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The result was '''redirect to [[Primary schools in Singapore]]'''. <small>([[Wikipedia:NACD|non-admin closure]])</small> [[User:Natg 19|Natg 19]] ([[User talk:Natg 19|talk]]) 06:57, 26 September 2016 (UTC) |
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Based on the premise that primary schools are not inherently notable, this totally unsourced article was redirected to its locality in the manner evidenced by the hundreds of junior school articles handled this way and documented in the cat. 'R from school'. This school fails [[WP:ORG]],its age and notable alumni not being elements that lend notability to elementary schools. Thus the community should have its say. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 16:29, 3 September 2016 (UTC) |
Based on the premise that primary schools are not inherently notable, this totally unsourced article was redirected to its locality in the manner evidenced by the hundreds of junior school articles handled this way and documented in the cat. 'R from school'. This school fails [[WP:ORG]],its age and notable alumni not being elements that lend notability to elementary schools. Thus the community should have its say. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 16:29, 3 September 2016 (UTC) |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Schools|list of Schools-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Shawn in Montreal|Shawn in Montreal]] ([[User talk:Shawn in Montreal|talk]]) 17:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)</small> |
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Schools|list of Schools-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Shawn in Montreal|Shawn in Montreal]] ([[User talk:Shawn in Montreal|talk]]) 17:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Singapore|list of Singapore-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Shawn in Montreal|Shawn in Montreal]] ([[User talk:Shawn in Montreal|talk]]) 17:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)</small> |
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Singapore|list of Singapore-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Shawn in Montreal|Shawn in Montreal]] ([[User talk:Shawn in Montreal|talk]]) 17:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Redirect to [[Primary schools in Singapore]]''' To be honest, the school is borderline notable here (although this may be a personal reflection in this case), and it shares a history with [[Fairfield Methodist School (Secondary)]]. However the article is a magnet for COI editing and promotion. I personally do not see a good reason to keep this article and I would suggest a redirect here. The history section can be adequately covered in the article about the secondary school. --[[User:Lemongirl942|Lemongirl942]] ([[User talk:Lemongirl942|talk]]) 17:53, 6 September 2016 (UTC) |
*'''Redirect to [[Primary schools in Singapore]]''' per [[WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES]] To be honest, the school is borderline notable here (although this may be a personal reflection in this case), and it shares a history with [[Fairfield Methodist School (Secondary)]]. However the article is a magnet for COI editing and promotion. I personally do not see a good reason to keep this article and I would suggest a redirect here. The history section can be adequately covered in the article about the secondary school. --[[User:Lemongirl942|Lemongirl942]] ([[User talk:Lemongirl942|talk]]) 17:53, 6 September 2016 (UTC) |
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:*On looking further, this particular school actually is not really the same as the older school with the same name. So I don't see any claim to notability now. --[[User:Lemongirl942|Lemongirl942]] ([[User talk:Lemongirl942|talk]]) 15:51, 17 September 2016 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep'''. I understand [[User:Kudpung]] is referring to the article before it was cleanup-ed, but currently I believe that it meets [[WP:ORG]] and even [[WP:GNG]], and possibly even satisfies [[WP:V]]. As an author of the article, I believe there are now multiple reliable sources that contain significant coverage about the school included in the article that have been added. Given that the school has been in existence for nearly one hundred and thirty years, and was the first Methodist School to go co-educational, I think the age and history of the school warrants it notable. Besides, in recent years there have been plenty of press coverage about this school, which lends support to it having its own article. Additionally, I believe its previous school building would let it fall under [[WP:NGEOG]], though it would need to be expanded. [[User:Gs97|Gs97]] ([[User talk:Gs97|talk]]) 16:27, 7 September 2016 (UTC) |
*'''Keep'''. I understand [[User:Kudpung]] is referring to the article before it was cleanup-ed, but currently I believe that it meets [[WP:ORG]] and even [[WP:GNG]], and possibly even satisfies [[WP:V]]. As an author of the article, I believe there are now multiple reliable sources that contain significant coverage about the school included in the article that have been added. Given that the school has been in existence for nearly one hundred and thirty years, and was the first Methodist School to go co-educational, I think the age and history of the school warrants it notable. Besides, in recent years there have been plenty of press coverage about this school, which lends support to it having its own article. Additionally, I believe its previous school building would let it fall under [[WP:NGEOG]], though it would need to be expanded. [[User:Gs97|Gs97]] ([[User talk:Gs97|talk]]) 16:27, 7 September 2016 (UTC) |
