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:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page.'' |
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The result was '''keep'''. [[User:Martijn Hoekstra|Martijn Hoekstra]] ([[User talk:Martijn Hoekstra|talk]]) 18:38, 2 March 2012 (UTC) |
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===[[Solo (Australian soft drink)]]=== |
===[[Solo (Australian soft drink)]]=== |
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Real product, possibly popular, not notable. There is no significant coverage, and there is little hope of expanding this article past ingredients, sizes, and availability. Several "references" on the page; blogs and an online store, not reliable sources. ▫ '''[[User:JohnnyMrNinja|< |
Real product, possibly popular, not notable. There is no significant coverage, and there is little hope of expanding this article past ingredients, sizes, and availability. Several "references" on the page; blogs and an online store, not reliable sources. ▫ '''[[User:JohnnyMrNinja|<span style="color:#202040;">Johnny</span><span style="color:#204040;">Mr</span><span style="color:#206040;">Nin</span><span style="color:#204040;">ja</span>]]''' 09:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge and redirect''' to [[Schweppes Australia]], which is in need of writing. Iconic drink from an iconic company, we should cover it, although not in a standalone article. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 11:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Merge and redirect''' to [[Schweppes Australia]], which is in need of writing. Iconic drink from an iconic company, we should cover it, although not in a standalone article. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 11:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' (or merge). [[User:Pladask|Pladask]] ([[User talk:Pladask|talk]]) 14:37, 23 February 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' (or merge). [[User:Pladask|Pladask]] ([[User talk:Pladask|talk]]) 14:37, 23 February 2012 (UTC) |
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*I have merged and redirected both [[Passiona]] and [[Solo (Australian soft drink)]] to [[Schweppes Australia]]. There are probably more soft drinks. These drinks are popular, but not quite at the level of [[Coca-Cola]], and in the absence of significant secondary source coverage, they are probably best merged together. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 05:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC) |
*I have merged and redirected both [[Passiona]] and [[Solo (Australian soft drink)]] to [[Schweppes Australia]]. There are probably more soft drinks. These drinks are popular, but not quite at the level of [[Coca-Cola]], and in the absence of significant secondary source coverage, they are probably best merged together. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 05:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC) |
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* '''Note''' - when Afd's are ''in progress'' there is a specific request to not do as such - your merge is not correct process - please understand that Afd discussion and the note above the article say ''not to do so'' until the Afd is finished. [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 01:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC) |
* '''Note''' - when Afd's are ''in progress'' there is a specific request to not do as such - your merge is not correct process - please understand that Afd discussion and the note above the article say ''not to do so'' until the Afd is finished. [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 01:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:*That's a view, but not universal or absolute. [[Wikipedia:AfD_and_mergers#Merging_during_deletion_discussions]] does not say what you assert. I also consider [[Wikipedia:Closing Administrator is not an Edit on Demand Service]] and [[User:Mangojuice/Administrators are not slaves]], and I do not commit myself to return to this nominated page after its eventual close. In this case, the counter proposal to the nom was to merge to a page that was then a redirect. This is too unclear to leave as is for subsequent AfD participants or even the closer. In a minimum of edits, I demonstrated a minimum effort at the merge. I don't see anything controversial in this. In fact, even after the revert by The-pope, and your comments, this AfD remains applicable to WP:SK#1. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 03:18, 25 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::* is only an essay, not policy. The text in the AFD notice clearly states that ''the article must not be blanked''. Redirecting it to another article is blanking, IMO. [[User:The-Pope|The-Pope]] ([[User talk:The-Pope|talk]]) 06:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep''' or merge to Schweppes - ''after the afd'' has been completed - [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 01:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC) |
* '''Keep''' or merge to Schweppes - ''after the afd'' has been completed - [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 01:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep'''. The current [[Schweppes Australia]] article is insufficient and overly concentrates ([[WP:UNDUE]]) on the two brands, rather than on the company and it's whole history - and the fact that it doesn't mention Schweppervescence or lemonade or mixers means that it needs a lot of work. Whilst this may sound like a [[WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES]] argument, but Solo is a long standing iconic soft drink brand in Australia, but suffers from using a "normal word" so Google searches are difficult to focus on the actual brand, not just the word solo. [[User:The-Pope|The-Pope]] ([[User talk:The-Pope|talk]]) 06:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep'''. Certainly a notable brand in Australia, though obviously the article could use some work.[[User:Doctorhawkes|Doctorhawkes]] ([[User talk:Doctorhawkes|talk]]) 11:14, 28 February 2012 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep''' There are plenty of sources out there as far as I can tell. For example, here's a useful one [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=WKFWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kecDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2825,4217959&dq=solo+schweppes&hl=en]. Even in 1979 it was already acknowledged that Solo received substantial coverage in the media. --[[User:99of9|99of9]] ([[User talk:99of9|talk]]) 04:00, 29 February 2012 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep:''' Notable soft drink in Australia. See [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Aziz+Shavershian%22&tbm=nws&tbs=ar:1#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&tbs=ar:1&tbm=nws&source=hp&q=solo+%22soft+drink%22+Australia&pbx=1&oq=solo+%22soft+drink%22+Australia&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=34366l35681l1l35906l10l7l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=4312b2b9fb395744&biw=1600&bih=723 Google news] results. --[[User:LauraHale|LauraHale]] ([[User talk:LauraHale|talk]]) 05:45, 29 February 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' per those above, especially The-Pope. Definitely a notable soft drink in Australia (can be bought everywhere) and I'm sure in-depth sources exist. [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 19:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC) |
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