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File:Seeking a Deep Feeling inside cover.jpg

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File:Seeking a Deep Feeling inside cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Thegentlemanburglar (notify | contribs).

UE; what is this useful for? If it is the cover of something (which I doubt), then it also isn't self-made. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:45, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What is the image even of? A piano and a toy soldier? No permission = delete. Cheers, —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 03:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I've tagged the file as not having a license.--Rockfang (talk) 22:19, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Visit the cities.png

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File:Visit the cities.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ömerulusoy (notify | contribs).

orphaned, target article/encyc use unclear Skier Dude (talk) 05:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I've tagged the file as having no license.--Rockfang (talk) 22:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Hugh Lockwood.jpg

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File:Hugh Lockwood.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Dreadstar (notify | contribs).

Non-free image overuse: duplicating another image showing the same actors/roles in Probe (1972 TV pilot); was also part of a non-free images gallery Search (TV series). No analytical commentary on any of these images in either article; no meaningful FUR, only a vacuous dummy phrase "use in article about the show". Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:32, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:HughBCave.GIF

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File:HughBCave.GIF (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by HughBFan (notify | contribs).

Hidden Image: This is an animated gif, after a short time another image appears which is an odd collage of what appears to be spelunking, Hugh B. Cave himself and a speach bubble with the word "Patent." While this does not necessarily seem to be a copyright violation, it is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. I added a comment to the talk page but shortly afterwards decided that a deletion request was probably more appropriate. AdamBMorgan (talk) 19:26, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:1letter maria.jpg

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File:1letter maria.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Giovannii84 (notify | contribs).

No source, no use in article as Roly Daniels isn't mentioned in the article and doesn't seem to warrant a mention (his cover never charted, there're very few sources on him, etc.). Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I've tagged this file as orphaned.--Rockfang (talk) 22:37, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Kamma People.jpg

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File:Kamma People.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Fort5000 (notify | contribs).

Inadequate source information. PhilKnight (talk) 22:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Westwing situation room.jpg

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File:Westwing situation room.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Scm83x (notify | contribs).

purely decorative screenshot, excessive use of non-free images Ejfetters (talk) 23:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Jedbartlet.jpg

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File:Jedbartlet.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Melesse (notify | contribs).

