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The result was merge to Llanelli Star. Selective merge into his newspaper. (non-admin closure) sst✈^discuss 01:08, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Geoffrey D. Lloyd

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I couldn't establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Has been tagged for notability for over 7 years; hopefully, we can now resolve this. Sending WP:APPNOTE to Jonathan Oldenbuck. Boleyn (talk) 15:17, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, additional results at :(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL. — Cirt (talk) 08:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Cirt, which of those results actually relate to this Geoff Lloyd? Bencherlite ^Talk 12:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, a proper search for additional sources reveals no significant coverage in reliable sources to show that this gentleman meets Wikipedia's standards for inclusion. Bencherlite ^Talk 12:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Lloyd was the President of the Guild of British Newspaper Editors. Per cite:
- "Editors' guild president dies". The Glasgow Herald. 29 December 1986. p. 3 – via Google News Archive.
Hope this information is helpful, — Cirt (talk) 12:35, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep only if this is notable and acceptable. SwisterTwister talk 04:55, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
SwisterTwister, I'm afraid I don't understand your comment. All articles should be kept 'only if this is notable and acceptable.' But is this person WP:NOTABLE, and what convinces you? Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 20:44, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I know the article may not seem like much but any other better sources may not be online so this makes consider keeping, Boleyn. SwisterTwister talk 20:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:54, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The article upon which Cirt relies is one headline and two sentences. It only says this: "Editors' guild president dies. The president of the Guild of British Newspapers, Mr Geoffrey Lloyd, has died. Mr Lloyd, 53, had been suffering from cancer." That's it. That's not significant coverage by any stretch of the imagination. Bencherlite ^Talk 13:08, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —UY Scuti ^Talk 19:06, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I don't think it's been established that being president of this guild means probable notability and current sourcing found isn't good enough. The guild merged to form the "Society of Editors" in 1999 [1] if it's talking about the correct one. Current president doesn't have an article, there's an entry for his name but I don't think it's him. The "Immediate Past President" doesn't have one either. Rainbow unicorn (talk) 23:21, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge selectively & redirect to Llanelli Star. Obvious solution since we have an article on his newspaper, minor though it is. DGG ( talk ) 01:40, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge selectively & redirect to Llanelli Star. My serrches on the Proquest archive brought up little, beyond coverage in the paper he edited. Nor, for example an obit in any paper except the Star, that I could find. DGG's soluiton here is a good one.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:27, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Selective Merge to Llanelli Star. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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 I couldn't establish that he meets [[WP:BIO]] or [[WP:GNG]]. Has been tagged for notability for over 7 years; hopefully, we can now resolve this. Sending [[WP:APPNOTE]] to {{u|Jonathan Oldenbuck}}. [[User:Boleyn|Boleyn]] ([[User talk:Boleyn|talk]]) 15:17, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
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 *'''Delete''', a proper search for additional sources reveals no significant coverage in reliable sources to show that this gentleman meets Wikipedia's standards for inclusion. [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 12:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
 *'''Comment:''' Lloyd was the President of the Guild of British Newspaper Editors. Per cite:
-**{{cite news|title=Editors' guild president dies|date=29 December 1986|work=[[The Herald (Glasgow)|The Glasgow Herald]]|page=3|accessdate=21 October 2015|via=[[Google News Archive]]}}
+**{{cite news|title=Editors' guild president dies|date=29 December 1986|work=[[The Herald (Glasgow)|The Glasgow Herald]]|page=3|via=[[Google News Archive]]}}
 *Hope this information is helpful, &mdash; '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 12:35, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' only if this is notable and acceptable. [[User:SwisterTwister|<span style="color:green;">SwisterTwister</span>]] [[User talk:SwisterTwister|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]] 04:55, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
+*{{u|SwisterTwister}}, I'm afraid I don't understand your comment. All articles should be kept 'only if this is notable and acceptable.' But is this person [[WP:NOTABLE]], and what convinces you? Best wishes, [[User:Boleyn|Boleyn]] ([[User talk:Boleyn|talk]]) 20:44, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
+::I know the article may not seem like much but any other better sources may not be online so this makes consider keeping, {{U|Boleyn}}. [[User:SwisterTwister|<span style="color:green;">SwisterTwister</span>]] [[User talk:SwisterTwister|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]] 20:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
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+*The article upon which Cirt relies is one headline and two sentences. It only says this: "Editors' guild president dies. The president of the Guild of British Newspapers, Mr Geoffrey Lloyd, has died. Mr Lloyd, 53, had been suffering from cancer."  That's it.  That's not significant coverage by any stretch of the imagination.  [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 13:08, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
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+*'''Delete''' I don't think it's been established that being president of this guild means probable notability and current sourcing found isn't good enough. The guild merged to form the "Society of Editors" in 1999 [http://www.societyofeditors.co.uk/page-view.php?pagename=History] if it's talking about the correct one. Current president doesn't have an article, there's an entry for his name but I don't think it's him. The "Immediate Past President" doesn't have one either. [[User:Rainbow unicorn|Rainbow unicorn]] ([[User talk:Rainbow unicorn|talk]]) 23:21, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
+*'''Merge selectively & redirect to ''[[Llanelli Star]]'''''. Obvious solution since we have an article on his newspaper, minor though it is. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 01:40, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
+*'''Merge selectively & redirect to ''[[Llanelli Star]]'''''. My serrches on the Proquest archive brought up little, beyond coverage in the paper he edited.  Nor, for example an obit in any paper except the Star, that I could find.  DGG's soluiton here is a good one.[[User:E.M.Gregory|E.M.Gregory]] ([[User talk:E.M.Gregory|talk]]) 22:27, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
+*'''Selective Merge''' to ''[[Llanelli Star]]''. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<span style="font-size:x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 21:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
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