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Zakir Naik

Hi, about the edit I made in that article. The text was "he is regarded as an exponent of the Salafi ideology, and as a radical Islamic televangelist propagating Wahhabism". in this way, It seems that the opinions are the same while Salafi movement is different from wahabism (which is considered radical islam while Salafi movement is not), so I thought that should be clarified by explaining that each opinion is different. and also "he is regarded" makes it seem as the only view of him, while he actually rejects secularism in Islam as the article says. and I'm sorry If my style wasn't good enough as I'm not a native speaker :) with my regards Mohamed^Talk 23:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

@محمد عصام: The original text read better but if you think it was misrepresenting facts, then go ahead and make your change. I'm not up to speed with what is or isn't radical islam (or Zakir Naik). If whatever you add needs fixing, someone will come and fix it. Best. --regentspark (comment) 23:30, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

I think It will be best to explain my edit at the talk page to know more opinions from others and see if someone can make it more clear and easier to understand , thank you Mohamed^Talk 23:38, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

DS/IPA Question

RP, @Neil: Are discretionary sanctions under IPA, in practice, only applied for disputes/conduct-issues that fall along the nationalist/caste/ethnic fault-lines or have they been applied more generally for articles/editors that (undoubtedly) fall under India/Pakistan project, but are not in any of those narrow categories?

The question is general, but rises from my recent intervention at Swami Nithyananda w.r.t editor Akhilkodali. I am not contemplating any immediate action, but can imagine article/editor based restrictions becoming necessary given persistent RS/POV/BLP/COI issues. Abecedare (talk) 23:03, 20 July 2018 (UTC) (pinging User:Bishonen too. Abecedare (talk) 23:05, 20 July 2018 (UTC))

I wouldn't think any fault-lines are needed for sanctionable misconduct. Dogmatic religious POVs, linguistic POVs, history POVs or political POVs are quite common too. But perhaps those users back off before reaching the precipice. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:07, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Generally, the sanctions have been applied more generally. As Kautilya3 states, the religious etc. POV editors are more careful, so that's been less of a problem there. I'm seeing the same "careful" effect in the nationalistic and Indo-Pak areas, particularly after the recent blanket topic bans were issued but not yet in the caste area (which is overrun by socks anyway). --regentspark (comment) 13:47, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Kautilya, RP. Abecedare (talk) 14:53, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

protection

Hi regents park, How did u semi protect the article Karna. Can u explain in detail. I want to protect the article Arjuna because it is being subjected to vandalism constantly. If u can, please protect the article. Its my humble request. Im begging you plz plz.... Im requesting you because its being constantly edited by the following anonymous users: 157.50.77.172 & 117.195.231.245 Sri Harsha 08:52, 21 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MKS Harsha (talk • contribs)

@MKS Harsha:. I've semi-protected the article for the time being. But, like with the Karna article, I think there is a strong likelihood of sock activity and semi-protection won't help with that. @Abecedare: to watch the article and @Ms Sarah Welch: if they can help clean up the article.--regentspark (comment) 13:52, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Watchlisted. @MKS Harsha: some of those IP's edits are problematic but so are yours. You have got to read wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sourcing and stop adding material based on Mahabharat TV series episodes you watch on youtube etc. (pinging User:MKS Harsha again). Abecedare (talk) 15:19, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanking

I'm very much gratuitous and thankful to u sir. I requested bcoz it was frequently edited. I won't forget your help in my life. Thank you very much. Thanks a lot. Sri Harsha 16:24, 21 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MKS Harsha (talk • contribs)

WP:PINQ

Hi, Greetings.Please come back to quiz. Otherwise it will be deleted through deletion policy. Kindly please see this.--PATH SLOPU ^(Talk) 14:19, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Business user name

Hi, this user and username appears to be representing a business --> [1].... Another problem he is doing self promotional editing... but I Am not able to find the appropriate speedy deletion criteria or tag to tag this page... please advice me how to tag this for speedy... than you.. --Adamstraw99 (talk) 06:54, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Reported to UAA.Will be cleaning up the articles:)∯WBG^converse 07:22, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

National Herald (India)

Hi,

Need your help in editing National Herald (India). There is no Indore edition. That section needs to go. Also the editor is Zafar Agha. See: National Herald [2] & Outlook [3] Chirag (talk) 10:41, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)RP, are you sure about the level and the duration of protection:-Sysop protection for one year?! Might have been a misclick for I suppose, it should have been a semi for a week or so......:-)∯WBG^converse 11:43, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@Chirag and Winged Blades of Godric:. I think I protected it hoping that the few editors involved in the edit war would use the talk page to figure things out. Clearly that didn't happen. Anyway, unprotected. --regentspark (comment) 21:10, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Padmanabh Singh

Will need to go further back... didn't bother figuring out how far. Abecedare (talk) 12:49, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I noticed that (the prose I reverted to ....!). Will take a look later today.

