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Wondering what happens when 'page' IS a namespace

Hi,

I've been looking to import some of the Modules from en.wikipedia to en.wikisource to try and keep pace with the 'latest and greatest' of improvements but I noticed a possible issue I figure I better ask about after studying recent changes (separate /configs in a sub-page) for more popular Modules.

Not that I'm an expert or anything but I see [for the first time?] a lot of stuff like...

-- The value used if the module detects an undefined namespace.
cfg.otherDefault = 'page'

... peppered throughout these new /config holders and am kind of concerned it will screw something up over by us since we actually have a namespace designated as Page: (ns-104 [1]).

What, if any, changes would I / should I make to avoid conflicts with that namespace? TIA. -- George Orwell III (talk) 04:23, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Ah. Yes, that will almost certainly screw something up. I take it you are talking about Module:Namespace detect, Module:Category handler, and Module:Pagetype? For Category handler and Pagetype you can just set the parameter to a value other than "page" - it will work as long as it is not a namespace name in lower case. For Namespace detect, you can do the same thing, but it will also require me removing the default argument name of "page". In that module you can specify new argument names, but there is also a default which is always available, and that default will cause bugs if it is also a namespace name. Thanks for letting me know about this. I wonder if there is a list of all namespaces used on WMF wikis lying around somewhere? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:08, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I've fixed Module:Namespace detect so that the default parameter name is "demopage", and "page" is an option used on this wiki. So for en.wikisource you can just comment that option out, or choose a different name. By the way, for cfg.otherDefault in Module:Pagetype, "page" will work fine as it is an output value and not a parameter name. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:47, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Well I was just thinking about the NS-detect Module alone until it dawned on me there are other Modules it can/should call upon (you have to realize; "we" are so not Lua-literate @ en.WS that it has reached the point where stuff is getting crippled from being left behind).

I just imported s:Module:Pagetype & Co. (can't think of a localized equivalent so I guess we never had it? -weird). Only 96 failures! I'll have to go through line by line and find "substitute" targets in the relevant namespaces I guess? Any help would be appreciated -- George Orwell III (talk) 05:47, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

You don't need to import the test cases - quite a few of those tests rely on certain pages being redirects, etc., so you're bound to get failures. That's pretty much the only way there is to test all of the features properly. I don't know of a way to make the test cases work automatically on other wikis, and seeing as the development is probably going to happen here, trying to localise the test cases seems like a waste of time. That said, if you do notice any bugs that aren't in the test cases on enwiki, leave me a message and I will add them to the test cases here if possible, or feel free to add them yourself if you're comfortable doing so. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Can you drop Module:Toolbar to template-protection? Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:08, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, no can do - it has a few transclusions in MediaWiki space. I wrote an update in Module:Toolbar/sandbox a few days ago, by the way. I'm planning to update that, Module:UserLinks and Template:User all in one go, probably some time today, as a few people have said that they want Template:User to be substitutable. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 03:03, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Is that still a valid reason for full protection? I requested Template:Submit an edit request/core be raised from template to full protection for this reason, and HJ Mitchell declined it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:18, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, maybe I'm misremembering things. I had a quick search through Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Template editor user right, but I only saw objection to editing in MediaWiki space from Jc37. Personally, I think that template-protecting templates and modules that just happen to be used on a few MediaWiki namespace pages is ok, but that we should full-protect templates that are expressly for putting in MediaWiki messages, like Template:Protected page text. I'd want to ask others' advice before lowering the protection on anything transcluded in MediaWiki space, though. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 16:19, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Would it not make more sense to substitute templates on interface pages so that we don't have to shut out non-admins where it can be avoided? Anyway, the bar for getting template editor rights is quite high, so I'd be comfortable with your method of only protecting if the template is explicitly intended for use on interface pages. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:58, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Substituting templates like that would lead to a lot of code duplication, which I don't really like. I don't really care one way or the other whether they should be template- or full-protected, just that some consistent standard is followed. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:48, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Template-related dispute

Can I ask you to look at a template-related dispute as a neutral third party? Discussion is at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2014_March_14#Template:Location_map_all, Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2014_March_15#Template:Location_map_quick, Template_talk:Location_map#Location_map_templates_deleted, and User_talk:Jackmcbarn#Stop_edit-warring_over_map_templates. Thanks, Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:49, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

I should probably call it a night for now, but I'll try and look into this tomorrow if I have time. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 17:53, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks spam

Dear mentor RexxS and new friend Mr Stradivarius, please be the first to get your compliments and flower bouquets here in recognition of valuable assistance! (Feel free improve code also HINT.) darwin^fish 19:22, 7 April 2014 (UTC).

Why thank you Darwinfish, much obliged. I took the opportunity to convert the page to Module:Random while gazing at all of those lovely flowers as well. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:28, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Reece Leonard ban on Artpop

Stradivarius, as one of the admins who imposed this ban on Reece Leonard (talk · contribs), I think you might wanna be aware of this scenario. —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 17:03, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Reece Leonard sock

Take a look at this. Quack quack. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 23:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

I see the IP has been blocked. Next time, this kind of thing would be better off at SPI. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:07, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

File Upload Wizard

Hi, could you help me on this? If you want to ask me, drop a note here. Thanks. --Anton^Talk 02:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi AntanO. Sorry, but I'm not a JavaScript coder, and I also have a lot of Lua projects on the go, so I don't think I can help you. Have you tried asking at WP:VPT? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:06, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I try there. --Anton^Talk 05:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for removing the BLP violation of statement by Pritish Nandy in the article Mufaddal Saifuddin. I would request same from the Article 53rd Syedna succession controversy (Dawoodi Bohra). I have reverted, but it keeps getting inserted.In fact I would request to analyze this article because it relies heavily on single source for information ( progressive dawoodi bohra ) and the article is written is based on single POV.Rukn950 (talk) 16:35, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Rukn950. If you'd like the page to be protected, then you should ask at WP:RFPP. Otherwise, a good place to request other editors' opinions would be the BLP noticeboard, or perhaps the dispute resolution noticeboard. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 18:11, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Administrator

Hello Sir,
I wanna ask you that, How to become an administrator on Wikepedia?? Thank you --ASR Roshan (talk) 11:52, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

To become an administrator you need to make a request for adminship (RfA). Please see Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship for the details. You need a lot more editing experience on Wikipedia before you will be ready, though. Also, I imagine that many editors would oppose an RfA because of your English level. In my experience, RfA candidates need an English level equivalent to at least an 850 score on the TOEIC test. Hope this helps. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 15:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Google newspapers

At Template_talk:Find_sources#Google_News_search_is_completely_useless you said "I've removed the Google News link. If we can find a way to make it return meaningful results in the future, we can add it back in." Well, Google newspaper exist now to take its place. http://news.google.com/newspapers So please add that back in. Dream Focus 21:48, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Actually, that existed before, and it is not really a direct replacement. It is useful, though, and deserves a link code in {{find sources multi}}, but I'd want to get a consensus before adding that link to the standard {{find sources}} template. It doesn't look like many people have noticed your message on the template talk page - perhaps you could advertise that discussion in a few places to see what other people think? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 15:15, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

User:ASR Roshan

User:ASR Roshan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Sir,
I want to make my User Page a Semi-protected, i want your most help for that.
Hopfully--ASR Roshan (talk) 13:13, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank You

@ASR Roshan: If I do that, you won't be able to edit your user page for another two days, as you are not yet autoconfirmed. To become autoconfirmed, you need to make ten edits and to wait four days after registering. Do you still want me to semi-protect your user page? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 13:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Very Thank You for your response

I will try to be autoconfirmed, and after inform you about this matter.

Thank You

--ASR Roshan (talk) 14:15, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello sir Glad to see you again,

Now can i make a request to You to make my User Page Semi-protected. Waiting for your Kind Response, Help me sir pleas..

Hopefully--ASR Roshan (talk) 13:13, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank You

Ok, I've semi-protected your user page for you. For other protection requests, please go to WP:RFPP. Happy editing! — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 18:08, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank You So Much sir.....

I will be allways Kind To You, Thank You --ASR Roshan (talk) 14:16, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello Sir, Nice to see you here again
Can You Make my Userpage Edit protected!! Please Sir help me...

Thank You, Hopefully--ASR Roshan (talk) 12:55, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Sir Once again a question...

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Feedback

How to add a feedback (bio) on google search about our article as i added a image here... Thank You --ASR Roshan (talk) 14:14, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello ASR Roshan. I have made your user page edit protected. To be clear, I have made it semi-protected. As for your other question, sorry, but would you mind asking at the help desk? Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 15:25, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Ping

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template_talk%3AInfobox&diff=604099178&oldid=603405936

...with apologies for not acknowledging your input sooner. Sardanaphalus (talk) 02:37, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit removal

Hi Mr. Stradivarius,

I like your username, as my both my parent-in-laws are violin makers from the school of Cremona, Italy, where Stradivarius is from.

Anyway, I am contacting you about the edits I made to the Teaching English as a Foreign Language pages that you have removed. I am also an English teacher, like yourself, but I live in Taiwan. The external link I am attaching to the page is a valuable resource of information about the TEFL industry, as well as the opportunities available. I understand the guidelines of external links in Wikipedia, and that you feel it is an inappropriate link for an encyclopedia. However, the people searching this pages are looking into the English teaching world and a link to an organization that provides an excellent and reliable service in helping people realize those dreams is hardly inappropriate to place on this page. I sincerely apologize if you still disagree, but I hope you understand my logic and reasoning for trying to help point people in the right direction, as I wish someone had done for me when I first became an ESL teacher.

