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The result was '''delete'''; any coverage is based on [[WP:ONEEVENT]]. There is agreement that it would be appropriate to mention this person/event within another article, if a suitable such article exists (which seems questionable at best). If such an addition is made to another article, I don't think there would be any problem with using this title as a redirect to that article. [[User:Rlendog|Rlendog]] ([[User talk:Rlendog|talk]]) 16:15, 15 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:'''Keep'''. Completely covered by world wide press. Highly unusual with home experimentation at this level with nuclear processes. And similar to [[David Hahn]]. [[User:Electron9|Electron9]] ([[User talk:Electron9|talk]]) 10:22, 8 August 2011 (UTC) |
:'''Keep'''. Completely covered by world wide press. Highly unusual with home experimentation at this level with nuclear processes. And similar to [[David Hahn]]. [[User:Electron9|Electron9]] ([[User talk:Electron9|talk]]) 10:22, 8 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::Sheesh. Check [[WP:ONEEVENT]]. And... really... You think this is encyclopediae-worthy? That's not even mentioning the current, and likely future, BLP concerns. [[User:Dendlai|Dendlai]] ([[User talk:Dendlai|talk]]) 10:29, 8 August 2011 (UTC) |
::Sheesh. Check [[WP:ONEEVENT]]. And... really... You think this is encyclopediae-worthy? That's not even mentioning the current, and likely future, BLP concerns. [[User:Dendlai|Dendlai]] ([[User talk:Dendlai|talk]]) 10:29, 8 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Sheesh, now only ~350 people per day reads the article. I guess it's completely uninteresting.. [[User:Electron9|Electron9]] ([[User talk:Electron9|talk]]) 03:06, 15 August 2011 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep'''. One event, sure, but that guideline specifically refers to whether you cover an individual separately, or only as part of a greater article. In this case, there is no greater article. It may be appropriate to morph the article into something more general and rename it, but given this was a somewhat unusual event I don't know you could generalise it. Regardless, that would be a cleanup issue; deletion does not seem to be the way to go. [[User:RichardOSmith|RichardOSmith]] ([[User talk:RichardOSmith|talk]]) 10:49, 8 August 2011 (UTC) |
* '''Keep'''. One event, sure, but that guideline specifically refers to whether you cover an individual separately, or only as part of a greater article. In this case, there is no greater article. It may be appropriate to morph the article into something more general and rename it, but given this was a somewhat unusual event I don't know you could generalise it. Regardless, that would be a cleanup issue; deletion does not seem to be the way to go. [[User:RichardOSmith|RichardOSmith]] ([[User talk:RichardOSmith|talk]]) 10:49, 8 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:There is no greater article because it was a very tiny event; a curiousity. Hence why it is so non-notable.[[User:Dendlai|Dendlai]] ([[User talk:Dendlai|talk]]) 10:54, 8 August 2011 (UTC) |
:There is no greater article because it was a very tiny event; a curiousity. Hence why it is so non-notable.[[User:Dendlai|Dendlai]] ([[User talk:Dendlai|talk]]) 10:54, 8 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:: But the extent of the international coverage it received suggests it is notable. So my only concern is how best to include it; I think there is no doubt that we should. [[User:RichardOSmith|RichardOSmith]] ([[User talk:RichardOSmith|talk]]) 13:03, 8 August 2011 (UTC) |
:: But the extent of the international coverage it received suggests it is notable. So my only concern is how best to include it; I think there is no doubt that we should. [[User:RichardOSmith|RichardOSmith]] ([[User talk:RichardOSmith|talk]]) 13:03, 8 August 2011 (UTC) |
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⚫ | *'''Delete''' - One event with no lasting impact, no damage (collateral or otherwise), and no victims. Subject not notable for any other reason either. --<span style="outline:1px dotted #d1bfa4;"><span style="color:#ffffff;">|</span> [[User:Uncle Milty|<span style="color:#000051;">'''Uncle Milty'''</span>]] | [[User talk:Uncle Milty|<span style="color:#005c00;">talk</span>]] <span style="color:#ffffff;">|</span></span> 11:21, 8 August 2011 (UTC) |
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⚫ | *'''Delete''' - One event with no lasting impact, no damage (collateral or otherwise), and no victims. Subject not notable for any other reason either. --<span style="outline:1px dotted #d1bfa4;">< |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Technology|list of Technology-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>— [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 15:16, 8 August 2011 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/People|list of People-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>— [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 15:16, 8 August 2011 (UTC)</small> |
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:: WP:NOTNEWS says "For example, routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia". I fail to see how that covers this case. Further more, articles such as [http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/10/obsessive-hobby-atom-split-kitchen this one] are now analysing the event and putting it into historical context - this goes beyond mere news reporting. [[User:RichardOSmith|RichardOSmith]] ([[User talk:RichardOSmith|talk]]) 22:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC) |
:: WP:NOTNEWS says "For example, routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia". I fail to see how that covers this case. Further more, articles such as [http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/10/obsessive-hobby-atom-split-kitchen this one] are now analysing the event and putting it into historical context - this goes beyond mere news reporting. [[User:RichardOSmith|RichardOSmith]] ([[User talk:RichardOSmith|talk]]) 22:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC) |
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* '''Delete''' If something has actually happened, like he blew himself or others up accidentally or something to that effect, then there would probably be a case for keeping the article. (Though it would probably need to be an article on the incident and not the person). But nothing happened. Nothing at all. He was arrested, end of story. There's nothing encyclopedic here. |
* '''Delete''' If something has actually happened, like he blew himself or others up accidentally or something to that effect, then there would probably be a case for keeping the article. (Though it would probably need to be an article on the incident and not the person). But nothing happened. Nothing at all. He was arrested, end of story. There's nothing encyclopedic here. [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 00:38, 9 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:P.S. There might be another article where a sentence or two would be appropriate on the subject, considering the news it did get. But that's it. Not sure what article would be appropriate though. |
:P.S. There might be another article where a sentence or two would be appropriate on the subject, considering the news it did get. But that's it. Not sure what article would be appropriate though. [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 00:39, 9 August 2011 (UTC) |
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*:Interesting. Perhaps we need a single notability guideline for [[WP:N (reactor building people)]]. [[User:Tarc|Tarc]] ([[User talk:Tarc|talk]]) 01:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC) |
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