Back to a sitush version.--regentspark (comment) 13:46, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Always a wise choice. Let me know if you consider yourself involved and need me to protect/block; the article history is a mess. Abecedare (talk) 18:21, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Definitely not involved. I have no idea who the guy is! --regentspark (comment) 18:34, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I meant wiki-involved (as in having edited the article), but got a laugh out of your chagrined reaction to the thought of being friends with the person. ;-) Abecedare (talk) 18:38, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

You know me. I spend my days on the back of a horse, twirling my illustrious mustache while I hit a ball with a long stick (and swig warm beer during breaks)! --regentspark (comment) 18:43, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Reading the article, I remembered that I have this draft in my userspace. Should try to complete it, perhaps to mark the fifth anniversary of its start! Abecedare (talk) 18:58, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

We should have an article on this so go for it. Looks good enough to move to mainspace. Would be interesting to see if sources that talk about the consequences of the amendment exist. --regentspark (comment) 19:09, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

• Can you extend the protection for Mukkulathor? Came out of one-year semi on July 10 and immediately set upon my IPs , new/dormant accounts etc. Not sure what's going on but I reverted to the last safe (ie Sitush's) version. Abecedare (talk) 22:49, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

  Done. But it won't keep everyone away!--regentspark (comment) 23:38, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Yup. But at least we won't be fighting shadows, and can (hopefully) discuss the issues with the rest of them. Abecedare (talk) 04:03, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Just realized that user:SpacemanSpiff had placed the Mukkulathor article under "ECP 30/500 editing restrictions" (see 2016 log). When you are next online, can you technically implement that by ECP protecting the article indefinitely? Right now the DS is "enforced" through a talkpage notice since I assume back in 2016 software-enforced ECP was not an available option. Abecedare (talk) 04:29, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Done that as well. --regentspark (comment) 14:09, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Abecedare (talk) 16:06, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Sanskrit is not official language of Ancient South India

The ancient dynasties of South India (Pandya dynasty, Chera dynasty, Chola dynasty) were contributing to Tamil and Tamil alone. When we look at the amount of contribution they have done to Tamil literature, it's countless. There is no "Hinduism" at their time. It was either Saivism or Vaisnavism. There is no sign of Sanskrit being used at those time as official / court language. Since the language was limited to a particular community (3% of the total population), can never be an official language, which become the soul reason for the extinction of Sanskrit.

It would be valid to remove "Sanskrit" as official language from all those four dynasties. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarathkmr12 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

To be honest, I have no clue about any of this. @Kautilya3 and Cpt.a.haddock: will be better able to figure this out. --regentspark (comment) 19:07, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't know the precise answer either. My advice would be to check the sources that have been cited. If the sources don't support the idea that Sanskrit was an official language, you can remove it, saying that it is not in the source. If somebody disagrees, you can discuss on the respective talk pages.

What is meant by an "official language" is a bit of a problem. If there are inscriptions in a language, we can regard it as official, because it has been used to communicate with the people. If the inscriptions are only in temples, then it is debatable whether it counts as "official". It could have been just religious. That would need to be discussed on the article talk pages. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Further to what Kautilya3 has already noted, the editor who inserted Sanskrit into the Pandyan dynasty infobox along with a reference is quite active. You can ping and discuss this issue with him on the article's talk page.—Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 07:32, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Bright☀ 08:42, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance with the posting. I think I got it right. If I can stay awake I'll deal with it further. Activist (talk) 11:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Devnagari script

But there is Devnagari script in artcile Arjuna SHM198 (talk) 11:51, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

@SHM198: Apologies. That was a mistake on my part and I should have been more careful. The ban against using indic scripts like devanagari only applies to the lead and to the infobox. --regentspark (comment) 13:49, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

AE

I wanted to answer your question at AE without getting into too many details about the content dispute over there - the link itself is not contentious, it is a duplicate link that is not needed. Yom Kippur War is already linked in the article lede. The content of the piping, however, has been discussed at the main article talk page more then once - nobody who has participated in those discussions, on either side of the debate, except Yaniv, thinks that this should be represented as launched an attack "against Israel". It was most recently discussed on the main article talk page while this current AE complaint was open - Icewhiz and I reached an agreement on "attacked Israeli positions", with details about Sinai and the Golan moved to the preceding paragraph to eliminate redundancy. That version seems to be stable for now. Seraphim System ^(talk) 05:14, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

DiDi

Hello. I came upon the discussion here on the page moving issue of Born2cycle. I see that you see the closure reasonable (Even the DiDi case presented as a particularly egregious example is not really that outré. Rather, b2c seems to have actually read the discussion, discovered that three editors (not one) are fine with DiDi because that's the name used internationally and by several reliable sources. Seems reasonable to close it that way, imo.) I would appreciate your input on Talk:DiDi (company)#Requested move 26 August 2018 as the page move and discussion closure has been reverted. Cheers. –Wefk423 (talk) 09:54, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I don't really have a comment on the article name, I just thought that b2c's close was reasonable, so I'll let other people figure this one out. Best wishes. --regentspark (comment) 17:51, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism

