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== RfC:Mentioning of Narendra Modi's marriage ==


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::: Thank you :) [[User:Fylindfotberserk|Fylindfotberserk]] ([[User talk:Fylindfotberserk|talk]]). Made my day.[[User:LovSLif|&#32;By LovSLif]] ([[User talk:LovSLif#top|talk]]) 02:36, 27 August 2019 (UTC)


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Desh language was original spoken language of Andhra tribe migrated from Yamuna River bank around 600BCE.
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It's Apabhramsa form is Paishachi language which is purely literary. Gunadya scripted Bruhatkatha in Paishachi.
Desh Language got dissolved in Telugu Language when Andhras settled themselves in east coast near Amaravati,their second capital.
Desh has no script to write.
In your edit made to Language section of Satavahana Dynasty you have mentioned that satavahana later kings had their names in both Prakrit and Desi(It is Desh not Desi)
Desh disapperaed pretty soon once it started getting dissolved in Telugu, much before 1 st Century BCE.
Desh(Paishachi) is Indo Aryan, Indo European family language
It is not Dravidian language like Telugu(Local Naga Yaksha tribes spoke),Tamil of ancient times.
Today's Telugu has essence of Desh(dissolved language),Prakrit,Pali and Sanskrit and widely varies from Tamil.


Please read "AndhraDarshini" Telugu language book published by Vishalandhra Prachuranaalayam ,Vijayawada in 1954.
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S V Narasayya, K S Reddy, G RadhaKrishnaMurty, AKRB koteswararao are authors of book.
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Pali language was used for Buddhist literature at Satavahana Dynasty. One can find this proof on wikipedia
:: Hi [[User:RegentsPark|regentspark]], thank you for this clarification. I also taught it included a sentence addition or two that eases flow. My mistake. [[User:LovSLif|&#32;By LovSLif]] ([[User talk:LovSLif#top|talk]]) 00:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Abhidhammapitaka was written in Pali and read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xuanzang for its information.
:::Sentence flow is fine but ''Some of the notable Kamma Nayak clans of Vijayanagara include the Pemmasanis, Sayapanenis, and Ravellas'' is adding content to the article. I noticed that almost all your edits are marked minor, that's probably not a good sign. --[[User:RegentsPark|regentspark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 00:12, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
He studied Abhidhammapitaka at Amaravati and taught Mahayana Buddhism to local monks in 7 th century.
I hope fact check will help improve content in Language section. [[User:DeepakMalhar|DeepakMalhar]] ([[User talk:DeepakMalhar|talk]]) 20:48, 23 June 2022 (UTC)


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:::: [[User:RegentsPark|regentspark]] My bad. For almost all edits I make, I do add sourcing, even if I mark them minor. Appreciate you informing me of the precise rules regarding it.