image is from unknown origin, copyright unclear, purpose unclear. entire work is used (likely publicity photo) where a screenshot is less infringing as it is only a partial image from a larger work. replace with screenshot, as done with several shows, i.e. Star Trek Ejfetters (talk) 23:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - a publicity photo, intended for wide release, is less infringing? —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 02:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The publicity photo is more infringing. The intent is unknown. A complete work is more infringing than a miniscule portion of the work, yes. 74.204.40.46 (talk) 05:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Martin Sheen's appearance as Josiah Bartlet is really no different than his appearance outside the role. This image can be replaced by File:Sheen, Martin (2008).jpg or this one, which shows him on set of the series. See also Wikipedia:NFC#Non-free_image_use_in_list_articles #5, which while this is not a list shows an important point supporting WP:NFCC #1; we have a free equivalent that serves the same purpose. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That guidance is specifically about which images to prioritise in lists. It is accepted that images of actors out of character are not a substitute for in-character representations of that character in articles solely devoted to the particular character. Jheald (talk) 16:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I noted in my post, this image is in character. Also, even if the person is not explicitly in character, if their visual appearance is essentially the same, then WP:NFCC #1 applies. It is policy. You can see examples of this being done correctly at List_of_Stargate_SG-1_characters#Hank_Landry and List_of_recurring_Earth_characters_in_Stargate_SG-1 (entire article). List_of_James_Bond_henchmen_in_Die_Another_Day#Zao shows a case where the in character appearance is dramatically different. Compare [1] and [2]. We do not need a fair use image to show what Martin Sheen looks like with his hair combed and in a business suit. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:02, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- As stated before, screencaps are less infringing. Rememeber this image has 1 - no source, 2 - is of unknown origin (even if someone searches google images do we know who holds the copyright?) 3 - the purpose can be speculated but we can't be sure without evidence that its use here is permissable. Shows such as Star Trek (TNG, DS9 etc.) has mass nominations for its publicity images and the outcome was that the screencaps are less infringing because there are a miniscule portion of the entire work (one frame from an episode with thousands of frames) and the publicity image is the entire work. How would the arguments made for the numerous Star Trek publicity images be any different from The West Wing publicity images? Ejfetters (talk) 06:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 *UE; what is this useful for? If it is the cover of something (which I doubt), then it also isn't self-made. –[[User:Drilnoth|Drilnoth]] ([[User talk:Drilnoth|T]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Drilnoth|C]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Log/Drilnoth|L]]) 01:45, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
+*What is the image even of? A piano and a toy soldier? No permission = '''delete'''. Cheers, —<span style="font-family:Baskerville Old Face;">[[User:the_ed17|<span style="color:#800000;">Ed</span>]]&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:the_ed17|<span style="color:#800000;">(Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/the_ed17|<span style="color:#800000;">Contribs)</span>]]</small></span> 03:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' - I've tagged the file as not having a license.--[[User:Rockfang|Rockfang]] ([[User talk:Rockfang|talk]]) 22:19, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
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+*'''Comment''' - I've tagged the file as having no license.--[[User:Rockfang|Rockfang]] ([[User talk:Rockfang|talk]]) 22:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
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 *Non-free image overuse: duplicating another image showing the same actors/roles in [[Probe (1972 TV pilot)]]; was also part of a non-free images gallery [[Search (TV series)]]. No analytical commentary on any of these images in either article; no meaningful FUR, only a vacuous dummy phrase "use in article about the show". [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 07:32, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
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 *'''Hidden Image''': This is an animated gif, after a short time another image appears which is an odd collage of what appears to be spelunking, Hugh B. Cave himself and a speach bubble with the word "Patent." While this does not necessarily seem to be a copyright violation, it is not appropriate for an encyclopedia.  I added a comment to the talk page but shortly afterwards decided that a deletion request was probably more appropriate. [[User:AdamBMorgan|AdamBMorgan]] ([[User talk:AdamBMorgan|talk]]) 19:26, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
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 *No source, no use in article as Roly Daniels isn't mentioned in the article and doesn't seem to warrant a mention (his cover never charted, there're very few sources on him, etc.). <span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>, his otters and a clue-bat • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Many otters]] • [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|One bat]] • [[User:TenPoundHammer|One hammer]])</sup> 20:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' - I've tagged this file as orphaned.--[[User:Rockfang|Rockfang]] ([[User talk:Rockfang|talk]]) 22:37, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
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+*Inadequate source information. [[User:PhilKnight|PhilKnight]] ([[User talk:PhilKnight|talk]]) 22:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
