Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stereo Satellite

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Views are split primarily between keep and merge (neither of which requires admin action) with a side order of delete (which did not appear to have sufficient consensus). Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Stereo Satellite

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non-notable band that hasn't released anything -- FMSky (talk) 10:34, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Music. FMSky (talk) 10:34, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete fails WP:GNG Acousmana 12:38, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
• Keep or merge - Band has at least two notable musicians. Otherwise, merge to Lukas Rossi, Mike Orlando or John Moyer, but do not delete page history. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:09, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

so if someone forms a band and it has at least 2 musicians with a wikipedia article in it, that band is automatically notable and must be kept, even if that band never released anything? --FMSky (talk) 13:30, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

• Reply - WP:NBAND, "or merge". --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

  This is what it says: "Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles." The criteria says it "may be notable" if it meets this, so we still need to decide if this is enough. Zeddedm (talk) 20:55, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

• Reply - @Zeddedm:, "or merge". --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:22, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete - The above recommendation to keep/merge is the type of bureaucratic thinking that saddles Wikipedia with pointless articles that say nothing beyond how something exists, and dubiously precious edit histories of the same. WP:NBAND starts with the phrase "may be notable" if one of the criteria is satisfied. Well this band may be notable because it has certain musicians in it, until you do a little research and find that they achieved practically nothing beyond forming one day and telling a few media outlets that they existed. They created one single self-released video and then nothing else happened. The band's brief existence can be mentioned at each member's article. See also WP:EXIST and WP:SPEAKSELF. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:15, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
• Comment - WP:CHEAP. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:38, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

A redirect is indeed cheap, but so is reversing it. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:42, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

• Reply - Better to have the term point to something, instead of pointing to nothing. --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:21, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

• Week Keep - There is actually a lot of news from the band was formed and released a single, but nothing after, I have added 8 new citations. Per WP:NMUSIC they may also qualify "Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles." Zeddedm (talk) 20:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Note that several new sources were added to the article on 26 July 2022‎ (UTC), after this nomination for deletion and after most of the commentary above occurred.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:57, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

• Comment - I already voted above. The new sources are a triumph of quantity over quality and accomplish nothing. They all say the exact same thing, and merely repeat the two sources that were there before the AfD. Read all the sources and you will learn ten times that the band announced its formation in December 2017 and self-released a video for the song "Glass Houses". Those sources are all from the same two-week period, repeat the same basic information, and are probably all retreads of the same promotional announcement. Of interest: source #9 is an outlier because it says that an album was planned for 2018, which never happened, and neither did anything else for this band. So they managed to send their promo announcement to ten different magazines on their way to accomplishing nothing. Good for them. They still don't qualify for an article here. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:26, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

  This is why I said Weak Keep. I am not too thrilled about it. But whether all news is the same all not, as long as they are not exactly copied word-by-word, then they are considered new sources and count towards notability, because it shows that different publications have coverage on them. The publications have found them to be news worthy to write about them. Zeddedm (talk) 17:17, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 14:09, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.