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From all the activity on this talk page, it looks to me like you are getting into quite a few problems with your edits. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kamma_%28caste%29&type=revision&diff=968113785&oldid=966952335 This seems to be another example]. I have no opinion regarding [[Selig Harrison]], whom I don't think I have ever read, but to remove a source on the basis that it was spouting "untenable" and "unverifable" points is simply not how we do things. Our policy is verifiability through citation of reliable sources, and you haven't actually explained ''why'' Harrison is unreliable, merely stated your opinion that, well, he was talking nonsense. How do you know that? Why is he not reliable? Have subsequent academics criticised his approach? Is he one of those people whom academics do not cite? Etc. You've got to discuss this type of situation because one thing is for sure, our biography for him claims that he was a scholar as well as a a journalist, so his opinion may be valid even if other sources disagree with him - that's [[WP:NPOV]] for you. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 09:41, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
: [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) Issue is Harrison is reproducing Kamma POV from Choudary, contradicting Talbot's more recent work also. Explained on talk page why elaboration on Sat Shudra role is better than giving credence to the work of a caste ideologue through Harrison's work.[[User:LovSLif|&#32;By LovSLif]] ([[User talk:LovSLif#top|talk]]) 09:44, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
: [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] What do you think on it? Choudary's work and its clear caste ideological pushing is a problem. If Harrison is basing his remarks from that, wouldn't that be problematic?
:: {{ec}} Hm, not sure. There seems to be a lot of effort being put in by a few people lately to get various Andhra etc castes described as ''sat shudra'' even though sources for it are pretty thin on the ground. You can see some recent attempts of mine to find sources at [[Talk:Kapu (caste)#Shudra]]. As I said, I haven't read Harrison and it could well be that he was writing as a journalist etc but I worry about removing what appears to be sourced info without getting consensus to do so. In particular, I worry when it happens at caste articles and the info was in some way unflattering to the caste - that is often just down to people wanting to whitewash things that they do not like. You probably need to raise these issues at the article talk page. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 09:50, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
::: [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] In this case, existing varna classification content is too over flattering. No evidence to claim that Kammas were predominating Kakatiya Court or were purely "noble". These claims seem to derive from Choudary's POV. Wrote on talk page for feedback and thoughts.[[User:LovSLif|&#32;By LovSLif]] ([[User talk:LovSLif#top|talk]]) 09:56, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
:::: Thanks. I have some real-life work to do that has a deadline but hopefully others can respond soon and, if not, I will take a closer look as soon as I can. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 10:14, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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{{tps}} LovSLif, that passage that you deleted is describing Choudhry and the "Kamma lore", which needs to be present in the article. I don't know why you would remove it. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 10:32, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
: [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] Issue is with the definitive phrasing of some of the content. "Reciting voluminous records to prove that" gives readers wrong impression. Harrison is relying on Chaudhary's caste propaganda work to make that statement. Giving credence to Chaudary's propaganda is problematic. Open to suggestions. [[User:LovSLif|&#32;By LovSLif]] ([[User talk:LovSLif#top|talk]]) 20:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
:: Ok, if you can develop a proper section dealing with the propaganda then we can replace the quote. There is enough scholarly material on it now. Other than Benbabaali, a Japanese scholar studied specifically the Choudhry propaganda. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 20:43, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
::: [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] Ok will find their discussions and look for synthesis. What do you think about the inclusion of what the general role of upper Shudras in South is? Include or not? [[User:LovSLif|&#32;By LovSLif]] ([[User talk:LovSLif#top|talk]]) 20:48, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
:::: I think all talk of the varna system is crap. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 21:23, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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Ayres, Alyssa; Oldenburg, Philip (2002). India briefing: quickening the pace of change

This link is not reliable when discussing about castes. Kamma page has this link. Also it is not necessary in that page. Refer to Sitush talk page under Raju subheading. [[User:EruTheLord|EruTheLord]] ([[User talk:EruTheLord|talk]]) 05:06, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
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Desh language was original spoken language of Andhra tribe migrated from Yamuna River bank around 600BCE. It's Apabhramsa form is Paishachi language which is purely literary. Gunadya scripted Bruhatkatha in Paishachi. Desh Language got dissolved in Telugu Language when Andhras settled themselves in east coast near Amaravati,their second capital. Desh has no script to write. In your edit made to Language section of Satavahana Dynasty you have mentioned that satavahana later kings had their names in both Prakrit and Desi(It is Desh not Desi) Desh disapperaed pretty soon once it started getting dissolved in Telugu, much before 1 st Century BCE. Desh(Paishachi) is Indo Aryan, Indo European family language It is not Dravidian language like Telugu(Local Naga Yaksha tribes spoke),Tamil of ancient times. Today's Telugu has essence of Desh(dissolved language),Prakrit,Pali and Sanskrit and widely varies from Tamil.

Please read "AndhraDarshini" Telugu language book published by Vishalandhra Prachuranaalayam ,Vijayawada in 1954. Page 28 for languages

S V Narasayya, K S Reddy, G RadhaKrishnaMurty, AKRB koteswararao are authors of book.

Pali language was used for Buddhist literature at Satavahana Dynasty. One can find this proof on wikipedia Abhidhammapitaka was written in Pali and read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xuanzang for its information. He studied Abhidhammapitaka at Amaravati and taught Mahayana Buddhism to local monks in 7 th century. I hope fact check will help improve content in Language section. DeepakMalhar (talk) 20:48, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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