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The result was delete. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Austin Goh

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This was previously deleted under both PROD and A7 as non-notable. Although I've turned up some sources (see this diff), I've yet to find anything that conclusively satisfies WP:GNG. Bringing it to AfD to get proper consensus for retention/deletion. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC) Yunshui 雲‍水 13:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No convincing claim to notability. It says Goh teaches people who, the article goes on to say, "Likely too new to be notable"? The existing sources do not stand up to GNG or RS. Creator has presented an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument on my talk page. There's a borderline tone of Advertisement. The JPS ^{talk to me} 16:43, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Respectful of policy guys, I realise some of the sources may sound like advertising and that's what I'm trying to avoid whilst still trying to provide sufficient evidence of his notability. Additionally I don't know any of his students who have achieved recognition. I am of the WT lineage (different from WC) Kittensfoot (talk) 21:41, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:08, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:08, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete The only claim to notability seems to be that he holds a world record, but previous discussions have said that is insufficient for notability. There's nothing to show his books allow him to meet WP:AUTHOR. Papaursa (talk) 00:17, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete For the same reasons as above - the Guinness record is exactly the same worth as the bat breaking discussed on the Martial Arts Project page (ie. not enough to confer notability). If there could be some attempt to support 1000s of students in multiple countries I would change my opinion. Right now its just words.Peter Rehse (talk) 01:38, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have now added some additional sources including his history as a bodyguard to Harrison Ford Kittensfoot (talk) 23:59, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I PRODed this article in March, and while it's been improved, I still don't think he meets the notability criteria. Mdtemp (talk) 16:17, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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 This was previously deleted under both PROD and A7 as non-notable. Although I've turned up some sources (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_JPS&diff=prev&oldid=501697196 this diff]), I've yet to find anything that conclusively satisfies [[WP:GNG]]. Bringing it to AfD to get proper consensus for retention/deletion. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;'''[[User talk:Yunshui|雲]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|水]]''' 13:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC) [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;'''[[User talk:Yunshui|雲]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|水]]''' 13:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' No convincing claim to notability. It says Goh teaches people who, the article goes on to say, "Likely too new to be notable"? The existing sources do not stand up to GNG or RS. Creator has presented an [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] argument on my talk page. There's a borderline tone of Advertisement. [[User:The JPS|<span style="color:purple;">The <b>JP</b>S</span>]][[User talk:The JPS|'''<sup style="color:purple;"><b>talk</b> to me</sup>''']] 16:43, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
+Respectful of policy guys, I realise some of the sources may sound like advertising and that's what I'm trying to avoid whilst still trying to provide sufficient evidence of his notability. Additionally I don't know any of his students who have achieved recognition. I am of the WT lineage (different from WC) [[User:Kittensfoot|Kittensfoot]] ([[User talk:Kittensfoot|talk]]) 21:41, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
+:<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Martial arts|list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>[[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 14:08, 12 July 2012 (UTC)</small>
+:<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Sportspeople|list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>[[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 14:08, 12 July 2012 (UTC)</small>
+*'''Weak Delete''' The only claim to notability seems to be that he holds a world record, but previous discussions have said that is insufficient for notability.  There's nothing to show his books allow him to meet [[WP:AUTHOR]]. [[User:Papaursa|Papaursa]] ([[User talk:Papaursa|talk]]) 00:17, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
+*'''Weak Delete''' For the same reasons as above - the Guinness record is exactly the same worth as the bat breaking discussed on the Martial Arts Project page (ie. not enough to confer notability).  If there could be some attempt to support 1000s of students in multiple countries I would change my opinion.  Right now its just words.[[User:PRehse|Peter Rehse]] ([[User talk:PRehse|talk]]) 01:38, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
+I have now added some additional sources including his history as a bodyguard to Harrison Ford [[User:Kittensfoot|Kittensfoot]] ([[User talk:Kittensfoot|talk]]) 23:59, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' I PRODed this article in March, and while it's been improved, I still don't think he meets the notability criteria. [[User:Mdtemp|Mdtemp]] ([[User talk:Mdtemp|talk]]) 16:17, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
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