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The result was merge to Southeastern Anatolia Project. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 _{(ICE-T • ICE CUBE)} 03:45, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TRT GAP

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Appears to fail WP:GNG, minimal independent sources, promotional article, not particularly notable. Nythar^T^.^C 02:25, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio, Television, Organizations, and Turkey. Nythar^T^.^C 02:25, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Significant national TV Channel that has been broadcasting for over 30 years. Any potential promotional nature of the article is fixable, but not really a major cause of concern given that the channel is defunct. --PiccklePiclePikel (talk) 16:21, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To the closing admin, please disregard the vote above as nearly all (if not all) of this users' votes have been keep while providing minimal and/or unreliable sources (see their contribs). Nythar^T^.^C 16:28, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Have you done WP:BEFORE ? --PiccklePiclePikel (talk) 16:32, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@PiccklePiclePikel: Is there a reason you vote "keep" so often? For a user who's been here for only a week, you seem to know more than regular newcomers, unless you've previously edited using an IP or something. Nythar^T^.^C 16:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Probably because it's easier to participate substantially in an article discussion that in your opinion is obviously notable in some way rather than the articles where you have your doubts. PiccklePiclePikel (talk) 16:56, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If somebody who can read Turkish is able to provide proper reliable source coverage to get it over WP:GNG before this discussion closes, then keep; if they do not, then delete. Absolutely nothing that can ever be claimed about any topic ever exempts it from actually having to have sources — even an "inherently" notable claim still has to be verified by sourcing to support it. Bearcat (talk) 17:26, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or Merge to Southeastern Anatolia Project Hello PiccklePiclePikel Even back then Turkey had lots of TV channels - why do you think this was significant? Chidgk1 (talk) 08:02, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No sources provided and quick duck search provided little coverage. Roostery123 (talk) 15:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Southeastern Anatolia Project. Fails WP:NTV per above arguments. SBKSPP (talk) 00:52, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 Appears to fail [[WP:GNG]], minimal independent sources, promotional article, not particularly notable. [[User:Nythar|<b style="color:#191970;">'''Nythar'''</b>]][[User talk:Nythar|<span style="color:#b21c1c;"><sup>'''T'''</sup></span>]]<sup>'''.'''</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Nythar|<span style="color:#b21c1c;"><sup>'''C'''</sup></span>]] 02:25, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 *<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting|deletion sorting]] lists for the following topics: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Radio|Radio]], [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Television|Television]], [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Organizations|Organizations]],  and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Turkey|Turkey]]. [[User:Nythar|<b style="color:#191970;">'''Nythar'''</b>]][[User talk:Nythar|<span style="color:#b21c1c;"><sup>'''T'''</sup></span>]]<sup>'''.'''</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Nythar|<span style="color:#b21c1c;"><sup>'''C'''</sup></span>]] 02:25, 31 August 2022 (UTC)</small>
-*'''Keep''' - Significant national TV Channel that has been broadcasting for over 30 years. Eventual promotional nature of the article is either fixable but not really a major cause of concern given that the channel is defunct. --[[User:PiccklePiclePikel|PiccklePiclePikel]] ([[User talk:PiccklePiclePikel|talk]]) 16:21, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' - Significant national TV Channel that has been broadcasting for over 30 years. Any potential promotional nature of the article is fixable, but not really a major cause of concern given that the channel is defunct. --[[User:PiccklePiclePikel|PiccklePiclePikel]] ([[User talk:PiccklePiclePikel|talk]]) 16:21, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
+*:To the closing admin, please disregard the vote above as nearly all (if not all) of this users' votes have been ''keep'' while providing minimal and/or unreliable sources (see their contribs). [[User:Nythar|<b style="color:#191970;">'''Nythar'''</b>]][[User talk:Nythar|<span style="color:#b21c1c;"><sup>'''T'''</sup></span>]]<sup>'''.'''</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Nythar|<span style="color:#b21c1c;"><sup>'''C'''</sup></span>]] 16:28, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
+*::Have you done [[WP:BEFORE]] ? --[[User:PiccklePiclePikel|PiccklePiclePikel]] ([[User talk:PiccklePiclePikel|talk]]) 16:32, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
+*:::{{re|PiccklePiclePikel}} Is there a reason you vote "keep" so often? For a user who's been here for only a week, you seem to know more than regular newcomers, unless you've previously edited using an IP or something. [[User:Nythar|<b style="color:#191970;">'''Nythar'''</b>]][[User talk:Nythar|<span style="color:#b21c1c;"><sup>'''T'''</sup></span>]]<sup>'''.'''</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Nythar|<span style="color:#b21c1c;"><sup>'''C'''</sup></span>]] 16:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
+*::::Probably because it's easier to participate substantially in an article discussion that in your opinion is obviously notable in some way rather than the articles where you have your doubts. [[User:PiccklePiclePikel|PiccklePiclePikel]] ([[User talk:PiccklePiclePikel|talk]]) 16:56, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
+*If somebody who can read Turkish is able to provide proper [[WP:RS|reliable source]] coverage to get it over [[WP:GNG]] before this discussion closes, then '''keep'''; if they do not, then '''delete'''. Absolutely nothing that can ever be claimed about any topic ever exempts it from actually having to have sources — even an "inherently" notable claim still has to be verified by sourcing to support it. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 17:26, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
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+*'''Delete''' or '''Merge''' to [[Southeastern Anatolia Project]] Hello {{u|PiccklePiclePikel}} Even back then Turkey had lots of TV channels - why do you think this was significant? [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 08:02, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' No sources provided and quick duck search provided little coverage. [[User:Roostery123|Roostery123]] ([[User talk:Roostery123|talk]]) 15:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
+*'''Merge''' to [[Southeastern Anatolia Project]]. Fails [[WP:NTV]] per above arguments. [[User:SBKSPP|SBKSPP]] ([[User talk:SBKSPP|talk]]) 00:52, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
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