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== School/Elite proxy == |
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== Admin contact and school website address? == |
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This IP is also shown as being an elite proxy by [https://www.us-proxy.org/], as well as some other IPs that appear to be educational. Should the template be changed to also say that it could be used by non-affiliated people?--[[Special:Contributions/69.223.191.153|69.223.191.153]] ([[User talk:69.223.191.153|talk]]) 00:21, 26 October 2015 (UTC) |
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I think the template should be changed to include an admin contact for the school and the school website. I've done that on [[user talk:70.88.111.65]], my school IP. This will make it easier to contact the school in cases of abuse. ~[[user:crazytales|''Crazytales'']] [[user talk:crazytales|'''!!!''']] 12:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC) |
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== Template-protected edit request on 2 December 2015 == |
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:You can link the school directly from the name. Try <nowiki>{{SharedIPEDU|[http://www.powerscatholic.org/ Powers Catholic High School] (Flint, MI)|host=backup.powerscatholic.org}}</nowiki> --[[User:Geniac|Geniac]] 18:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC) |
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::Thanks. But what about modifying the template to include an administration contact? ~[[user:crazytales|''Crazytales'']] [[user talk:crazytales|'''!!!''']] 12:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC) |
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I think these links to school websites should be done. I'm not sure the best way, though. [[User:Selket]] says he/she needs us a list compiled of school websites (and contacts), in order for the bot to add the links. Alternatively, we could manually add them when we give subsequent warnings. --[[User:Aude|Aude]] <small>([[User talk:Aude|talk]])</small> 20:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC) |
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:I'll work on that soon. I'll have to figure out how the new page preloader works though. I'm planning to split off contact details into a separate subpage and have it transcluded back onto the talk page. We need to keep contact details separate as a safeguard against tampering which is time consuming to detect if a talk page is very active itself. -- <small><span style="border: 1px solid">[[User:Netsnipe|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:#003333"> Netsnipe </span>''']][[User talk:Netsnipe|<span style="background-color:#003333; color:White"> ► </span>]]</span></small> 16:57, 20 April 2007 (UTC) |
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== Police image == |
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Is there really no place for the image removed in this [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:SharedIPEDU&diff=111409857&oldid=99932675 diff]? I suppose it doesn't really matter but I find the reasoning to be quite dubious. [[User:Yonatanh|Yonatan]] ([[Special:Contributions/Yonatanh|contribs]]/[[User_talk:Yonatanh|talk]]) 03:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC) |
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:I'd have to agree that removing the image because "''Many users live in regions where the police are not "friendly", to say the least''" is a bit odd. If the police image is a problem, how about [[:Image:Nuvola apps important.svg]] ([[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|15px]]) instead? '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 21:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC) |
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::Hi, I just ran across this discussion. My reasoning, which I could not expand on very much in an edit summary, is that many people on this planet live under [[police state]]s, and Wikipedia should not appear to be working in alliance with those state's aims. I personally feel anxiety and distress at the image of a cop's hat, and I have only resided briefly in a police state, and was never a citizen of one. If it is preferred to have an image in that area to call attention to the warning, [[:Image:Nuvola apps important.svg]] would be great. Thanks to auburnpilot for that suggestion. ··[[ user: coelacan |coe<span style=" font-variant: small-caps" >l</span>]][[ user talk:coelacan |acan]] 19:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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I added the [[:Image:Nuvola apps important.svg]] ([[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|15px]]) image. Let's see how that goes. -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] 22:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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==Link== |
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The template has a link to [[Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#Options_for_IP_blocks]] which is not present. It should be changed.--[[User:Scheibenzahl|Scheibenzahl]] 15:16, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:Done. [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|<span style="color:orange">'''juice'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]]</sup> 16:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC) |
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::Similarly, it links to [[Wikipedia:Requests for investigation]] which is [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Requests for investigation|inactive]]. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:Gary Kirk|<font color="#7b68ee">'''Gary Kirk'''</font>]] [[User talk:Gary Kirk|<font color="#7b68ee"><small>[Talk]</small></font>]]</span> 09:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:Done; thanks. -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] 13:53, 15 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== replacement image == |
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{{resolved|Done.}} |
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|'''Note:''' In the event of persistent [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]], anonymous editing from this IP address [[Template:schoolblock|may be disabled]] for '''up to 6 months''' at a time while [[Wikipedia:Abuse reports|abuse reports]] may be forwarded to your school administration for investigation in case of long-term abuse by registered users. |
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Can we replace image with just the important with clockimportant?[[User:Jer10 95|Jer10 95]] <small>[[User talk:Jer10 95|Talk]]</small> 18:48, 24 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:Sure. -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] 16:25, 25 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== Please remove unwarranted limitation to "primary and secondary schools" == |
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The above box now reads: |
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|'''Note:''' In the event of persistent [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] <span style="background:yellow">from [[primary education|primary]] and [[secondary education|secondary]] schools</span>, anonymous editing [[Template:schoolblock|may be disabled]] for '''up to 1 year''' at a time. [[Wikipedia:Abuse reports|Abuse reports]] may also be forwarded to your school administration for investigation in case of long-term abuse by registered users. |
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Apparently, the highlighted text has been [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:SharedIPEDU&diff=next&oldid=133443199 inserted] without discussion, and I see no sense whatsover in limiting ourselves here. We want to protect ourselves from ''any'' vandalism, regardless of what kind of institution it comes from. Can this please be changed back? — [[User:SebastianHelm|Sebastian]] 17:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC) |
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Please take this request seriously. This insertion clearly violated our policies and guidelines: |
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* "[A]dministrators should not make significant changes to these pages without prior discussion" ([[WP:PPOL]]); |
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* "Always fill in the summary field. [...] [M]entioning one change but not another one can be misleading [...]" ([[WP:ES]]). That was the case in the edit summary of the insertion. |
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In this context, I also want to mention that of the last three edits from institutional IPs that I encountered, all three were from universities. This indicates that we are pulling our claws in the fight against a significant source of vandalism, just because one editor made a change that he/she didn't even deem worthwhile of an edit summary. — [[User:SebastianHelm|Sebastian]] 21:01, 22 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:From what I understand, we prefer not to block entire universities for up to one year; rather, we communicate directly with their IT staff, which is why the primary/secondary is there. I could be mistaken, however. -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] 21:23, 22 October 2007 (UTC) |
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Thank you for your explanation, Avi. — [[User:SebastianHelm|Sebastian]] 00:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC) |
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{{tl|sudo}} |
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Collecting all evidence put forward above, we have: |
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;For keeping the inserted wording: There may be some form of other communication. Either nobody knows anything about it or the people who do just don't speak up here. |
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;For removing the inserted wording: It was inserted in violation of one policy and against one guideline. There was no consensus, and not even a single benefit put forward for its insertion. Conversely, it limits our ability to fight vandalism at one of the busiest fronts. |
