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The result was '''merge and redirect to [[Food contaminants]]'''. Probably doesn't deserve its own article, but at least deserves a mention. '''[[User:Sr13|Sr]][[User talk:Sr13|13]]''' 00:49, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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I created this article and don't think it should be deleted as it documents a real and widespread phenomenon. It is referenced as well. Despite this it was tagged as patent nonsense. I say '''keep'''. [[User:Onthaveanaccountcreateone|Onthaveanaccountcreateone]] 08:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
I created this article and don't think it should be deleted as it documents a real and widespread phenomenon. It is referenced as well. Despite this it was tagged as patent nonsense. I say '''keep'''. [[User:Onthaveanaccountcreateone|Onthaveanaccountcreateone]] 08:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*:<s>'''Comment'''Tthe article was replaced by [[User:Woggy]] with a redirect to another article. Those considering the AFD can view the original article at [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Hair_in_food&diff=prev&oldid=146337472]. I have asked Woggy to undo the preemptory redirect for the duration of the AFD. [[User:Edison|Edison]] 22:41, 22 July 2007 (UTC)</s> Redirect was undone by [[User:Tvoz]]. Thanks. [[User:Edison|Edison]] 23:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' Although the subject may sound silly, It is capable of been expanded. A suggestion to you is to expand the article or try and improve it. But i think it should be kept (for now) ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 08:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
*'''Keep''' or '''Merge''' Although the subject may sound silly, It is capable of been expanded. A suggestion to you is to expand the article or try and improve it. But i think it should be kept (for now) or merged into an article similiar to this one. ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 08:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
*'''Delete''' Fails [[WP:NOTE]]. Are there grass-roots campaigns demanding food be inspected for hair? Do newspapers publish editorials about this phenomenon? What's next? [[Dirt in food]]? [[Overcooked meals]]? Those are "real and widespread" too. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] 08:53, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Fails [[WP:NOTE]]. Are there grass-roots campaigns demanding food be inspected for hair? Do newspapers publish editorials about this phenomenon? What's next? [[Dirt in food]]? [[Overcooked meals]]? Those are "real and widespread" too. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] 08:53, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Look at these google results''' - [http://www.google.ro/search?hl=ro&q=%22hair+in+food%22&meta= lots of sources for hair in food].--[[User:Onthaveanaccountcreateone|Onthaveanaccountcreateone]] 08:58, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Look at these google results''' - [http://www.google.ro/search?hl=ro&q=%22hair+in+food%22&meta= lots of sources for hair in food].--[[User:Onthaveanaccountcreateone|Onthaveanaccountcreateone]] 08:58, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' A string of google results for a phrase does not (necessarily) confer notability. Following on from [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend's]] comment above, Google also produces pages of results for the equally non-noteworthy [http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-US&q=%22overcooked+meals%22&meta= Overcooked meals] • [[User:KirkEnd|<font color="#FF6600">nancy</font>]] • 09:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' A string of google results for a phrase does not (necessarily) confer notability. Following on from [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend's]] comment above, Google also produces pages of results for the equally non-noteworthy [http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-US&q=%22overcooked+meals%22&meta= Overcooked meals] • [[User:KirkEnd|<span style="color:#FF6600;">nancy</span>]] • 09:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*There are 11 references. This is surely noteable.--[[User:Onthaveanaccountcreateone|Onthaveanaccountcreateone]] 09:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*There are 11 references. This is surely noteable.--[[User:Onthaveanaccountcreateone|Onthaveanaccountcreateone]] 09:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


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**'''Comment'''. So you're advocating articles about [[cleaning chemicals in food]], [[medications in food]], [[personal items in food]] (pens, jewelry, combs, etc.), [[tools, nuts, bolts and other equipment-repair items in food]], [[sneezing into food]], and [[coughing into food]] - all of which are listed along with hair in the ''Food Quality'' article? [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] 10:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
**'''Comment'''. So you're advocating articles about [[cleaning chemicals in food]], [[medications in food]], [[personal items in food]] (pens, jewelry, combs, etc.), [[tools, nuts, bolts and other equipment-repair items in food]], [[sneezing into food]], and [[coughing into food]] - all of which are listed along with hair in the ''Food Quality'' article? [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] 10:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' [[WP:WAX]]. I don't think that my not understanding the hate for this article is deserving of sarcasm. It simply seems like a legitimate topic. There's [[food contamination]] but a) that's focused mainly on packaged food and b) the topic before us is covered in health terms, in mitigation, and in legislation terms. Sue me, [[WP:ILIKEIT|I found it interesting]]. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 11:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' [[WP:WAX]]. I don't think that my not understanding the hate for this article is deserving of sarcasm. It simply seems like a legitimate topic. There's [[food contamination]] but a) that's focused mainly on packaged food and b) the topic before us is covered in health terms, in mitigation, and in legislation terms. Sue me, [[WP:ILIKEIT|I found it interesting]]. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 11:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
****'''Comment'''. Are you saying that I'm not making a valid point? Each of the potential articles I listed is, if anything, ''more'' important and encyclopedic than this one. My response may have been [[adulterated]] by a small pinch of sarcasm, but it has still been certified 100% safe for Wikipedia consumption. I can see it being briefly mentioned in [[food contamination]], along with a 1001 other things, but it doesn't merit a whole article by itself IMO. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] 17:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

