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The result was '''keep'''. <span style="color:red; font-size: smaller; font-weight: bold;">§[[User:FreeRangeFrog|<span style="color:#00CA00">FreeRangeFrog</span>]]</span><sup>[[User talk:FreeRangeFrog|croak]]</sup> 00:16, 15 April 2015 (UTC) |
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I couldn't establish that this quite meets [[WP:ORG]] or [[WP:GNG]]. Tagged for notability by {{u|Bradv}} 7 years ago; hopefully it can now be resolved. [[User:Boleyn|Boleyn]] ([[User talk:Boleyn|talk]]) 07:15, 29 March 2015 (UTC) |
I couldn't establish that this quite meets [[WP:ORG]] or [[WP:GNG]]. Tagged for notability by {{u|Bradv}} 7 years ago; hopefully it can now be resolved. [[User:Boleyn|Boleyn]] ([[User talk:Boleyn|talk]]) 07:15, 29 March 2015 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' – The company <s>is now</s> was later known as Computerlinks UK (source: [http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn-uk/news/1883798/unipalm-computerlinks]). See source search links below. [[User:Northamerica1000|N< |
*'''Comment''' – The company <s>is now</s> was later known as Computerlinks UK (source: [http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn-uk/news/1883798/unipalm-computerlinks]). See source search links below. [[User:Northamerica1000|N<span style="font-size:x-small;">ORTH</span> A<span style="font-size:x-small;">MERICA</span>]]<sup><span style="font-size:x-small;">[[User_talk:Northamerica1000|1000]]</span></sup> 08:38, 29 March 2015 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' – Meets [[WP:CORPDEPTH]]. Source examples include: |
*'''Keep''' – Meets [[WP:CORPDEPTH]]. Source examples include: |
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:<small>'''Significant coverage'''</small> |
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:* [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/unipalm-leads-the-pack-through-internet-gateway-1321997.html Unipalm leads the pack through Internet gateway]. ''[[The Independent]]''. |
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:* [https://books.google.com/books?id=BeU9J-WOkMUC&pg=PA142&dq=%22Unipalm+Pipex%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Z8UXVdzhPIWwogTKmoL4AQ&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Unipalm%20Pipex%22&f=false ''Stability and Change in High-Tech Enterprises'']. pp. 142-145. |
:* [https://books.google.com/books?id=BeU9J-WOkMUC&pg=PA142&dq=%22Unipalm+Pipex%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Z8UXVdzhPIWwogTKmoL4AQ&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Unipalm%20Pipex%22&f=false ''Stability and Change in High-Tech Enterprises'']. pp. 142-145. |
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:* [https://books.google.com/books?id=yA0EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA38 Network World Nov 1, 1993]. |
:* [https://books.google.com/books?id=yA0EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA38&dq=UniPalm,+unipalm%27s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=3ckXVbzgJ4a3ogS2vIHICw&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=UniPalm%2C%20unipalm's&f=false Network World Nov 1, 1993]. |
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:*[https://books.google.com/books?id=DDsEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA52&dq=UniPalm&hl=en&sa=X&ei= |
:*[https://books.google.com/books?id=DDsEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA52&dq=UniPalm,+unipalm%27s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NsoXVaLUHYHxoATQvYDgAQ&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=UniPalm%2C%20unipalm's&f=false InfoWorld Nov 15, 1993] |
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:* [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-3212773.html Internet Business News] {{paywall}} |
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:* [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-3167346.html Internet Business News] {{paywall}} |
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:* [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-3212960.html Internet Business News] {{paywall}} |
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:* [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-54225194.html Computergram International] {{paywall}} |
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:* [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-3213074.html Internet Business News] {{paywall}} |
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:* [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-111436595.html Daily Mail] {{paywall}} |
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:* [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-3167093.html Internet Business News] {{paywall}} |
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:* [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-3212687.html Internet Business News] {{paywall}} |
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:* [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-126936224.html Internet Business News] {{paywall}} |
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:<small>'''Additional information'''</small> |
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:* Also, at one time, Unipalm Pipex was the largest [[internet service provider]] in Europe, as per [https://books.google.com/books?id=zxcEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA39&dq=%22Unipalm+Pipex%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Z8UXVdzhPIWwogTKmoL4AQ&ved=0CE0Q6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=%22Unipalm%20Pipex%22&f=false Network World May 27, 1996]. |