Best regards,

TaiwanEFLTeacher — Preceding unsigned comment added by TaiwanEFLTeacher (talk • contribs) 01:53, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for the username compliment. :) About the link, the problem is that the site you linked is offering paid TEFL courses, and if Wikipedia links to them it implies that Wikipedia is endorsing the courses. However, Wikipedia is not an advertising service. This kind of link is routinely removed from articles, and that isn't likely to change in the near future, no matter how useful the link may be for new teachers. We accept links to commercial organisations if they are the subject of the article, but that isn't the case here, so I'm afraid that the link can't stay. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:40, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Request for RFA nomination

Hi Mr. Stradivarius, I'm wondering if you could review my edits and see if I have the qualifications to be an admin. Any questions you have for me, I'm more than willing to answer! Thank you! LADY LOTUS • TALK 18:54, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Lady Lotus. :) I made an initial review of your edits, and everything is looking good so far. I'll probably only have time to look more in-depth on Monday, though. In the meantime, would you be willing to opt in to the edit counter so that it is easier for me (and for others) to review what you've done? Best — Mr. Stradivarius on tour ^{♪ talk ♪} 19:24, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Of course! Do I need to do something or just agree to it? LADY LOTUS • TALK 20:10, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Yep, you need to create User:Lady Lotus/EditCounterOptIn.js to opt in on this wiki, or alternatively you can create m:User:Lady Lotus/EditCounterOptIn.js to opt in on all wikis. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 01:25, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

@Lady Lotus: any chance you could opt in soon? :) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 16:03, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I created a page of all the wikis this morning :) LADY LOTUS • TALK 19:49, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

@Lady Lotus: Sorry, I gave you the wrong link. That's the local opt-in page for Meta, so you are now opted in for Meta but at no other wikis. The global one is at m:User:Lady Lotus/EditCounterGlobalOptIn.js - would you mind creating that one as well? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:17, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Done! :) LADY LOTUS • TALK 14:43, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I've had a look through your edits. First off, the good news - your content work looks excellent. I'm impressed with your work on getting Tom Hiddleston to GA, and also with your copy-editing skills. I certainly can't see anyone opposing an RfA on content creation grounds. Now the not-so-good news. Recent comments like this one are pretty much guaranteed to sink an RfA. You need to show that you can keep cool in disputes and that you can take the moral high ground, so I recommend that you work on that before you run. Also, people might oppose because you have a relatively low level of administrative work. I see good work at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Fairyspit, and you are on the right track with your work at AfD. It would be good to see you branch out into non-film-related AfD discussions, as if you are thinking of working at AfD in an administrative capacity, there are a lot of guidelines and precedents in other topic areas that you will need to be aware of. Also, I'm worried that you seem a little too eager to delete articles. That generally does not go down with commeters at RfA, so I recommend that you get into the habit of thinking whether an article could be merged or redirected somewhere else before nominating it. And also, I'd like to see you comment on more AfDs that other people have nominated, as that can often better show how you interpret the deletion guidelines. For film AfDs, you might find the following links helpful: Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Film and Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Actors and filmmakers. I also recommend just going through the daily AfD logs and commenting on random discussions to get experience in AfDs in other subject areas. To sum up: as you might have guessed by this point, I'm not willing to nominate you for an RfA just yet. However, you have the potential to be a great candidate, so I recommend that you work on your weaker areas and come back in a few months. Let me know if you have any questions about any of the points I've raised here, and I'll be happy to answer them. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 16:12, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much for taking the time to review my edits and give me an honest answer. I will try to comment more in AfD discussions. What other low level of administrative work would you recommend? I admit that that comment was probably not the best, but I tried to alleviate the situation by asking an author on flickr if they could change the license for use on Offerman's wikipedia page. I figured that might take away the dispute altogether and it did. But I see what you're saying. LADY LOTUS • TALK 19:46, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) What administrative work you want to do now really depends on what administrative work you would want to do as an administrator. I've said that you should take part in more AfDs as I'm assuming that you would want to work there in an administrative capacity. If you would want to do something else as an administrator, though, then it isn't so important. The main thing is that you know how to do the admin tasks that you want to do - you don't have to know how to do all the admin tasks just to become an administrator. (However, you do need a broad knowledge of Wikipedia policy.) So I think you should choose one or two admin tasks that you like, and do those. And if you want a specific recommendation, the nice folks at Wikipedia:Copyright problems are always looking for new volunteers. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:54, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok thank you, and per your recommendation, I've already started being more involved in AfD discussions. :) LADY LOTUS • TALK 13:02, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Module:ISO 639 name and Module:Language/text

I've finally got around to working on these -- I'd appreciate your feedback. If there's anywhere else I could post for feedback, do let me know (I tried the wikiproject last time, but I don't think I got any responses). Cheers — lfdder 16:28, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

I'll have a look at it when I next get a chance. The WikiProject is your best bet, as all the Lua-savvy people hang out there. Wikipedia:Lua requests is probably the most-watched of all the project pages, so I'd try that one. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 16:39, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

ta. I've given an overview of these modules here. — lfdder 22:15, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

@Lfdder: Ok, I've given the code a quick look-over. I'm not yet sure of all the ins and outs, but here are my initial impressions:

The code needs commenting. There are quite a few parts where I can understand the code mechanics but I'm not sure why you've chosen to do certain things. Comments really help to relate the purpose of the code, and the decisions you made as you implemented it. It's good to get into the habit of commenting all of your functions to say what they do, and any part of your code which might not be easily understandable to a casual observer.
Avoid giving the args table a global scope. Giving it a global scope means that you increase the area of code that needs to be considered at any one time to the entire module. Keeping the args table as a local variable to each function means that you can consider each function as an independent unit, which makes debugging easier. It also makes it possible to write unit tests for each of your functions, rather than for the whole module. Take a look at Module:Documentation/testcases for an example where I've written test cases for individual functions. It's pretty hard to find things to break in that module that won't be detected by the test cases.
Most modules use tabs for indentation now that CodeEditor has been switched to use them by default. It's probably best to switch to tabs now before the modules get widely deployed. I see that you have a mixture of tabs and spaces in some places - that's probably where you've added new code using CodeEditor since the indentation behaviour was altered.
You could make your modules easier to understand by assigning more things to local variables. For example, there's a part in Module:Language/text that goes like this:

    return 
        tostring(
        	mw.html.create(args.type)
            	:attr("lang", data[args.code] and data[args.code][2] or args.code)
            	:wikitext(args.text .. __categorise())
        )

This is hard to understand because you have a lot of statements in a small space, and because it isn't obvious what some of the statements do. You could make it easier to understand like this:

	local langCode = args.code
	local langName = data[langCode] and data[langCode][2] or langCode
	local text = args.text .. __categorise()
	local tag = args.type
	tag = mw.html.create(tag)
	tag
		:attr("lang", langName)
		:wikitext(text)
	return tostring(tag)

Assigning a meaningful variable name to the relevant parts of the code helps a lot, particularly for langName, as it's not obvious we are finding a language name when we only have the names args.code and data to go on. It would be even easier to understand with comments. Also, doing this way has the advantage that the code fits into 80 characters, which will display on most monitors without any sideways scrolling.

There are probably other things to say about the code as well, but I'd need to stare at at some more first. Hope this helps for now. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 18:11, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments.

I've been meaning to comment the code -- I've just not got around to it yet. Is there something like Javadoc we use to generate documentation?
Well, I made it a global var (global to the module) 'cause I had to juggle the args between functions. But if it means we can't run unit tests that way, I'll keep them in local scope.
Noted.
'langName' is actually a language code -- it seems that I have -- actually -- managed to confuse you. ;P Codes in the 'wp languages' table that aren't ISO codes and/or invalid language tags carry a valid one in the 2nd element of the 'array' for use in the lang attribute.

— lfdder 18:39, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

help me

助けてください。

私は2005頃から2007頃までja.wikipediaをEDiTER として主に活動していました。ある日突然管理者称する者が私のIDを無期限ブロックして以降今日至るま質問してもろくに返答は得られていません。私のロクインをそに都度ブロックしてきます。そして今日私はやはりJapanese.WikiでEDiTRの権限現のIDで活動できるようにしてください。Than you.

と返信してほしい。--Shitoikabe (talk) 17:10, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

We're the English Wikipedia. We can't affect the Japanese Wikipedia. If you're blocked there, you need to deal with it there. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:18, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Jackmcbarnが言っているとおり、英語版Wikipediaの管理と日本語版Wikipediaの管理が別々で行われているため、残念ながらここから日本語版での投稿ブロックを解除できません。日本語版で解除してもらえなかったらもう打つ手がありません。解除方法は日本語版の者のほうがきっと詳しいのでそこで聞くのがベストだと思います。— Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 17:38, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

TaiwanEFLTeacher

Hello again Mr. Stradivarius,

I apologize if it appears as though my edits are not constructive. However, may I please ask, then, as to why the information I am including on the Teaching of English as a foreign or second language page is being removed because of the external link to a TEFL course provider's "Job Information" page (and not their course sales page) when References #7 and #16 on that very same page are both linked to 2 other TEFL course providers' websites (Cactus TEFL & i-to-i TEFL)...? If they are both allowed to include links in their references when adding very similar information as me, then why are my external links being discriminately removed? Thank you in advance for the clarification.

Best regards,

TaiwanEFLTeacher

You're right, those links are pretty promotional, and need to go. It's alright if a site passes our guidelines on identifying reliable sources, but those sites don't qualify. The best thing would be to replace the sources with citations from academic books or journals, but if those sources can't be found then the links - and the text - need to be removed. Unfortunately, many pages in the TEFL subject area are not very well-curated, and there are a lot of things to clean up. That doesn't mean that it's ok to add new material that violates Wikipedia's content guidelines, though. As well as reading the reliable sources guideline that I linked above, I recommend reading Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view if you haven't done so already. That should help you get a better feel for the actual policies that are in play here. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 12:40, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Mr. Stradivarius

Thank you for the information about WP's guidelines, I will read up on those links to further educate myself in the editing process. However, if I am right, as you said, and those other links I mentioned are considered promotional, as well, then why have they not been removed??? I am still seeing both links listed in the references. I don't understand why you would permit them to be listed on the page another day if they also violate Wikipedia's content guidelines, when my reference was removed within hours of posting it...? Thanks again for your clarification. TaiwanEFLTeacher (talk) 02:04, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:16, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Talk:53rd_Syedna_succession_controversy_(Dawoodi_Bohra)

may please join [2].--Md iet (talk) 07:12, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

It's all too hard. Castlemate (talk) 09:02, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

"Naghmehetaati" filter

The latest sock is named "Naghmehetaate", with an "e" at the end. Incidentally the original appears to be a name, "Naghmeh Etaati". BMK (talk) 20:14, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Maybe I was too quick to archive the ANI thread, then. BMK and Mr. S, please feel free to unarchive if you would like to add anything. Bishonen | talk 21:15, 20 April 2014 (UTC).

I've adjusted the regex in the title blacklist to be a bit more inclusive. If that doesn't work, let me know again, and I will see if I can alter the regex without introducing any false positives. If we start to risk false positives using the account name alone then we might need a full-blown edit filter, but we can think about that when the time comes. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:31, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. BMK (talk) 11:52, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Expressing dismay at being misquoted

You appear to have misread and misunderstood my comments on Talk:Bundy_standoff. I did not make any edits or suggestions relative to the content of this topic. I did, however, attempt to make the discussion more readable by introducing a helpful link. My complaint is that careless editors repeatedly replaced large blocks of text without examining the internals and without preserving previous helpful links. It is not correct for you to say "Megapod wants to keep the word "taser" (and link it)". I did not put in the word Taser, I only upgraded another editor's obscure word choice into a link to another Wikipedia article which explained it. Naive readers of the Bundy article should be informed of the article on Tasers if their curiosity leads them that way.

Earlier versions of the Bundy article also included tasering and tasered, two neologisms which begged for explication. As I implied in my overly polite comment #16 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bundy_standoff#Is_Taser_a_Commonly_Understood_Word_Among_Readers_At_Large.3F the editors who mistook an encyclopedia for a newspaper probably well knew what a Taser was, possibly from bitter personal experience, but their readers might not.

I would also be interested in some feedback on my suggestion about automatically checking any edits which replace entire paragraphs to be sure that all pre-existing internal cross-references and citations are preserved. Perhaps you are not the correct person to address this idea, in which case would you please direct me to the right forum? Megapod (talk) 14:41, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Megapod, and sorry if I misrepresented your intent there. Usually edit requests to reinstate missing links and citations are not controversial, and so usually I will enact these requests straight away. However, in this case there was disagreement about the exact wording to use, so I couldn't enact your request as it stood. So to answer your last question, if you would like edits like these to be fixed, just make an edit request with the required text to be fixed, and as long as the request isn't contested it will usually be enacted. (And by the way, "taser" as a verb is now actually in the Collins World English Dictionary, so "tasering" and "tasered" may not strictly be neologisms any more - not that I'm recommending their use or anything.) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:21, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lfdder (talk • contribs) 20:39, 24 April 2014‎ (UTC)

This would be that incident, since it isn't obvious. Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:34, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!

Just wanted to say "Thanks" for fixing the TfD notification I placed on Template:Rellink. On a related note, I think I may alter some of the instructions on WP:TFD later to prevent that from happening again in the future. Steel1943 (talk) 18:45, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

...or not. Looks like it's already there. Strike one for my wall of shame! :/ Steel1943 (talk) 20:23, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

...wait, no it's not: this template isn't substituted. Time to make some changes... Steel1943 (talk) 20:24, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Templates for discussion#Discussion to add instructions to use "noinclude" tags for highly-visible templates. Hopefully, something such as what I have proposed there can prevent that incident from happening in the future. Steel1943 (talk) 20:53, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Yep, this situation isn't in the instructions. For anything over, say, 50,000 transclusions, I try and ask myself whether adding the tag would benefit our readers. Sometimes it's worth it, sometimes not. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 06:06, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

wrong redirect

ASU Politehnica Timisoara (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
ACS Poli Timișoara (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Why is ASU Politehnica Timisoara page redirected to the page of another club (ACS Poli Timisoara) ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blindmandream (talk • contribs) 16:46, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

That's a very good question. Why don't you fix it? I don't know anything about the clubs involved, so I can't help you with the content side of things. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 16:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

@Blindmandream: I notice that you said that the page was protected. Could you give me a link to the protected page that you want to edit? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 19:24, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I am new to wikipedia so i dont know how to use it very well. My problem is that someone is messing with the history of a club and it's doing his best to spread some false afirmations on wikipedia. can you give me an email where i can explain you better what this guy is doing and to prove that what he is doing it's a fraud? i ask for the email only because, as i told you, it seems i am not managing very well the wikipedia aplications. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blindmandream (talk • contribs) 07:58, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

If you want to do things by email, then see Wikipedia:Contact us. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 08:55, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello again. This page is redirected to a wrong page and i can't change it: https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=ASU_Politehnica_Timi%C5%9Foara&redirect=no — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blindmandream (talk • contribs) 08:55, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Naghmehetaati filter evaded again

Hi, Mr S. I've just blocked Naghme etaaty (talk · contribs). Bishonen | talk 09:25, 25 April 2014 (UTC).

And I've just updated the regex. Let me know if there are any more. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:33, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Module:No globals

Do you think we should make it a best practice to stick

require('Module:No globals')

at the top of all of our Lua modules? I've already found a few errors that otherwise would have went unnoticed by using it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:28, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jackmcbarn: looks like a good idea. Why make exceptions for "name" and "arg" though? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 07:26, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

The exception for name is due to a bug in MediaWiki and can go away next Thursday, but the exception for arg is necessary for the require() function (see [3]). Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:53, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you Strad for nominating Anne for WP:RfA. I was also thinking of it but you did it before I can. Thank you. Jim Carter ^(talk) 12:56, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 13:03, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Adminship

Greetings Mr. Stradivarius! A user has nominated me for adminship. Your name is listed on Wikipedia:Request an RfA nomination and states that your best at reviewing candidates who do new page patrol, AfD work, or template editing, is it possible to review my contributions and be a co-nominator? Best, ///EuroCarGT 01:05, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi EuroCarGT. :) I'll try and have a look later on today. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 06:10, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Alrighty! Best, ///EuroCarGT 20:04, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I've been a bit busier than I expected. It will probably be tomorrow (Sunday) before I get round to this. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 23:19, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

@EuroCarGT: Hmm, this is a tough one. I think you are almost ready, but personally I would wait two or three more months to give yourself a better chance of passing. At the moment, I would support you in an RfA, but I am slightly reluctant to nominate you myself - I have a niggling feeling that you may have a tough time at RfA if you ran right now. Your new page patrol work looks excellent - I couldn't find any problems in any of the deleted edits of yours that I spot-checked. Your AfD work also looks good, although sometimes I did see that you would just give rationales like "fails GNG". It would make a stronger argument to explain why the page doesn't satisfy a given guideline, rather than just quoting a guideline. This is a minor quibble about a solid area of your editing, though.

The two things that made me most reluctant to nominate are the length of time you have been on the site, and your content work. I think 12 months is a number that satisfies most RfA commenters expectations of how long a candidate should have been contributing, and you are now at 10 months of solid contributing, just a whisker below what would make me feel comfortable. Also, I cannot find much detailed content work. I see quite a few stub articles, but not much that goes beyond that. In my experience, most RfA commenters like to see content work that is more substantial. Maybe you could work on getting a few articles accepted for DYK, or maybe even try your hand at writing a Good Article? If you've done that, I think you would have a very good chance of passing an RfA after, say, August. Hope this helps, and let me know if you have any questions at all. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:35, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Good call, I will try improving my content work, possibly trying to get one to GA article status and some DYK's. I've tried to bring this to GA status awhile back but that failed. I think 2 more month will be ideal. Hopefully we'll get to interact more, If I have any questions, I'll stop by and ask you. Best, ///EuroCarGT 15:26, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Changes to zh template

Hi there. I'd be grateful if you would cast your expert eye over this proposal. Many thanks, Philg88 ^♦talk 05:38, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

A couple of things

One, I hope you don't mind me using some of your userpage design on my userpage. Two, I was the user that nominated Euro for adminship. Would you have any advice for me about what I would need to work on to be an admin? (I'm considering running in the next year or two.) Thanks. :) --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 13:50, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

No, feel free to use my page design. :) As for adminship, I think you are on the right track; however, there aren't many commenters at RfA who will support a candidate that has 3,000 edits. These days, 10,000 seems to be the benchmark, although a lot depends on the quality of your individual contributions. Your AfD participation is looking good so far, although I would like to see more detailed rationales (WP:AADD is a good read if you haven't discovered it already). I'd also like to see some more extensive content creation; try submitting a few things for WP:DYK, and I recommend putting all your good content work on your user page, as that makes finding it much easier for me. :) Other than that, keep up the good work, and you'll be ready for RfA before you know it. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:26, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to focus on these things. Thanks! :) --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 14:32, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Motto of the Day Help Request April 2014

Today's motto...

→ Don't cha wish your 'Pedia was free like me?

Nominate one today!

Motto of the Day (WP:MOTD) is in a state of emergency and really needs your help! There are not enough editors who are reviewing or nominating mottos at Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/In review, and this probably means that you will notice a red link or “This space for rent” as our mottos for the next weeks and months.

Please take a moment to review the nominations and nominate your own new mottos at Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/In review and Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/'Specials. Any help would be appreciated! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:13, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

This message has been sent by pjoef on behalf of Motto of the Day to all editors of the English Wikipedia who are showing MOTD's templates on their pages, and to all the participants to MOTD: (page, template, and category).

A barnstar for you!

(Barnstar archived)

Thank you! :D — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 03:45, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your support!

Dear Mr. Stradivarius and The Interior: Thank you very much for nominating me to be an admin. It was a busy week and a little stressful, but a very positive experience to have received so much support. I am about to leave my 3G connection, so that's all I can say for now, except thanks again. —Anne Delong (talk) 18:34, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

You handled the gauntlet very well, Anne. The Interior (Talk) 19:13, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations! I knew you would be a shoo-in. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 21:17, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Hey!

Greetings Mr. Stradivarius! May you delete this, following our previous discussion. I've followed your advice. Regards, ///EuroCarGT 02:00, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Done — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:17, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Strad another RfA

Hi Strad, coming to you again. I want to nominate Philg88 for adminship. Can you please review his contrib and let me know if he can become an successful sysop. Thank you. (Note: Please don't inform Philg, I want to surprise him). Jim Carter ^(talk) 15:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jim Cartar: That's not how it works. If you want to nominate Phig88 for adminship, you need to do the legwork. Doing a proper review of someone's edits takes a good deal of time, and it is easy to miss important details if you aren't thorough. I'll generally only do this for people who ask me to review their own edits, or for people who I am looking to nominate myself. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 10:46, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello again, I have checked his contributions for the last month i.e April and it looked fine. He is a Tirelessly editor, day in, day out, he designs new maps, help with "articles for creation", copyedit articles in need, respond to queries on the China noticeboard, create new wikis (more than 60 articles created) and write DYKs (11 DYKs), two featured article, and some GAs. He is indefatigable, and as such he deserves to become an admin. Now I'm not an admin, so I can't judge in this case, that is why I'm asking you for some help. Should I ask him about his opinion i.e if he will accept this nomination or not? Jim Carter ^(talk) 11:11, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Jim Cartar: You should realize that because you wikilinked to his user page, he probably has already seen this conversation. FWIW, he has a "good" score (over 500) from this tool. Yes, I would just ask him. Your edit just above seems like a good start on a nomination. I'd ask what admin areas he wanted to work on. Wbm1058 (talk) 12:59, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

I guess am not an idiot? Am I? Wbm1058 I know about the notification system and I have used {{noping}} template :) It is good to know that you have also checked. I think he can be a good admin. Thank you and Strad for helping me. Jim Carter ^(talk) 13:09, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Oh my, sorry, I didn't notice that. I learn something every day. I wasn't aware of {{no ping}}. I think it should be moved there as "noping" is not a word. Or, not a word with that meaning: wikt:noping. Again, my apologies. Wbm1058 (talk) 13:27, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Its okay, Wbm1058; a redirect might also work in this case. Or a shotcut such as {{np}} etc. Jim Carter ^(talk) 13:46, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Naghmehetaati: another

Greetings from Naghmeetaty (talk · contribs). I bet you wish you'd never taken it on! Bishonen | talk 09:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC).

Nah, it's not much bother. At a few more iterations we might have to switch to an edit filter though. I've tightened the regex up for now. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 10:41, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Translation help

I was wondering if you could translate some video interviews for me, anyways here is the video:[4]. Please let me know if you could do it or let me know on someone else who can. Unfortunately i got rejected merely because the topic didn't interest him. Anyways, if you could translate this for me, it would be a great help. thank you.

I'm currently having issues with my computer, and can't see videos at the moment, i can't tell if this video is translated or not. if its not, could you translate it for me as well if its no bother? Again, your help is greatly appreciated. Lucia Black (talk) 10:45, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

It's not translated, but he doesn't say anything very interesting in it. He just says that this year he wants to concentrate on writing horror, mentions the Nemuki magazine that he's working on, says that a new "Nemuki+" will be out on 13/04/2013, and says that he's starting work on something called "Ma no Kakera" (魔の断片). That, and he mentions that he's started a family. Nothing really that screams out to be put in a Wikipedia article, unless those new works aren't mentioned anywhere else. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 11:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC):::

both videos? oh well thats a shame. thanks anyways. appreciate the help. Lucia Black (talk) 21:11, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Cooley Law School

Wait, so an uneducated editor who teaches English in Japan has more authority than Paul Campos (Michigan Law Grad and Tenured Constitional Law Professor at Colorado Law School) and Elie Mystal (Harvard Law Grad and Executive Editor of Above the Law)?

Interesting. . . . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bthekuta (talk • contribs) 17:49, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

@Bthekuta: I take it you are the IP editor that was adding the negative material to the Thomas M. Cooley Law School article? Actually, there's nothing wrong with adding negative material to the article, as long as it is compatible with the neutral point of view policy. Going for a no-holds-barred, Cooley-is-the-worst approach is never going to be acceptable, and adding a dozen references to something non-neutral doesn't make it neutral. You need to stick to the neutrality policy, and go to the talk page to agree on what to include and how it should be worded. (And as for being "uneducated", let's just say that I went to a better school than Cooley.) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 03:22, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Okay you win. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bthekuta (talk • contribs) 01:16, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

The test failed

Can you take a look at Module_talk:Category_handler/testcases? It seems that there are some unexpected results. Thank you. --Nullzero (talk) 14:56, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Yep, the module is outputting the blank string instead of the more Lua-like nil. I've been planning to get round to updating that module for a while, but haven't found the time just yet. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 21:29, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

ANI Notice

I've started a new thread regarding Pmaster12 whom we both encountered a few months ago. Here's the link.

Regards -- The Writer 2.0 ^Talk 00:10, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

What's going here is there a problem? Pmaster12 (talk) 02:12, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Is there something I did wrong? Pmaster12 (talk) 02:12, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Localization

Hi, it looks like you are the main author of the portal module, so I think it would be easy to you make some changes. I wanted to import the module to Latvian Wikipedia, but we have diffrent system, as we don't have very much portals and the syntax is a liitle bit different. I created such data page:

'Portal name' = 'parameter 1', 'parameter 2', 'parameter 3', 'parameter 4' (optionally)

If it would be template, then its code would be something like this:

[[File:{{{parameter 3}}}|{{{parameter 4}}}]] [[Portāls:{{{parameter 2}}} portāls|{{{parameter 1}}}]]

And for inclusion in article I would write {{portal|<<here goes the portal name (from data module)>>}}.

So, how it looks to You? You can make any changes for the module @lv wiki, you won't ruin anything as it isn't used. --Edgars2007 ^{(talk/contribs)} 09:46, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Oh yes, I wanted to know if the 'Portal name' is case sensitive (it would be nice, if not)? --Edgars2007 ^{(talk/contribs)} 09:47, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Popcorn Time

The provided link at Popcorn-Time.tv under the Discontinuation and rebirth section is no longer valid, after it has been taken down, the project has then moved to http://get-popcorn.com/. Please see an adjusted change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roll2Me (talk • contribs) 18:28, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Undoing an edit

why did you undo an edit of mine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Professor Aren (talk • contribs) 00:08, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

@Professor Aren: Were you editing anonymously, or using another account? What was the account name? What was the article you were editing? Without some more clues I'm afraid I have no way of knowing what edit you are talking about. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 02:53, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

DRN Award

		Dispute Resolution Noticeboard Award, Grade 3
		For being a member of the founding cabal and high quality service at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard. — TransporterMan (TALK) 13:02, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
		This award comes in five grades: Base Grade (no stars, awardable to DRN volunteers or to individuals involved in a dispute) and Grades 1-4 (1-4 stars, respectively, awardable only to DRN volunteers).

Thanks TM! It's nice to know that the non-existent Cabal is still not looking out for me even after all this time since I did any totally-non-Cabal-related things at DRN. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 15:45, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Template Barnstar

(Barnstar archived)

Thank you! I mean, you're welcome. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 07:21, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Mufaddal Saifuddin edit request

Hello. Please see Talk:Mufaddal Saifuddin#Protected edit request on 1 May 2014. Enough time has passed since your last comment on the May 1 request that you might consider if the text proposed by User:Md iet (on May 3, his bullet points are numbered 1, 2, and 3) should go in the article. His proposed addition looks reasonably neutral. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:06, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for taking this on. EdJohnston (talk) 03:07, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Don't worry, I figured someone would have to do it sooner or later. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:46, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Huh?

There's no "persistent vandalism" here. No good reason to have added even Pending Changes - it's so rare for vandalism, and well-looked after by a couple of admins including myself the panda ₯’ 23:31, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Most of the recent edits are either vandalism or vandalism reverts - that seems pretty persistent to me. Although, if you're keeping an eye on it, it can't do any harm to lift the pending changes protection. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 23:36, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Meh...a couple of incidents of vandalism or test edits every week is not the definition of "persistent". If I felt it needed protection, I'd have added it or asked someone to do it the panda ₯’ 23:40, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Well, I was answering User:1966batfan's request at WP:RFPP, so they thought it needed protecting, at least. Maybe they'd like to comment on their reasons for requesting protection here? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 23:46, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

They've never even edited the article! I'd love to know what makes them think it was a) being vandalized, and b) why they felt protection was needed. There's no valid reason to have asked for nor done it the panda ₯’ 23:55, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Well when I see "Reverted edits by IP etc etc" frequently in the recent revisions of a page, its what comes to mind???--1966batfan (talk) 23:54, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Define "frequently". Look at the history of the page...is it happening a half-dozen times per day, day in and day out? That is when you request protection. Not twice a week. the panda ₯’ 23:57, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

That's why I used pending changes. I saw that in general the vandalism was less frequent, but still common, so PC seemed like a good fit. The three days of semi-protection is because there was a recent flurry of vandalism - four vandalistic edits on the 20th, and one on the 21st, and no constructive edits unless you count the reverts. Which is slightly more frequent than twice a week. If you want to change the protection, though, I won't stop you. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 01:02, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

(Barnstar archived)

If you ask, you shall receive, it looks like. :) Thank you very much! — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Lua module: # → §

Hi, MS

I've noticed that people liked my edits that involve use of {{section link}} in article and MOS namespace. (They thanked me on the notification channel.) This edit replaces # with § in links. I was thinking it would have been great if we could expand this to {{Main}} and its siblings.

If it isn't too much to ask, I thought maybe it would be great to develop a Lua solution (or use an existing one) to help. Details as follows.

Extended content

This module must accept to inputs: Link and label. Unless there is a label, the module must scan the link for "#" and if found, add pipe sign (|) clone the link and replace "#" in it with " § ". For example, this:

{{#invoke:Section link|format|link=History of IBM#1969: Antitrust, the Unbundling of software and services}}

...would result in:

History of IBM#1969: Antitrust, the Unbundling of software and services|History of IBM § 1969: Antitrust, the Unbundling of software and services

And the following:

{{#invoke:Section link|format|link=History of IBM#1969: Antitrust, the Unbundling of software and services|label=Something}}

...would result in:

History of IBM#1969: Antitrust, the Unbundling of software and services|Something

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 04:03, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Lisa. :) Would it be alright if the module outputted the double square brackets as well? So we would get [[Foo#Bar|Foo § Bar]] instead of Foo#Bar|Foo § Bar. The reason I ask is that for files and categories you need to use the colon trick to stop the file from displaying or the page from being categorised. However, if the first thing that the module (or a template, or a parser function) outputs is one of the symbols ":" ";" "*" or "#", then MediaWiki adds a new line to the output, which would break the link. See bugzilla:12974 for all of the sordid history of this MediaWiki bug. Other than that, the module should be pretty easy to write. I'll do it later on when I have a little time. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:47, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Ouch! That's one bad bug. I guess your solution is okay. You see, the goal is to make {{Main}}, {{See also}} and their siblings generate correct output in existing articles without making any changes to the input. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 05:26, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, now that I actually look at the code of {{main}} and {{see also}}, I can see that the best solution would be just to port all of them to Lua. Anything that goes like this...

{{#if: {{{1|}}} | ...
{{#if: {{{2|}}} | ...
{{#if: {{{3|}}} | ...

...is almost always faster in Lua, as we can load only the parameters that have been specified in the template invocation, rather than checking all parameters from 1 to n. It will also make the code simpler, as we can just write the if statement once and then use that 15 times, rather than writing 15 if statements. This will take a bit more time to write than the module that you suggested, but the results should be worth it. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 07:34, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, I'd say everyone would love you for doing this; so much so that in fact, I am feeling a tinge of envy down deep.

(That's it; I'm gonna learn Lua the first opportunity!) But I don't suggest tackling the entire Category:Hatnote templates all at once. For the start, {{Main}}, {{See also}}, {{Further}} and {{Details}} would do admirably. (They are very similar.) Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 12:46, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok, Module:Hatnote is now written, and {{Main}}, {{See also}}, {{Further}} and {{Details}} have all been converted and are testable in their sandboxes. See, e.g. Template:Main/testcases for an example. Now we're just waiting for a bug in Module:Arguments to be fixed, which is why you can see the script error on the test cases page at the moment. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 10:16, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Looks like the bug is gone.

I've added one more test case for your perusal. Are we ready to deploy now?

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 18:23, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Actually, I'm wondering if we should split the module up into separate modules for each of main, see also, etc. That will make things more modular in case anyone wants to add new templates, and it will also reduce the load on the job queue if someone wants to update one of them. But after that, yes, it will probably be time to deploy. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:24, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

@Codename Lisa: I've finished doing the conversion. Take a look at Template talk:Hatnote#Conversion to Lua for the pre-conversion discussion, and for links to the other related discussions that I've started. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 17:25, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Solid copy; I'll keep up with the discussions. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 01:43, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi. From where I am standing, the feedback so far has been minor but unanimously positive (although people don't exactly have a place to go and say "Wow! This change in Wikipedia is awesome." But section sign is going into MOS.) How about you? (Are people sending you barnstars yet?)

So, just to get my feet wet: I understand that Module:Hatnote is pretty much what I requested in my original message. Is it correct that I can call "formatLink" function but not "_formatLink" via {{#invoke}}?

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 03:25, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

No, I'm still waiting on the barnstars for that one. :) But just knowing that I've been a small help is reward enough. Do you know of any pages where "#" has been changed to " § ", by the way? As for getting your feet wet, technically you can call both formatLink and _formatLink from #invoke, as they are both contained in the "p" table. However, neither of them will do anything from #invoke directly. _formatLink won't do anything because it isn't passed a frame object, and frame objects are the interface to get parameters to Lua from wikitext. And formatLink won't do anything because it is set to take the arguments from the parent frame of the frame object that it is passed, rather than from the frame object directly. That means that {{#invoke:hatnote|formatLink|Foo}} won't do anything, but {{format hatnote link|Foo}}, which invokes the formatLink function, will. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:47, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Er... I wasn't talking about inline {{#invoke}}. I tried passing frame parameters to both using User:Codename Lisa/sandbox and Template:Template sandbox. (You can still the result of test in my edit history.) But _formatLink always returns script error, though formatLink works.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 06:57, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

P.S. "Do you know of any pages where "#" has been changed to " § ", by the way?"

Oh, yes; lots of. See File Explorer and MOS:LAYOUT for example. Codename Lisa (talk) 07:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Flag of Sweden

I need an admin because the file is protected. Is there another you may suggest? Fry1989 ^eh? 22:13, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

In that case, you can just use a protected edit request on the file's talk page. That will flag down a technical-minded admin to make the edit for you. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 23:26, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Fry1989 ^eh? 00:58, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

complaint/false information

Hi,

     I am a government city development officer(also councilor of the municipality) of Karaikudi municipality in the state of Tamil Nadu of India.

One of the recent edits made by the user "Ssriram mt" in wikipedia about "karaikudi" is absolutely false and against government records. I request you to take required steps to stop giving false informations about that city.

                 I believe that your action will give satisfaction for the users like me. 
                   Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Municipality councilor (talk • contribs) 13:53, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

SPI note

Hello, Mr. Stradivarius. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Reece Leonard.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

He's persistent, I'll give him that. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 14:00, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Steven Beitashour

There's a citation error in Steven Beitashour after your recent edit, I'm hoping you could take a look. Thanks.--Bowser2500 (talk) 00:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Yep, fixed it. Sorry about that... — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 00:48, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

No worries, thanks. Edits have also been made in the sandbox.--Bowser2500 (talk) 01:04, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Module namespace

Hey Strad, hope all is well with you. I am trying to create a new Location Map template and the framework is saying this must be done in the Module namespace. Do I need a Lua wrapper for historic template code or is there something I'm missing here? Many thanks. Best, Philg88 ^♦talk 14:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

It's not a wrapper that you need; since {{location map}} was converted to Module:Location map, the location map templates have become deprecated, and are all in need of being moved to module space. The advantage of putting them in module space is that it's much much much much faster. :) I've not tried to create a location map module myself yet, but I believe Template:Location map/Creating a new map definition has the instructions that you need to follow. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for the blindingly fast response! I shall give it a go and no doubt return if it all goes horribly wrong ... Cheers, Philg88 ^♦talk 15:04, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Worked a treat after I created Module:Location map/data/India Kolkata. Thanks again! Philg88 ^♦talk 08:17, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Mason Bendewald Page Deletion

Hi Mr. Stradivarius.

Requesting an explanation for the deletion of Mason Bendewald's wiki page.

[[5]]

--Johnnyoro (talk) 20:40, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I deleted it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mason Bendewald, because there was a lack of independent third-party source to show that he passes our notability guidelines for biographies. Please also see the quick explanation of notability on Wikipedia to get an overview of the kind of sources we are looking for. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 21:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Out-of-process deletion

This deletion was completely out of process. There was no discussion, and the page doesn't meet any speedy deletion criteria. There is a reason to have the page: without it, I do not get any link to the global contributions tools for registered users on a contributions page.—Kww(talk) 19:50, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

@KWW: If you have your language set to Dutch, you are also missing many other links that are present in the various MediaWiki messages. The messages are only really kept up to date for "en" - even en-GB and en-CA have messages missing, links out-of-date, etc. Try setting your language to English for a while - you'll probably be surprised at how different the experience is. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 21:54, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I know that I get a fairly stripped-down version of the interface by using the Dutch version. You will get a fairly good impression of how much of it I find useful by how little of it I carry over. The .0000376% of it that has merit, I copy over. There's no reason to delete those portions that I do.—Kww(talk) 22:08, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Japanese → English translation

Hello Mr. Stradivarius. My name's Ryoga, and I am here to request your help translating a work in Japanese to English (ref: Wikipedia:Translators_available#Japanese-to-English). The work I would like translated is actually a documentary by NHK. It can be viewed here. Would you be able to translate what the person is saying between 7:48 and 8:48. A friend of mine translated the rest of the video for me, but he said he's having difficulty understanding that particular portion. Thanks in advance and hope it's not too much work! Ryoga (talk) 03:51, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

I can understand all of that but the bit just after 7:48, where she says the name of a person/band/production company which I don't know. I see you've also posted on WT:JAPAN so I've left a message about it there. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 03:03, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I haven't heard of such a company/person too so, hoping someone replies. Ryoga (talk) 03:48, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Stephanie Adams

There's been additional discussion on this article where you recently made an edit, and an edit request posted a week ago regarding the change. Would you mind dropping by again? Thank you. Pkeets (talk) 01:06, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I'll have a look at it later on. I'm thinking of attacking the CAT:EP backlog later today, so I'll probably try and do all of them at once. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 01:16, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

StradBot

may be blocked on sight for running in the unapproved state. Please post something on its userpage to explain why it is running. It is currently spamming my watchlist, and I can't hide it because it is not a legitimate bot. Materialscientist (talk) 08:14, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, I should probably get User:StradBot a bot flag. The edits I made just now were all supervised, though, which I don't think is against the bot policy. Sorry for any alarm I may have caused! — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 08:22, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Also, I've finished editing all the pages I need to - the ones in Category:List templates with deprecated parameters - so you won't see any more edits from the StradBot account for now, at least. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 08:27, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Module:UserLinks

Hey, I'm feeling a little bit of discrimination against admins who didn't pass RfA their first time here. Can you add a option for inputing like "TParis_2" for the end of the RFA link? Thanks :D --v/r - T P 19:07, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, I guess we could add an {{{rfalink}}} parameter or something. There was actually some talk about this last year when the RfA link originally got added to Template:User-multi, but the problem is that it's very hard to pair admins with RfAs automatically. But if people want to be able to specify it manually that probably wouldn't be too bad. Could you suggest that on Template talk:User-multi to see what people think? I'll write up the code if there's a consensus for it. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 02:07, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Much appreciated! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 01:38, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Chamara wijesinghe M.W.A

Dear sir,

I have tried and dreamed to create my Wikipedia page more than 100 times.please help me to create my Wikipedia page.

please help me.Here is my link - User:Chamara wijesinghe M.W.A

yours faithfully,

Chamara wijesinghe. Chamara wijesinghe M.W.A (talk) 16:43, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Chamara. To have a Wikipedia article, you need to satisfy either the notability guidelines for biographies or the notability guidelines for musicians. If you don't meet those guidelines, I'm afraid that you can't have a Wikipedia page. Also, we strongly discourage people from writing their own biographies, as it is very hard to write neutrally. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 21:35, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Editing Article

Hi,

Thank you for accepting my message and I hope you are well.

I left a message over at a page you had worked on, the Microsoft Projects page. I was advised to approach an editor for my query. I feel one of my interviews, with someone at Bing, has very good information that can be used on the Microsoft Cortana page. The interview was cleared by Stefan Weitz, Director of search at Bing.

I know I can not edit the post, it's a conflict of interest and against the guidelines. With that said, I feel it adds value to the article. Maybe you can guide me on what to do?

P.S. Please forgive my ignorance on all things wikipedia :)

Thank you for your time!

Matt

--24.163.108.135 (talk) 05:29, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Dihydrogen monoxide, actions of tendentious editor and sockmaster

Please take a look here. My comment there contains links to evidence. We need to stop this editor who is spreading this nonsense wider and wider. -- Brangifer (talk) 15:15, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

I would let the RfD discussion play out. Hopefully when it is finished we will have a clearer decision on what to do. And if that doesn't work, you might want to try another form of dispute resolution. My recommendation would be WP:DRN. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 15:47, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

MediaWiki interface pages...

I did a couple of them via requesting edits on the talk page, but there are about 40 of them total I have found so far and to do the rest like that, even a few at a time would be disruptive. So, here is the list if you would be so kind as to replace the tags as is best suited:

list of MW pages

I'm sure most of them just have big or center tags that can be either merged into a bold or italic tag or set into their own span tag. Thanks. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 16:25, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

@Technical 13: I've done all of them apart from MediaWiki:RefToolbarLegacy.js and MediaWiki:RefToolbarNoDialogs.js, which I'll leave you to figure out yourself and make edit requests for. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 06:47, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Mr. Stradivarius! I appreciate that and will look into those two scripts which I know make you uncomfortable. :) Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 11:44, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Cdrtools author

Hi.

I undertook a case of tough closure (an RFC in cdrtools) and the situation seems to have slightly spiraled out of my control. Although the original issue is subsided, I think I am going to need the help of a third person with a new issue in User talk:Schily/Archive 6#Cdrtools: Schily claimed he had come under personal attacks and I thought it is worth investigating, given the fact that this article is a troublesome hot spot. As always, I'd be extremely grateful if you accepted the case and you still can say "No". Honestly, I think you might want to say "no" this time. (Make sure you see the diffs of the recently removed edit, if you took the case.)

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 23:23, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I've had a look through the talk page discussion and some of the diffs, and I think that this is the kind of thing that will require more eyes than just mine. I suggest posting at WP:ANI with a neutral description of the background, and a link to User:Schily/Details plus some sample diffs. That should help decide whether administrative action is warranted, whether a checkuser should get involved, etc. Does that sound like a reasonable way forward to you? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 06:59, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

@Codename Lisa: you may want to take these statements with a grain of salt and read the actual diffs. He uses the term "personal attacks" very liberally, e.g. on Talk:Make (software), where he accusses User:Tedickey of the same: [6]. Talk:David Korn [7], Talk:Terminfo [8], Talk:Source_Code_Control_System [9], Talk:Bourne_shell [10]. He also complains about "false claims" at [11], "attacks from people" [12], "attempt to suppress important information" at Terminfo [13] and POV edits at [14]. See also Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Cdrkit where he accuses User:Diego Moya of "unbalanced" editing the same way... "personal attacks" everywhere. Also note that it is a whole bunch of editors he is having such fights with on all of his topics (he has written schily-SCCS, schily-make, schily-shell, Cdrecord, SchilliX) ... - in most of the cases I listed below, I am not at all involved (because I don't know much about treminfo or david korn; but these turned up if you search for "Schily personal attack" in Wikipedia talk)

Please, examine the diffs he provided at User:Schily/Details, I do not see personal attacks in there, but attempts at cleaning up this hot article. The most "personal" thing I have seen was on the lines of "Jörg Schilling disagrees" [with a statement made by Debian]. Thank you. --Chire (talk) 09:14, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

You might well be right; I haven't looked at the diffs closely enough to say one way or the other. But if this disagreement has been going on for some time, and you don't think that you can sort it out between yourselves, it is best to get everything out in the open at ANI rather than letting the pressure build up more. Going to ANI will bring closure to this dispute, and the folks that comment there are usually pretty good at sorting the wheat from the chaff. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:29, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

It has been at ANI before: ANI:User:Schily's personal attacks and biased editing on Cdrtools and other UNIX topics (not me; but initiated by a WP admin) as well as AN3RR:User:Schily reported by User:Chire (Result: Schily blocked; Ekkt0r warned) (this was initiated by me). But this only seems to have further escalated things. My plan was to try to get out of the loop completely (as this has caused me some bad sleep; and I need to focus at work), but the RfC to clean up the article required some attention to get started. Let's see what the outcome of COIN:Cdrkit is; I have the impression it might lead to a wider ban this time. --Chire (talk) 11:14, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

@Chire: Hi. If you look at my initial message in this thread, it reads "Make sure you [=MS] see the diffs of the recently removed edit" meaning that I have seen your original message.

@MS: Thanks. I will see what happens. Fortunately, the RFC issue is resolved and I can bow out. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 12:48, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Location maps - again!!

Hi Strad. Sorry to bother you, but as I consider you the font of all knowledge on module related matters I thought I'd ask the guru. I have made a few location maps now and have had no problems - whoever came up the idea to check for a module before a template is a genius. That aside, do we have a template planned to put on the page of superseded templates - something along the lines of {{Vector version available}}? This would be useful to warn editors that they might be about to update something that is no longer used (I'm thinking new maps etc) then wonder why their changes don't show up in the article space. AFAICT, awareness of modules is extremely low amongst the general editing population. Best Philg88 ^♦talk 05:01, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

That genius would be Jackmcbarn, who wrote Module:Location map. :) I'm not aware of a template for putting on documentation pages, but that sounds like a good idea. We could add it to Template:Location map/Info, which seems to be transcluded onto all location map templates above the documentation. We could also add some code to Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Template to make an edit notice warning editors that the location map templates are deprecated. Why don't you make a template that we can use for those? That would be a good start to letting other editors know about the switch. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:44, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

@Philg88: I don't think any such warning is necessary. Creating new definitions in the old namespace is already prohibited by the titleblacklist, and in the guide I wrote to convert the map templates to modules, the last step is to request that the page (at that point, just a redirect without history) be deleted. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:43, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Jack. My main point here is that editors need to be aware that we are now using modules instead of templates. For example, if I access Template:Location map India Andhra Pradesh, I get a normal edit window, albeit with Lua code instead of the old (and in many cases familiar) template syntax. There is nothing to tell me that template use is now deprecated.

Another example, trying to create Template:Location map Map that doesn't exist gives me a message saying "You can ask for it to be created", which is kind of confusing and explains why I asked Strad what was going on when I first encountered it. Two more clicks are required before I get the message that you mention above. By the same token, taking an experienced editor to AfC when they click the "You can ask for it to be created option" is likely to lead to frustration. Bearing in mind that most people who make maps probably aren't familiar with the software framework, I'd like to see something that tells them earlier on in the process. Cheers, Philg88 ^♦talk 16:18, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure how you get "You can ask for it to be created". When I go [15] (with my alt account that can't bypass the titleblacklist), I get the message at MediaWiki:titleblacklist-custom-location-map that explains exactly what to do. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:22, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Jackmcbarn Try searching for Template:Location map Map that doesn't exist, which may well be how another editor would approach it. (@Strad - apologies for hijacking your talk page :) ) Philg88 ^♦talk 17:22, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I see what's going on now. I've submitted gerrit:140411 which will fix it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:41, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Jackmcbarn, yet more justification for my "genius" comment above. Best, Philg88 ^♦talk 17:50, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Module:NumberSpell

While clicking stuff I stumbled on Module:NumberSpell. FYI there is a kitchen-sink-included version at Module:ConvertNumeric. The latter can handle absurdly large numbers (something called a "millinillion", 10³⁰⁰³!?), US spelling, fractions, and probably more that I can't remember. The docs are woeful. You will see from the history that I arrived after all the work had been done—I adapted it by adding fractions and providing a mechanism for Module:Convert to use it to spell numbers. You will even see from the "languages" box in the sidebar that some wikis have used it, although only a couple have actually translated it for their language (for example, vi:Module:ConvertNumeric). I'm not recommending these be merged or that any action be taken, but I wanted to let you know in case it's news. Johnuniq (talk) 10:09, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Ah yes, I've been meaning to do something about NumberSpell. It's used in another module (I'd have to check which one) but it should be switched to ConvertNumeric and then deleted, because we don't need two modules doing the same thing. Might have a look at that tomorrow. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 10:17, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Unprotected Template talk:!

Hi please could you unprotected Template talk:! this please because the protection is no longer necessary and {{!}} has been put into the core of mediawiki. https://git.wikimedia.org/commitdiff/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/c313a75c801173295c6c8197e0210afc7f2cae7b 92.40.250.87 (talk) 23:49, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Not so fast - it needs to actually be rolled out on Wikipedia before we can unprotect the template. Unprotecting it too soon could cause massive damage. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 00:47, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Also, I see the talk page is semi-protected, but I'd rather not lift that, as I'm sure David Gothberg wasn't joking about the nonsense. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 00:51, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Protection of Hedgehogs in New Zealand

Hi, the "vandalsim" of this page is more a matter of dispute about content with a new editor (the IP who wants to delete material). Despite the nature of the edits, I think they are in fact good faith attempts to remove material they believe is wrong. At present I think the matter is under control, and I hope to invite the editor to add more material to balance the article, rather than deleting material that they disagree with. I'm not sure that I should ask for the protection to be removed yet as the new editor probably doesn't understand that another deletion may lead to them being blocked. But I wonder whether it could be changed to protection for a couple of days with a rationale other than "vandalism" which I think is too harsh a description and may completely discourage this new editor. --Tony Wills (talk) 09:49, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't look far enough back in the edit history to see the IP's constructive edits from April. I agree with you about all the points above, and I've reduced the protection to two days with a summary of "unexplained blanking of content". Best of luck in showing them the ropes. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 10:31, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much for that. Are they able to edit the article talk page? I'll invite them (or you could invite them :-) to discuss their concerns there, a better place than their talk page. --Tony Wills (talk) 10:37, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, they can indeed - the talk page is unprotected. I'd move your posts from the IP's user talk to the article talk page, and leave the IP a note saying to discuss the edits on article talk. Otherwise they might reply on user talk, or if they happen to switch IPs they may miss it altogether. User talk isn't the best venue, as you're less likely to get help from other content editors. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 10:45, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again. --Tony Wills (talk) 10:51, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Uekusa

Oh, that's too clear for us if you read his own article in which the person Uekusa stated that Wikipedia contains various false contents(URL: http://uekusak.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2010/11/post-5ec3.html). And I edited its page and will reedit it until there is no more libels against the person from Wikipedia. You have to notice that who continues the war is not me but the multiple account user. I have to protect Uekusa from any violation of human rights. URL: http://uekusak.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2010/11/post-5ec3.html Ejoe2 (talk) 16:16, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Intimidator 305

Thank you for the suggestion on Intimidator 305. Typically, we don't list the source next to each stat in the infobox, especially since there is a link to RCDB.com at the bottom of the infobox which verifies most, if not all, of the information. However, if the disruptive editing continues after the page protection expires, I will certainly consider making an exception here. Thanks again! --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:11, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

It's true that infoboxes cluttered with references don't look too good. A citation right after the speed is mentioned in the article body might do the trick - why don't you try that? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 16:15, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

I haven't put too much work into this article yet, but that is a good idea. I'll make an effort to clean it up and reposition some of the references when I get a chance. --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:49, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Template:Unbulleted list

Just noticed your update to the paramater names here – thanks – but, so that they follow the pattern used in {{Navbox}}, {{Sidebar}} etc, can the underscores before the "style"s also be removed...? Sardanaphalus (talk) 09:59, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Bleh, that would be a real pain to do. We could add those parameters to the tracking category, but I'd like to wait for the most recent changes to filter through the job queue first. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 11:09, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Understood. Is this something bots could do (or is that where the real pain lies)..? Sardanaphalus (talk) 07:22, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

It couldn't be done by a bot, as bots that only make cosmetic changes are generally not approved. The question is, would it really be worth all of those edits just to get rid of an underscore in a parameter name? If you think it would, it's probably best to ask on the various list template talk pages to see what other editors think about it. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 21:40, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to've lost track of this thread. Parameter names like titlestyle, groupstyle, liststyle, etc, etc – i.e. styling-related names without underscores – seem to be the norm elsewhere, so I thought it would be worth doing for the sake of consistency and future editing (and thus justifiable as more than cosmetic). When I next forget to use the underscore rather than non-underscore names, I'll post a feeler or two among the talk pages you mention. Sardanaphalus (talk) 17:53, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Template:Ombox / Module:Message box

Hello again. I'm not sure whether the answer to the following lies in Module:Message box's Lua code or elsewhere, but thought you'd be able to point me in the right direction.

Here's an {{ombox}}...

Testing, testing, testing.

...and here's the same ombox floated on the right:

Testing, testing, testing.

Can the "collapse" in the width between the two be avoided – and, if so, how? Your advice would be appreciated. Regards, Sardanaphalus (talk) 18:16, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

This is because of the CSS rules in MediaWiki:Common.css. If you want custom behaviour, you might be best building your own box. If you need help, I'd ask at WP:VPT. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 00:32, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Aha, another Common.css thing. I think I'll try {{Sidebox}} instead, otherwise WP:VPT as you suggest. Thanks, Sardanaphalus (talk) 09:01, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Ari Teman

Hello. I went to review the pending changes on the Ari Teman article, but now I see why it's been sitting in the backlog for six hours. There are fifty-three pending changes to the page as of a few minutes ago... I know that I don't want to wade into that edit war, and it seems the other reviewers are just as reluctant. I think the editors of that article may need some enforced time to settle their differences, but I don't think PC protection is appropriate for that article at this time. Ashanda (talk) 03:11, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Huh, it's weird that the editors only started edit-warring after I enabled pending changes... I've semi-protected it for a week. That should put a temporary stop to things, at least. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 03:55, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! As for a long-term solution, having read a few versions of the article, and having done some googling, I have my doubts as to whether this person meets WP:BIO in the first place... Ashanda (talk) 12:49, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Hatnote section separator "§"

I love the new section separator in "see also" link texts, with # → § transformation implemented in Lua. Was that your own idea? -- Tim Starling (talk) 00:41, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

@Tim Starling: No, much as I wish it was. :) That honour goes to User:Codename Lisa. The discussion is here if you want to take a look. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 00:46, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Gender

Thanks for your explanation of the history at MOS talk. Have you seen Harry Ritchie's recently published English for the Natives? Fascinating account of our almost-unconscious grammatical traits as probably experienced by many second-language speakers. I think you'd like it. Tony (talk) 12:42, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

I haven't, but it does sound the kind of thing that I'd like. I'll keep an eye out for it the next time I'm at the bookshop. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 15:33, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Copyvio problem in Adobe Flash Professional

Hi, MS. We have a pretty straightforward case of copyvio needing admin cleanup in Adobe Flash Professional article. Could you please see if the diffs need hiding? All other ends of this business seem to have been taken care of.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 01:15, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Done. Sorry for the slight delay. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 15:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Find sources multi/gnewsrecent

Template:Find sources multi/gnewsrecent has been nominated for merging with Template:Find sources multi/gnews. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 09:26, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

User ArtTenak

Hi Mr. Stradivarius. I see you have protected Ari Teman. I'm asking you to (1) revert the page to before vandal ArtTenak first edited the page (with clearly defamatory, uncited sources, and (2) to then fully protect the page for six months so only admins can edit and (3) to ban ArtTenak. A quick look at the log of the page, and the contributions of ArtTenak (who has been warned already) will show this is some vindictive and biased individual who is spending much of their day attempting to tarnish the reputation of an individual and damage a Wiki page. Thank you. NYClay770 (talk) 15:11, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I've reverted, as the edits were in violation of the biographies of living persons policy. It's too soon to consider full protection or a block of ArtTenak at this stage, though, in my opinion. When it comes to blocking and page protection, we generally try to use the least invasive approach that prevents disruption to articles. If there is more disruption, we may ramp up the countermeasures. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 15:32, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Notice from Technical 13

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Template Editor User:Technical 13. Thank you. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 17:47, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Move proposal: template {RailGauge} into {Track gauge}

I initiated this move proposal in Template talk:RailGauge#Requested move. Please take a look and join if you are interested.

I add: you worked on this way time ago, now it is my practicing area in Lua :-). I just wanted to let you know. -DePiep (talk) 23:28, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

@DePiep: Thanks for letting me know. I don't know very much about railways, so I think I'll leave the debate to people who know their track gauges from their infrastructure gauges. If you want to move the module, though, let me know and I can do when the time comes. I get the nice checkbox which says "move all subpages of this page", which means everything would get moved at the same time. And other admins might not know to update the require statements in the code after the move. And yes, I saw that you were starting to tinker round with the module, and I unwatchlisted it because it looked like you had things under control. Have fun with it! — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 23:41, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, this is just a ping for you. And no, don't bother those sub-moves: Ich will Jesus selbst begraben. I nicely oversee this minor 13k module. I also created a gentle autodocument module, you hinted for about a year ago. (It shows the /data in here). -DePiep (talk) 23:51, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Adding: your "... automatically generate the tables in the documentation" (August, 2013) was the trigger. -DePiep (talk) 00:23, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox person

Hello, on Template:Infobox person, I made sandbox and testcase for a template change. While doing that I also put in an edit request. It was answered=yes but no change to template so I am stuck as to what's next. Some consensus may still be needed but with edit request marked answered, I'm not sure who still looks. It's a criminal BLP tagging issue that I ran across and commenters agree that something should be done but labeling is the question. Please have a look in sandbox and testcase to see. --DHeyward (talk) 11:41, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

@DHeyward: If not many people are active at the template talk page, you might need to advertise the discussion so that you can get enough feedback to judge whether there's a consensus for the edit or not. I would try leaving a note at some of the related WikiProjects. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography seems like a logical place to start. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 11:46, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Okay, but that's not really the issue. I can get consensus that the edit chould be done. I already have the template edit done. How do I get it implemented? I don't want to request unprotection and the edit request was answered (with the edit being endorsed with different choices for labeling an existing data field). I implemented the change so that existing, correct usage of the field is unchanged but pre-adjudicated criminl cases can use the same field number with different tag/label. The current BLP issue is easy enough to fix for that one person so it really comes down to a template implementation choice. Do you think it's still within the Biography project scope or template editors? --DHeyward (talk) 11:56, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

@DHeyward: Once there is a consensus to make the edit, just change the |answered=yes parameter in the edit request template to |answered=no, and that will flag down an editor with the appropriate permissions who can make the edit for you. Both technical editors and article writers may be interested in the edit request; in this case, as the change is visible in articles, and as the structure of the template isn't changed very much, article editors may be more interested. Use your best judgement about who to advertise the discussion to. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 12:04, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker), note there is no consensus for this change currently, and that will have to be achieved before this change can be implemented. There are now two people (including myself) that oppose this change on the talk page. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 13:54, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox/old

You created Template:Infobox/old last year, presumably for testing, do you see any further need for it? -- Netoholic @ 07:51, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Nope, I don't need it any more. I can always use the sandbox if I need to test against the old template code for some reason. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:11, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Oxford Round Table

Dear Sir or Madam,

I saw that my recent edit to the Oxford Round Table page was edited by Nomoskedasiticy, and the page is under protection. I assure you that we are legitimate source and would like to prove it to you if there is a way to do so. Please advise as to providing you verification and information to this end.

For several years, the Oxford Round Table has been underattack by Wikipedia vandals, two pseudonyms in particular known as Nomoskedasticity and Pokey5945. These two individuals, we believe, are separate and distinct individuals who may or may not work together. To make a long story short, the motivations of these two individuals are separate and distinct as well, but they both have in obsession in vendetta against Dr. Kern Alexander and F. King Alexander who are connected to the Oxford Round Table.

The information that these two individuals provide to Wikipedia is biased, inaccurate, devoid of context, and always negative in attacking the company.

The recent edits by me and members of the board of the Oxford Round Table itself were attempts to put a stop to their activities and to correct the information about the Oxford Round Table.

We intend to insert additional accurate information about the Oxford Round Table including its history, membership, and current activities.

Again, we are willing to provide you sources to verify this information, if you could instruct us how to do so.

Thank you for your attention, and we would appreciate it, if you would assist us in doing the right thing. Perhaps, it would be important to point out that the Wikipedia page for the Oxford Round Table has been negatively edited for very long time by Nomoskedasticity and Pokey5945.

Also, please let us know which part of my edit was uncomfortable for you to remove. If it was the controversy/litigation part of the page, we would like to provide you with accurate information about that issue/dispute for which we have the official records and the Court's order. We will await your response, but we would like to edit the page immediately.

Sincerely, Justicentruth_0616 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justicentruth 0616 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 27 June 2014‎ (UTC)

Hello Justicentruth, and thank you for the message. Actually, per our policy on editing with a conflict of interest, you shouldn't be editing the article at all, although you are welcome to take part in discussion on its talk page. You are also welcome to make edit requests to update the article's content. You should also read the verifiability policy and the neutral point of view policy to see what kind of material is expected in the article. Note that the latter policy does not allow unduly positive wording, which is the main reason that your previous contributions were reverted. And if you cannot find agreement with Nomoskedasticity or Pokey5945 on the article's content, you are welcome to try dispute resolution. (By the way, Wikipedia has a strict definition of what vandalism is, and the edits from Nomoskedasticity and Pokey5945 don't qualify, so you should probably avoid the word "vandal".) Let me know if you have any questions about this. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 00:20, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Oxford Round Table part two

Hello, I think my previous e-mail unfortunately did not reach you, so I am leaving a message here. I and my colleagues would like to enter in an arbitration rather than to talk with Nomoskedasticity and Pokey5945.Indeed, the Round Table has maintained a good relationship with University of Oxford and NEVER threatened Ms. Sloane Mahone. Their edits of the article contain some other flawed information as well, and we sincerely believe that it is our job to correct those biased and baseless arguments. To be honest, we do not have any animosity toward the Wikipedia users criticizing the Round Table. However, we cannot tolerate any unfounded criticism. Many academics have contributed to the Oxford Round Table over the years, and ignoring unverifiable criticism of the Round Table and its members undermines their contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justicentruth 0616 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello Justicentruth 0616. I haven't looked into the specifics of your complaints above, but if you want help with your dispute then Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard is the place to get it. Before you file a new case there, though, you should read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, as it will apply to your edits to the article. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:20, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

(Barnstar archived to User:Mr. Stradivarius/Awards)

Thank you very much! — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 01:33, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Nash Grier's Page

Hello, Mr. Stradivarius!

I am messaging you in request of you to accept the changes I made on the Wikipedia page of Nash Grier. Any changes made to that page go under review by you, so I want to make clear to you that I did NOT vandalize that page, but further explain the controversy that is in the air now about Grier.

Thank you for you understanding,

Your fellow Wikipedian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frenchman101 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

@Frenchman101: The page isn't reviewed by me, it's reviewed by users with the reviewer user right. And because you are now autoconfirmed, your edits won't be automatically flagged for review anyway. Of course, other editors can still review your edits the old fashioned way - by simply undoing what you've written. See our content policies for advice on what kind of contribution is less likely to be undone. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 22:02, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Modules for testing wiki

Is there a chance to adding modules automatically to incubator wiki? I want to add modules in English wikipedi to this wiki thank you Ceas08 (talk) 21:51, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

@Ceas08: Sure: check out m:Help:Import and m:Help:Export. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 21:56, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice but i don't have permission for this. Is there another way? Ceas08 (talk) 22:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

When you do the import, make sure you set the destination root page to the wiki's prefix (Incubator is weird in that it requires this). Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:36, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Yesno module

Hi! I hope you will be able to help. If I want to use the yesno module in some module (so |foo=yes and |foo=YeS and |foo=true works), what I need to change if the current sintax in module is something like if foo == "yes"? --Edgars2007 ^{(talk/contribs)} 12:35, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Edgars2007. :) First you need to require the module:

local yesno = require('Module:Yesno')

Then, to accept values like "yes", "YeS", and "true" - but nothing else - then use this code:

if yesno(foo) then
	-- Do some stuff
end

If, in addition to "yes", "YeS", etc., you also want to except arbitrary values like "bananas", but you don't want to accept "no", "false", etc., then use this code:

if yesno(foo, true) then
	-- Do some stuff
end

And that's it. Hope this helps! Also, for next time, these kinds of questions are probably better asked at Wikipedia talk:Lua. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:13, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I will ask the next questions there, but as this one is related, I will ask one more question here. What about all the suppressplaceholder thing in the InfoboxImage (it would be too complicated for me now) - how to use yesno module there? --Edgars2007 ^{(talk/contribs)} 10:19, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

@Edgars2007: Use this:

if yesno(frame.args["suppressplaceholder"]) ~= false then
	-- Do some stuff
end

Also, be aware that if InfoboxImage is called like {{#invoke:InfoboxImage|InfoboxImage|suppressplaceholder=}} then frame.args["suppressplaceholder"] will be "", not nil. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 11:08, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! --Edgars2007 ^{(talk/contribs)} 13:11, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

YGM

YGM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easel14 (talk • contribs) 03:02, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

@Easel14: Sure, feel free to suggest edits to the Stephen MacMahon. The best place to do so is at the talk page, Talk:Stephen MacMahon; when you make a suggestion you should also use the {{request edit}} template so that a third-party editor will be aware that you made an edit request. (Otherwise, others may not notice it, as it is not a busy talk page.) If you can help to remove the remaining close paraphrasing issues, that would be very helpful. :)

I'm not exactly sure what filtered your edit when you tried to post your full message here - did you make a note of the filter number or of what text matched the filter? If you like, you can try to make the edit again to find out what went wrong. If you are able to give me some more clues, I might be able to get that fixed.

I hope this message has been helpful, but please do let me know if you have any more questions. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:39, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

My talk page

An IP continues to restore the posts on my talk page that I have removed as per WP:TPO and continues to accuse me of edit warring. Also, the IP wants to request original research on a discussion at WT:AIRPORTS (http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Airports&diff=617141168&oldid=617140600) asking other editors to poll NY cabbies. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 05:23, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll be away from my admin account for a little while. Probably best to ask a WP:ANI. — Mr. Stradivarius on tour ^{♪ talk ♪} 05:38, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

It looks like the edit warring has died down, so I don't think any blocks or page protections are necessary just now. I've left a comment over at the WP:NORN thread. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 07:55, 16 July 2014 (UTC)