**'''Comment'''. This article could be merged into another article about health. ([[User:172.200.22.239|172.200.22.239]] 10:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
**'''Comment'''. This article could be merged into another article about health. ([[User:172.200.22.239|172.200.22.239]] 10:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
*'''Delete''' - patent nonsense. I can search any term in google, so can I write article based on that facts? Nope, it fails [[WP:NOTE]]. &mdash; [[User:Indon|Indon]] ([[User_talk:Indon |<font color="green">reply</font>]]) &mdash; 10:43, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - patent nonsense. I can search any term in google, so can I write article based on that facts? Nope, it fails [[WP:NOTE]]. &mdash; [[User:Indon|Indon]] ([[User_talk:Indon |<span style="color:green;">reply</span>]]) &mdash; 10:43, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*It's not patent nonsense. Patent nonsense is things like "aeiaey9w-9t" and "I watched a rabbit have fun playing with red socks from the top of the hill while I was stoned today, it is good, no?".-[[User:Onthaveanaccountcreateone|Onthaveanaccountcreateone]] 11:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*It's not patent nonsense. Patent nonsense is things like "aeiaey9w-9t" and "I watched a rabbit have fun playing with red socks from the top of the hill while I was stoned today, it is good, no?".-[[User:Onthaveanaccountcreateone|Onthaveanaccountcreateone]] 11:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


**'''Comment''' I don't think this article should be deleted, But by the looks of it, It probably will be deleted. Like i said before, This article could be [[merged]] into another article about health. ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 11:15, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
**'''Comment''' I don't think this article should be deleted, But by the looks of it, It probably will be deleted. Like i said before, This article could be [[merged]] into another article about health. ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 11:15, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
*It's not about a term, it's about a subject. For example the term "several layers" is not subject but would return google results, this is a subject on the other hand. People saying delete should take note, I thought Wikipedia welcomed new encyclopedia articles on proper subjects that are widely known and have sources.-[[User:Onthaveanaccountcreateone|Onthaveanaccountcreateone]] 11:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*It's not about a term, it's about a subject. For example the term "several layers" is not subject but would return google results, this is a subject on the other hand. People saying delete should take note, I thought Wikipedia welcomed new encyclopedia articles on proper subjects that are widely known and have sources.-[[User:Onthaveanaccountcreateone|Onthaveanaccountcreateone]] 11:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Man, people worry about the wrong things. Have you seen [[:Category:Food safety|all the other crap]] that goes into food? ''<font color="#000066">'''[[User:Infrangible|~ Infrangible]]'''</font>'' 14:41, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Man, people worry about the wrong things. Have you seen [[:Category:Food safety|all the other crap]] that goes into food? ''[[User:Infrangible|<b style="color:#000066;">~ Infrangible</b>]]'' 14:41, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' seriously... is this a joke? I mean just read it... any article that starts with " Many people consider..." should never haver made it past NP patrol. Build a bonfire and burn this crap. [[User:MartinDK|MartinDK]] 15:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' seriously... is this a joke? I mean just read it... any article that starts with " Many people consider..." should never haver made it past NP patrol. Build a bonfire and burn this crap. [[User:MartinDK|MartinDK]] 15:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' This Article is not crap. You shouldn't call a users article crap. If you think its crap, Then keep that to yourself Martin DK. You have probably created a crap article sometime in wikipedia. ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 16:05, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
***'''Comment''' This from someone who made [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Diamond_and_Pearl&diff=prev&oldid=145476158 this] edit? Aaaaaand let's not forget [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Denmark&diff=prev&oldid=145628464 this] fantastic edit by the creator of the article. I'm calling [[WP:DUCK]] here. [[User:MartinDK|MartinDK]] 16:10, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

