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The result was '''keep'''. -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 11:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC) |
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===[[Taral Wayne]]=== |
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Claims notability through multiple redlink awards and Hugo nominations. I have been unable to verify any of the Hugo award nominations, nor can I find any reliable secondary sources that discuss him or his work in any detail. Article was tagged for notability over a year ago, and has only 9 edits in the past two years. <span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>, [[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|his otters]] and a clue-bat • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otters want attention]])</sup> 02:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
Claims notability through multiple redlink awards and Hugo nominations. I have been unable to verify any of the Hugo award nominations, nor can I find any reliable secondary sources that discuss him or his work in any detail. Article was tagged for notability over a year ago, and has only 9 edits in the past two years. <span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>, [[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|his otters]] and a clue-bat • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otters want attention]])</sup> 02:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Speedy keep, speedy close.''' Nominator's failure to check the standard reference on the Hugo Awards [http://www.locusmag.com/SFAwards/Db/NomArt41.html#5484] is completely inexplicable, as is his failure to refer to the award's official site [http://www.thehugoawards.org/?s=Taral+Wayne]. Both of the sources are clearly identified and linked in the [[Hugo_Award_for_Best_Fan_Artist#External_links|Wikipedia article on the relevant award]], and indisputably verify the supposedly questionable claims. [[User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|Hullaballoo Wolfowitz]] ([[User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|talk]]) 03:50, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:*I still see absolutely no reliable sources beyond that. It's possible to be nominated for a major award and still fail [[WP:N]], and the very low number of Google hits seems to point to an overall lack of notability. <span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>, [[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|his otters]] and a clue-bat • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otters want attention]])</sup> 04:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:*'''Keep''' I think the key is notability in his field, which he seems to have obtained. here's the citation for one of those awards: http://www.scifiinc.org/rotsler/2008-wayne/; the others are verifiable (I checked). he also seems to have illustrated a number of notable works. [[User:VASterling|VASterling]] ([[User talk:VASterling|talk]]) 10:34, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Weak delete''' though the Hugo is a notable award, this person appears to have been nominated only for fan art. [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - <b><span style="color:#FF0000;">St</span><span style="color:#FF5500;">ar</span><span style="color:#FF8000;">bli</span><span style="color:#FFC000;">nd</span></b> 16:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:So? I don't see anywhere on Wikipedia where it says making fan art means you are non-notable, regardless of what you win. [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 22:22, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Weak delete''' as per Starblind. --[[Special:Contributions/89.211.97.159|89.211.97.159]] ([[User talk:89.211.97.159|talk]]) 17:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep''' – Has had significant coverage in ''[[DNA Publications|Science Fiction Chronicle]]'' and in ''[[The Globe and Mail]]''. In the ''Globe'', there's a long article from 1982 that's entirely about him and his work. I've added a few citations, and will add a few more when I have a chance. [[User:Paul Erik|<span style="font-family:Comic sans MS;">Paul Erik</span>]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Paul Erik|<span style="color:blue;">(talk)</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Paul Erik|<span style="color:green;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup></small> 17:46, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Speedy Keep''' as per Hullaballoo Wolfowitz. [[User:Edward321|Edward321]] ([[User talk:Edward321|talk]]) 19:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Visual arts|list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>-- [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 20:11, 19 September 2010 (UTC)</small> |
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*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Science fiction|list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>-- [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 20:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)</small> |
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*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/People|list of People-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>-- [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 20:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Delete''' per Starblind. A minor figure within the world of fan art, the sources found are minimal and do not establish notability. One very old G&M article isn't enough. [[User:Freshacconci|<b><span style="color:#000000;">freshacconci</span></b>]][[User talk:Freshacconci|<b><span style="color:#B22222;"> talk</span><span style="color:#2F4F4F;">talk</span></b>]] 21:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' Easily so. The Hugo, eight times, is more than enough for notability. He fits under #1 of [[WP:ARTIST]], as he is indeed important within the scifi fandom, his "peers". [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 22:22, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' One Hugo nomination is sufficient to establish notability; this artist is notable many times over. Sources are sufficient; the above comments seem to be dismissive of fan art as a genre, but that's simply not our place: if a major award covers it, then the award's nominees are notable. [[User:Jclemens|Jclemens]] ([[User talk:Jclemens|talk]]) 20:27, 23 September 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' Multiple authors, cited, and seems notable enough. <span style="text-shadow:limegreen 0.08em 0.08em 0.08em">[[User:Sven Manguard|<span style="color:black;">Sven Manguard</span>]] <sub style="text-shadow:gold 0.08em 0.08em 0.08em;">[[User talk:Sven Manguard|<b style="color:black;">Talk</b>]]</sub></span> 02:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC) |
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