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:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page.'' |
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The result was '''delete'''. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten|talk]]) 04:02, 28 August 2012 (UTC) |
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===[[Fucking shit]]=== |
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:{{la|Fucking shit}} – (<includeonly>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fucking shit|View AfD]]</includeonly><noinclude>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2012 August 21#{{anchorencode:Fucking shit}}|View log]]</noinclude>{{•}} <span class="plainlinks">[http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/cgi-bin/votecounter.cgi?page=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Fucking_shit Stats]</span>) |
:{{la|Fucking shit}} – (<includeonly>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fucking shit|View AfD]]</includeonly><noinclude>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2012 August 21#{{anchorencode:Fucking shit}}|View log]]</noinclude>{{•}} <span class="plainlinks">[http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/cgi-bin/votecounter.cgi?page=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Fucking_shit Stats]</span>) |
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Wikipedia is not a dictionary, see [[WP:NOTDIC]]. No hope for this ever becoming encyclopedic. Currently labelled as a dab page, but is disambiguating zero items (the two "see alsos" are not valid links, as they are not ambiguous with the title). [[User:France3470|< |
Wikipedia is not a dictionary, see [[WP:NOTDIC]]. No hope for this ever becoming encyclopedic. Currently labelled as a dab page, but is disambiguating zero items (the two "see alsos" are not valid links, as they are not ambiguous with the title). [[User:France3470|<span style="font-family:Georgia;">'''France'''<span style="color:#1B3F8B;">''3470''</span></span>]] [[User talk:France3470|(<span style="font-size:small;">''talk''</span>)]] 22:35, 21 August 2012 (UTC) |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Language|list of Language-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>[[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 23:31, 21 August 2012 (UTC)</small> |
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Language|list of Language-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>[[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 23:31, 21 August 2012 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Disambiguations|list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>[[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 23:32, 21 August 2012 (UTC)</small> |
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Disambiguations|list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>[[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 23:32, 21 August 2012 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Comment''' I just declined a speedy placed on the article as "G6, routine housekeeping. This is not a disam page." Without any comment on the merits of the afd, this is not an acceptable use of speedy. It is true that this is not a disam p, but the solution to that --''if'' the article were otherwise acceptable -- would be to remove the category label. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 02:28, 22 August 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Comment''' I just declined a speedy placed on the article as "G6, routine housekeeping. This is not a disam page." Without any comment on the merits of the afd, this is not an acceptable use of speedy. It is true that this is not a disam p, but the solution to that --''if'' the article were otherwise acceptable -- would be to remove the category label. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 02:28, 22 August 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' Actually when I created it, it was a disambiguation page with 5 items. Another colleague intervened deleting all the disambiguation items, but keeping the disambiguation tag... Thus the discrepancy. Here were the disambiguation items before being taken out: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Fucking_shit&diff=504981814&oldid=504981528 I can understand why some people are touchy about what they consider an offensive term, thus trying to delete such pages, but "fucking shit" is not only one of the most commonly used terms people use, but is also used in for example titles of songs released, books written, thus the need to keep the term not as a dictionary term, but as a disambiguation by re-establishing the disambiguation items as I have restored them. [[User:Werldwayd|werldwayd]] ([[User talk:Werldwayd|talk]]) 05:57, 22 August 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' Actually when I created it, it was a disambiguation page with 5 items. Another colleague intervened deleting all the disambiguation items, but keeping the disambiguation tag... Thus the discrepancy. Here were the disambiguation items before being taken out: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Fucking_shit&diff=504981814&oldid=504981528 I can understand why some people are touchy about what they consider an offensive term, thus trying to delete such pages, but "fucking shit" is not only one of the most commonly used terms people use, but is also used in for example titles of songs released, books written, thus the need to keep the term not as a dictionary term, but as a disambiguation by re-establishing the disambiguation items as I have restored them. [[User:Werldwayd|werldwayd]] ([[User talk:Werldwayd|talk]]) 05:57, 22 August 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' Even with the additions, everything on the page is a [[WP:PTM|partial title match]]. <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 06:29, 22 August 2012 (UTC) |
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* '''Delete''' unless it's transformed from a [[WP:DICDEF]]/[[WP:PTM]] violation into an article. It being offensive is not a problem, the problem is that it's not its own concept. [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22fucking+shit%22&tbm=bks&tbo=1&pws=0 Book search] shows typical use (that can be covered by a dictionary entry), no coverage of the term itself. --[[User:Joy|Joy [shallot]]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 10:57, 22 August 2012 (UTC) |
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* '''Delete''': no appropriate content beyond the sum of the two words. [[User:PamD|<span style="color:green;">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color:brown;">'''''D'''''</span>]] 11:50, 22 August 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' Fails as a subject entry because it's just a combination of two swearwords (compare [[bloody hell]] which isn't notable either), fails as disambiguation because there's nothing called "fucking shit" to be disambiguated - it's all partial matches. --[[User:Colapeninsula|Colapeninsula]] ([[User talk:Colapeninsula|talk]]) 14:19, 22 August 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' As per[[WP:NOTDIC]] [[User:Hillabear10|Hillabear10]] ([[User talk:Hillabear10|talk]]) 17:04, 23 August 2012 (UTC) |
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*No opinion either way, but I can't believe we're arguing about this fucking shit. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 00:41, 24 August 2012 (UTC) |
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::Well I guess Wikipedia is the place for practically anything under the sun. Fucking shit being one of the most used terms has a place in Wikipedia despite what everybody above thinks. You can delete it today and a concensus has been formed I suppose to do exactly that. But I'm an optimist. The day will come, quite soon hopefully, when we have enough Fucking shit books, albums, songs, even worldwide brands I dare say (should I register the rights myself before they are taken? FCUK anyone?) to justify the presence of this truly practical term that applies to ... oh so many people I know and doubtlessly you know as well... There are tens of songs that have titles like f***ing sh*t, yet they don't have the guts to print the full fucking title... Incidentally what a shame the domain name http://fuckingshit.com/ is taken but yet does not have enough valuable content on the site. The owner is sitting on gold shit and doesn't realise it BTW, I will be keeping it on my active agenda for later revival on Wikipedia with more valid entries. LOL [[User:Werldwayd|werldwayd]] ([[User talk:Werldwayd|talk]]) 03:03, 24 August 2012 (UTC) |
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:::It's not that the listing of similarities doesn't have value. It might be welcomed on [http://everything2.com/ everything2] or [[WP:OUTLETDIR|other places]]. The problem is that it doesn't fit into any of the criteria that wikipedia has for 1) "an article" or 2) "a list" or 3) "a disambiguation page" (disambig pages are only meant to list ''exact title matches'', ie we don't have a disambig page for every song/book/movie/etc with the word "green" somewhere in the title... See [[green (disambiguation)]] for example. Things are only listed when the title is ''just'' "green". (simplified. 10 years of figuring out what works, and discussing "edge-cases" = [[Template:Dabnav|disambig details]])). |
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:::If you do make a page at everything2, or one of the other places, be sure to do more [http://www.allmusic.com/search/songs/fucking+shit searching first]; you missed [http://www.discogs.com/search?q=%22fucking+shit%22&type=all quite a few] ;) -- [[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] ([[User talk:Quiddity|talk]]) 07:19, 24 August 2012 (UTC) |
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::Some mighty fine work you're doing here, Newyorkbrad. --[[User:KlickitatGlacier|KlickitatGlacier]] ([[User talk:KlickitatGlacier|talk]]) 08:03, 24 August 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' - Dictionary / slang definition. [[User:Shadowjams|Shadowjams]] ([[User talk:Shadowjams|talk]]) 01:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC) |
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