***'''Comment''' That was just silly and i regret doing that. By the way Martin DK you shouldn't stick your nose into other peoples buisiness. ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 16:19, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
*'''Delete''' Could this be CSD-ed per db-nonsense? [[User:Corpx|Corpx]] 16:23, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
:*I guess not - in that case delete per only trivial mentions in those articles [[User:Corpx|Corpx]] 16:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' Patent nonsense? Are you serious? It's an article about a legitimate, established issue in food safety. If it happens often enough that the commies have been able to get laws passed for it, then it's certainly deserving of an article here. [[User:Kmweber|Kurt Weber]] 16:29, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is not patent nonsense at all. It should not be deleted. ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 16:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
*'''Delete''' per nom. --[[User:Agamemnon2|Agamemnon2]] 16:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Wow, did you even notice that the nominator wanted to ''keep'' this article? [[WP:PERNOM]] indeed. Oh, sweet irony... [[User:DHowell|DHowell]] 00:14, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Why do you think this article should be deleted? ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 16:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
*'''Delete''' I wouldn't go so far as to call it patent nonsense, but it's definitely unencyclopedic. Maybe reasonable as a section of a larger article on food contamination, not an article all its own. [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - <b><span style="color:#FF0000;">St</span><span style="color:#FF5500;">ar</span><span style="color:#FF8000;">bli</span><span style="color:#FFC000;">nd</span></b> 16:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Why do you think its not enclyclopedic? I think its an ok article, But it should be expanded and improved. ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 16:53, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
*'''Delete''' or '''merge''' with [[Food contaminants]] - doesn't deserve its own article. --&nbsp;'''[[User:M2Ys4U|M2Ys4U]]''' <sup>([[User talk:M2Ys4U|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]])</sup> 17:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It would be much better if it was merged with [[Food contaminants]] ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 17:23, 22 July 2007 (UTC))
*'''Delete''' This is trivia.--[[User:Ytrottier|Yannick]] 17:29, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' I think this should be kept or merged but not deleted. I disagree with it been deleted. ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 17:35, 22 July 2007 (UTC))

I have made it a redirect to [[Food contaminants]]. The user could include some of this information there. ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 17:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC))

*'''Merge''' to [[Food contaminants]]. The references about hair in food can add to that article. Food service workers have long worn hair nets because hair is easily detectable and objectionable in food. But it is better to have one article than separate articles for "Hair in food" (30,000 Google hits), "Shit in food" (10700 Ghits), "Urine in food" (6940 Ghits), "Semen in food" (960 Ghits), "Insect parts in food" (886 Ghits), "Insects in food" (636 Ghits), "condoms in food" (7 Ghits), "Snot in food" (3 Ghits), and "severed finger in food" (3 Ghits). There should not have been a redirect in the midst of an AFD. [[User:Edison|Edison]] 22:50, 22 July 2007 (UTC)



*'''NOTE''': Article was prematurely redirected elsewhere; I removed the redirect so that editors can evaluate the article for the purposes of this AfD. <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 22:56, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' to [[Food contaminants]] and redirect. That would be a more suitable location. [[User:Tony Fox|Tony Fox]] <small>[[User_talk:Tony Fox|(arf!)]] [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Tony Fox|review?]]</small> 23:46, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Strong Delete''' - do we need an article for [[candle on computer]]? [[Eyeglasses on bookshelf]]? Is this the start point for [[List of substances that are (within Western Culture) not supposed to be in food, in food]]? Does that mean we'll have articles for [[dirt in food]]? [[glass in food]]? [[Dirty glass in food]]? Or is "hair" the key point of this article? Should there be [[hair on floor]], [[hair in shower drain]], [[hair on back-order]]? This whole "debate" reeks of [[WP:POINT]], and I imagine it's a call for [[WP:IAR|sensible action]]. Leaving this article in will lead us down a slippery slope, and at the bottom of that slippery slope is [[hair in food in popular culture]] (I'll leave it to another editor to work on a [[Cheddar cheese|popular culture]]-focused pun ;)) --[[User:Action Jackson IV|Action Jackson IV]] 00:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' to [[Food contaminants]] and redirect. There's no end to the possibilities for crap, critters, objects and foreign substances if they all have their own articles. '''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:Acroterion|<span style="color:black;">Acroterion</span>]] <sub><small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<span style="color:gray;">(talk)</span>]]</small></sub></span>''' 01:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' for the same reasons as above [[User:GWatson|<span style="color:Green;">GWatson</span>]] &#149; [[User_talk:GWatson|<sup><small>TALK</small></sup>]] 04:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - this is not article material and it is not notable. There is nothing more to say than just that, hair in food; of course, if we are talking blond hair in food we might have need of the article. --[[User:Storm Rider|Storm Rider]] [[User talk:Storm Rider|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 05:06, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Just because the subject is silly, It doesn't mean it should be deleted. ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 06:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC))
*'''Merge''' per above. '''[[User:Reinis|Reinis]]'''<sup>[[User_talk:Reinis|talk]]</sup> 06:50, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per [[User:Kmweber|Kurt Weber]]. Best, --<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;">[[User:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles|<span style="color:#009">Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles</span>]]</span><sup>''[[User talk:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles|Tally-ho!]]''</sup> 15:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', now 16 references, folks! And there aren't even 16 sentences in this article! If it is badly written, then improve it! "Many people consider..." seems to me to be a valid paraphrase of "''most consumers find the presence of 'any' visible filth contaminant such as hair in a food product objectionable,''" a quote from the first reference listed. If you don't think "hair in food" is a notable topic, then at least '''merge''' this into [[Food contaminants]], [[Food safety]], or [[Food and cooking hygiene]]. [[User:DHowell|DHowell]] 00:01, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


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*'''Comment''' This Article is not crap. You shouldn't call a users article crap. If you think its crap, Then keep that to yourself Martin DK ([[User:Woggy|Woggy]] 16:05, 22 July 2007 (UTC))

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