Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yasni

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The result was no consensus. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 12:19, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Yasni

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Article was written by a person paid by the company. Article is, therefore not surprisingly, biased. There are no reliable and independent sources. NoCultureIcons (talk) 16:29, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 00:57, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 00:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 00:57, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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• Comment The single ref in the article is poor, but there is also a Zeit article discussing Yasni in both headline and article, albeit in a context with competing aggregators such as 123people and Spock (website), which may be indicative of some local notability. AllyD (talk) 07:02, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
• Comment There might be enough references to write a good and independet article, however this is rather a press release than an article. --Doc z (talk) 10:03, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable website.-PlasmaDragon (talk) 02:56, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

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• Weak Delete, doesn't seem to meet WP:WEB, although there may be additional sources in German available that I can't read. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 11:46, 12 August 2012 (UTC).
• Comment  First of all, this is a website seen and sometimes used by Wikipedia editors while researching notability.  Next, as per WP:BEFORE step B6, "Check if there are interlanguage links, also in the sidebar, which may lead to more developed and better sourced articles."  I clicked on one link in the German Wikipedia and found this ref.  I think that the course of this discussion would be different had the sources on the German Wikipedia been mentioned in the nomination.  I've also tried to track down the claim that there is a paid editor involved.  The fact that the claim is unsourced should be a red flag.  There is discussion on the German Wikipedia, both on the talk page of the creator and the talk page of the German article, which even with Google translate remains unclear to me what it means.  At a minimum, the editor alleged to have written a biased article should get an invitation on his/her German Wikipedia talk page to this discussion.  Unscintillating (talk) 14:34, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Continuing to research the German Wikipedia has yielded these sources:

• ref1 In this article about "people search engines" Yasni gets the most attention.  Yasni is mentioned in the subtitle, the lead picture is of Yasni, and the article has many embedded links that refer to Yasni.  These links include the following.

• ref2 The initial paragraph cites an incident with Yasni privacy concerns, the second paragraph cites a negotiation with Yasni about personal data, and the third paragraph has Time Online (Zeit Online) asking questions to Yasni.

• ref3 2007 news story about Yasni.

• ref4 The page won't translate in Google translate, but I was able to copy and paste the text to get the translation. There is only one or two sentences about Yasni, but it is an in-depth technical comment.

• ref5 German legal analysis of yasni and 123people

Unscintillating (talk) 17:21, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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• Keep  Passes WP:GNG and WP:N.  Unscintillating (talk) 22:30, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
• Comment Here was the confirmation that the author is working for the company. The German article was completely rewritten. Originally it was almost the same content as the English, Spanish and Portugese article - in all cases the article was written by the company. --Doc z (talk) 21:28, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm, which also shows that the nominator is an involved party on the German Wikipedia.  I propose that WP:V WP:BURDEN be applied immediately such that the article is as follows.  The two sentences in the lead are retained and the one sentence that has a citation is retained, with the six references I've listed in this AfD added in an "Additional references" section.  The external link is retained, the categories are retained, the logo in the infobox is retained, and the AfD notice is retained.  I request that an editor agree.  Unscintillating (talk) 23:38, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

• Comment  I gave Yasni a test run on "Johnny Prill" for WP:Articles for deletion/Johnny Prill (2nd nomination) and found two references.  I expect to use it again.  Unscintillating (talk) 23:38, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.