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⚫ | : You are not writing edit summaries. Can you explain why you [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Nupur_Sharma_%28politician%29&type=revision&diff=1091996359&oldid=1091995608 changed] "controversial" to "later developed into controversy"? Do you know what "controversial" means? And what exactly do you mean by "later"? Did either of those sources justify requiring a change? -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 16:32, 7 June 2022 (UTC) |
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⚫ | :::::the scroll syas this and i quote "BJP leader made the remarks during a show about the [https://scroll.in/article/1024408/farzi-organisation-why-hindu-petitioners-in-gyanvapi-case-have-split Gyanvapi mosque-Kashi Vishwanath temple dispute] on Times Now on Thursday. A day later, the news channel distanced itself from Sharma’s comments after a huge controversy erupted on social media." i have edited the article as per RS[[User:Ghodbunder|Ghodbunder]] ([[User talk:Ghodbunder#top|talk]]) 16:38, 7 June 2022 (UTC) |
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⚫ | *::Only two people commented there, one an editor too new to be likely to understand and inappropriately replying to a three year old discussion, I've removed that, you shouldn't edit archives. But the first comment seems reasonable. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 09:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
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⚫ | : You are not writing edit summaries. Can you explain why you [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Nupur_Sharma_%28politician%29&type=revision&diff=1091996359&oldid=1091995608 changed] "controversial" to "later developed into controversy"? Do you know what "controversial" means? And what exactly do you mean by "later"? Did either of those sources justify requiring a change? -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 16:32, 7 June 2022 (UTC) |
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⚫ | :::::the scroll syas this and i quote "BJP leader made the remarks during a show about the [https://scroll.in/article/1024408/farzi-organisation-why-hindu-petitioners-in-gyanvapi-case-have-split Gyanvapi mosque-Kashi Vishwanath temple dispute] on Times Now on Thursday. A day later, the news channel distanced itself from Sharma’s comments after a huge controversy erupted on social media." i have edited the article as per RS[[User:Ghodbunder|Ghodbunder]] ([[User talk:Ghodbunder#top|talk]]) 16:38, 7 June 2022 (UTC) |
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⚫ | *::Only two people commented there, one an editor too new to be likely to understand and inappropriately replying to a three year old discussion, I've removed that, you shouldn't edit archives. But the first comment seems reasonable. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 09:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
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*:::@[[User:Ghodbunder|Ghodbunder]]@[[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] however, it appears that you like it sometimes, eg you left it in [[Satyendra Kumar Jain]] although you deleted what looked like relevant text (and as I say in my warning, you didn't use an edit summary). So why was it ok there and not here? [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 10:26, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
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[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to [[:Satyendra Kumar Jain]], without giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]]. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your [[User:Ghodbunder/sandbox|sandbox]] for that. ''Which I note that you did without an edit summary. Why did you delete the comment about it being fake?''<!-- Template:uw-delete2 --> [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 10:22, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:there are always train load of comments on any developing issue in India. Adding each comment in unencyclopedic, if we add reaction then it seems like we are reading a newspaper and not an encyclopedia [[User:Ghodbunder|Ghodbunder]] ([[User talk:Ghodbunder#top|talk]]) 11:59, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
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::i hope you got my point what i try to say [[User:Ghodbunder|Ghodbunder]] ([[User talk:Ghodbunder#top|talk]]) 12:00, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:::Yes but I disagree and you should have put a specific argument in your edit summary. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 14:14, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
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::::lets agree to disagree, peace [[User:Ghodbunder|Ghodbunder]] ([[User talk:Ghodbunder#top|talk]]) 18:44, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::Not about edit summaries. You need to use them and use them properly. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 07:37, 16 June 2022 (UTC) |
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[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hi Ghodbunder! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of [[:Satyendra Kumar Jain]] several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the [[WP:Edit warring|edit warring]] policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable. |
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:<nowiki>{{tq|Massive protests erupted at mosques in several Indian cities, including New Delhi, Hyderabad, Saharanpur, and other places after Friday Muslim prayers}}</nowiki> [[User:Ghodbunder|Ghodbunder]] ([[User talk:Ghodbunder#top|talk]]) 05:20, 13 June 2022 (UTC) |
:<nowiki>{{tq|Massive protests erupted at mosques in several Indian cities, including New Delhi, Hyderabad, Saharanpur, and other places after Friday Muslim prayers}}</nowiki> [[User:Ghodbunder|Ghodbunder]] ([[User talk:Ghodbunder#top|talk]]) 05:20, 13 June 2022 (UTC) |
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::Howrah is in (a) New Delhi or (b) Hyderabad or (c) Saharanpur? Or is it your claim that {{tq|other places}} can be used to support any damn Muslim protest in any part of India? [[User:TrangaBellam|TrangaBellam]] ([[User talk:TrangaBellam|talk]]) 05:43, 13 June 2022 (UTC) |
::Howrah is in (a) New Delhi or (b) Hyderabad or (c) Saharanpur? Or is it your claim that {{tq|other places}} can be used to support any damn Muslim protest in any part of India? [[User:TrangaBellam|TrangaBellam]] ([[User talk:TrangaBellam|talk]]) 05:43, 13 June 2022 (UTC) |
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[edit]Please disclose your old account. TrangaBellam (talk) 09:40, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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- You are not writing edit summaries. Can you explain why you changed "controversial" to "later developed into controversy"? Do you know what "controversial" means? And what exactly do you mean by "later"? Did either of those sources justify requiring a change? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:32, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- the citation didnt mention the comment by Sharma was controversial. Ghodbunder (talk) 16:35, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- edit summary are necessarily required ?Ghodbunder (talk) 16:35, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, edit summaries are always required, unless it is obvious what you are doing.