Respected Sir,

                        This is SHM198 as you know. The thing is about the article Abhimanyu. Sir the article is being subjected to repeated Vandalism. Even previously it happened in similar way. User Vikram veda is using multiple accounts & targetting the article Abhimanyu intentionally. He is just an antagonist of the character Abhimanyu. That's the reason he/she is spoiling it through by using other accounts. I strongly suspect that KarnaArjuna1 & KarnaArjuna2 are his accounts. Sir VIKRAMVEDA was previously blocked for using multiple accounts such as KARNSANGHINI & KARNAARJUNA. He/she is repeating the same. On the whole, I request you to protect the article Abhimanyu as it was done in the case of Arjuna & Karna. 
                                                                                 Thanking you 
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SHM198 (talk) 10:36, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

• @SHM198: I've semi-protected the page for six months because of excessive sock puppetry. --regentspark (comment) 14:25, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Everett

Doi you have time to look at Talk:Julian_F._Everett#Redelsheimer? Something weird going on there. - Sitush (talk) 17:02, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Indeed a mess. Commented there. --regentspark (comment) 17:54, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Re: not finding a Toole House on the NRHP, I have found this but it doesn't load consistently so you may have to hit refresh a few times. - Sitush (talk) 20:27, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Loaded, with difficulty. Perhaps we should webarchive it. Do you know how to do that? --regentspark (comment) 20:35, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Not a clue, sorry. I should know after all these years but it is so long since I last had a go and I am not at all confident. - Sitush (talk) 20:36, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Neither do I. I'm technologically illiterate. Oh, well. --regentspark (comment) 20:39, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

The top-level page does indeed seem to load slowly, but the underlying PDFs (photos and NRHP nomination form) are much faster. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:40, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Kosher

I had to come back and recreate my account thanks to you. I just added a funny name and random word+numbers as password and didn't even bother to note them down. I couldn't even find my name until I went back to Babur and now I am stuck with this one. Why did you remove everything I added and what do you mean by kosher? If you read Archaeology at the Heart of a Political Confrontation: The Case of Ayodhya, it says it's claimed he built it. The mosque and Mir Baqi article claim it's disputed whether he really built it. VeryBadShahback (talk) 05:55, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Didn't seem right to me but @Vanamonde93: for a more informed opinion. --regentspark (comment) 15:56, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

VeryBadShah: I'm a bit confused as to what you are claiming here. Nobody disputes that Mir Baqi built the Babri Masjid (or ordered it to be built, anyway). The controversy is over whether he knocked down a Hindu temple to do so (scholars largely say "no", some politicians say "yes"). Also: details about the archaeology of the site are undue weight in the article about Babur; they belong in the articles about the site and the dispute, where they already are. Vanamonde (talk) 16:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

"Archaeology at the Heart of a Political Confrontation: The Case of Ayodhya" is used to support that Mir Baqi built it on Babur's orders on Babur's article. But it just says it's claimed a general of Babur built it.

Babri Masjid and [[Baqi Tashqandi ]] say the inscriptions used to support the claim that Baqi built it is disputed and the inscriptions were fixed 285 years later. They use Kunal Kishore to support their claim https://books.google.co.in/books?id=gKKaDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA185&dq=285&source=bl&ots=G-NlCZ794p&sig=uxCWz-YX0gFua2vai-LkE9EsTZY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwituaDmpb_dAhXQbCsKHbjBDVEQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=285&f=false

Joseph Tiefenthaler claimed that Aurangzeb built it according to local Hindu belief https://books.google.co.in/books?id=VR3ICQAAQBAJ&pg=PT156&dq=ramcot+aurangzeb&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjK2beAqL_dAhVNfn0KHYM0AcQQ6AEIMjAC#v=onepage&q=ramcot%20aurangzeb&f=false

Ayodhya dispute like Babur also claims that Mir Baqi built it. But Babri Masjid and Baqi Taqshabandi dispute it. Please correct this. One article says one thing, another one another.VeryBadShahback (talk) 05:57, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Diwali 2018 in USA

You removed my link which lists all Diwali events taking place in the United States in 2018. As a reason you stated that this webpage would promote businesses which is not true for the most part. If you would have looked closely, the vast majority of the events taking place in temples, museums, public places like parks and squares etc. Surely, some are events were a small entrance fee is being charged to cover the cost, but these are not BUSINESSES or commercial events, only a few might be (this ought to be a comprehensive list I assume).

