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The result was '''keep'''. (Non-admin closure)--[[User:Antigng|Antigng]] ([[User talk:Antigng|talk]]) 08:37, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
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Main notability would come from being a co-founder of [[War on Want]], person not found in article nor in history section of website. [[WP:BIO]] not met. [[User:Loriendrew|<font color="#005000">&#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;</font>]] [[User talk:Loriendrew|<font color="#000080">&#9743;''(ring-ring)''</font>]] 13:04, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
Main notability would come from being a co-founder of [[War on Want]], person not found in article nor in history section of website. [[WP:BIO]] not met. [[User:Loriendrew|<span style="color:#005000;">&#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;</span>]] [[User talk:Loriendrew|<span style="color:#000080;">&#9743;''(ring-ring)''</span>]] 13:04, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/China|list of China-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 16:20, 2 June 2015 (UTC)</small>
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*This, from the archive that has some of her papers, a brief bio [http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/library/special/gell]. She is listed in old medical registers, and as a Japanese POW during WWII. That's all I have found. Early-ish woman medical graduate. Medical missionary in China. POW. It's certainly not a vanity article. [[User:Loriendrew]], What so you tunk? Given [[Wikipedia:Does deletion help]], should we add the material form the archive to the book now on the page and leave it up?[[User:E.M.Gregory|E.M.Gregory]] ([[User talk:E.M.Gregory|talk]]) 21:43, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
::The original author is nor blocked due to spam/advert (mass creation of one-line articles). I'm not convinced [[WP:GNG]]/[[WP:BIO]] is met if you remove the unverifiable notability claim given the sources provided.--[[User:Loriendrew|<span style="color:#005000;">&#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;</span>]] [[User talk:Loriendrew|<span style="color:#000080;">&#9743;''(ring-ring)''</span>]] 00:14, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' I've cleaned it up a bit, and [[War on Want]] is a hugely significant charity. --[[User:The Vintage Feminist|The Vintage Feminist]] ([[User talk:The Vintage Feminist|talk]]) 21:47, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Keep''' -- The one reliable source we have is a biography related to a deposit of her papers at Sheffield University. That source indicates that she was an associate professor at a Chinese univeristy hospital, not Sheffield University. However the fact that Sheffield thinks it worth accepting a deposit of a box of her papers suggests some notability to me. The connection to [[War on Want]] is tagged as dubious, apparently because the brief history of it on the charity's own website does not mention that. It names [[Victor Gollancz]] the publisher as its founder or initiator. However, it seems unlikely that he would have had the time to devote to the hard day-to-day work of establishing the charity. I also note that War on Want's website conveniently ignores the fact that (if I remember correctly) at one point the charity went into liquidation, as a result of having anticipated its income through borrowings. Possibly my memory is wrong. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 16:15, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (Non-admin closure)--Antigng (talk) 08:37, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Main notability would come from being a co-founder of War on Want, person not found in article nor in history section of website. WP:BIO not met. ☾Loriendrew☽ (ring-ring) 13:04, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:20, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:20, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:20, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:20, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • This, from the archive that has some of her papers, a brief bio [1]. She is listed in old medical registers, and as a Japanese POW during WWII. That's all I have found. Early-ish woman medical graduate. Medical missionary in China. POW. It's certainly not a vanity article. User:Loriendrew, What so you tunk? Given Wikipedia:Does deletion help, should we add the material form the archive to the book now on the page and leave it up?E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:43, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The original author is nor blocked due to spam/advert (mass creation of one-line articles). I'm not convinced WP:GNG/WP:BIO is met if you remove the unverifiable notability claim given the sources provided.--☾Loriendrew☽ (ring-ring) 00:14, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. The Vintage Feminist (talk) 21:47, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -- The one reliable source we have is a biography related to a deposit of her papers at Sheffield University. That source indicates that she was an associate professor at a Chinese univeristy hospital, not Sheffield University. However the fact that Sheffield thinks it worth accepting a deposit of a box of her papers suggests some notability to me. The connection to War on Want is tagged as dubious, apparently because the brief history of it on the charity's own website does not mention that. It names Victor Gollancz the publisher as its founder or initiator. However, it seems unlikely that he would have had the time to devote to the hard day-to-day work of establishing the charity. I also note that War on Want's website conveniently ignores the fact that (if I remember correctly) at one point the charity went into liquidation, as a result of having anticipated its income through borrowings. Possibly my memory is wrong. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:15, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.