Dominator|talk]]) 00:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Zdravo komsho :-D -- don't tell me what to do. You got a problem with my edits, type it on the talk page. ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 06:30, 15 July 2009 (UTC)).

:How about no one vandalizes ANY articles? That rule isn't unspoken; in fact, it's [[WP:VANDAL|Here]]. Edits to a page by someone you don't agree with aren't always vandalism. Serbs and Albanians can certainly work ''together'' to improve articles. Not everyone is as focused on POV-pushing as you may think. If you are truly on the right side of a debate, the FACTS presented in an article will reflect that. If you're not... well, maybe you need to re-evaluate your position, rather than lie to people.

:And that goes for BOTH of you. --<font color="#330033">[[User:Kingoomieiii|King ♣]] <font color="#ff6600"><small><small>[[User talk:Kingoomieiii|Talk]]</small></small></font></font> 12:59, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

== Ban proposal ==

I'm sorry to inform you that I (re)opened a discussion on your behavior on [[WP:AN#(Topic) ban of Interestedinfairness]]. Feel free to defend yourself on that page. [[User:No such user|No such user]] ([[User talk:No such user|talk]]) 08:00, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Well done!!! ([[User:Interestedinfairness|Interestedinfairness]] ([[User talk:Interestedinfairness#top|talk]]) 08:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)).

== 7/15/09 ==

{{Tb|Kingoomieiii|Hey}}

Is my talk page on your watchlist now? In the interest of not needing to add more Talkback templates --<font color="#330033">[[User:Kingoomieiii|King ♣]] <font color="#ff6600"><small><small>[[User talk:Kingoomieiii|Talk]]</small></small></font></font> 02:03, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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