:* Also, at one time, Unipalm Pipex was the largest [[internet service provider]] in Europe, as per [https://books.google.com/books?id=zxcEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA39&dq=%22Unipalm+Pipex%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Z8UXVdzhPIWwogTKmoL4AQ&ved=0CE0Q6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=%22Unipalm%20Pipex%22&f=false Network World May 27, 1996]. |
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:* [https://books.google.com/books?id=-9SyS6tX8GsC&pg=RA1-PA274 PC Mag Jul 1994] – Article about Unipalm's Mail-It email software |
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:– [[User:Northamerica1000|N<font size="-2">ORTH</font> A<font size="-2">MERICA</font>]]<sup><font size="-2">[[User_talk:Northamerica1000|1000]]</font></sup> 09:32, 29 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::*'''Comment''': All of that relates to [[:Pipex]] though, whose notability is in no dispute and which has its own article; I am not seeing that it demonstrates separate notability of Unipalm, as per [[:WP:NOTINHERITED]]? [[User:AllyD|AllyD]] ([[User talk:AllyD|talk]]) 10:07, 29 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:::*'''Comment''' – Pipex was a [[subsidiary]] of Unipalm: see [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-3212687.html this link]. As such, it was a part of Unipalm. Also, per the article, the company later changed its trading name to Unipalm-Pipex in July 1995. Also, please re-review the links I have provided; they are not all about the Pipex subsidiary. [[User:Northamerica1000|N<span style="font-size:x-small;">ORTH</span> A<span style="font-size:x-small;">MERICA</span>]]<sup><span style="font-size:x-small;">[[User_talk:Northamerica1000|1000]]</span></sup> 10:13, 29 March 2015 (UTC) |
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* '''keep''' A crucial company for UK internet history, pre-web. It might be appropriate to merge with [[Pipex]], but that's a question of financial history more subtle than I'm familiar with. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 11:05, 29 March 2015 (UTC) |
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* <b>Strong Keep</b>: Per sources provided by North [[User:CorporateM|CorporateM]] ([[User_talk:CorporateM|Talk]]) 05:50, 8 April 2015 (UTC) |
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 00:16, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
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I couldn't establish that this quite meets WP:ORG or WP:GNG. Tagged for notability by Bradv 7 years ago; hopefully it can now be resolved. Boleyn (talk) 07:15, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA1000 08:36, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA1000 08:36, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA1000 08:36, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Comment – The company
is nowwas later known as Computerlinks UK (source: [1]). See source search links below. NORTH AMERICA1000 08:38, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
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- Delete: It seems to me that the notability of the first existence of Unipalm relates to Pipex and has sufficiently coverage in that article. As to its second existence, Highbeam turns up various routine distribution announcements, but I can see nothing indicating notability in that period up to its merger into Computerlinks, whose own website now just redirects to Arrow Electronics following an acquisition [2]. AllyD (talk) 08:53, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Keep – Meets WP:CORPDEPTH. Source examples include:
- Significant coverage
- Unipalm leads the pack through Internet gateway. The Independent.
- Stability and Change in High-Tech Enterprises. pp. 142-145.
- Network World Nov 1, 1993.
- InfoWorld Nov 15, 1993
- Internet Business News (subscription required)
- Internet Business News (subscription required)
- Internet Business News (subscription required)
- Computergram International (subscription required)
- Internet Business News (subscription required)
- Daily Mail (subscription required)
- Internet Business News (subscription required)
- Internet Business News (subscription required)
- Internet Business News (subscription required)
- Additional information
- Also, at one time, Unipalm Pipex was the largest internet service provider in Europe, as per Network World May 27, 1996.
- PC Mag Jul 1994 – Article about Unipalm's Mail-It email software
- – NORTH AMERICA1000 09:32, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: All of that relates to Pipex though, whose notability is in no dispute and which has its own article; I am not seeing that it demonstrates separate notability of Unipalm, as per WP:NOTINHERITED? AllyD (talk) 10:07, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Comment – Pipex was a subsidiary of Unipalm: see this link. As such, it was a part of Unipalm. Also, per the article, the company later changed its trading name to Unipalm-Pipex in July 1995. Also, please re-review the links I have provided; they are not all about the Pipex subsidiary. NORTH AMERICA1000 10:13, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- keep A crucial company for UK internet history, pre-web. It might be appropriate to merge with Pipex, but that's a question of financial history more subtle than I'm familiar with. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:05, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nakon 02:55, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nakon 02:55, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
- Strong Keep: Per sources provided by North CorporateM (Talk) 05:50, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
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