- You need to look up what "controversial" means in a dictionary.
- You may also need to read the sources to see how they support the content. You can't just look for words. For example, the second source says:
Soon after Sharma’s remarks, the internet had exploded with questions about Aisha’s age when she got married and cartoons of the Prophet for marrying someone so young.
- Does this warrant "later"? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- the source you quoted nowhere say the remarks are controversial . the article must have to mention if its controversial or not . Ghodbunder (talk) 16:52, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- the scroll syas this and i quote "BJP leader made the remarks during a show about the Gyanvapi mosque-Kashi Vishwanath temple dispute on Times Now on Thursday. A day later, the news channel distanced itself from Sharma’s comments after a huge controversy erupted on social media." i have edited the article as per RSGhodbunder (talk) 16:38, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- edit summary are necessarily required ?Ghodbunder (talk) 16:35, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- the citation didnt mention the comment by Sharma was controversial. Ghodbunder (talk) 16:35, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Does WP:RSOPINION say remove the source? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:40, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- On what basis do you claim that The Wire is not a reliable source? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:40, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- on the basis of this discussion on RSN Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 248#Scroll, OpIndia, The Wire, The Quint, The Print, DailyO, postcardnews, rightlog etc. Ghodbunder (talk) 07:10, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Only two people commented there, one an editor too new to be likely to understand and inappropriately replying to a three year old discussion, I've removed that, you shouldn't edit archives. But the first comment seems reasonable. Doug Weller talk 09:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Ghodbunder@Kautilya3 however, it appears that you like it sometimes, eg you left it in Satyendra Kumar Jain although you deleted what looked like relevant text (and as I say in my warning, you didn't use an edit summary). So why was it ok there and not here? Doug Weller talk 10:26, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Only two people commented there, one an editor too new to be likely to understand and inappropriately replying to a three year old discussion, I've removed that, you shouldn't edit archives. But the first comment seems reasonable. Doug Weller talk 09:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- on the basis of this discussion on RSN Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 248#Scroll, OpIndia, The Wire, The Quint, The Print, DailyO, postcardnews, rightlog etc. Ghodbunder (talk) 07:10, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]It may not have been your intention, but one of your edits, specifically one that you made on Nupur Sharma (politician), may have been a change that some consider controversial. Due to this, your edits may have been reverted. When making possibly controversial changes, it is good practice to first discuss your edit on the article's talk page before making it, to gain consensus over whether or not to include the text, phrasing, etc. If you believe that the information you added was correct, please initiate that discussion. Thank you. Packer&Tracker (talk) 11:54, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Satyendra Kumar Jain, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Which I note that you did without an edit summary. Why did you delete the comment about it being fake? Doug Weller talk 10:22, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- there are always train load of comments on any developing issue in India. Adding each comment in unencyclopedic, if we add reaction then it seems like we are reading a newspaper and not an encyclopedia Ghodbunder (talk) 11:59, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- i hope you got my point what i try to say Ghodbunder (talk) 12:00, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yes but I disagree and you should have put a specific argument in your edit summary. Doug Weller talk 14:14, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- lets agree to disagree, peace Ghodbunder (talk) 18:44, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not about edit summaries. You need to use them and use them properly. Doug Weller talk 07:37, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- lets agree to disagree, peace Ghodbunder (talk) 18:44, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yes but I disagree and you should have put a specific argument in your edit summary. Doug Weller talk 14:14, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- i hope you got my point what i try to say Ghodbunder (talk) 12:00, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi Ghodbunder! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Satyendra Kumar Jain several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.
All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Satyendra Kumar Jain, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. Venkat TL (talk) 07:33, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]Please quote the particular line from the cited source that concerns with the protests in Howrah. Thanks, TrangaBellam (talk) 05:14, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- {{tq|Massive protests erupted at mosques in several Indian cities, including New Delhi, Hyderabad, Saharanpur, and other places after Friday Muslim prayers}} Ghodbunder (talk) 05:20, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Howrah is in (a) New Delhi or (b) Hyderabad or (c) Saharanpur? Or is it your claim that
other places
can be used to support any damn Muslim protest in any part of India? TrangaBellam (talk) 05:43, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Howrah is in (a) New Delhi or (b) Hyderabad or (c) Saharanpur? Or is it your claim that
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