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The result was '''no consensus'''. &ndash;[[User:Juliancolton|Juliancolton]] [[User talk:Juliancolton|<sup style="color:#666660;">'''T'''ropical</sup>]] [[Special:contributions/Juliancolton|<sup style="color:#666660;">'''C'''yclone</sup>]] 01:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
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:{{la|ILLmacuLate}} (<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:ILLmacuLate|wpReason={{urlencode: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ILLmacuLate]]}}&action=delete}} delete]</span>) – <includeonly>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ILLmacuLate|View AfD]])</includeonly><noinclude>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2008 October 5#{{anchorencode:ILLmacuLate}}|View log]])</noinclude>
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Fails WP:MUSIC, no evidence of non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications. [[User:JBsupreme|JBsupreme]] ([[User talk:JBsupreme|talk]]) 06:31, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Fails WP:MUSIC, no evidence of non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications. [[User:JBsupreme|JBsupreme]] ([[User talk:JBsupreme|talk]]) 06:31, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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*Oh my oh my. The nominator deleted content from this article prior to making this nomination, content that helps to establish notability. I've restored it, and added a bunch of sources, enough to establish [[WP:GNG]] notability. '''Keep'''. <font face="Comic sans MS">[[User:Paul Erik|Paul Erik]]</font> <small><sup><font color="Blue">[[User_talk:Paul Erik|(talk)]]</font><font color="Green">[[Special:Contributions/Paul Erik|(contribs)]]</font></sup></small> 21:19, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
*Oh my oh my. The nominator deleted content from this article prior to making this nomination, content that helps to establish notability. I've restored it, and added a bunch of sources, enough to establish [[WP:GNG]] notability. '''Keep'''. [[User:Paul Erik|<span style="font-family:Comic sans MS;">Paul Erik</span>]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Paul Erik|<span style="color:blue;">(talk)</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Paul Erik|<span style="color:green;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup></small> 21:19, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
*'''Weak keep''' - As far as I can tell he ''just'' meets one of the [[WP:MUSIC]] requirements for notability: "Has won or placed in a major music competition." I'm not sure if the Scribble Jam competition is truly "major", but I guess it'll do. (Changed from 'delete per nom') <font color="#8080ff">[[User_talk:Strikeout_Sister|<b><i><s>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;SIS</s></i></b>]]</font>&nbsp; 21:35, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
*'''Weak keep''' - As far as I can tell he ''just'' meets one of the [[WP:MUSIC]] requirements for notability: "Has won or placed in a major music competition." I'm not sure if the Scribble Jam competition is truly "major", but I guess it'll do. (Changed from 'delete per nom') [[User_talk:Strikeout_Sister|<b style="color:#8080ff;"><i><s>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;SIS</s></i></b>]]&nbsp; 21:35, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:* I was thinking that he meets [[WP:MUSIC]] criterion #1, which is [[WP:GNG]]. There's a rather detailed article about him in ''[[The Portland Mercury]]'', and non-trivial mentions in several newspapers including the ''[[Chicago Tribune]]''. <font face="Comic sans MS">[[User:Paul Erik|Paul Erik]]</font> <small><sup><font color="Blue">[[User_talk:Paul Erik|(talk)]]</font><font color="Green">[[Special:Contributions/Paul Erik|(contribs)]]</font></sup></small> 21:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:* I was thinking that he meets [[WP:MUSIC]] criterion #1, which is [[WP:GNG]]. There's a rather detailed article about him in ''[[The Portland Mercury]]'', and non-trivial mentions in several newspapers including the ''[[Chicago Tribune]]''. [[User:Paul Erik|<span style="font-family:Comic sans MS;">Paul Erik</span>]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Paul Erik|<span style="color:blue;">(talk)</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Paul Erik|<span style="color:green;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup></small> 21:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::*The Chicago Tribune ref appears to write about the entire festival, not so much about the rapper, but I have no way to check that. The Portland Mercury looked a bit too local and "bloggy" to me. While winning the 2004 competition was beyond ''any'' doubt. So I went for the one requirement I was sure of. <font color="#8080ff">[[User_talk:Strikeout_Sister|<b><i><s>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;SIS</s></i></b>]]</font>&nbsp; 22:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::*The Chicago Tribune ref appears to write about the entire festival, not so much about the rapper, but I have no way to check that. The Portland Mercury looked a bit too local and "bloggy" to me. While winning the 2004 competition was beyond ''any'' doubt. So I went for the one requirement I was sure of. [[User_talk:Strikeout_Sister|<b style="color:#8080ff;"><i><s>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;SIS</s></i></b>]]&nbsp; 22:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
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* '''Weak delete'''. I don't see how winning a minor award or being mentioned in a trivial contest quite qualifies. Still, it's marginal. [[User:Xihr|<span style="color: white; background: black; font-weight: bold; padding: 1px;">&nbsp;Xihr&nbsp;</span>]] 04:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
* '''Weak delete'''. I don't see how winning a minor award or being mentioned in a trivial contest quite qualifies. Still, it's marginal. [[User:Xihr|<span style="color: white; background: black; font-weight: bold; padding: 1px;">&nbsp;Xihr&nbsp;</span>]] 04:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:* Right, if it were an award that was never mentioned in any newspapers, I would agree. But his winning [[Scribble Jam]] got him a mention in ''[[The Register-Guard]]'', the ''[[Columbus Dispatch]]'', the ''[[Dayton Daily News]]'', and the ''[[Chicago Tribune]]''. His winning the World Rap Championships is mentioned in ''[[The Portland Mercury]]'' and ''The Register-Guard'' (separately from the previous mention). He is also mentioned in ''[[Vibe (magazine)|Vibe]]'' magazine. This is why I was arguing based solely on "[[WP:GNG|significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject]]". <font face="Comic sans MS">[[User:Paul Erik|Paul Erik]]</font> <small><sup><font color="Blue">[[User_talk:Paul Erik|(talk)]]</font><font color="Green">[[Special:Contributions/Paul Erik|(contribs)]]</font></sup></small> 22:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:* Right, if it were an award that was never mentioned in any newspapers, I would agree. But his winning [[Scribble Jam]] got him a mention in ''[[The Register-Guard]]'', the ''[[Columbus Dispatch]]'', the ''[[Dayton Daily News]]'', and the ''[[Chicago Tribune]]''. His winning the World Rap Championships is mentioned in ''[[The Portland Mercury]]'' and ''The Register-Guard'' (separately from the previous mention). He is also mentioned in ''[[Vibe (magazine)|Vibe]]'' magazine. This is why I was arguing based solely on "[[WP:GNG|significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject]]". [[User:Paul Erik|<span style="font-family:Comic sans MS;">Paul Erik</span>]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Paul Erik|<span style="color:blue;">(talk)</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Paul Erik|<span style="color:green;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup></small> 22:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

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