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The result was '''no consensus'''. [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 00:56, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
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[[User:Cunibertus|Cunibertus]] ([[User talk:Cunibertus|talk]]) 20:19, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
[[User:Cunibertus|Cunibertus]] ([[User talk:Cunibertus|talk]]) 20:19, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - article needs editing, but he would appear to qualify as [[WP:SOLDIER]] based on his being awarded the gold and bronze [[Medal of Military Valor]]. Article from 1939: [http://www.jta.org/1939/12/01/archive/young-italian-jewish-army-officer-wins-rare-award-for-bravery "Young Italian Jewish Army Officer Wins Rare Award for Bravery"]) [https://books.google.com/books?id=O9RTUdIrWCsC&pg=PA189&lpg=PA189] Also described here as a Jewish war hero.[https://books.google.com/books?id=1hW219ey4CwC&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69] No doubt additional Italian sources exist. [[User:Wikimandia|<font color="#0066cc">—'''''Мандичка'''''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Wikimandia|<font color="#6600cc">'''''YO'''''</font>]]</sup> 😜 21:12, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - article needs editing, but he would appear to qualify as [[WP:SOLDIER]] based on his being awarded the gold and bronze [[Medal of Military Valor]]. Article from 1939: [http://www.jta.org/1939/12/01/archive/young-italian-jewish-army-officer-wins-rare-award-for-bravery "Young Italian Jewish Army Officer Wins Rare Award for Bravery"]) [https://books.google.com/books?id=O9RTUdIrWCsC&pg=PA189&lpg=PA189] Also described here as a Jewish war hero.[https://books.google.com/books?id=1hW219ey4CwC&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69] No doubt additional Italian sources exist. [[User:Wikimandia|<span style="color:#0066cc;">—'''''Мандичка'''''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Wikimandia|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''YO'''''</span>]]</sup> 😜 21:12, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''', don't see lasting notability here; [[WP:Memorial]] applies. [[User:Kierzek|Kierzek]] ([[User talk:Kierzek|talk]]) 01:03, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', don't see lasting notability here; [[WP:Memorial]] applies. [[User:Kierzek|Kierzek]] ([[User talk:Kierzek|talk]]) 01:03, 11 December 2016 (UTC)


*Tentative '''keep''' -- here's a 1938 ''American'' publication describing how Mussolini was to present the award to the subject of the article: [https://books.google.com/books?id=OGzxAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA92-IA16&dq=%22Bruno+Jesi%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhmKuu5_fQAhXiylQKHTC6Do0Q6AEISjAH#v=onepage&q=%22Bruno%20Jesi%22&f=false ''The Jewish Veteran'']. This seems rather remarkable and I wonder if better sources exist. [[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 03:53, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
*Tentative '''keep''' -- here's a 1938 ''American'' publication describing how Mussolini was to present the award to the subject of the article: [https://books.google.com/books?id=OGzxAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA92-IA16&dq=%22Bruno+Jesi%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhmKuu5_fQAhXiylQKHTC6Do0Q6AEISjAH#v=onepage&q=%22Bruno%20Jesi%22&f=false ''The Jewish Veteran'']. This seems rather remarkable and I wonder if better sources exist. [[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 03:53, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Keep''': the article definitely could be improved, but I believe based on a couple of the sources provided by K.e. Coffman, Wikimandia and Cunibertus that on the face of it there appears to be [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]]. If this is later shown not to be the case, then the topic can be reconsidered at a later AfD if necessary. Regards, [[User:AustralianRupert|AustralianRupert]] ([[User talk:AustralianRupert|talk]]) 03:08, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 00:56, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Appears to be translation of it:Bruno Jesi without new information or references/cites. That page is tagged as an orphan and its only references are to a Youtube video and a thesis or dissertation. [1] Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:37, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Last time I checked Mursia is a long time established publishing house, http://www.mursia.com/index.php/it/

the author an historian by profession (a military historian accreditated to the Historical Office of the italian Armed Forces more precisely, with books published by the armed forces own publishing house) and a jew by religion

http://www.giovannicecini.it/

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Cecini

ops ... sorry I know you do not believe in articles published on wikipedia

but

the book is also partially of public domain and if you type "Bruno Jesi" you will have on screen lots of sources, plus assignments and motivations for golden medals are public and published on the web pages of the italian armed forces and parliament

or on the website of the Presidency of the italian Republic

http://www.quirinale.it/elementi/DettaglioOnorificenze.aspx?decorato=13918

or on the Hebrew Archive

http://www.archivioterracini.it/archive/list_t.php?id=251

and if you want you can buy the book https://books.google.it/books/about/I_soldati_ebrei_di_Mussolini.html?id=M6ZtAAAAMAAJ&source=kp_cover&redir_esc=y and read it

it costs around 20 british pounds

but I would also suggest you to buy the book "History of the italian jews"

https://books.google.it/books?id=kMb_CAAAQBAJ&pg=PT685&lpg=PT685&dq=bruno+jesi+medaglia+d%27oro&source=bl&ots=rrNc2VJ1Xq&sig=I3i-6bel6gsppJNzSMFlUn5wc-k&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjMrIGSqdbQAhVFnBoKHaphCa4Q6AEIOjAF#v=onepage&q=bruno%20jesi%20medaglia%20d%27oro&f=false

next question ?

regards Cunibertus (talk) 20:19, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: the article definitely could be improved, but I believe based on a couple of the sources provided by K.e. Coffman, Wikimandia and Cunibertus that on the face of it there appears to be significant coverage. If this is later shown not to be the case, then the topic can be reconsidered at a later AfD if necessary. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 03:08, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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