Therefore I would like to ask you to put the link back in place. Or otherwise, if you can find another comprehensive list of Diwali events taking place in the US 2018 then add this link instead. It is very useful for the community of 3 Million Indians living in the United States or for those visiting their families in the US at that time. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrsingh18 (talk • contribs) 15:01, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

@Mrsingh18: The link you're inserting is not an acceptable external link so it cannot be inserted. Best. --regentspark (comment) 17:06, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Parkash Singh Badal

Why did you revert my edit? As far as I know he is still alive. Gsingh (talk) 20:00, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

@Gsingh: Apologies, that was a mistake. Looks like someone else straightened it out. --regentspark (comment) 00:10, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

IP Address

My Ip address got no Ipv6, Ipv4 one60.50.28.7 (talk) 11:47, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

I guess

a range-block or an indefinite t/p protection (to semi) is desirable at Namasudra.∯WBG^converse 11:56, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

done by spiff --regentspark (comment) 13:51, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

E-mail

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Bad move

Someone recently moved an article to Pahari People and they're wrong. I tried to move it back to Pahari Rajput with the summary rv recent move: the source clearly mentions Pahari Rajput and in any case we already have Pahari people but don't have the permissions. Can you step in, please? - Sitush (talk) 18:12, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

@Sitush:. It was at Pahari Rajputs. Is the plural better or the singular rajput better?--regentspark (comment) 18:43, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Should be singular - that is our convention. - Sitush (talk) 18:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Done. Sorry, saw the first post, missed this conversation, so went ahead and moved it. Vanamonde (talk) 18:59, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, both. - Sitush (talk) 19:00, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Hijacking this thread, @Sitush: I have just granted you the page mover user right. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 19:09, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok, thanks Salvio. Something else for me to balls up ;) - Sitush (talk) 19:14, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Good to see you're still around Salvio. I thought you had done the famous wikipedia disappearing trick!--regentspark (comment) 19:19, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, indeed. I meant to say that, too. Not seen you around for ages and you were missed. - Sitush (talk) 19:21, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, both! Over the last months, work has been a bit of a bitch. Luckily, things have now become a little bit less hectic and, so, I am back to my favourite hobby. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 19:29, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

IAC LTA again?

Ramesh8888 (talk · contribs) is going berserk at 2011 Indian anti-corruption movement. May need intervention as could be the return of the IAC long-term abuse issue. - Sitush (talk) 20:43, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok, they're still removing stuff so I have sent it to ANI. - Sitush (talk) 21:35, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

FWIW I don't think this is the IAC sockfarm, this is just plain obtuseness, a lack of formal English, and disregard for/ignorance of policy. Vanamonde (talk) 22:26, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

This must feel like old times again Sitush! But, I think Vanamonde93 is right. This is a one person job. --regentspark (comment) 01:33, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Odd edits at Jadun

This new account made a large expansion of Jadun, incorporating some material from an equally large expansion made in August by the (also new) Khan701. The latter's stuff was clearly inappropriate, per my note on the article talk - WP:SPS etc.

I have just gutted the most recent changes per WP:V and WP:RS, and even what remains seems tenuous, especially bearing in mind that some of InfoSuburb's stuff that I removed appeared to be based on synthesis. I've asked for quotes but wonder whether it might be better to return it to the unsourced stub that it was, bearing in mind the protracted history of protection/SPA editing etc. I could leave a note on the talk page saying that stuff can be reinstated if and when quotes are provided, assuming they do in fact support the claims.

What do you think? - Sitush (talk) 02:59, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

I have since taken out even more, having found a scanned copy of the Olaf Caroe book online (illegal, perhaps?). - Sitush (talk) 03:20, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Looks like you've cleaned it up. --regentspark (comment) 13:27, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

May I Come In Madam?

Will you please look at the page and its creater. he is duck and creating disruptive pages and redirects on indian actors and serials which are previously deleted under G5. mentioned page was also deleted after a deletion discussion. Recently he was also autoblocked because of using same ip address which block sock was using for ex: check here user:Ritik1409, will you please investigate him. Regards. 119.160.118.210 (talk) 19:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Doesn't necessarily look that way to me. If you think Helpful14 is a sock, you should file an SPI report. --regentspark (comment) 20:08, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Actually i does'nt know much about filing SPI. He is creating dozens of redirects disruptly and creation of this page is also seems to me that he is sock of Shiwam Kumar Sriwastaw. 119.160.118.210 (talk) 20:25, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

I don't know much about this. @TonyBallioni: as the admin who deleted the page. --regentspark (comment) 20:31, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

I posted a message on their talk page. Thank You. 119.160.118.210 (talk) 20:45, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

not you, the other guy

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Padmashali

We have got problems at Padmashali but I'm not sure if it is a hopper or different people. In any event, I really cannot revert any more. I did leave a note on the talk page but then they made a completely different edit and removed something that appears to be sourced. - Sitush (talk) 07:01, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

I've semi-protected for a week. Hopefully they will either come to the talk page or go away. --regentspark (comment) 12:30, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

OK, thanks. WBG and someone else got involved after I stopped reverting, taking the load off me. We'll see what happens. - Sitush (talk) 13:18, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Topic banned for one year

Thanks for the note that I have been "East Europe topic banned" forever, and appeal banned for one year. Since I wasn't banned for an article edit, only for a Ukrainian Talk Page edit does this mean that I'm free to contribute to Russian articles? Only the western part of Russia was "East Europe", so I need some help with definitions of the topic ban. I'm guessing that "East Europe" includes former Warsaw Pact countries Hungary, Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Czech, Slovakia, Russia, etc. but NOT Siberia, Georgia, Abkhazia, Ossetia. Are you able to help me to determine the limits of my ban? In actual fact, I'd only run afoul of the Ukrainian Talk Page, so that's where the ban should lie. I'm not particularly upset of running afoul of the Ukrainians, and I'm able to leave the topic alone indefinitely with no regrets. But I'm not sure where the limits are. Can you help? Santamoly (talk) 05:27, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

