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The result was '''keep'''. [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 18:38, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
===[[Solo (Australian soft drink)]]===
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Real product, possibly popular, not notable. There is no significant coverage, and there is little hope of expanding this article past ingredients, sizes, and availability. Several "references" on the page; blogs and an online store, not reliable sources. ▫ '''[[User:JohnnyMrNinja|<font color="#202040">Johnny</font><font color="#204040">Mr</font><font color="#206040">Nin</font><font color="#204040">ja</font>]]''' 09:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Real product, possibly popular, not notable. There is no significant coverage, and there is little hope of expanding this article past ingredients, sizes, and availability. Several "references" on the page; blogs and an online store, not reliable sources. ▫ '''[[User:JohnnyMrNinja|<span style="color:#202040;">Johnny</span><span style="color:#204040;">Mr</span><span style="color:#206040;">Nin</span><span style="color:#204040;">ja</span>]]''' 09:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''Merge and redirect''' to [[Schweppes Australia]], which is in need of writing. Iconic drink from an iconic company, we should cover it, although not in a standalone article. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 11:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''Merge and redirect''' to [[Schweppes Australia]], which is in need of writing. Iconic drink from an iconic company, we should cover it, although not in a standalone article. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 11:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' (or merge). [[User:Pladask|Pladask]] ([[User talk:Pladask|talk]]) 14:37, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' (or merge). [[User:Pladask|Pladask]] ([[User talk:Pladask|talk]]) 14:37, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' definitely a part of Australian drinking culture. notbale but as per above, suggest schweppes article. its not going to go on and become anything more than an iconic australian drink. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Xmusica1|Xmusica1]] ([[User talk:Xmusica1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xmusica1|contribs]]) 04:55, 24 February 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*'''Merge''' definitely a part of Australian drinking culture. notable but as per above, suggest schweppes article. its not going to go on and become anything more than an iconic australian drink. [[User:Xmusica1|Alvin M.]] ([[User talk:Xmusica1|talk]]) 04:59, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Food and drink|list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>—[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] ([[User talk:Tom Morris|talk]]) 15:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)</small>
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Food and drink|list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>—[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] ([[User talk:Tom Morris|talk]]) 15:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)</small>
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Australia|list of Australia-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>—[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] ([[User talk:Tom Morris|talk]]) 15:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)</small>
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Australia|list of Australia-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>—[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] ([[User talk:Tom Morris|talk]]) 15:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)</small>
*'''see also''' [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Solo (Norwegian soft drink)]]--'''[[User:Milowent|Milowent]]''' • <small><sup style="position:relative">[[Special:Contributions/Milowent|has]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">[[User talk:Milowent|spoken]]</span></sup></small> 16:15, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''see also''' [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Solo (Norwegian soft drink)]]--'''[[User:Milowent|Milowent]]''' • <small><sup style="position:relative">[[Special:Contributions/Milowent|has]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">[[User talk:Milowent|spoken]]</span></sup></small> 16:15, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
*I have merged and redirected both [[Passiona]] and [[Solo (Australian soft drink)]] to [[Schweppes Australia]]. There are probably more soft drinks. These drinks are popular, but not quite at the level of [[Coca-Cola]], and in the absence of significant secondary source coverage, they are probably best merged together. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 05:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
* '''Note''' - when Afd's are ''in progress'' there is a specific request to not do as such - your merge is not correct process - please understand that Afd discussion and the note above the article say ''not to do so'' until the Afd is finished. [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 01:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
:*That's a view, but not universal or absolute. [[Wikipedia:AfD_and_mergers#Merging_during_deletion_discussions]] does not say what you assert. I also consider [[Wikipedia:Closing Administrator is not an Edit on Demand Service]] and [[User:Mangojuice/Administrators are not slaves]], and I do not commit myself to return to this nominated page after its eventual close. In this case, the counter proposal to the nom was to merge to a page that was then a redirect. This is too unclear to leave as is for subsequent AfD participants or even the closer. In a minimum of edits, I demonstrated a minimum effort at the merge. I don't see anything controversial in this. In fact, even after the revert by The-pope, and your comments, this AfD remains applicable to WP:SK#1. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 03:18, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
::* is only an essay, not policy. The text in the AFD notice clearly states that ''the article must not be blanked''. Redirecting it to another article is blanking, IMO. [[User:The-Pope|The-Pope]] ([[User talk:The-Pope|talk]]) 06:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' or merge to Schweppes - ''after the afd'' has been completed - [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 01:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. The current [[Schweppes Australia]] article is insufficient and overly concentrates ([[WP:UNDUE]]) on the two brands, rather than on the company and it's whole history - and the fact that it doesn't mention Schweppervescence or lemonade or mixers means that it needs a lot of work. Whilst this may sound like a [[WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES]] argument, but Solo is a long standing iconic soft drink brand in Australia, but suffers from using a "normal word" so Google searches are difficult to focus on the actual brand, not just the word solo. [[User:The-Pope|The-Pope]] ([[User talk:The-Pope|talk]]) 06:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. Certainly a notable brand in Australia, though obviously the article could use some work.[[User:Doctorhawkes|Doctorhawkes]] ([[User talk:Doctorhawkes|talk]]) 11:14, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' There are plenty of sources out there as far as I can tell. For example, here's a useful one [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=WKFWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kecDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2825,4217959&dq=solo+schweppes&hl=en]. Even in 1979 it was already acknowledged that Solo received substantial coverage in the media. --[[User:99of9|99of9]] ([[User talk:99of9|talk]]) 04:00, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
* '''Keep:''' Notable soft drink in Australia. See [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Aziz+Shavershian%22&tbm=nws&tbs=ar:1#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&tbs=ar:1&tbm=nws&source=hp&q=solo+%22soft+drink%22+Australia&pbx=1&oq=solo+%22soft+drink%22+Australia&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=34366l35681l1l35906l10l7l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=4312b2b9fb395744&biw=1600&bih=723 Google news] results. --[[User:LauraHale|LauraHale]] ([[User talk:LauraHale|talk]]) 05:45, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per those above, especially The-Pope. Definitely a notable soft drink in Australia (can be bought everywhere) and I'm sure in-depth sources exist. [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 19:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
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