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The result was withdrawn by nominator. Non-admin closure. SYSS Mouse (talk) 22:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1982 Bijon Setu massacre

The entire article is dependent on three sources. The identity of the persons responsible is vague. The motive behind the murder is vague. If this is a notable massacre, it certainly should have significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. But this lacks WP:RS. Thus this particular incident fails WP:N. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I completed this nomination based on a request by Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk · contribs) on my talk page. I have no knowledge of this subject and no opinion on this deletion request. — Bellhalla (talk) 11:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC) )[reply]
Keep. 17 people got killed, that's a notable event. I'm not that impressed by the lack of significant coverage in English-language reliable sources about an event that occurred in Bijon Setu, Calcutta, in 1982. --brew crewer (yada, yada) 15:13, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: 17 people got killed - that is not notable per WP:N. See Wikipedia:N#General_notability_guideline. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 15:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How about 18? Would 18 be okay? I know some people in India, and I think I can make this work. Mandsford (talk) 16:03, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There is some significant coverage in reliable sources to establish some notability and would note one external link in the article says 'reading the pages of the news papers that widely covered the massacre after it occurred'. Given that I doubt there are many Indian newspapers from 1982 freely available on the internet I think the coverage found is pretty good. Davewild (talk) 16:10, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep:I have expanded the article with reliable sources. Though I wasn't acquainted with the massacre I did find it to be notable after some research. This shows the changes I have made after afd nom. KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 17:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is an important article on an important event in West bengal history. Sindhian (talk) 16:44, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination withdrawn Withdrawing nomination per the improvement done by KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk · contribs). When I AfDed the article, that version had little evidence to prove notability. But after the massive rework by KnowledgeHegemonyPart2, I think notability have been established. KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 have done excellent job in the article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 18:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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+The result was withdrawn by nominator. Non-admin closure. [[User:SYSS Mouse|SYSS Mouse]] ([[User talk:SYSS Mouse|talk]]) 22:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
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-The entire article is dependent on three sources. The identity of the persons responsible is vague. The motive behind the murder is vague. If this is a notable massacre, it certainly should have significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. But this lacks [[WP:RS]]. Thus this particular incident fails [[WP:N]]. '''[[User:Otolemur crassicaudatus|<font color="002bb8">Otolemur crassicaudatus</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Otolemur crassicaudatus|talk]]) 12:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
+<s>The entire article is dependent on three sources. The identity of the persons responsible is vague. The motive behind the murder is vague. If this is a notable massacre, it certainly should have significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. But this lacks [[WP:RS]]. Thus this particular incident fails [[WP:N]]. '''[[User:Otolemur crassicaudatus|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Otolemur crassicaudatus</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Otolemur crassicaudatus|talk]]) 12:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)</s>
 * '''Comment''' I completed this nomination based on a request by {{User|Otolemur crassicaudatus}} on my [[User talk:Bellhalla|talk page]]. I have no knowledge of this subject and no opinion on this deletion request.&nbsp;— [[User:Bellhalla|Bellhalla]] ([[User talk:Bellhalla|talk]]) 11:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC) )
 *'''Keep'''. 17 people got killed, that's a notable event. I'm not that impressed by the lack of significant coverage in English-language reliable sources about an event that occurred in [[Bijon Setu, Calcutta]], in 1982. --''[[User:Brewcrewer|<span style="font family:Arial;color:green">brew</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Brewcrewer|<span style="font-family:Arial;color:#2E82F4">crewer</span>]] [[User talk:Brewcrewer|(yada, yada)]]'' 15:13, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
-:'''Comment:''' ''17 people got killed'' - that is not notable per [[WP:N]]. See [[Wikipedia:N#General_notability_guideline]]. '''[[User:Otolemur crassicaudatus|<font color="002bb8">Otolemur crassicaudatus</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Otolemur crassicaudatus|talk]]) 15:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
+:'''Comment:''' ''17 people got killed'' - that is not notable per [[WP:N]]. See [[Wikipedia:N#General_notability_guideline]]. '''[[User:Otolemur crassicaudatus|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Otolemur crassicaudatus</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Otolemur crassicaudatus|talk]]) 15:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 *How about 18?  Would 18 be okay?  I know some people in India, and I think I can make this work. [[User:Mandsford|Mandsford]] ([[User talk:Mandsford|talk]]) 16:03, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 *'''Keep''' There is some significant coverage in reliable sources to establish some notability and would note one external link in the article says 'reading the pages of the news papers that widely covered the massacre after it occurred'. Given that I doubt there are many Indian newspapers from 1982 freely available on the internet I think the coverage found is pretty good. [[User:Davewild|Davewild]] ([[User talk:Davewild|talk]]) 16:10, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''':I have expanded the article with reliable sources. Though I wasn't acquainted with the massacre I did find it to be notable after some research. [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=1982_Bijon_Setu_massacre&oldid=223577339 This] shows the changes I have made after [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=1982_Bijon_Setu_massacre&oldid=223498895the afd nom]. '''[[User:KnowledgeHegemonyPart2|KnowledgeHegemony]]'''[[User talk:KnowledgeHegemonyPart2|Part2]] 17:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
-*'''Keep''':I have expanded the article with reliable sources.{{unsigned|KnowledgeHegemonyPart2}}
 *'''Keep''' This is an important article on an important event in West bengal history. [[User:Sindhian|Sindhian]] ([[User talk:Sindhian|talk]]) 16:44, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
+'''Nomination withdrawn''' Withdrawing nomination per the improvement done by {{user|KnowledgeHegemonyPart2}}. When I AfDed the article, [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=1982_Bijon_Setu_massacre&oldid=223498895 that version] had little evidence to prove notability. But after the massive rework by KnowledgeHegemonyPart2, I think notability have been established. KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 have done excellent job in the article. '''[[User:Otolemur crassicaudatus|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Otolemur crassicaudatus</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Otolemur crassicaudatus|talk]]) 18:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
+*<small>'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/India|list of India-related deletion discussions]].  </small> <small>-- [[User:Fabrictramp|<span style="color:#960018;font-family:comic sans ms;">Fabrictramp</span>]] | [[User talk:Fabrictramp|<span style="color:#960018;font-family:Papyrus;">talk to me</span>]] 22:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)</small>
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