@Santamoly: First, though the ban is indefinite, that does not mean it is a forever ban. You can appeal it after one year and, generally speaking, if you've edited in other areas reasonably peacefully in that one year, you have a good shot at getting it lifted. Second, it applies to all pages related to Eastern Europe, broadly construed. What that means is that you should not edit articles that are about, or refer to countries in that region. You cannot, for example, make an edit on something that, say, a German minister says about Poland. But, of course, you can make edits on European countries, Asian countries, American politics, books, movies, anything else. My suggestion is that even if there is a tangential relationship with an Eastern European country in an edit you're making, don't do it. BTW, you can't use the article talk pages or user talk pages to discuss these edits. If you want to think positively about this, then focus on the fact that you can show that you're here for the encyclopedia by broadening your edit horizons. Best. --regentspark (comment) 11:38, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

"focus on the fact that you can show that you're here for the encyclopedia by broadening your edit horizons"?? Interesting comment considering that I've done thousands of useful Good Faith edits for over the last 14+ years, on a huge range of topics, that someone would say such a thing after I was simply looking (with the greatest respect to all concerned) for consensus on an aerospace Talk Page! Santamoly (talk) 03:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

AE

I saw you comment on Mar4d's AE,[4] and I think you should not be using "uninvolved admin" section since we all have been party to same disputes for years. I still recall back in the day when you used to comment in involved editors section when DS was brought to AE. Also see this discussion that involved Mar4d, you, Orientls as parties of same dispute. While you note it was "close to the edge", you need to see the ban notice which clearly warned against testing any such edges.[5] Razer(talk) 15:20, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

I don't really think I'm involved in this dispute. I, of course, edit in the India area but that doesn't mean that I'm involved with everything to do with India. Definitely not in the India-Pakistan disputes (where I've issued admin sanctions), and most definitely not on anything to do with regional powers. It was different with DS, I liked the guy, and voluntarily moved myself to the involved section (though, I think I've both blocked as well as unblocked DS in the past). About the issue itself, I think Mar4d is entitled to talk about Pakistan as a regional power as long as he doesn't make any comparisons with India. Wouldn't that be similar to a discussion on "nuclear power"? For example, just because India has nuclear weapons, it doesn't necessarily follow that Mar4d can't talk about Pakistan's nuclear weapons. Similarly, just because India is labeled as a regional power, it doesn't mean that Mar4d can't join a discussion on whether Pakistan is a nuclear power. Imo, anyway. --regentspark (comment) 15:42, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Reverting

Sir please revert back content in article Arjuna as you did in Karna one hour ago. Article Arjuna has been changed by same editor who edited Karna Festival Lovers (talk) 15:51, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Greetings, i see you objected for the changes i made. All the changes i am making is according to the third party source i have read. Before objection always take a look to the editor contribution, maybe your viewpoint will change. For detail read Mahabharata by Anand pie.

Karna Story

Hello, I came to know that you tried to remove my edit contribution to wikipedia and asking for a source. From my own behalf i want to say that all the edit i am doing is after reading the whole Mahabharata of more than 5000+ pages. So if you also read about the both brothers story then you must not only be impartial to Karna, making his bad impression on readers. You are just a anti karna and do not know the real story. For source you can read Mahabharata english translation by K.M. Ganguly. http://www.mahabharataonline.com/translation/mahabharata_01002.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wapcos02 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what you've read or what is written in some english translation of the Mahabrarata, you need to use reliable secondary sources. Please see WP:RS and WP:V. --regentspark (comment) 16:23, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

I understood your point but first tell me from where will i give you a reliable source all these things could only be bought. And what are the sources of these edits made in this page i also need it same as you. There are several books publications you can see as Mahabharata by Anand pai, AmarChitraKatha publications it also gives a good explanation of my part, available to all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wapcos02 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

You need to make sure that these sources are reliable. For example, is Anand Pai a scholar of the Mahabharata? Is AmarChitraKatha a publisher of scholarly (academic) books? If Pai is a reasonably well known scholar and if ACK is a scholarly publisher then, sure, you can use their material. But don't just summarize what you read in a translation of the Mahabharata. --regentspark (comment) 16:58, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for understanding me. For all of your questions my answer is yes. He's well reputed. You can also check about him. I'm new to wiki so see i'm in learning phase but my knowledge is much better in my country legends. If u allow me can u revert my changes back, i need a few more edits to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wapcos02 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

It would be better if you added any well sourced material you have. Remember to source things inline. For example: "According to Pai Karna was .....". Each piece of information needs to be sourced explicitly. --regentspark (comment) 17:24, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

