Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Golaghat Gymkhana

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Golaghat#Places of interest. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 08:18, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Golaghat Gymkhana

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Non-notable club. Virtually zero hits on the search engines (except to the club's own website, and a single trivial mention on Books). Current sourcing consists solely of the trivial mention. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:40, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Oppose because Wikipedia is not based on # of search engine hits. The page has been updated with sources and it shows that the place has been mentioned in various travel journals, including this artcile in The Telegraph (an Indian national broadsheet newspaper). The current page in its structure is a credible Wikipedia article. AnjanBorah (talk) 01:40, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

• Delete as clear A7 and G11 material and it's clear this is a miseuse of our policies as advertising, any article that cares to mention "amenities and services for people" is advertising. SwisterTwister talk 03:35, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep as the material in its present form contains objective facts - all citing sources thus, cannot be ruled as advertising! It may be improved further, but I had edited the page to keep it neutral as much as possible. Sorry, but the page informs about a historical building that has been featured in national newspapers, so advertising claim doesn't hold true. Only one line about a few of the facilities and that is again with sources, so that doesn't suggest or emphasise any pleasantness or attractiveness of the place or amenities and services for people. AnjanBorah (talk) 14:11, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

• Additional source, one of them is this article in Himal Southasian published by the not-for-profit The Southasia Trust from Nepal. Not advertising, as clearly the points cite sources. AnjanBorah (talk) 04:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 11:02, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

• Delete. Not notable. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:48, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist ^{(Speak quickly)} _{(Follow my trail)} 23:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist ^{(Speak quickly)} _{(Follow my trail)} 23:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

• Keep based on the sources - particularly, the substantial The Telegraph article, recorded entry to the travel portals (additional sources), besides the mention in the book Quit India Movement In Assam to pass WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. Rex86 (talk) 02:46, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

• Strong delete. Wikipedia is not a travel guide or free advertising. One Telegraph article is totally inadequate. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:20, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
• Delete: Seems like a non-notable travel-industry business. Toddst1 (talk) 04:59, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
• The rationale behind the proposed deletion isn't justified as the page is about a historic building estd. in 1910, that is commemorated as a heritage site by the citizens of that region. Similar articles on other Gymkhanas are in Wikipedia with a few to no newspaper sources that had passed WP:GNG and WP:NCORP norms in the past, thus, Golaghat Gymkhana doesn't seem to be an exception. E.g., Karachi Gymkhana (with just one source, the official website), Bengal Club (no reference at all), Lahore Gymkhana Club (with 1 newspaper source, and the reference to the official website), Bangalore Club (with no newspaper sources, just includes the official website, in addition to a book reference), Calcutta Club (with 1 newspaper source and the reference to the official website), Madras Club (with 2 book references), Hindu Gymkhana Karachi (with 2 book references), Gymkhana Club, Chennai (with 1 newspaper source and 2 references to the websites, one being the official website of the club), Jamalpur Gymkhana (with no newspaper sources, and only references are the club's 2 official websites along with another supporting website) to name a few...

• The page was initially tagged as a promotional material without proper due diligence, that was wrong to begin with, and then was reverted as I had revised the content by citing sources where possible. Later, the speedy deletion tag was again reinstated by another admin - SwisterTwister without any rationale just because the page had "speedy deletion" tagged initially, so it was a wrong review again. As promotion can't be reinforced because the page cites sources, the original reviewer comes back stating it as a non-notable topic, which isn't justified as when compared to a few other Gymkhana pages, Karachi Gymkhana in particular, Golaghat Gymkhana lists this The Telegraph article (a national broadsheet newspaper with a daily circulation of 4 million plus, much higher than the most of the Pakistani newspaper sources), sufficiently affirming that the place is notable, even though it is not located in a major metropolitan region of India; in addition to a book source. Another thing to be noted here is that the topics related to bigger cities or metropolitan regions would always have more print and electronic media coverage, so to expect premier newspapers to cover Golaghat (Assam) topics isn't fully justified, esp., in a developing economy where print and electronic media are still evolving and struggling to cover a broad spectrum of India topics, and have a long way to go. If Karachi being the biggest business centre and an important metropolitan region in Pakistan hasn't been able to attract newspaper houses to write about Karachi Gymkhana (which is historic place), let alone Golaghat. Thus, I standby by my proposition to qualify this article to be in Wikipedia because it about a heritage site in a small tea town that has successfully managed to attract newspaper sources, unlike metropolitan counterparts like Karachi that has the Gymkhana article without relevant sources. AnjanBorah (talk) 01:59, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
• Delete - Article doesn't seem to establish notability. Sources primarily consist of travel articles or about a previous gymkhana of the same name. Nothing in sources establish the building where club is located as historic or a Heritage site. CBS527^Talk 01:43, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
• Redirect to Golaghat#Places_of_Interest. Doesn't appear to be notable. Not sure if this can be merged in the state/format that article is in. Adam9007 (talk) 01:47, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
• Delete as spam; purely promotional article, thus WP:PROMO applies. K.e.coffman (talk) 07:13, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

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