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The lead said that the parthenon was named after the statue. That is not true, this name is an epithet of Athena anyway. I thought that quality of Athena was what the parthenon was named after, but according to the article [[parthenon]] the origin of that name is unknown. But certainly the parthenon is not named after the ''statue'', which is named after her, much as a statue 'stinky fred' might be modelled on a bloke called 'stinky fred', but if the surrounding environment is known as "stinky" it may not be for the same reason. [[User:Merkinsmum|<b>< |
The lead said that the parthenon was named after the statue. That is not true, this name is an epithet of Athena anyway. I thought that quality of Athena was what the parthenon was named after, but according to the article [[parthenon]] the origin of that name is unknown. But certainly the parthenon is not named after the ''statue'', which is named after her, much as a statue 'stinky fred' might be modelled on a bloke called 'stinky fred', but if the surrounding environment is known as "stinky" it may not be for the same reason. [[User:Merkinsmum|<b><span style="color:orange;">Merkinsmum</span></b>]] 15:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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: This all seems a bit confused (but see my note under "Place of Worship" above). Certainly, Parthenos (ancient Greek παρθένος 'virgin') is an epithet applied to several goddesses, but especially Athena. Athene was an exception on Olympus because of her absolute chastity: She had no consort and no children. [[User:The Lesser Merlin|The Lesser Merlin]] ([[User talk:The Lesser Merlin|talk]]) 12:41, 20 January 2011 (UTC) |
: This all seems a bit confused (but see my note under "Place of Worship" above). Certainly, Parthenos (ancient Greek παρθένος 'virgin') is an epithet applied to several goddesses, but especially Athena. Athene was an exception on Olympus because of her absolute chastity: She had no consort and no children. [[User:The Lesser Merlin|The Lesser Merlin]] ([[User talk:The Lesser Merlin|talk]]) 12:41, 20 January 2011 (UTC) |
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Place of Worship?
[edit]Regarding "The reproduced Athena Parthenos gives visitors the impression that they truly are inside an ancient place of worship."
While a temple in honor of Athena, scholars do not consider the Parthenon to be a "place of worship," or the large Athena to be an object of worship. Rather, the people of Athens would congregate between the Erechtheum and the Parthenon, and the small, wooden statue, Athena Polias was the object of worship. Very seldom would anyone go inside the Parthenon and actually see the large Athena. 2KT (talk) 01:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- From somewhere I have a note (sadly, unsourced) that says The Parthenon was "a temple dedicated to Athena Parthenos [...]. A smaller room was dedicated to the maiden goddess (parthenon) and gave its name to the building. A larger room housed the statue of Athena by Phidias" The Lesser Merlin (talk) 12:52, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
<pipf></popΆf>==Dollar value== Does anyone have any information on how much the gilding and other gold on the statue is worth (in dollar values)? I realize the price of gold isn't always the same, but perhaps the dollar value for a specific year (like 1990) would be a nice bit of trivia to add...
At today's $1,257/oz, and her estimated 2,400 lbs of gold, that makes her value in today's dollars $48,295,680. 2KT (talk) 05:30, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Original
[edit]This article needs more on the original statue. The whole article is about the modern replica. --JW1805 (Talk) 04:28, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- So far the only editors who have worked on this article (besides yourself) reside in Nashville, so that would explain the bias. It's not necessarily that we favor the Nashville version, only that we have far more access to information about it. Kaldari 05:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- I agree - but rather than more on the original, please reduce the amount of text on the modern so-called replica. Better yet, remove the latter to a separate article, because it has little or nothing to do with the former. The Lesser Merlin (talk) 12:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree, I came here searching information on original statue and found an article mostly about some modern reproduction. I fully support notion to move the part about the replica to a separate article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.61.3.35 (talk) 23:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Parthenon & Parthenos
[edit]The lead said that the parthenon was named after the statue. That is not true, this name is an epithet of Athena anyway. I thought that quality of Athena was what the parthenon was named after, but according to the article parthenon the origin of that name is unknown. But certainly the parthenon is not named after the statue, which is named after her, much as a statue 'stinky fred' might be modelled on a bloke called 'stinky fred', but if the surrounding environment is known as "stinky" it may not be for the same reason. Merkinsmum 15:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- This all seems a bit confused (but see my note under "Place of Worship" above). Certainly, Parthenos (ancient Greek παρθένος 'virgin') is an epithet applied to several goddesses, but especially Athena. Athene was an exception on Olympus because of her absolute chastity: She had no consort and no children. The Lesser Merlin (talk) 12:41, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Image copyright problem with Image:AthenaAlanpainting.jpg
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Other Images of Athena by Pheidias
[edit]Why no mention here of other images of Athena (the Lemnian Athena and the Athena Promachos) by Pheidias? Surely this would be relevant and useful? The Lesser Merlin (talk) 12:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
saint seiya
[edit]this particular statue is one of the most iconic images in the saint seiya series, why not include this in the trivia? i cant write so i wouldnt know how to properly put it.KRISHANKO (talk) 06:51, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Athena Parthenos
[edit]What happened to the statue? Was it never again mentioned after the 10th century, A. D.? Valentineldj214 (talk) 15:13, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Lost how?
[edit]The article indicates that the statue is lost, and that "An account mentions it in Constantinople in the 10th century."
Can we say anything at all about when it was lost (and where, and how), beyond "sometime during or after the 10th century"?
Karl gregory jones (talk) 17:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
athena parthenos in heroes of olympus
[edit]Just wondering, where can i mention its existence in the heroes of olympus series? Hannlol123 (talk) 06:16, 26 May 2020 (UTC)