U don't know anything just asking for source without reading, is it a vandalism or not. From overall i see u the worst temporary admin who lacks, others are better than u who at least give explanation after reading because they know. Before being in a duty of admin to protect a particular page one must have sufficient knowledge. The one who made changes in this page without any particular source idk how he did it. I wish for your removal and bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wapcos02 (talk • contribs) 06:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

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Allahabad

Hi, could you please keep an eye on Allahabad? After the horde of editors trying to change all mention of Allahabad, there's now another horde trying to crowbar Prayagraj in as an official name. This is however not yet the case as it needs Central approval. Cheers.—Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 20:51, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

I've added it to my watchlist. --regentspark (comment) 21:38, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Sush150

Sush150 (talk · contribs) seems never to respond to queries etc on their own talk page. They did once clear it, which means they know it exists. What do we do? - Sitush (talk) 12:53, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Logically, blocks will follow. I have some rl stuff to clear up but will take a look later if no one has taken care of it. --regentspark (comment) 13:21, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

It is unfortunate. On this occasion, they are working on an article that has been subject to a lot of promotion both on- and off-wiki. Right now, after umpteen years of puffery and several related article deletions, I think it probably will turn out to be correct information but I don't see why we should indulge and Sush150 wasn't sourcing (I think they now may be, although given the past promo nonsense reported slavishly in an indulgent media, it is anyone's guess whether it is reliable). All of this is why I have been trying to get them to wait until 28 October - the putative release date - and it is why the article was put under editing restrictions etc. - Sitush (talk) 13:28, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

for being a voice of reason at the Sir Sputnik RfA. All this interrogation has left a bad taste in my mouth, and I don't think I'll be leaving the mainspace again any time soon. ceranthor 02:40, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Page protect thanks.

Thanks for protecting the List of countries by suicide rate. Are you able to roll back the edits to this edit, the last before IP editor started poking about? https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate&oldid=863502024 Thank you. Anastrophe (talk) 00:27, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Oops, never mind. Should have looked at the history again. It was at the correct edit. sorry! Anastrophe (talk) 00:29, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

No worries. --regentspark (comment) 00:30, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Ehem.. may I join you? Would you please apply the principle of charity to my self-admission as per my talk pages's replies (one of which reverted by this admin)? 81.151.196.17 (talk) 01:24, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

As a self-proclaimed banned user, you shouldn't be editing. Try asking for a WP:CLEANSTART instead. With apologies, I'm going to block your IP for a short while. --regentspark (comment) 01:26, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Revert

Sir please revert back entire content in article Karna which existed before for long time. I request you to edit the article plz. Plz Festival Lovers Festival Lovers (talk) 05:22, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

I request you to revert the content before Ms Sarah Welch edited Festival Lovers (talk) 05:26, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

@Festival Lovers: You should take up your concerns on the talk page of that article. Also see WP:DR if you think your views are not getting traction. Best. --regentspark (comment) 11:51, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

restriction

Hello. Please pay attention to the page Visa policy of Russia. The page hasn't been attacked in a long time. Protection was introduced a few years ago. How to cancel this restriction? Can you help? --109.252.45.173 (talk) 13:50, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi. You should contact User:Berean Hunter since they protected the page back in 2015. Ask them to take a look to see if the page needs continued protection or if it can be unprotected. Looking at your edits, the ones that were reverted, I think you need to provide a source (or sources). Best wishes. --regentspark (comment) 15:56, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! --109.252.45.173 (talk) 17:27, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

User:Dr.K. ethnocentric edit warring

RegentsPark, please help. This user @Dr.K.: is putting unreferenced Greek ethnocentric fluff into the articles related to Demetrius I. He is claiming Demetrius conquered modern day India, yet the references point to Indus Valley. As seen here, here, and here. Kindly help. I gave him ample warning to stop edit warring. (Highpeaks35 (talk) 03:42, 23 October 2018 (UTC))

Please note, User:Highpeaks35 is edit-warring very intensely across many articles. He is also hurling personal attacks in edit-summaries [6] [7], labeling anyone who clashes with him an "ethnocentric POV-pusher". Khirurg (talk) 04:02, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I have been editing for a long time. Look at my history. I have little to no history of edit warring. You are the one who is POV pushing, stating Demetrius conquered all of India, instead of just the Indus Valley. (Highpeaks35 (talk) 04:04, 23 October 2018 (UTC))

I don't give a hoot about your history. Right now all I see someone who is edit-warring like mad and hurling vile insults all over the place. Khirurg (talk) 04:11, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Insult? You stated the same here and here. Calling me a "POV-push". When clearly you are pushing your own narrative. Am I wrong when I edited Demetrius conquered the Indus Valley, instead of the link to modern day India? That is completely incorrect. (Highpeaks35 (talk) 04:13, 23 October 2018 (UTC))

I did not call you a "POV-push" (which would be ungrammatical), I called your edit a POV-push. Which exactly what it is. There is a world of a difference from that to this [8]. I strongly suggest you take a step back, and apologize instead of going on the offensive. Khirurg (talk) 04:16, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

POV for stating Demetrius conquered Indus Valley? You know Indus Valley is what he conquered right? (Highpeaks35 (talk) 04:19, 23 October 2018 (UTC))

(edit conflict × 2) The OP's accusations are a breach of WP:AGF and NPA and belie the fact that I did not invent this terminology. It is established historiographically and has been an established part of these articles for a long time. The amount of fast-paced move-warring, edit-warring across many articles, and nasty insults of this account here and in many edit-summaries show a serious problem with POV-pushing. Dr. K. 04:21, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Dr.K.: Wikipedia has no WP:DEADLINE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Highpeaks35 (talk • contribs)

I don't see how this has anything to do with what I wrote above, but I think you should give this advice to yourself, as it is you who is edit-warring as if there were no tomorrow. Dr. K.

