Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tamer Hosny

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The result was Keep. Eluchil404 (talk) 04:25, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Tamer Hosny

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I first speedied this because notability was asserted but not indicated (no reference). Another editor turned down the speedy and added one reference, so I'm bringing this here.

Now, the main problem with this article is that nearly every claim it makes is uncited, and there are no references except for one. I did a Google search for "Tamer Hosny" and nothing came up in the first ten pages. Of course, given the amount of youtube clips and fan groups, I'm guessing there are plenty of Egyptian-language sources; there just aren't any english ones. So in this state it fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 17:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete as per everything nom has said... have to agree. --Pmedema (talk) 18:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. I think we can take the combination of the Arab News description of him as a "celebrated Arab pop singer" and the number of google hits above and here as pretty strong evidence of notability. Please also note the language of Egypt is Arabic, not Egyptian. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep certainly seems notable in a large part of 'Arab World'. Gets very few english language google news hits, but if you put in his arabic name you get a fair few. We must try to avoid systemic bias whenever possible. RMHED (talk) 23:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not biased; I'm just saying, unless we have an Arabic editor, how do we prove that those Arabic sources are notable? Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 04:35, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Comment. Referring to WP:BIAS is in no way an accusation that you are personally biased. Let's make an effort to get some Arabic-reading editors involved. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Comment I was asked to take a look at the sources, and I do warn that I'm not all that great at Arabic. From what I can conjecture, he seems to be notable, but you'll need a better Arabic speaker to be sure. I can tell you that about half of what's in his English Wikipedia entry is absent from his Arabic one, which means that it's unsourced material. I will leave a rough translation of the Arabic Wikipedia entry on the talk page for this AfD. Cheers, CP 19:06, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Comment Again Reading his Wikipedia article (the translation of the main part is now on the talk page for this AfD) I do believe him to be notable. Cheers, CP 19:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that CP. RMHED (talk) 00:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Egypt-related deletion discussions. —Phil Bridger (talk) 08:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. —Phil Bridger (talk) 08:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
• Strong Keep Tamer Hosny is very notable and has several significant reliable sources.--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 15:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
• Very strong keep He is only like one of the top three pop artists and most famous in Egypt. I'm shocked anyone would consider this for deletion. Egyegy (talk) 21:30, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

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