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+:<span class="plainlinksneverexpand lx">[[:File:{{ucfirst:Westwing situation room.jpg}}]] ([{{fullurl:File:Westwing situation room.jpg|action=delete&wpReason={{urlencode:[[Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 August 2#File:Westwing situation room.jpg]]}}}} delete] | [[File talk:{{ucfirst:Westwing situation room.jpg}}|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:{{ucfirst:Westwing situation room.jpg}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode:File:{{ucfirst:Westwing situation room.jpg}}}}}} logs])</span> - uploaded by [[User talk:Scm83x#File:Westwing situation room.jpg listed for deletion|Scm83x]] (<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:User_talk:Scm83x|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro&section=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify]</span> | [[Special:Contributions/Scm83x|contribs]]).
+*purely decorative screenshot, excessive use of non-free images [[User:Ejfetters|Ejfetters]] ([[User talk:Ejfetters|talk]]) 23:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
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+====[[:File:Jedbartlet.jpg]]====
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+:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span>  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]).  No further edits should be made to this section. ''
+The result of the discussion was: '''Delete'''; deleted by {{admin|B}} [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#888800;">⚡</span>]] 00:00, 15 August 2009 (UTC)<!--Template:Ffd top-->
+:<span class="plainlinksneverexpand lx">[[:File:{{ucfirst:Jedbartlet.jpg}}]] ([{{fullurl:File:Jedbartlet.jpg|action=delete&wpReason={{urlencode:[[Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 August 2#File:Jedbartlet.jpg]]}}}} delete] | [[File talk:{{ucfirst:Jedbartlet.jpg}}|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:{{ucfirst:Jedbartlet.jpg}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode:File:{{ucfirst:Jedbartlet.jpg}}}}}} logs])</span> - uploaded by [[User talk:Melesse#File:Jedbartlet.jpg listed for deletion|Melesse]] (<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:User_talk:Melesse|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro&section=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify]</span> | [[Special:Contributions/Melesse|contribs]]).
+*image is from unknown origin, copyright unclear, purpose unclear.  entire work is used (likely publicity photo) where a screenshot is less infringing as it is only a partial image from a larger work.  replace with screenshot, as done with several shows, i.e. Star Trek [[User:Ejfetters|Ejfetters]] ([[User talk:Ejfetters|talk]]) 23:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' - a publicity photo, intended for wide release, is less infringing? —<span style="font-family:Baskerville Old Face;">[[User:the_ed17|<span style="color:#800000;">Ed</span>]]&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:the_ed17|<span style="color:#800000;">(Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/the_ed17|<span style="color:#800000;">Contribs)</span>]]</small></span> 02:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
+**The publicity photo is more infringing.  The intent is unknown.  A complete work is more infringing than a miniscule portion of the work, yes. [[Special:Contributions/74.204.40.46|74.204.40.46]] ([[User talk:74.204.40.46|talk]]) 05:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' Martin Sheen's appearance as Josiah Bartlet is really no different than his appearance outside the role. This image can be replaced by [[:File:Sheen, Martin (2008).jpg]] or [[:File:Martinsheennavy.jpg|this one, which shows him on set of the series]]. See also [[Wikipedia:NFC#Non-free_image_use_in_list_articles]] #5, which while this is not a list shows an important point supporting [[WP:NFCC]] #1; we have a free equivalent that serves the same purpose. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft|talk]]) 15:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
+::That guidance is specifically about which images to prioritise in lists.  It is accepted that images of actors out of character are ''not'' a substitute for in-character representations of that character in articles solely devoted to the particular character. [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|talk]]) 16:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
+::*As I noted in my post, [[:File:Martinsheennavy.jpg|this image]] is in character. Also, even if the person is not explicitly in character, if their visual appearance is essentially the same, then [[WP:NFCC]] #1 applies. It is policy. You can see examples of this being done correctly at [[List_of_Stargate_SG-1_characters#Hank_Landry]] and [[List_of_recurring_Earth_characters_in_Stargate_SG-1]] (entire article). [[List_of_James_Bond_henchmen_in_Die_Another_Day#Zao]] shows a case where the in character appearance is dramatically different. Compare [http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Zao_by_Rick_Yune.jpg] and [http:/upwiki/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Rickyune.jpg]. We do not need a fair use image to show what Martin Sheen looks like with his hair combed and in a business suit. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft|talk]]) 18:02, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
+**As stated before, screencaps are less infringing.  Rememeber this image has 1 - no source, 2 - is of unknown origin (even if someone searches google images do we know who holds the copyright?) 3 - the purpose can be speculated but we can't be sure without evidence that its use here is permissable.  Shows such as Star Trek (TNG, DS9 etc.) has mass nominations for its publicity images and the outcome was that the screencaps are less infringing because there are a miniscule portion of the entire work (one frame from an episode with thousands of frames) and the publicity image is the entire work.  How would the arguments made for the numerous Star Trek publicity images be any different from The West Wing publicity images? [[User:Ejfetters|Ejfetters]] ([[User talk:Ejfetters|talk]]) 06:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
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