You were doing the same. But, pointing figures is getting old. I still did not get an answer if I was wrong to put Indus Valley. I stated my reason, it is the most accurate term for new readers and experienced readers. Again, you quickly reverted my edits twice on 3 articles. We can both take responsibility. (Highpeaks35 (talk) 04:37, 23 October 2018 (UTC))

If you noticed, I stopped at two reverts and did not revert again. But you continued. This means, that I took the longer view of the matter, as opposed to the "no tomorrow" type of editing approach. As I mentioned in my edit-summaries, your changes have been discussed before in one form or another, and there is no consensus for your edits. Dr. K. 04:49, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Dr.K.: I double checked the talk pages for those 3 articles. I did not see any discussion regarding Demetrius conquering modern day India vs Indus Valley. Indus Valley is not wrong, actually it is correct. But, linking modern day India clearly is wrong. (Highpeaks35 (talk) 05:05, 23 October 2018 (UTC))

You can remove the wikilink to India. As far as discussions, they had to do with Afghanistan, South East Asia, Indian subcontinent, etc. I'm not sure about the Hindus Valley per se. Dr. K. 05:16, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@RegentsPark: you think it is wise to start RFC process for this now or wait until further discussions? (Highpeaks35 (talk) 04:23, 23 October 2018 (UTC))

(talk page watcher) Highpeaks35, I have no idea who is correct in this instance but I note from the diffs that there seems to be some issue with your use of Indian subcontinent. I must admit, I have had raised eyebrows at some of your changes in that vein at other articles. I've let it pass because I'm not in the mood for yet another debate but, well, perhaps you need to slow down a little and seek consensus? - Sitush (talk) 04:24, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Sitush: Yes, that is a different subject. But, in this case I was editing for in support for Indus Valley. But yes, I agree, I think I will avoid these history related articles for few weeks. Things have getting under my skin with some Eurocentric fluff. Wanted to make it fair. But, I will leave it to you guys. Will do some research and build consensus on these articles about Demetrius in a few weeks. As a hiker I always stated, mountain will be there. Same can be said about a wiki article. (Highpeaks35 (talk) 04:33, 23 October 2018 (UTC))

• I'm no expert on this but India seems more appropriate for 200-300 BCE. This time period is well after the decline of the IVC and Greek influence is always referred to as being on India never to the IVC. If you're using Indus Valley to refer to the region rather than to the civilization, then that could be misleading to the reader. Regardless of what is right or wrong, it is better to seek wider input than to edit war! --regentspark (comment) 12:30, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Protection(s)

Thank you! Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:43, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Problematic users

Hi RegentsPark, I have recently realized these editors popping in the exact same articles with the same edits @Ovrdtop, Rh7hd, and Swashik:. They edited the same articles with the same type of edits. It is very suspicious. It seems like they are the same user, who is using multiple accounts, then disappears and comes back with a new account. (Highpeaks35 (talk) 05:10, 27 October 2018 (UTC))

Hi Highpeaks35. It is possible though I don't see evidence of a temporal overlap. The best thing to do is to gather evidence and file an SPI when you think there is enough (I'd focus on the Bengal articles and see if they are adding the same information). --regentspark (comment) 12:12, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Theodor Morell

As soon as the semi-protection you put on this article lapsed, the IP came back (using a different #) to make the same edit. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:14, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Looks like it's been protected. Will keep an eye on it once protection expires. --regentspark (comment) 12:10, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Harry Elmer Barnes

Hi, could you please protect HEB again. Your protection was removed. Kind regards --Orik (talk) 07:32, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Doesn't seem to be any disruptive activity on that page. Will watch it though. Best. --regentspark (comment) 14:34, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Page histories

Hey RegentsPark, I just wanted to let you know I merged the histories on User:Pigsonthewing/Prakash Neupane, because it looked like you copied the text from the deleted article. This is technically a copyright violation since it was created by someone other than yourself, so I went ahead and cured it. Just wanted to let you know in case you was wondering what was going on with the logs. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:28, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Good point. Thanks! --regentspark (comment) 17:31, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

😡😡😡😡

Who the hell you are ... If you didn't put correct history ,I will stop your Wikipedia page from Whole India Ali Adel Rizvi (talk) 11:25, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Revert

Hi RegentsPark. Why did you revert my edit [[9]]? I gave the reasons for the edit which I consider valid.
1) The fact of Tipu's suppression of Mappilas is not contested by any historian/contemporary. It does not fulfil the criteria of controversiality.
2) It is not criticized by any historian/contemporary on moral or other grounds. It does not fulfil the criteria of criticality. Whereas there are sources given in the article which criticizes his persecution of Hindus and Christians on moral grounds.