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Please, therefore, remove the inserted text. — [[User:SebastianHelm|Sebastian]] 00:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:I'm inclined to remove it, as it seems needlessly specific and effectively narrows the potential uses of the template without any obvious benefit (that I can see, anyway). Extraneous chance to link another article or two, maybe? Could easily replace it with "educational institutions" or "this IP address" or anything similar. – <span style="font-family: Garamond">[[User:Luna Santin|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Luna Santin'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]])</span> 23:39, 25 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:: That would be nice; thank you! This is actually undisputed; nobody has spoken up in favor of the inserted text. (I see Avi's comment as an attempt to explain it, not to defend it.) — [[User:SebastianHelm|Sebastian]] 04:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::{{done}} pending any further discussion or requests. – <span style="font-family: Garamond">[[User:Luna Santin|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Luna Santin'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]])</span> 08:12, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::: Cool, thanks! I like the wording "from this IP address". That is of course a limitation, too, since it prevents us from doing such things as whole IP range blocks, or blocking one IP for the wrongdoings of another IP from the same school. But I don't mind that since I don't think anybody ever seriously proposed such a thing. — [[User:SebastianHelm|Sebastian]] 17:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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I hate to rehash an old discussion, but I'm noticing that it was said that it is prefered to contact university IT staff instead of blocking their IPs. I totally agree with this idea, but why should K12 schools be any different considering many districts employ a very tiny pool of proxy IPs (usually about two or three) to represent the entire district of schools, so why shouldn't the K12s and universities be treated in an equal manner? [[User:GO-PCHS-NJROTC|GO-PCHS-NJROTC]] ([[User talk:GO-PCHS-NJROTC|talk]]) 01:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Abuse reports & registered users == |
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Please remove the text "in case of long-term abuse by registered users" from the box at the bottom regarding vandalism. Abuse reports ''cannot'' be filed on registered users (see [[WP:ABUSE]]), so the statement should read "Note: In the event of persistent vandalism from primary and secondary schools, anonymous editing may be disabled for up to 1 year at a time. Abuse reports may also be forwarded to your school administration for investigation." --[[User:Darkwind|Darkwind]] ([[User talk:Darkwind|talk]]) 16:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC) |
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: No, it should not include the words "from primary and secondary schools", as per the previous discussion. — [[User:SebastianHelm|Sebastian]] 00:07, 25 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::{{tick|18}} '''Done''' - I removed "in case of long-term abuse by registered users", but left it otherwise as is since I don't see consensus on what to do with that. [[User:Nihiltres|<font color="#275CA9">Nihiltres</font>]]<sup>'''('''<span class="plainlinks">[[User talk:Nihiltres|<font color="#000">t</font>]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?user=Nihiltres <font color="#000">l</font>]</span>''')'''</sup> 16:48, 25 October 2007 (UTC) |
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== Documentation == |
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I came to make some changes to the documentation to make it clearer that this template should NOT be subst:ed, and remembered this template is protected. So, I created the /doc subpage per [[WP:DOC]]. Please remove everything from the <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> to the bottom of the page and replace it with: |
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The original categories, interwikis, and the {{tl|pp-template}} are on the /doc page which will be transcluded. Thanks. --[[User:Darkwind|Darkwind]] ([[User talk:Darkwind|talk]]) 15:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:{{tick|18}} '''Done'''. Thanks for the detailed request! --[[User:ais523|ais523]] 15:58, 30 October 2007 ([[User:ais523|U]][[User talk:ais523|T]][[Special:Contributions/Ais523|C]]) |
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== Double categorisation == |
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The template makes entries in categories on the same tree.--[[Special:Contributions/141.84.69.20|141.84.69.20]] ([[User talk:141.84.69.20|talk]]) 20:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC) |
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I agree that IPs shouldn't be categorised into [[:Category:Shared IP addresses from educational institutions]] ''and'' [[:Category:Shared IP addresses]] because the latter is a parent of the former. I'm an admin, but I don't know enough about the code to fix it without maybe messing something up. --[[User:Geniac|Geniac]] ([[User talk:Geniac|talk]]) 15:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:There is code on the page such that accounts are categorised into the first category no matter what namespace the template is used in, and the second category only in the User Talk namespace, so my guess is that someone was trying to implement some sort of system I don't understand the details of. I'm therefore not making this edit immediately until it's determined why the page is as it is at the moment, but am happy for someone else who understands what's going on to make it. --[[User:ais523|ais523]] 18:05, 27 February 2008 ([[User:ais523|U]][[User talk:ais523|T]][[Special:Contributions/Ais523|C]]) |
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::Actually, the code in the <code><nowiki>{{#ifeq:</nowiki></code> function is much older than the [[:Category:Shared IP addresses from educational institutions]] code. When that subcategory was created, the category link was added without much forethought, such that it categorises in all instances. I don't think there is anything intentional about the difference. I have changed it to only categorise into [[:Category:Shared IP addresses from educational institutions]], and only on user talk pages, which is what should have happened when the subcategory was added way back in 2006. <font color="forestgreen">[[User:Happy-melon|'''Happy''']]</font>‑<font color="darkorange">[[User talk:Happy-melon|'''melon''']]</font> 12:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC) |
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== Template on user page? == |
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Hello all- Anyone know if we are meant to put the template on the user page for the IP address as well as on the talk page? I didn't see any guidance regarding that in the Documentation section of the template page. -[[User:Eric|Eric]] [[User talk:Eric|<sup>talk</sup>]] 17:26, 25 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:AFAIK, just the talk page. I'll add it to the documentation. --[[User:Geniac|Geniac]] ([[User talk:Geniac|talk]]) 15:12, 27 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::Okay, thanks. -[[User:Eric|Eric]] [[User talk:Eric|<sup>talk</sup>]] 15:44, 27 February 2008 (UTC) |
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== RSS feed == |
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Why was the information about how school administrators can subscribe to an RSS feed removed? [[User:GO-PCHS-NJROTC|GO-PCHS-NJROTC]] ([[User talk:GO-PCHS-NJROTC|talk]]) 00:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC) |
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: I've only just noticed that. It was quite a useful feature... (hint - if you want to access the RSS feed, view the history of a page and add "&feed=rss" to the end of the URL.) ~~ [[User:JGXenite|<span style="color: #AB0F31">[Jam]</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:JGXenite|<span style="color: #000000;">[talk]</span>]]</sup> 22:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Next time someone wants to {{tl|editprotected}} this... == |
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Grammar. (Commas!) "For this reason<sup>COMMA</sup> a message intended for one person may be received by another. Similarly<sup>COMMA</sup> an innocent user may be blocked for another user's vandalism." Cheers! —<font face="Viner Hand ITC" color="2F4F4F"><small>'''Ed [[User:the_ed17/Newcomers|<font color="00008B">1''7'']] [[User:the_ed17|<font color="2F4F4F">for President]] <sub>''[[User talk:the_ed17#VOTE FOR ED|<font color="2F4F4F">Vote for Ed]]''</small></sub></font></font face>''' 17:38, 15 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:Fixed. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 18:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== "1 year or longer" == |
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Previous wordings of that template included |
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* anonymous editing may be disabled for '''up to 1 year''' at a time |
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* <small>(starting last month)</small> anonymous editing may be disabled for '''1 year or longer''' at a time |
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Since we don't apparently all agree on whether or not we can block for longer than a year (and what's "longer" than a year?), I think it might be a good idea to drop the "1 year" milestone altogether. What do you think? -- [[User:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#002BB8;">lucasbfr</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#001F7F;">talk</span>]]</sup> 09:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC) |
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:I am a rather profligate user of this template. I changed the template last month as many 1-year blocks on school IPs were expiring (new school year) and I noticed that a number of fellow admins were re-blocking these IPs who were immediately returning to vandalism (and in many cases had multiple 1 year blocks) with 18 month or 2 year blocks. I also have issued a number of 18 month or 2 year blocks, after 1 year blocks expired. It seemed disingenuous to say an IP may be blocked for up to a year, when in practice they may be blocked for longer. If folks feel that it should be changed back, I would not object. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 14:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC) |
