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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:32, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vlatka Jovanović

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WP:BLP of a radio personality and former tennis player, not reliably sourced as having a strong claim to passing our notability criteria for broadcasters or tennis players. When it comes to radio, the notability claim is that her show exists, which is not an automatic notability freebie -- but the radio content is referenced entirely to her own employers rather than any evidence of reliable source coverage about her in third-party sources. And when it comes to tennis, there's a claim here that might possibly satisfy WP:NTENNIS (I'm admittedly not knowledgeable enough about tennis to know if it does or not) if it were sourced properly, but is still cited exclusively to deadlinked primary source directories rather than any evidence of GNG-worthy media coverage.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from actually having to have any reliable source coverage in real media. Even if a person has a plausible potential notability claim, they still have to have reliable source coverage to support it. Bearcat (talk) 13:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio, Tennis, and Croatia. Bearcat (talk) 13:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Journalism, and Hong Kong. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The ITF $10K title from 2008 falls way short of the standards of WP:NTENNIS. Iffy★Chat -- 09:14, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Iffy and nom. Not finding the sources to meet WP:GNG and achievements in tennis are not close to meeting WP:NTENNIS Adamtt9 (talk) 22:41, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Player does not meet notability guidelines, specifically not playing in a WTA main draw nor Fed Cup match. While they won an ITF 10K doubles tournament, it is not at the required level deemed notable within WP:NTENNIS. mcburk 03:09, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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-[[WP:BLP]] of a radio personality and former tennis player, not [[WP:RS|reliably sourced]] as having a strong claim to passing our notability criteria for broadcasters or tennis players. When it comes to radio, the notability claim is that her show exists, which is not an automatic notability freebie -- but the radio content is referenced entirely to her own employers rather than any evidence of reliable source coverage about her in third-party sources. And when it comes to tennis, there's a claim here that might satisfy [[WP:NTENNIS]] ''if'' it were sourced properly, but is still cited exclusively to deadlinked [[WP:PRIMARYSOURCES|primary source]] directories rather than any evidence of GNG-worthy media coverage.<br>Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from actually having to have any reliable source coverage in real media. Even if a person has a plausible potential notability claim, they still have to have reliable source coverage to support it. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 13:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
+[[WP:BLP]] of a radio personality and former tennis player, not [[WP:RS|reliably sourced]] as having a strong claim to passing our notability criteria for broadcasters or tennis players. When it comes to radio, the notability claim is that her show exists, which is not an automatic notability freebie -- but the radio content is referenced entirely to her own employers rather than any evidence of reliable source coverage about her in third-party sources. And when it comes to tennis, there's a claim here that might possibly satisfy [[WP:NTENNIS]] (I'm admittedly not knowledgeable enough about tennis to know if it does or not) ''if'' it were sourced properly, but is still cited exclusively to deadlinked [[WP:PRIMARYSOURCES|primary source]] directories rather than any evidence of GNG-worthy media coverage.<br>Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from actually having to have any reliable source coverage in real media. Even if a person has a plausible potential notability claim, they still have to have reliable source coverage to support it. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 13:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
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+*'''Delete''' The ITF $10K title from 2008 falls way short of the standards of [[WP:NTENNIS]]. [[User:Iffy|Iffy]]★[[User Talk:Iffy|Chat]] -- 09:14, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' per Iffy and nom. Not finding the sources to meet [[WP:GNG]] and achievements in tennis are not close to meeting [[WP:NTENNIS]] [[User:Adamtt9|Adamtt9]] ([[User talk:Adamtt9|talk]]) 22:41, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' Player does not meet notability guidelines, specifically not playing in a WTA main draw nor Fed Cup match. While they won an ITF 10K doubles tournament, it is not at the required level deemed notable within [[WP:NTENNIS]]. [[User:Mcburk|mcburk]] 03:09, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
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