I can add one more reason.
3) Apart from two blunt statements that "Tipu targeted Mappilas" and "he clamped down on...Mappilas" there is no discussion on it in the entire article. Hence it is not important enough to be included in the Introduction. Whereas nearly 50% of the article discusses his treatment of Hindus and Christians and hence should be included in the Introduction.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Edithgoche (talk • contribs) 17:14, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Possibly by mistake. I was trying to go far enough back to get the right date of birth and might have removed a meaningful edit. Feel free to add it back (assuming it is reliably sourced etc.). --regentspark (comment) 19:57, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

False warning issued

Please have a close look on edits before you issue warnings like you did on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday to me

Original edit with original information: 12:25, 14 October 2018‎

Linkspam edit by anonymous: 13:09, 8 November 2018‎

Revert by me: 19:17, 10 November 2018‎ => you gave me a warning for this

Revert by you including the spam link again: 14:28, 10 November 2018‎ / 19:53, 10 November 2018‎

You can not find any information about the customer spend on the linkspam edit...

Seems it's not allowed to post source to where informations originate from.

I hope in the future you take a close look before you issue warnings or make reverts.

No clue what you mean by all of the above but please don't post links to commercial sites. If you want to use something as a reference, please read our reliable source policy first. Best. --regentspark (comment) 00:17, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

I added a reliable source as cited in many Swiss newspapers, tv stations and so on and also put down some sentences about Black Friday in Switzerland on Wikipedias Black Friday page on Oct 14th (unfortunately, I was not logged in at that time). That source is the most trusted source in Switzerland about Black Friday, you can try to Google it.

Someone else just deleted the reference / source and pasted a commercial link with no added value (13:09, 8 November 2018‎ ) I tried to revert that, but you chose to delete the original link (trusted source) and revert back to a commercial plattform with no added value. The plattform you reverted to (the link you've set) does not contain any valuable informations for Black Friday in Switzerland.

Please, allow me to add the trusted original source link again and do not revert to SEO-links as you did. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jueluz (talk • contribs) 00:55, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry but a site that blazes "All deals and information" at the top of its page does not qualify as a reliable source for anything. The other link is also not suitable and someone has, correctly, removed it. --regentspark (comment) 13:21, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

1984

Sir i'm sorry i forgot to add citations. You left a comment, so, here they are.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/california-assembly-describes-1984-riots-as-genocide/article7130038.ece/amp/

https://littleindia.com/pennsylvania-state-assembly-terms-1984-anti-sikh-riots-as-sikh-genocide/amp/

https://wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/news-ians/ontario-passes-motion-recognising-1984-anti-sikh-riots-as-genocide-117040701062_1.html Xenon One (talk) 00:46, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Xenon One:. I understand where you're coming from and sympathize. However, most reliable sources refer to it as Anti-Sikh riots and that's why we use that term as the title. The riots as genocide is discussed in detail in the article itself and that's where it is appropriate. If you think your sources are strong enough, you should open a discussion on the talk page of the article and get consensus from the rest of the community. Best wishes. --regentspark (comment) 01:09, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

@RegentsPark: Okay. Can you provide some instructions for that? I didn't knew that there is a talk page even for an article.

See, Pennsylvania, California, Ontario, etc. have all recognised it as a genocide and i think that should be sufficient. But you're saying I should give info from a more reliable source like some global publishers?

@Xenon One:. Try posting your sources and suggested change to genocide at Talk:Anti Sikh riots. --regentspark (comment) 18:50, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

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Six years!

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Greetings and Salutations

To RegentsPark:

Hello!

Congratulations!

You have been included in my first, and possibly only, Very Early Christmas List!

As an earnest fellow believer in Santa Claus, and possibly in Our Redeemer Liveth as well, you may wonder how you got on this list.

I have no idea!

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Unless I tracked down the connection in our user talk archives, in which case you know who you are.

Or not!

All the best for you and yours this Christmas 2018 and New Year 2019!

– Athaenara jingles all the way 02:14, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

@Athaenara: Thanks Athaenara. Merry Christmas and best wishes to you for the New Year as well. --regentspark (comment) 11:37, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Protect the page

Pleae protect this page sir.Because Thirumangai alvar is a king of Mutharaiyar dynastry and Alvar.But Nittawinoda add the irrelevet sub title.Add the another Caste title so please protect the page and block the user Nittawinoda.thank you by--Jkalaiarasan86 (talk) 12:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year, RegentsPark!

Happy New Year!

RegentsPark,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Hope the new year will bring more friendly debates and collaboration for us. Best wishes. Cheers --DBigXrayᗙ 15:33, 31 December 2018 (UTC)