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::As I explained [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?&oldid=249712273#Re:_Template:SharedIPEDU here] I would reinsert ''up to 1 year''. However I would not object reinserting ''1 year or longer'' as well. In any case one of both alternatives should be reinstered. —[[user:aitias|αἰτίας]] ''•''[[User talk:Aitias|''discussion'']]''•'' 22:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC) |
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:::The original wording was '''up to 6 months''' because the admin who added it often blocked k-12 schools for 6 months at a time. Since many schools still vandalised after a 6 month block, the wording was changed to '''up to 1 year'''. There will undoubtedly be many IPs (particularly k-12 schools) that'll continue vandalising after a one year block, so the next thing you know, it may be changed to "up to 2 years". I think it's better to remove the phrase and let the block templates say the duration. [[User:Spellcast|Spellcast]] ([[User talk:Spellcast|talk]]) 20:12, 6 November 2008 (UTC) |
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::::I agree with you, "up to 2 years" sounds kinda silly. If we really want to say something, I suggest "for extended periods of time". -- [[User:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#002BB8;">lucasbfr</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#001F7F;">talk</span>]]</sup> 15:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC) |
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== TfD == |
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This template has been nominated at [[WP:TfD]], so a notice needs to be placed at the top. [[User:GO-PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="red" face="Comic Sans MS">PCHS-NJROTC</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(Messages)</font>]]</sup> 23:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:EP -->. --[[User:Kralizec!|Kralizec!]] ([[User talk:Kralizec!|talk]]) 19:50, 15 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== dnsstuff for the host field? == |
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Is it just me, or does the DNSstuff website that you get by clicking the host link ''never'' work? I always get the message "Access to DNSstuff tool results requires that you own the DNSstuff Professional Tool Set and remain logged in". Seems kind of strange to me. —/[[User:Mendaliv|<b>M</b><small>endaliv</small>]]/<sup><small>[[User talk:Mendaliv|2¢]]</small></sup>/<sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/Mendaliv|Δ's]]</small></sub>/ 18:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== Request for edit to fix AR link == |
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As part of the [[Wikipedia:Abuse_response/2009_Revamp| total revamp]] of the old Abuse Report system we have moved and renamed the project to [[Wikipedia:Abuse response]]. As part of the last stage of the rename the main page was recently moved. While there is a redirect from the old [[Wikipedia:Abuse report]] main page we are trying to change all the links we can. Since this high visibility template links to the abuse response system we were wondering if you could make the following change: |
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Replace: <nowiki> [[Wikipedia:Abuse reports|Abuse reports]] </nowiki> |
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With: <nowiki> [[Wikipedia:Abuse response|Abuse reports]] </nowiki> |
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If for some reason you are hesitant to do this edit please feel free to contact me or any of the other contacts listed on [[Wikipedia:Abuse response]]. [[User:Jamesofur|Jamesofur]] ([[User talk:Jamesofur|talk]]) 07:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 13:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC) |
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==Request to add nl versions== |
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the two equivalents on nl-wiki are: |
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*<nowiki>[[nl:ws-school]]</nowiki> for primary and secondary schools |
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*<nowiki>[[nl:ws-hogeschool]]</nowiki> for higher education colleges and universities |
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Since this is a protected template and I have no admin rights here can an en-wiki colleague add these? |
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Thanx! [[User:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[User talk:MoiraMoira|talk]]) 06:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} (well the first one - the latter is linked from it) no admin rights required to edit the documentation subpage. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] <sup>[[user talk:rd232|talk]]</sup> 18:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC) |
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== Link not working == |
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The "read our advice on this situation" link is not working. It goes to [[Wikipedia:Why_create_an_account%3F#Blocked.3F]], but it should go to [[Wikipedia:Why_create_an_account%3F#Can.27t_create_an_account_because_your_IP_address_is_blocked.3F]]. '''''[[User:Theleftorium|<font color="AE0937">The</font>]][[User talk:Theleftorium|<font color="AD4740">left</font><font color="C6454E">orium</font>]]''''' 21:27, 1 December 2009 (UTC) |
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==Grammatical error== |
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The template reads: |
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:School staff who want to monitor this IP address for vandalism '''can''' subscribe to a web feed of this page in either RSS or Atom format. |
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This should read "'''may''' subscribe..." --[[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 03:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC) |
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::Hello Walter- I think ''can'' is good there, as ''may'' carries a connotation of permission or likelihood. For example: ''Students who have questions can call the professor at home, but may not do so after 10 pm.'' In any case, you can see how to request a template edit by going to the template tab, then the view source tab. [[User:Eric|Eric]] [[User talk:Eric|<sup>talk</sup>]] 14:58, 11 December 2009 (UTC) |
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== registered to v used by == |
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In some cases it is clear which specific educational institution has long-term use of an IP address (eg by editing a specific school page), but the WHOIS doesn't make it clear that it's a school. What about an extra field <tt>|usedby</tt> ("appears to be used by") to accommodate this situation? [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] <sup>[[user talk:rd232|talk]]</sup> 18:52, 15 April 2010 (UTC) |
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== Stylistic updates and changes == |
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Please indicate any feedback on changes that may be viewed at [[Template:Shared IP edu/sandbox]] and in comparison at [[Template:Shared IP edu/testcases]]. The changes are to make wording consistent, increase visability of the symbol, add a descriptive title, minimize instructions to administrators consistent with other templates, and change certain images consistent with their meanings on user warning templates. |
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Please note that the documentation template is commented out on the sandbox page to avoid unintentional category listing. |
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I'd like to proceed with replacing the code in three days unless feedback warrants delay. --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 09:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC) |
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--[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 19:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:Looks like an improvement to me. {{done}} — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 09:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC) |
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== Edit Request because of improper formatting, and down tool == |
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This template currently has a whois tool link for the hostnames, '''not all schools or even organzations do there DNS in such a way'''. |
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:''Side Note:'' Currently the host in the tool is samspade which is down. I would suggest what you use for your IP User footer, the rdns tool doesn't work. |
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<u>'''I suggest for IP users'''</u> |
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*Example of an External IP tool, that does RDNS and GeoLocate |
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**http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ipall/?tool_id=67&token=&toolhandler_redirect=0&ip=71.168.81.235 |
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*Example of an External IP Tool, that does Whois |
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**http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois/?ip=71.168.81.235 |
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But, for the current template I would like it changed to show the ip, and a ip whois tool using the current whois tool we have on the tool server, or the one I mentioned above, otherwise including anything in the template is pointless in my opinion. |
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*ToolServer Tool - Only does NIC Whois |
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**http://toolserver.org/~chm/whois.php?ip=71.168.81.235 |