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::This is not the same school as the original methodist school. This school itself is not that old. It is run by the same society and can be though of as a successor but it is definitely not the same school. Accordingly NGEO can only be applied for the buildings associated with this school itself, not the previous school. --[[User:Lemongirl942|Lemongirl942]] ([[User talk:Lemongirl942|talk]]) 16:34, 11 September 2016 (UTC) |
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*'''Redirect''' as the Keep vote, I presume, is not keeping to mind or considering how there has been explicit consensus stating that primary schools themselves are not automatically kept as their own article. Thus, with all of this said in the past, there's nothing to keep, but can in fact at least be relinked elsewhere. [[User:SwisterTwister|<span style="color:green;">'''S'''wister'''T'''wister</span>]] [[User talk:SwisterTwister|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]] 05:46, 18 September 2016 (UTC) |
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*'''Redirect''' to [[Primary schools in Singapore]] per [[WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES]] as primary schools are not presumed to be inherently notable. [[WP:PROMO]] is also a concern, so a redirect (perhaps after "delete"), makes sense. [[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 20:21, 25 September 2016 (UTC) |
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Primary schools in Singapore. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 06:57, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
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Based on the premise that primary schools are not inherently notable, this totally unsourced article was redirected to its locality in the manner evidenced by the hundreds of junior school articles handled this way and documented in the cat. 'R from school'. This school fails WP:ORG,its age and notable alumni not being elements that lend notability to elementary schools. Thus the community should have its say. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:29, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Singapore-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to Primary schools in Singapore per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES To be honest, the school is borderline notable here (although this may be a personal reflection in this case), and it shares a history with Fairfield Methodist School (Secondary). However the article is a magnet for COI editing and promotion. I personally do not see a good reason to keep this article and I would suggest a redirect here. The history section can be adequately covered in the article about the secondary school. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 17:53, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
- On looking further, this particular school actually is not really the same as the older school with the same name. So I don't see any claim to notability now. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. I understand User:Kudpung is referring to the article before it was cleanup-ed, but currently I believe that it meets WP:ORG and even WP:GNG, and possibly even satisfies WP:V. As an author of the article, I believe there are now multiple reliable sources that contain significant coverage about the school included in the article that have been added. Given that the school has been in existence for nearly one hundred and thirty years, and was the first Methodist School to go co-educational, I think the age and history of the school warrants it notable. Besides, in recent years there have been plenty of press coverage about this school, which lends support to it having its own article. Additionally, I believe its previous school building would let it fall under WP:NGEOG, though it would need to be expanded. Gs97 (talk) 16:27, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 17:10, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 17:10, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- This is not the same school as the original methodist school. This school itself is not that old. It is run by the same society and can be though of as a successor but it is definitely not the same school. Accordingly NGEO can only be applied for the buildings associated with this school itself, not the previous school. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 16:34, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:14, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:14, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect as the Keep vote, I presume, is not keeping to mind or considering how there has been explicit consensus stating that primary schools themselves are not automatically kept as their own article. Thus, with all of this said in the past, there's nothing to keep, but can in fact at least be relinked elsewhere. SwisterTwister talk 05:46, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to Primary schools in Singapore per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES as primary schools are not presumed to be inherently notable. WP:PROMO is also a concern, so a redirect (perhaps after "delete"), makes sense. K.e.coffman (talk) 20:21, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.