Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wasan Samarnsin

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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 02:31, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Wasan Samarnsin

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Article created after playing 9 mins of professional football 7 years ago. Searches in Thai yielded a reasonable number of hits but nothing that seems to demonstrate WP:SPORTBASIC or WP:GNG. The best ones that I could find were Thsport, a basic transfer announcement, Ballthai, which is mainly copied from a fan site and Samarnsin's Facebook page, and Ballthai 2, which confirms that he was man of the match in a semi-pro third tier game. This is not a notable enough achievement for a stand-alone article. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:32, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Thailand. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:32, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:55, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
• Comment: The transfer coverage in SMM Sport[1] and SuperSub Thailand[2] do profile his career in a bit more detail (born 1992 in Rayong, plays midfield, became noticed from Assumption College Thonburi school team, joined Muang Thong Utd Academy, loaned to Phuket (2013), Nonthaburi (2014), Air Force (2015), joined Muang Thong's senior team in the 2016 season, first match on 20 August, loaned to Nakhon Pathom following year, transferred to Army Utd in 2018, Customs in 2020, Songkhla in 2021). Not sure if that counts as in-depth. Pinging GiantSnowman per request. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:53, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

In my view, these are just a prose version of the data listed on his Transfermarkt profile, which has his DOB, birthplace and history of loans and transfers on there. In fact, it's entirely possible that the SMM and SuperSub sources themselves might even be derived from looking at the database websites that feature this footballer. If it elaborated on his career a bit more in either article, then I'd be tempted to change my mind about the AfD but, as it's generally expected for transfer announcements to list former clubs of the player, I don't think we need a Wikipedia article for every footballer that has this type of coverage, otherwise we'll have an article on almost every single footballer that transfers between pro or semi-pro clubs and, in my view, the bar for notability would be too low. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:10, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

We also dismissed similar coverage at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yannasit Sukchareon although I appreciate that there wasn't huge participation. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:39, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

SMM and SuperSub sources are from local teams and local media. There is no way they get news from German website. SMM was even a public listed company under ticker name SMM until it made a backdoor listing deal with STARK. Other than sports, SMM is also a major manga publisher in Thailand [3]. SuperSub is just an online sport news website. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 03:44, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks for that, I've now struck the offending statement. My point still stands regarding the depth of the coverage, though, and that it doesn't go beyond what a typical database site would say about a footballer, even though it does it using prose rather than tables and stats. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:42, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Transfer news is by its very nature non-significant. GiantSnowman 15:35, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:47, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

• Delete. Most sources on google are only unreliable stats.`~HelpingWorld~` ^(👽🛸) 03:37, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
• Delete - Article fails WP:GNG. Jogurney (talk) 14:24, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
• Delete' - fails WP:GNG Angelo (talk) 23:14, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

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