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Thanks --[[User:Wolfnix|<span style="color:Navy">Wolfnix</span>]] • [[User talk:Wolfnix|<span style="color:Purple">Talk</span>]] • 17:02, 17 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:I concur. It should be the ToolServer utility. So this request is eleventh in the queue, huh? --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 22:18, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::There is [http://toolserver.org/~overlordq/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?lookup=71.168.81.235 Overlord's tool] but a good single external tool seems to be [http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/71.181.58.38 What is my ip (Example 1 w/ geo)] and yes, Protected pages have a long que. |
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::or maybe something similar to {{ipvandal|71.168.81.235}} that uses DNSStuff already --[[User:Wolfnix|<span style="color:Navy">Wolfnix</span>]] • [[User talk:Wolfnix|<span style="color:Purple">Talk</span>]] • 20:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:::CHM's tool is used on the bottom of the IP pages now, but dnsstuff would be fine too. So long as it works. --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 20:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::::Nods, they have been around for years now. --[[User:Wolfnix|<span style="color:Navy">Wolfnix</span>]] • [[User talk:Wolfnix|<span style="color:Purple">Talk</span>]] • 20:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC) |
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[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:EP --> So many ideas have been discussed that I am unclear what exactly is being requested. Please make your required changes to [[Template:Shared IP edu/sandbox]] and reactivate the request. Thanks — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:Everything is set up at the [[Template:Shared_IP_edu/sandbox#Wolfnix.27s_Proposed_Edits|Sandbox]], thank you. --[[User:Wolfnix|<span style="color:Navy">Wolfnix</span>]] • [[User talk:Wolfnix|<span style="color:Purple">Talk</span>]] • 16:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::{{done}}, hopefully as you intended. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 16:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== Edit protected == |
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<nowiki>If a block is needed, [[Wikipedia:Administrators|administrators]]should consider a [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy#Setting block options|soft block]] with the template <tt>{{[[Template:schoolblock|schoolblock]]|''optional comment''}}</tt> as the block reason.</nowiki> |
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Needs to be changed to: |
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<nowiki>If a block is needed, [[Wikipedia:Administrators|administrators]] should consider a [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy#Setting block options|soft block]] with the template <tt>{{[[Template:schoolblock|schoolblock]]|''optional comment''}}</tt> as the block reason.</nowiki> |
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(space after "administrators") |
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Thanks. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">'''[[User:NSD|<font color="green">Nerdy</font>]][[User:NSD/t|<font color="#0F0">Science</font>]][[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|<font color="#8d7">Dude</font>]]'''</span> 13:35, 24 September 2010 (UTC) |
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: {{done}}, gracias. [[user:thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work)]] - [[user talk:thumperward|talk]] 17:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== Typo == |
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Can someone please fix the typo "This IP Address,(IP Address appears here), ..." to "This IP Address, (IP Address appears here), ..." (The lack of a space between the first comma and the IP address). Thanks in advance, [[w:User:Ks0stm|<font color="009900" ><b>Ks0stm</b></font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Ks0stm|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Ks0stm|C]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Guestbook|G]])</sup> 20:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC) |
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: Also {{done}}. [[user:thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work)]] - [[user talk:thumperward|talk]] 21:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== Formatting == |
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Is the template supposed to look like [[User talk:65.18.107.52|this]]? I believe the bold and non-bold formats are reversed. (Or am I using it incorrectly? This is how I've always used it.) -- [[User:Gyrofrog|Gyrofrog ]] [[User_talk:Gyrofrog|(talk)]] 16:26, 29 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:I've adjusted some missing markup;[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Shared_IP_edu&diff=387750715&oldid=386824620] hopefully the right things are bolded now. Thanks. -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 16:39, 29 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:: Looks OK to me, thank you! -- [[User:Gyrofrog|Gyrofrog ]] [[User_talk:Gyrofrog|(talk)]] 20:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== Cleanup == |
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I've been working on a cleaned-up update to this template in the sandbox: [[Template:Shared IP edu/sandbox]]. There are no major changes, just a neater layout to organise bits and pieces that have been added along the way. <span style="font-size:0.9em; font-family:Georgia,serif; font-style:italic;">— [[User:Pretzels|'''Pretzels''']]<sup> [[User talk:Pretzels|Hii!]]</sup></span> 01:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:Any comments/objections...? <span style="font-size:0.9em; font-family:Georgia,serif; font-style:italic;">— [[User:Pretzels|'''Pretzels''']]<sup> [[User talk:Pretzels|Hii!]]</sup></span> 19:38, 13 October 2010 (UTC) |
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::In Internet Explorer 8's [[Internet Explorer 8#Compatibility mode|compatibility mode]], the graphic shows overlapping the text (instead of inside the left margin). However it looks fine in IE 8 native mode, as well as Firefox 3.6 and Opera 10.6. — [[User:Kralizec!|Kralizec!]] ([[User talk:Kralizec!|talk]]) 21:15, 13 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:::I can't replicate that: my version of IE8 calls it "compatibility view" but I assume that's the same thing? <span style="font-size:0.9em; font-family:Georgia,serif; font-style:italic;">— [[User:Pretzels|'''Pretzels''']]<sup> [[User talk:Pretzels|Hii!]]</sup></span> 22:30, 13 October 2010 (UTC) |
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::Can you use a vector graphic (SVG) like the current template? -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] ([[User talk:Avraham|talk]]) 23:18, 13 October 2010 (UTC) |
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== Updates to appearance == |
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Please replace with [[Template:Shared IP edu/Sandbox]]. These changes follow changes made to SharedIP and SharedIPGOV, and ensure uniform appearance and message among the shared IP templates. To summarize, these global changes adopt tmbox, and make the message clearer and more concise. Thanks. --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 16:57, 26 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:Hi Pretzels. Regarding the image, I want to make sure the symbol used has design consistency among the shared IP templates, as the current one does, and that it's a vector graphic. --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 20:21, 26 October 2010 (UTC) |
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::OK. The current image doesn't function as a useful icon by adding understanding to the message, as it's unclear the building is an educational institution and "IP" in a circle doesn't mean anything. <span style="font-size:0.9em; font-family:Georgia,serif; font-style:italic;">— [[User:Pretzels|'''Pretzels''']]<sup> [[User talk:Pretzels|Hii!]]</sup></span> 20:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Yes, I don't disagree. (Although I do think the red schoolhouse is a stereotypical, recognized representation of a school.) But new images should be proposed as a group to replace the ones at [[Template:SharedIP]] and [[Template:Shared IP gov]] too. Just replacing one ruins the consistency of the templates. And the icons really should be vector graphics. --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 20:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC) |
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::::No other comments forthcoming, so {{done}} — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:01, 28 October 2010 (UTC) |
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== Whitespace fix == |
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Change: |
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<code><nowiki>('''<tt>[{{fullurl:tools:~overlordq/cgi-bin/whois.cgi|lookup={{urlencode:{{{{{subst|}}}PAGENAME}}}}}} {{{{{subst|}}}PAGENAME}}]</tt> ''')</nowiki></code> |
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to: |
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<code><nowiki>('''<tt>[{{fullurl:tools:~overlordq/cgi-bin/whois.cgi|lookup={{urlencode:{{{{{subst|}}}PAGENAME}}}}}} {{{{{subst|}}}PAGENAME}}]</tt>''')</nowiki></code> |
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This will fix the extra space that comes between the IP address and close parenthesis (e.g., on [[User talk:75.149.203.217]]). —/[[User:Mendaliv|<b>M</b><small>endaliv</small>]]/<sup><small>[[User talk:Mendaliv|2¢]]</small></sup>/<sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/Mendaliv|Δ's]]</small></sub>/ 11:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}, thanks. -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 12:03, 4 November 2010 (UTC) |
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==Please add== |
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Interwiki <nowiki>[[sk:Template:Zdieľaná IP školy]]</nowiki>. Thank you [[User:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[User talk:MoiraMoira|talk]]) 10:58, 18 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}. --[[User:Nlu|Nlu]] ([[User talk:Nlu|talk]]) 14:05, 18 December 2010 (UTC) |
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== Editprotected request involving this template == |
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This message is to inform people monitoring this talk page that there is an "editprotected" request involving this and several other templates at [[Template talk:!#Edit request from Cymru.lass, 28 December 2010|Template talk:!]] [[User:Cymru.lass|cymru.lass]] <sup>[[User talk:Cymru.lass|(hit me up)]]</sup>⁄<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Cymru.lass|(background check)]]</sub> 20:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC) |
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== blocked notice == |
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We could add a parameter to add {{tmbox |
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| type = notice |
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| image = [[File:Stop x nuvola.svg|25px]] |
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| style = border: 1px solid #A00; background: white; margin: auto auto 0.5em auto |
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| textstyle = text-align: center |
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| text = In response to [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] from this IP address, anonymous editing may be blocked, and [[WP:Abuse response|abuse reports]] may be sent to your educational institution's administration for investigation.}} instead of it being there always. We could make it (blocked=yes). We will also change it to: {{tmbox |
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| image = [[File:Stop x nuvola.svg|25px]] |
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| style = border: 1px solid #A00; background: white; margin: auto auto 0.5em auto |
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| text = In response to [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] from this IP address, anonymous editing is [[WP:Block|blocked]], and [[WP:Abuse response|abuse reports]] may be sent to your educational institution's administration for investigation.}} It would be simpler than adding another template, and why put "may be blocked"? Also, another change is hyperlink for "blocked".~~[[User:ebe123|<span style="color:#21421E;font-weight:bold">EBE123</span>]]~~ <sup>[[User talk:Ebe123|<span style="color:#0000FF">talk</span>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ebe123|Contribs]]</sub> 19:32, 28 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:This template is not subst'd, so the parameter would need to be reset at expiry - not very practical. It also serves as a warning for when a school user (or administrator) looks at the talk page to see warnings prior to (or without) a block. -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 19:42, 28 April 2011 (UTC) |
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==Additional wording== |
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{{edit protected|answered=yes}} |
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I would like to suggest the addition to this template of some wording that is already on {{tl|Whois}}: ''If you are an unregistered user operating from this address, note that it is possible for the owner of the IP to determine who was making contributions from this address at a given time.'' I have found that when I add <nowiki>{{whois}}</nowiki> to an IP talk page, they are MUCH less likely to repeat vandalism than if I don't add this. I'm convinced that this statement informing users that someone can identify who is editing has a positive effect on preventing repeat vandalism. If the same effect could be realized in relation to schoolchildren's edits, I think it could be a considerable benefit to Wikipedia. [[User:Deli nk|Deli nk]] ([[User talk:Deli nk|talk]]) 21:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:Please make your proposed changes to [[Template:Shared IP edu/sandbox]] and then wait for comments from other editors. To avoid ''banner bloat'' please consider removing something so that the banner stays the same size/length. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 16:13, 14 September 2011 (UTC) |
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::I have added my suggested wording to [[Template:Shared IP edu/sandbox]]. In order to avoid banner bloat, I have also removed the phrase, "Review contributions carefully if blocking this IP or reverting its contributions" which really does not convey any useful instruction to administrators beyond what should already be standard practice for them anyway. [[User:Deli nk|Deli nk]] ([[User talk:Deli nk|talk]]) 16:41, 14 September 2011 (UTC) |
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{{edit protected|ans=yes}} |
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Since there hasn't been any objection, I would like to request that the suggested changes described above ([[Template:Shared IP edu/sandbox]]) be incorporated into the template. [[User:Deli nk|Deli nk]] ([[User talk:Deli nk|talk]]) 19:10, 13 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:Sorry, I meant to come back and follow up on this! Deployed now. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 21:43, 13 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thank you. [[User:Deli nk|Deli nk]] ([[User talk:Deli nk|talk]]) 22:43, 13 October 2011 (UTC) |
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== Edit request from , 24 November 2011 == |
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The code that replaces the ''IP address'' parameter with the actual IP address uses a dead tool from labs (https://tools.wmflabs.org/splinetools/whois/ip/). Could someone replace the code so that it directs to a whois that works? Perhaps whatismyipaddress.com which is what the Geolocate button at the bottom of IP talk and contribution pages links to? |
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Please update the interwiki's here: |
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[[ca:Plantilla:IP escolar]] |
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[[cs:Šablona:Sdílená IP škola]] |
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[[fr:Modèle:IP scolaire]] |
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[[ja:Template:SharedIPEDU]] |
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[[nl:Sjabloon:Ws-school]] |
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[[ru:Template:SharedIPEDU]] |
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[[simple:Template:schoolip]] |
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[[sk:Template:Zdieľaná IP školy]] |
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[[sv:Template:Skoldator]] |
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[[User:Stabila711|Stabila711]] ([[User talk:Stabila711|talk]]) 22:17, 2 December 2015 (UTC) |
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:I updated the template to remove the deadlink, but will need to get better consensus here as to exactly what to change this to, and ensure it is well tested. Note, the footer of all ip talk pages ALREADY has WHOIS and ALL the RIR links. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#00FF00;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:40, 4 December 2015 (UTC) |
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: Interwikis for most templates with the blue "documentation" box are stored on the documentation page, which is normally not protected. You should be able to update the interwiki links for this template at the bottom of [[Template:Shared IP edu/doc]]. [[User:Anomie|Anomie]][[User talk:Anomie|⚔]] 13:41, 24 November 2011 (UTC) |
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::The relevant piece of code could be copied from {{tl|whois}} I think. [[User:Bazj|Bazj]] ([[User talk:Bazj|talk]]) 08:32, 5 December 2015 (UTC) |
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:::Feel free to mock it up in [[Template:Shared IP edu/sandbox]] (I synced that sandbox before the last edits), after sandboxing go through the testcases - if they all work feel free to open a new edit request to have it synced to the main template. If you just wanted to suggest someone else work on it, they can do the same. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#00FF00;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 14:39, 5 December 2015 (UTC) |
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== Template-protected edit request on 28 January 2016 == |
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== IP addy =\= person == |
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The template currently states "it is possible for your institution's administration to determine who was making contributions from this [IP] address" which is blatantly false. I think we've learned this much from the RIAA vs. Does lawsuits. I suggest we change the wording to "may be possible" to accurately reflect reality. [[User:Palosirkka|Palosirkka]] ([[User talk:Palosirkka|talk]]) 10:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC) |
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:Support change. -- [[User:Mscuthbert|Michael Scott Cuthbert]] <small>[[User_talk:Mscuthbert|(talk)]]</small> 15:14, 2 July 2012 (UTC) |
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::[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template%3AShared_IP_edu&diff=500424256&oldid=496632471 Done]. Perhaps there are similar wordings used in other templates at [[:Category:Shared IP header templates]] if you wish to look - otherwise I will add it to my list. [[User:Rjd0060|Rjd0060]] ([[User talk:Rjd0060|talk]]) 02:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks guys! I cursorily glanced the category and looks like at least [[Template:Shared IP gov|this page]] could use similar rewording. [[User:Palosirkka|Palosirkka]] ([[User talk:Palosirkka|talk]]) 17:19, 3 July 2012 (UTC) |
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If this template is used without the name parameter, then the template text reads: |
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== Not accurate for IPv6 addresses == |
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"Your IP address, xxx.xxx.xx.x , and may be shared by multiple users, so you might receive messages on this page that were not intended for you." |
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[[IPv6]] addresses are almost never shared, but we still need to mark educational IPv6 addresses as that. Should we change the current template or make another one?--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 20:20, 11 January 2013 (UTC) |
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:My vote would go for change the current one. It keeps things simple that way. People already know where to look for this one. [[User:Zellfaze|Zell Faze]] ([[User talk:Zellfaze|talk]]) 22:14, 29 March 2013 (UTC) |
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::If it's not shared, it's not in the spirit of this template to tag them this way; that's what {{tl|whois}} is for. If one were to actually READ the template, it's a reminder to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] (which is something we're supposed to do), but it's more or less become a "keep reblocking me long term indefinitely even if they reassign me to something that isn't a school or even if someone with a brain in their head wants to edit from a school" template, almost like a virtual "kick me" sign. [[User:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="red" face="Comic Sans MS">PCHS-NJROTC</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(Messages)</font>]]</sup> 05:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Can the " , and" after the IP address be included only if the first parameter is specified? |
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== Odd behavior == |
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Thanks in advance! <span style="text-shadow:black 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; font-family: georgia">[[User:Rystheguy|<span style="color:#00e500">Ry's the Guy</span>]]</span> <sup>([[User talk:Rystheguy|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Rystheguy|contribs]])</sup> 16:14, 28 January 2016 (UTC) |
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The line "This IP address, [ip], is registered to" displays as "This IP address, , is registered to". Also everything with a pre tag (in the doc and the above sections [[#Documentation|Documentation]] and [[#Whitespace fix|Whitespace fix]]) shows a blank space. -<span style="text-shadow:#FFD700 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em">[[User:Auric|<font color="#FC3700">'''Auric'''</font>]] [[User talk:Auric|<font color="#0C0F00">''talk''</font>]]</span> 21:17, 7 March 2013 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ETp --> [[User:SiBr4|<span title="User:SiBr₄">SiBr<sub>4</sub></span>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|<span title="User talk:SiBr₄">talk</span>]]) 16:26, 28 January 2016 (UTC) |
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== Abuse reports == |
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== Differences with {{tl|SharedIPCERT}} == |
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Why does this template say that "abuse reports" will be sent to network administrators? To me, that sounds like Wikipedia will notify the school, but someone assured me that it wouldn't happen. Is that just saying that vandalism will be reported to [[WP:AIV]]? I think the template should be made more clear. [[User:Kailey 2001|Kailey 2001]] ([[User talk:Kailey 2001|talk]]) 23:55, 28 March 2016 (UTC) |
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What is the difference between the template {{tl|SharedIPCERT}} and {{tl|Shared IP edu}}. Thanks<span style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···[[User:Vanischenu|'''V<span style="color:green;">ani</span>s<span style="color:green;">che</span>nu''']][[Special:Contributions/Vanischenu|<sup>「m</sup>]]/[[User_talk:Vanischenu|<sub>Talk」</sub>]]</span> 11:44, 8 March 2013 (UTC) |
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== Schoolhouse == |
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== Update to make more like Template:Shared IP == |
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There have been a few times that editors have expressed a dislike for the "juvenile" schoolhouse image. I wonder if something derived from [[:File:L'Etude-Boizot-BMA.jpg]] might be a more mature choice. Thoughts? [[User:LeadSongDog|LeadSongDog]] <small>[[User talk:LeadSongDog#top|<span style="color:red; font-family:Papyrus;">come howl!</span>]]</small> 19:04, 3 May 2016 (UTC) |
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{{tl|Shared IP}} has been updated to make the template friendlier, perhaps we should do the same with {{tl|Shared IP edu}}, {{tl|Mobile IP}}, and {{tl|Shared IP gov}}? [[User:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="red" face="Comic Sans MS">PCHS-NJROTC</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(Messages)</font>]]</sup> 05:00, 18 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:I think you've gone a little too far in the other direction. Perhaps a [[mortarboard]] would be better? [[Special:Contributions/146.96.41.154|146.96.41.154]] ([[User talk:146.96.41.154|talk]]) 20:21, 16 October 2017 (UTC) |
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::[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan#/media/File:WikiNeko-Tan.jpg How about this version of Wikipe-tan?] It's an accurate depiction of roughly half of the people who vandalize from these IPs; on one hand, it might make them more inclined to be a productive part of Wikipedia when they see an image they can relate to, while on the other hand, it tells them "yeah, we know you popular girls vandalize and its not just computer nerds." [[User:PCHS-NJROTC|<span style="color:red; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">PCHS-NJROTC</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:PCHS-NJROTC|<span style="color:black; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">(Messages)Have a blessed day.</span>]]</sup> 18:31, 18 October 2017 (UTC) |
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== Bold differentiation text for Shared IP X == |
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{{editrequest|answered=yes}} |
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{{tl|ISP}} and {{tl|Shared IP}} have long since been updated so that they are "friendlier," and I just updated {{tl|Shared IP gov}} and {{tl|Mobile IP}} as well. Below is what I propose for this school template (the only reason I didn't get rid of the white box is because the white box may contain the abuse contact for the school) [[User:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="red" face="Comic Sans MS">PCHS-NJROTC</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(Messages)</font>]]</sup> 23:35, 19 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:I've moved your proposal to the proper place, [[Template:Shared IP edu/sandbox]], both so that it can be tested (see [[WP:TESTCASES]]) and also to save disrupting this talk page. Please check it to make sure I didn't leave anything out. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 23:47, 19 August 2013 (UTC) |
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::Thanks. I don't think you left anything out. [[User:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="red" face="Comic Sans MS">PCHS-NJROTC</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(Messages)</font>]]</sup> 00:10, 20 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:::[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:EP -->. Sorry for the wait. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]</sup> 09:31, 25 August 2013 (UTC) |
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::::Thanks. [[User:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="red" face="Comic Sans MS">PCHS-NJROTC</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(Messages)</font>]]</sup> 03:50, 26 August 2013 (UTC) |
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{{edit template-protected|answered=yes}} |
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== Edit request == |
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Please revert this edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Shared_IP_edu&curid=4478857&diff=868179485&oldid=804092452] in accordance with [[WP:BRD]]. All of the Shared IP X templates bold the part of the template that differentiates them, thus on this template it is the part that says educational institution. Another possibility would be to add a title line instead of the bold text, but something should be retained to do this, and it should be made consistent with the other templates. Let's discuss what's best. [[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 15:20, 10 November 2018 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ETp --> [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 16:03, 10 November 2018 (UTC) |
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== Template-protected edit request on 20 February 2019 == |
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{{editprotected|ans=y}} |
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Please remove the following: |
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{{edit template-protected|Template:Shared IP edu|answered=y}} |
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<code><nowiki> In response to vandalism from this IP address, [[Wikipedia:Abuse response|abuse reports]] may be sent to its network administrator for investigation.</nowiki></code> |
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Wording improvement suggestion: |
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Current: "Educational institution staff and network administrators{{!xt|, to monitor this IP address for vandalism,}} can subscribe..." |
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The Abuse Response project has been marked as historical. —/[[User:Mendaliv|'''M'''<small>endaliv</small>]]/<sup><small>[[User talk:Mendaliv|2¢]]</small></sup>/<sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/Mendaliv|Δ's]]</small></sub>/ 16:00, 11 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:I think that should be left, but just unlinked. [[User:Jackmcbarn|Jackmcbarn]] ([[User talk:Jackmcbarn|talk]]) 02:17, 12 November 2013 (UTC) |
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::{{done}} — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 09:13, 12 November 2013 (UTC) |
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{{edit template-protected|ans=y}} |
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The tmbox below also has an [[WP:Abuse response|abuse reports]] link, can someone remove it please? |
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Suggested: "Educational institution staff and network administrators{{xt| wishing to monitor this IP address for vandalism}} can subscribe..." [[User:Eric|Eric]] <sup>[[User talk:Eric|talk]]</sup> 21:11, 20 February 2019 (UTC) |
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<code><nowiki> ... your institution's administration to determine who was making contributions from this address at any given time and [[WP:Abuse response|abuse reports]] may be sent to them for investigation.</nowiki></code> |
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:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ETp --> [[User:Cabayi|Cabayi]] ([[User talk:Cabayi|talk]]) 21:31, 20 February 2019 (UTC) |
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== Template-protected edit request on 9 April 2019 == |
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Thanks, [[User:Martin of Sheffield|Martin of Sheffield]] ([[User talk:Martin of Sheffield|talk]]) 14:59, 16 October 2014 (UTC) |
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:<small>Added Requested Edit box for attention.—<span style="text-decoration: overline">[[User:Lucas Thoms|Lucas]]</span><u>[[User talk:Lucas Thoms|Thoms]]</u> 02:24, 17 October 2014 (UTC)</small> |
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::Removed that part. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 08:22, 22 October 2014 (UTC) |
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{{edit template-protected|Template:Shared IP edu|answered=yes}} |
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== September 2014 - edit request == |
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Please change |
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{{edit template-protected|answered=yes}} |
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The link(s) to the whois of the IP go to toolserver, which is (obviously) dead. '''[[Template:Shared IP edu/sandbox|The sandbox]]''' has a fixed version, which mainly involves changing the paragraph starting with <code><nowiki>Your <span class="sharedIP"></nowiki></code>...—<span style="text-decoration: overline">[[User:Lucas Thoms|Lucas]]</span><u>[[User talk:Lucas Thoms|Thoms]]</u> 00:44, 16 September 2014 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} <s>The links go to http://www.dnstools.com/, which is a server of [[WP:Wikimedia Labs|WMF Labs]]. Not sure about the sandbox, which has different links.</s> – '''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>''''' <sup><font size="1" color="blue">[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|'''''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''''']]</font></sup> 01:54, 17 September 2014 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|Paine Ellsworth}} If you look at [[User talk:131.111.8.97]], the link of the IP itself goes to a dead toolserver page. —<span style="text-decoration: overline">[[User:Lucas Thoms|Lucas]]</span><u>[[User talk:Lucas Thoms|Thoms]]</u> 01:56, 17 September 2014 (UTC) |
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:::You got me! {{p}} Okay, that should fix it – if you still see the toolserver link, then be sure to purge the page by adding {{code|?action{{=}}purge}} to the URL. – '''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>''''' <sup><font size="1" color="blue">[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|'''''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''''']]</font></sup> 02:56, 17 September 2014 (UTC) |
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::::Already tried it out, and the links look great! Thanks! —<span style="text-decoration: overline">[[User:Lucas Thoms|Lucas]]</span><u>[[User talk:Lucas Thoms|Thoms]]</u> 02:57, 17 September 2014 (UTC) |
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:::::Pleasure! – '''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine</span>]]</small>''''' |
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<code><nowiki>[[Special:Userlogin|Create an account!]]</nowiki></code> |
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== Template-protected edit request on 17 October 2014 == |
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# Please change <code><div id="lastRevInfo" class="floatright"</code> to <code><div id="SharedIPEDU" class="lastRevInfo floatright"</code> to prevent id conflicts when multiple warning boxes are used on one page. |
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# Please replace all instances of {{Tag|tt}} with {{Tag|code}} to bring this template up to HTML5 standards. |
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— <span class="nowrap">{{U|[[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]]}} <sup>([[Special:EmailUser/Technical 13|e]] • [[User talk:Technical 13|t]] • [[Special:Contribs/Technical 13|c]])</sup></span> 03:22, 17 October 2014 (UTC) |
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:'''DIV''' Change made, tt->code change not made yet (I'm getting pulled away IRL and wanted to ensure it didnt have any issues--will attempt later, or anyone else patrolling can do this!) — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#00FF00;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:57, 17 October 2014 (UTC) |
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::{{done}} — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#00FF00;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:41, 19 October 2014 (UTC) |
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<code><nowiki>[[Special:CreateAccount|Create an account!]]</nowiki></code> |
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== Template-protected edit request on 13 December 2014 == |
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to avoid a misleading link. The text "Create an account" should lead to the page for creating an account. |
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{{edit template-protected|Template:Shared IP edu|answered=yes}} |
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I do not know exactly what changes were made recently, but whatever they were the template is now broken. See [[User_talk:207.151.35.5]] and [[User_talk:74.92.45.17]]. Thanks. |
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[[User:Tony Tan 98|<b style="color:#28589C">Tony Tan</b><sup style="color:#4775FF">98</sup>]] '''·''' [[User talk:Tony Tan 98#top|<span style="color:#177245">talk</span>]] 21:36, 13 December 2014 (UTC) |
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:I think the edits that broke it were made by {{ping|Mlpearc}}, but I cannot be certain. [[User:Tony Tan 98|<b style="color:#28589C">Tony Tan</b><sup style="color:#4775FF">98</sup>]] '''·''' [[User talk:Tony Tan 98#top|<span style="color:#177245">talk</span>]] 21:39, 13 December 2014 (UTC) |
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::{{done}} by {{u|Rjd0060}} --[[User:Tony Tan 98|<b style="color:#28589C">Tony Tan</b><sup style="color:#4775FF">98</sup>]] '''·''' [[User talk:Tony Tan 98#top|<span style="color:#177245">talk</span>]] 21:54, 13 December 2014 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Pictogram voting comment.svg|20px|link=]] '''Note:'''<!-- Template:ETp --> It was apparently a caching server error because adding the exact same changes to the sandbox displays it was working properly... So, please restore the edits (or copy and paste directly from the sandbox in case there was a hidden character causing the issue that was removed when I copy and pasted from the diff. Thank you. — <span class="nowrap">{{U|[[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]]}} <sup>([[Special:EmailUser/Technical 13|e]] • [[User talk:Technical 13|t]] • [[Special:Contribs/Technical 13|c]])</sup></span> 22:00, 13 December 2014 (UTC) |
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:* Oh, I misspoke, I thought it was an exact copy, but I was wrong. Forgot I changed the {{Param|subst|}} to <code>subst:<no<noinclude />include /></code>. The diff is {{ComparePages|637875670|637961155}} — <span class="nowrap">{{U|[[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]]}} <sup>([[Special:EmailUser/Technical 13|e]] • [[User talk:Technical 13|t]] • [[Special:Contribs/Technical 13|c]])</sup></span> 22:04, 13 December 2014 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ETp --> — <span class="nowrap">{{U|[[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]]}} <sup>([[Special:EmailUser/Technical 13|e]] • [[User talk:Technical 13|t]] • [[Special:Contribs/Technical 13|c]])</sup></span> 15:58, 16 December 2014 (UTC) |
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Thanks, --[[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 01:53, 9 April 2019 (UTC) |
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: {{done}} [[User:Jc86035|Jc86035]] ([[User talk:Jc86035|talk]]) 08:52, 9 April 2019 (UTC) |
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== Template-protected edit request on 21 November 2019 == |
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Hi all, |
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{{edit template-protected|Template:Shared IP edu|answered=yes}} |
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I tried to add this template to a talk page using Twinkle, but it won't display correctly. The page is here: [[User talk:166.91.10.194]]. If anyone could fix it/tell me why/how I broke it I'd be grateful. |
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<code><nowiki>[[File:School_ip.svg|75px|Educational institution IP address]]</nowiki></code> → <code><nowiki>[[File:School_ip.svg|75px|link=|Educational institution IP address]]</nowiki></code>. The image is in the public domain. ~~ [[User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA|<samp><b>CAPTAIN MEDUSA</b></samp>]]<small>[[User talk:CAPTAIN MEDUSA|<mark><sup>'''''talk'''''</sup></mark>]]</small> 18:47, 21 November 2019 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|CAPTAIN MEDUSA}} [[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ETp -->. --[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</span>]]) 20:59, 22 November 2019 (UTC) |
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{{-}} |
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Thanks [[User:GoddersUK|GoddersUK]] ([[User talk:GoddersUK|talk]]) 16:07, 16 December 2014 (UTC) |
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== Template-protected edit request on 14 April 2020 == |
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Actually I removed the broken template for the time being. To see it look at this diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:166.91.10.194&oldid=638366908 |
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Thanks [[User:GoddersUK|GoddersUK]] ([[User talk:GoddersUK|talk]]) 16:10, 16 December 2014 (UTC) |
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When a abuse email is added to the template, it says (let's asume the school is Example School): {{tq2|In the event of vandalism from this IP address, Example School response team has requested that Wikipedia administrators consider a short duration soft block,}} After "Example School", " 's " has to be added as it doesn't make sense without it. — Yours, [[ User:Berrely |<span style="color:black;">'''''Berrely'''''</span>]] • [[User talk:Berrely|<sup>Talk</sup>]]∕[[Special:Contributions/Berrely|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 15:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC) |
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* {{U|GoddersUK}}, how is it broken? Looks fine to me. Can you provide a screenshot please? Thanks. — <span class="nowrap">{{U|[[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]]}} <sup>([[Special:EmailUser/Technical 13|e]] • [[User talk:Technical 13|t]] • [[Special:Contribs/Technical 13|c]])</sup></span> 17:11, 16 December 2014 (UTC) |
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:{{to|Berrely}} {{done|done}} differently. [[User talk:131.111.8.97|See example]] that shows I've inserted the definite article "the". Thank you for raising this issue''!'' '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I. Ellsworth</span>]]''''' [[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]] [[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'r there</sup>]] <small>16:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC)</small> |
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* {{Fixed}} There was an include only section tied to a specific parameter that was not on any of my test pages that was not properly closed. — <span class="nowrap">{{U|[[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]]}} <sup>([[Special:EmailUser/Technical 13|e]] • [[User talk:Technical 13|t]] • [[Special:Contribs/Technical 13|c]])</sup></span> 17:27, 16 December 2014 (UTC) |
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::{{u|Paine Ellsworth}}, thanks! — Yours, [[ User:Berrely |<span style="color:black;">'''''Berrely'''''</span>]] • [[User talk:Berrely|<sup>Talk</sup>]]∕[[Special:Contributions/Berrely|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 18:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC) |
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:::''Pleasure!'' '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:100%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">Paine</span>]]''''' |
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Thanks! :) I was just about to say that it had started working for me again, including on the old diffs. [[User:GoddersUK|GoddersUK]] ([[User talk:GoddersUK|talk]]) 17:33, 16 December 2014 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 18:57, 27 February 2023
 | Template:Shared IP edu is permanently protected from editing because it is a heavily used or highly visible template. Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed here on this page. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by consensus, editors may use {{edit template-protected}} to notify an administrator or template editor to make the requested edit. Usually, any contributor may edit the template's documentation to add usage notes or categories.
Any contributor may edit the template's sandbox. Functionality of the template can be checked using test cases. |
| This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Shared IP edu template. |
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School/Elite proxy
[edit]This IP is also shown as being an elite proxy by [1], as well as some other IPs that appear to be educational. Should the template be changed to also say that it could be used by non-affiliated people?--69.223.191.153 (talk) 00:21, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 2 December 2015
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The code that replaces the IP address parameter with the actual IP address uses a dead tool from labs (https://tools.wmflabs.org/splinetools/whois/ip/). Could someone replace the code so that it directs to a whois that works? Perhaps whatismyipaddress.com which is what the Geolocate button at the bottom of IP talk and contribution pages links to? Stabila711 (talk) 22:17, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- I updated the template to remove the deadlink, but will need to get better consensus here as to exactly what to change this to, and ensure it is well tested. Note, the footer of all ip talk pages ALREADY has WHOIS and ALL the RIR links. — xaosflux Talk 23:40, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
- The relevant piece of code could be copied from {{whois}} I think. Bazj (talk) 08:32, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- Feel free to mock it up in Template:Shared IP edu/sandbox (I synced that sandbox before the last edits), after sandboxing go through the testcases - if they all work feel free to open a new edit request to have it synced to the main template. If you just wanted to suggest someone else work on it, they can do the same. — xaosflux Talk 14:39, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- The relevant piece of code could be copied from {{whois}} I think. Bazj (talk) 08:32, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 28 January 2016
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If this template is used without the name parameter, then the template text reads:
"Your IP address, xxx.xxx.xx.x , and may be shared by multiple users, so you might receive messages on this page that were not intended for you."
Can the " , and" after the IP address be included only if the first parameter is specified?
Thanks in advance! Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 16:14, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Abuse reports
[edit]Why does this template say that "abuse reports" will be sent to network administrators? To me, that sounds like Wikipedia will notify the school, but someone assured me that it wouldn't happen. Is that just saying that vandalism will be reported to WP:AIV? I think the template should be made more clear. Kailey 2001 (talk) 23:55, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
Schoolhouse
[edit]There have been a few times that editors have expressed a dislike for the "juvenile" schoolhouse image. I wonder if something derived from File:L'Etude-Boizot-BMA.jpg might be a more mature choice. Thoughts? LeadSongDog come howl! 19:04, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- I think you've gone a little too far in the other direction. Perhaps a mortarboard would be better? 146.96.41.154 (talk) 20:21, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- How about this version of Wikipe-tan? It's an accurate depiction of roughly half of the people who vandalize from these IPs; on one hand, it might make them more inclined to be a productive part of Wikipedia when they see an image they can relate to, while on the other hand, it tells them "yeah, we know you popular girls vandalize and its not just computer nerds." PCHS-NJROTC (Messages)Have a blessed day. 18:31, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Bold differentiation text for Shared IP X
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Please revert this edit [2] in accordance with WP:BRD. All of the Shared IP X templates bold the part of the template that differentiates them, thus on this template it is the part that says educational institution. Another possibility would be to add a title line instead of the bold text, but something should be retained to do this, and it should be made consistent with the other templates. Let's discuss what's best. Bsherr (talk) 15:20, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 20 February 2019
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Wording improvement suggestion:
Current: "Educational institution staff and network administrators, to monitor this IP address for vandalism, can subscribe..."
Suggested: "Educational institution staff and network administrators wishing to monitor this IP address for vandalism can subscribe..." Eric talk 21:11, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 9 April 2019
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Please change
[[Special:Userlogin|Create an account!]]
to
[[Special:CreateAccount|Create an account!]]
to avoid a misleading link. The text "Create an account" should lead to the page for creating an account.
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 01:53, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Done Jc86035 (talk) 08:52, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 21 November 2019
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[[File:School_ip.svg|75px|Educational institution IP address]] → [[File:School_ip.svg|75px|link=|Educational institution IP address]]. The image is in the public domain. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 18:47, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- @CAPTAIN MEDUSA:
Done. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:59, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 14 April 2020
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When a abuse email is added to the template, it says (let's asume the school is Example School):
In the event of vandalism from this IP address, Example School response team has requested that Wikipedia administrators consider a short duration soft block,
After "Example School", " 's " has to be added as it doesn't make sense without it. — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 15:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- To editor Berrely: done differently. See example that shows I've inserted the definite article "the". Thank you for raising this issue! P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 16:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Paine Ellsworth, thanks! — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 18:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Pleasure! Paine
- Paine Ellsworth, thanks! — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 18:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC)