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* '''[[:Timeline of Twitter]]''' – '''G11 speedy deletions overturned.''' The articles can be nominated at AfD by anyone inclined to do so. I am only restoring the articles mentioned in the review request because only they were the subject of substantial discussion here. – <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Sandstein '''</span>]]</span></small> 13:26, 28 March 2017 (UTC) <!--*--> |
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Also see [[Timeline of Facebook]], [[Timeline of Instagram]], [[Timeline of Pinterest]], [[Timeline of Snapchat]], [[Timeline of LinkedIn]]. These are all improper applications of CSD by {{u|JzG}}, because CSD is meant for ''unambiguous'' cases. At least two admins {{u|Anachronist}} and {{u|DGG}} have already informed {{u|JzG}} that the material is not unambiguously promotion and the application of G11 was improper, but they refused to undelete and asked me to take it to DRV. CSD is not meant as a tool to bypass consensus; it would be fine to list these articles at [[WP:AfD|AfD]] if so desired. See also the recently closed CSD [[Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2017_March_9|here]] for [[Givewell]], which was also CSD'ed by {{u|JzG}}. There is already a section on [[WP:COIN]] which deals with many similar articles. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 12:42, 18 March 2017 (UTC) |
Also see [[Timeline of Facebook]], [[Timeline of Instagram]], [[Timeline of Pinterest]], [[Timeline of Snapchat]], [[Timeline of LinkedIn]]. These are all improper applications of CSD by {{u|JzG}}, because CSD is meant for ''unambiguous'' cases. At least two admins {{u|Anachronist}} and {{u|DGG}} have already informed {{u|JzG}} that the material is not unambiguously promotion and the application of G11 was improper, but they refused to undelete and asked me to take it to DRV. CSD is not meant as a tool to bypass consensus; it would be fine to list these articles at [[WP:AfD|AfD]] if so desired. See also the recently closed CSD [[Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2017_March_9|here]] for [[Givewell]], which was also CSD'ed by {{u|JzG}}. There is already a section on [[WP:COIN]] which deals with many similar articles. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 12:42, 18 March 2017 (UTC) |
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*'''Send to AFD'''. Not obviously advertising or promotional. And list them all separately because I can see the Twitter one being more notable than, say, Pinterest. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 11:50, 20 March 2017 (UTC) |
*'''Send to AFD'''. Not obviously advertising or promotional. And list them all separately because I can see the Twitter one being more notable than, say, Pinterest. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 11:50, 20 March 2017 (UTC) |
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*Related AfD: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of Amazon.com]]. [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 07:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC) |
*Related AfD: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of Amazon.com]]. [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 07:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC) |
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*'''Restore''' the articles and initiate '''AfD''' discussions if desired to obtain a broader community consensus. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|< |
*'''Restore''' the articles and initiate '''AfD''' discussions if desired to obtain a broader community consensus. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size:x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 07:19, 21 March 2017 (UTC) |
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*'''Restore''' and make it absolutely clear that G11 does not care about the ''purpose'' of or ''payment'' for promotional articles, and that it is NOT to be used as a weapon to fight paid editing battles. In a nutshell G11 is not G5, which is the ONLY CSD criterion which functions based on the status of the editor who created the article. [[User:Jclemens|Jclemens]] ([[User talk:Jclemens|talk]]) 06:10, 23 March 2017 (UTC) |
*'''Restore''' and make it absolutely clear that G11 does not care about the ''purpose'' of or ''payment'' for promotional articles, and that it is NOT to be used as a weapon to fight paid editing battles. In a nutshell G11 is not G5, which is the ONLY CSD criterion which functions based on the status of the editor who created the article. [[User:Jclemens|Jclemens]] ([[User talk:Jclemens|talk]]) 06:10, 23 March 2017 (UTC) |
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:::It's not a ''reason'' by itself for speedy, but it can assist as an indication for identifying promotional articles--as over 90% of such articles are in fact promotional in content. . I ageee if it is not clearly G11 without it, it needs AfD. I would also favor introducing such a speedy criterion, except for that 10% or so of false positives, such as this one. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 17:20, 23 March 2017 (UTC) |
:::It's not a ''reason'' by itself for speedy, but it can assist as an indication for identifying promotional articles--as over 90% of such articles are in fact promotional in content. . I ageee if it is not clearly G11 without it, it needs AfD. I would also favor introducing such a speedy criterion, except for that 10% or so of false positives, such as this one. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 17:20, 23 March 2017 (UTC) |
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<ul><li>'''Comment:'''<br><br>These pages were listed in the |
<ul><li>'''Comment:'''<br><br>These pages were listed in the DRV nomination:<br><br> |
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# {{DRV links|Timeline of Twitter|xfd_page=|article=}} |
# {{DRV links|Timeline of Twitter|xfd_page=|article=}} |
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# {{DRV links|Timeline of Facebook|xfd_page=|article=}} |
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# {{DRV links|Timeline of Airbnb|xfd_page=|article=}} |
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# {{DRV links|Timeline of online advertising|xfd_page=|article=}} |
# {{DRV links|Timeline of online advertising|xfd_page=|article=}} |
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<br><br>I recommend restoring the timeline pages not listed in the |
<br><br>I recommend restoring the timeline pages not listed in the DRV nomination because the consensus above applies to them even if they were not listed here.<br><br> |
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These redirects to the timeline pages should be restored if the timeline pages are restored:<br><br> |
These redirects to the timeline pages should be restored if the timeline pages are restored:<br><br> |
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# {{DRV links|User:Simfish/Timeline of LinkedIn|xfd_page=|article=}} |
# {{DRV links|User:Simfish/Timeline of LinkedIn|xfd_page=|article=}} |
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# {{DRV links|Talk:Timeline of online advertising|xfd_page=|article=}} |
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<br><br>[[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 07:10, 25 March 2017 (UTC)</li></ul> |
<br><br>[[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 07:10, 25 March 2017 (UTC)</li></ul> |
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*'''restore all''' and list at AfD as desired. I just don't see the two I've looked at as clearly promotional. Might well be some kind of SEO thing going on, but I've not seen any meaningful evidence of that either. [[User:Hobit|Hobit]] ([[User talk:Hobit|talk]]) 13:51, 26 March 2017 (UTC) |
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
Also see Timeline of Facebook, Timeline of Instagram, Timeline of Pinterest, Timeline of Snapchat, Timeline of LinkedIn. These are all improper applications of CSD by JzG, because CSD is meant for unambiguous cases. At least two admins Anachronist and DGG have already informed JzG that the material is not unambiguously promotion and the application of G11 was improper, but they refused to undelete and asked me to take it to DRV. CSD is not meant as a tool to bypass consensus; it would be fine to list these articles at AfD if so desired. See also the recently closed CSD here for Givewell, which was also CSD'ed by JzG. There is already a section on WP:COIN which deals with many similar articles. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 12:42, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |