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Welcome!

Hello, Covalent, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Roadway air dispersion modeling, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Air pollution

Nice work on air pollution related issues :-). Wikipedia still needs a lot of work in this regard. Please consider improving emission standards, which is in need of more attention. Jens Nielsen 09:49, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on Noise mitigation

A few tips on linking:

Wikipedia headers are generally kept devoid of links. It shouldn't be difficult to rework these sections in order to move the link within the first line.
"See also" links are specifically articles that were not previously linked in the article.

Hoping to see more great articles from you. Circeus 16:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not refer to my edits as vandalism. I find it offensive. All my edits are made in good faith. If you have a problem with them, please discuss on article talk or my talk. Thanks!--Light current 21:55, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK!

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article San Francisco garter snake, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for a great article! ++Lar: t/c 21:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment about Red bellied Lemur

has been replied to on my talk page, as is my wont, I like to keep conversations together. Please comment further there if necessary, and I will reply there. I won't notify you here again. ++Lar: t/c 14:17, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shifting cultivation is incorrectly identified as bush fallowing

Note you edited that Shifting cultivation is incorrectly identified as bush fallowing or Slash and burn. Could you clarify your point, please? Specifically:

Is shifting cultivation broader than slash and burn so use of slash and burn is a subset of the larger shifting cultivation discussion?
Or is something fundamentally wrong with the term slash and burn. If so, what?

Thanks - Williamborg 03:59, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

as to your first question, first of all i am open to a better statement of that key sentence. i was merely doing my best to correct a bad sentence that existed. shifting cultivation, i believe, is a broader term than slash and burn. i think we need several different authors to piece this whole thing together, because i believe shifting cultivation properly embraces many centuries of somewhat differing practices (including conversion of temperate forest land into sustainable grazing land and in some cases proper crop rotation), whereas slash and burn generally refers to the tropics and subtropics in present day subsistent farming. in short i think slash and burn is a small subset (in time and location) of slash and burn.

your second question seems easier. there is nothing at all wrong with the term "slash and burn". it is descriptive, specific and the very people that practice it use the term unabashedly. best regards Covalent 04:36, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your comments make sense. I think slash and burn is also an accepted term for some practices in northern climes (Russia, Finland, Sweden & part of Norway use (the term Svedjebruk (no:Svedjebruk))). Now we need just someone to restructure these articles; unfortunately not an area I’m knowledgeable enough to take a shot at… Williamborg 04:52, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

shifting cultivation

i didnt create this article, but am trying to improve it in small ways. i wikified intro. will get back to other parts later in the summer. by the way with your knowledge, i hope you will assist with ethanol fuel, an important article that needs some help. best regards Covalent 12:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that ethanol fuel is an important topic. Thanks for pointing me to it! I'd be happy to see if I can help. Waitak 14:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to say that I think you're doing a good job of keeping a level head with the discussion of merging Slash and burn and Shifting cultivation. Illigitimi non carborundum and all that... :-) (not that anybody involved is an illigitim... um.. whatever the singular of illigitimi is...) Waitak 05:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(smile)Covalent 05:47, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disagreeing without being disagreeable

I failed at that. I still disagree with you, but I need to apologise for being disagreeable while disagreeing. Guettarda 16:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i failed too. ill try to make a fresh start and perhaps together we can improve this subject matter under discussion at slash and burn and shifting cultivation Covalent 18:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. And I agree, any cat person has got to be a good person ;) Guettarda 16:36, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Diatom

Hi there. Thanks for adding that bit about the use of diatoms in sedimentary records - that was a bit of an omission. I'm not quite sure your text is entirely correct however. It may depend on the analysis technique, but I thought that the inorganic (silicic acid) component of deposited diatoms was the more useful part (which isn't to say that the organic part's not useful). It's not something I'm au fait with (I'm more interested in their surface ecology), so please correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers, --Plumbago 08:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i have amended the text to take into account your correct assertion that the inorganic material is the important part for biota records, cheers Covalent 12:30, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On June 2, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Black-necked Stilt, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Cactus.man ✍ 11:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And another DYK

On June 4, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bay mud, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Rockage, another good one... ++Lar: t/c 22:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On June 7, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cui-ui, which you converted to complete article status. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Cui-ui ref

I fail to see anything not working with the references. If you happen to refer to the fact the first ref of the intro has the number "2" insteadof "1", that is because there is another reference before it in the source: in the taxobox template, for the IUCN status. Circeus 23:37, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On June 15, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Blue Wildebeest, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Cactus.man ✍ 11:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image attributions in articles

Howdy! Per your comment on my talk page, the relevant policy is located at Wikipedia:Image use policy (Rule of thumb N^o 2 and 3). It's generally believed that it is sufficient to fulfil the conditions of use (in this case attribution) on a page clearly and directly linked from the inclusion of the image. The main motivation for this policy was probably the use of GFDL images. If the license was followed to the letter, every article using an image would have to include the full text of the license with it. This is the primary reason that images on the Main Page link to the image description pages rather than the relevant article (which many, many people have requested on Talk:Main Page in the past. If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page. Happy editing! GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 22:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bay Mud

Bay Mud is called Boston Blue Clay and London Blue Clay in those areas. My understanding is that the properties are basically the same as SF Bay Mud, but there may be different approaches to dealing with it in those cities. Argyriou 00:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

do you have a citation for these terms? Covalent 02:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CZCS

I could try digging up some of the info you suggest adding, at some point, but just so you know it's not really my field. My connection to CZCS was really only with the data archiving folks. Thanks for the feedback, nonetheless. --Davepape 05:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On July 5, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Charles Neaves, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--BRIAN0918 04:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

dyk

On 24 August, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fowlsheugh, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Blnguyen | rant-line 00:21, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Black-winged Stilt

You appear to have had a major input to this stilt article, so I wondered if you could clarify. My book gives the southern breeding limit of Black-necked Stilt as southern Chile, S Argentina and the West Indies. Is there a split I don't know about, or is the range just wrong? If the latter, the "where to see bit becomes very parochial". I'll put this on the talk page for the article too. jimfbleak 06:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

sorry, my stupidity, I meant Black-necked. I've sorted it out now as far as I can, but it looks unbalanced still. jimfbleak 14:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On 28 August, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Haraldskaer Woman, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Highly interesting read. Almost forgot about updating DYK while reading this :P Thanks! --Srikeit ^{(Talk | Email)} 19:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haraldskaer Woman

Since Wikitravel is not a Wikimedia project, I've answered you question over at Wikitravel on your user talk page. Cheers! -- Cjensen 05:45, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On 22 September, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Boston Transportation Planning Review, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Featured list candidate

I thought you'd like to know that List of United States federal legislation has been nominated to be a Featured List. It needs 4 votes by October 2 2006.

As I have labored hard on the article, I would appreciate your looking it over. You can find a discussion here: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of United States federal legislation.

Thank you!

—Markles 23:09, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have supported this list becoming a featured list Covalent 17:39, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On October 19, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tamworth Pig, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 01:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any reason why there is a Tamworth pig and Tamworth Pigs page?--Moonlight Mile 11:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No reason for separate articles. I will merge pigs into pig Covalent 15:46, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Wildabeest et al.

Thanks for your reply. I didn't want to go and screw up a properly named page. --tjstrf Now on editor review! 21:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mandø (Island)

Greetings Covalent

It is great that you've begun writing about a one of my country's relatively unknown islands, thumbs up for that. The ecology is interesting, and many Danes probably can't even locate it on a map. Unfortunately, Mandø already has an article (see: Mandø), and I believe that the shorter name is better than Mandø Island since the Danish ending "-ø" in itself means "island". Using the short form would also make this article correspond more closely to other similar material. Could I possibly persuade you to integrate the two articles? Btw, the island's name can traditionally be spelled with or without the "D". I haven't got a dictionary at handbut the Danish Wikipedia sticks very closely to the standard dictonary and it uses the spelling "Mandø" and so does the Great Danish Encyclopedia. The Danish Wikipedia has a few additional images you might find interesing, see: da:Mandø. I might be able to find a little history about the island if you are interested. Regards and happy editing. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 19:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your interest in the new article Mandø Island. Yes i think the two articles should be integrated and i shall be glad to carry that out. ( I hadnt noticed the other article til you mentioned it to me. I would welcome some history information you might have. I am working on an ecology section and uploading some images of Mandø Island. Regarding the name, i prefer Mandø Island, mainly because i think it is a more descriptive title for the English Wikipedia. by the way i am planning a series of articles on Denmark's history and geography. Covalent 21:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Such a series sounds very interesting. May I ask which topics you plan to include? I just read the article again and I've removed the entry about the "bus" to Rømø further south. Fanø to the north is linked to Esbjerg on the mainland by a ferry and Mandø uses the so-called Mandøbus. However the more populous Rømø to the south is linked to the mainland by a causeway with an asphalt road. Since use of this road is free of charge and the waters between Rømø and Manø are rather deep, I strongly doubt the existance of a second "bus". Furthermore, the three islands are very often referred to in connection with the three different means of transport. I've tried searching a bit on the Danish part of the web and I can't find any reference to a "colleague" to the Mandø bus. The only colleague people mention is Sandormen in Skagen connecting Skagen with the nothermost point in Jutland where the North Sea / Skagerrak meets the Baltic Sea and Kattegat. I visited Rømø and the West Coast some years ago, and I remember the guide books mentioning the uniqueness of the Mandø Bus. However the public bus service Sydbus operates a bus line over the causeway[1], so I think this must be the reason for this misunderstanding. The bus service to Rømø is hardly used at all.

The naming of the article might seem a trivial point, but the double "island" reference keeps nagging me. I checked Category:Islands of Denmark and no other entries use "Island" as part of the article name. The only three oddly named entries are Fur, Anholt and Mors which is quite understandible since these names all have multiple meanings. The same standard seems to be followed for the material on Sweden, Norway, Germany and the Netherlands. The articles about Danish towns are very similarly named so you would do me a great favour by letting this article follow the same convention as well. Google is very far from perfect, but it gives a very low number of entries for "Mandø Island" but considerably more for plain "Mandø". In Danish "Ø" simply means "island" so both for this reason and due to the practice used elsewhere, you would make my day by letting this article be named consistently with the other material. It would also decrease the risk of getting a new duplicate article.

While digging for more information about the island, I found a little information on the meaning of the name. It seems that the origin of is word is somewhat uncertain but it is known from the 13th century. Nudansk Ordbog (The New Danish Dictionary, Politiken, 1992) interprets the name as derived from ancient Danish: Mann which would normally mean a "man". In this particular context the name is interpreted as having a rather rare meaning referring to a burial site for shipwrecked people. Some of the waters of the West Coast are tricky to this day so it seems quite possible that ships were lost here. A few islands in Sweden have names derived from a similar meaning. Btw, have you considered this article for DYK? Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 23:34, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i am willing to change the name to your choice, but only if we can preserve the edit history of the longer article, which is substantive and helps me (and others) track the succession of stages. i will try to do this. yes it would make a good DYK now that it has images and ecology section. as far as other topics, i am writing on a number of historical manors, churches etc. Covalent 23:53, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An administrator should be able to fix the issue with the article history. Btw, since you're thinking in terms of DYK, I have no problem if you want this process to be completed first. I'll try to dig up a bit of historical background tomorrow. Regards. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 00:15, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i have now completed the merge and the new article sits at Mandø Island. i am now trying to move the article and its edit history to Mandø, but i am having technical difficulty doing so and the warning notice says an admin must assist with this move. i have no idea how to get admin attention. if you are able to facilitate i would be grateful. the warning says "do not cut and paste to move", which i respect since edit history would be lost.Covalent 00:19, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We are trying to move the article Mandø Island to Mandø along with the edit history. need admin help to make the move, since destination page was an article originally before the merge. this move is uncontested. i shall take care of double redirects after admin move the article. thank you. Covalent 00:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will make the request at WP:RM. Peter O. (Talk) 00:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the {helpme}... I have merged the page histories. Next time you can use ask at Wikipedia:Requested moves, specifically for this action Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. By the way, nice work on the article :-) --Commander Keane 00:37, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have completed the move, thanks for your understanding. I've fixed the redirects. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 09:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did You Know?

On 6 November, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mandø, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 18:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations with the DYK! May there be many more. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 22:53, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On November 13, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Northern Red-legged Frog, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thankyou for your many contributions. You're keeping the natural sciences well covered on DYK.Blnguyen (bananabucket) 23:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Red-bellied Lemur

No problem. Happy to oblige. In fact, you could have simply asked me or any other admin personally to do it, instead of posting the history in the open. Let me know if there's anything else I can assist you with. Cheers! - UtherSRG (talk) 01:22, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your interest

Answered on bees and toxic chemicals talk page.--Filll 00:26, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Swidden

heh, sorry for opening a can of worms. I agree that there is far too much effort expended on the names of article on wikipedia rather than the content, with name debates often going on for far too long. Mea culpa. Pfly 05:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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As you are a significant contributor to this article I wanted to make certain that you were of its GA Sweeps review, which can be found here. The article has been placed on hold pending some attention to citations. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 18:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Potentilla hickmanii

Hello

In 2006 you made an article about Potentilla hickmanii I'm very interested in finding a source to the claims in the conservation section that connect the Environmental Impact Assessment process to the discovery and endangered species listing of the plant. The external links provided only list the endangered species aspect, but not any direct connection to an EIA. Do you have any source for this information? The article has been changed dramatically since it was first created, but I am very interesting in any information you can provide.

Fast reply would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You!

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